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Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent - Season 3 Episode 7 -
Whole Lotta Love
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00:00The worst offenders are pursued by the detectives of the Specialized Criminal Investigations Unit.
00:06These are their stories.
00:35Come on, I may stay for one more song.
00:37No, Amy.
00:38Seriously, I have to go.
00:39I have class in Route 9.
00:41You're literally acing every course.
00:42You can take a morning off.
00:45You got something wrong?
00:47Is it Rob?
00:48No, I'm fine.
00:50Go sing.
00:51I'll see you at home.
00:52Go.
00:53Go.
00:54Okay.
00:55Can I close my tab?
00:56Sure.
00:59No whole lot of love tonight?
01:02What?
01:05Ellie.
01:09Here.
01:12Rob, stop calling.
01:13I'm not at tempo.
01:16Ivy, if you're still feeling this way, maybe you should take a break.
01:20Go see your parents.
01:22So you think I should just run away from my problem?
01:26I think you need to manage your stress.
01:28Wait, you don't think this is real, do you?
01:32Look, I'm not living in some fantasy world, Dr. Nielsen.
01:34I didn't say that, Ivy.
01:37Come.
01:38Sit.
01:39Please.
01:45I think you should consider doing what's best for you in this situation.
01:50I know what's best for me.
01:53And I'm not going anywhere.
01:56Everyone's looking at this all wrong.
01:59I've done the tests.
02:00These wounds were made by something easily accessible.
02:03Um, a steak knife.
02:05A paring knife.
02:06So you think the killer was in the house with her, followed her up?
02:10Why?
02:11Is that what you think?
02:12Come on.
02:13Please, Ivy.
02:15Help me out.
02:16Why would someone stab this woman seven times?
02:19Passion makes people do irrational things, Morris.
02:24And you'd know that if you didn't spend all your time playing with knives.
02:31Okay, so what is it then?
02:33I want to possess you, be you, so I'm going to kill you?
02:39Hello?
02:40Uh, yes.
02:41Yes, thank you.
02:43Uh, yeah, I can be there.
02:50Is that your, uh, mystery lead?
02:58You're sure that's what you heard?
03:02Yes, I am certain.
03:05Who else have you told about this?
03:07You're the first.
03:09Yes.
03:23Rob, what the hell are you doing?
03:25I just want to talk.
03:28You've been avoiding me.
03:30We've talked for months.
03:31You don't listen.
03:32We broke up.
03:33Okay, but what if I didn't want to?
03:39Hey, it's me.
03:41Great work.
03:42I just think that maybe our last chapter needs a bit more muscle.
03:46I mean, I know you're all about the subtlety, and that's awesome, but I think that if we're
03:49going to make waves, we need to hit it harder.
03:52That's my thought.
03:52Anyway, I'll see you soon.
04:09Amy, are you home when you're...
04:14Amy?
04:27Amy, are you home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when
04:31you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home
04:31when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're
04:32home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when
04:35you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home
04:35when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're
04:36home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when
04:36you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home when you're home
04:40when you're home when you're home
04:54Amy, I'm on my way to campus to find you.
04:56Call me as soon as-
05:14Hello? Campus services? What's your emergency?
05:19Hello?
06:07Campus security got- got a call from the-
06:10This phone is 22, but there was nobody on the line.
06:14They sent somebody at 11.30 thinking it was a prank.
06:20No such luck.
06:22Ivy Abbott, 20 years old.
06:24Dean says she's a third year criminology major.
06:27She's got a 4.0 GPA.
06:29Smart kid.
06:32You didn't talk to the parents yet?
06:33Yeah, they're both academics. They're in Edinburgh for a year.
06:36They're flying back today. Ivy was her only kid.
06:38So, Ivy Abbott to an emergency phone in the middle of the night.
06:44Well, her cell phone died.
06:46Uh, here.
06:49See if it'll charge.
06:52Great, thanks.
06:56I wonder if someone was following her.
06:59Well, these indentations between her fingers.
07:02Could be she tried to arm herself.
07:05Maybe with her keys for protection.
07:06Okay, so she runs to the phone to call for help, but the killer stabs her in the neck and
07:14drags her and flips her over.
07:17Keep stabbing.
07:20The wound to her neck would have been fatal.
07:23The six stabs on her back, that was anger.
07:25This was personal.
07:27You found the weapon?
07:28No, nothing yet.
07:31Anything on her person that could account for this?
07:34Looks like rope burn.
07:35No, we just found her wallet, keys, and her phone.
07:39Oh, it's charged.
07:40Thanks.
07:44Hey.
07:46What do you mean you're too scared to stay home? Call me.
07:58Ivy said she was coming back to her apartment.
08:00I was studying on campus till midnight.
08:04Was on Do Not Disturb when I got Ivy's voicemail.
08:09I texted her and she didn't respond.
08:11I ran home and I found this. I tried to blow them all up, but there are so many
08:18Amy is there anyone we can call can I text my mom of course?
08:34Amy
08:35Amy, has anything like this happened before? The first time there were just a couple of candles, then a few
08:41more
08:46Amy must have been so scared
08:50Do you have any idea who might have done this?
08:53Yeah, I figured it was Rob, Ivy's ex
08:56It started a couple months ago when they broke up
08:59Did Ivy ever inform the police?
09:02She tried. The cop at the station said that it's not a crime to leave something outside of someone's house
09:09No, sweetheart, I'm so sorry
09:11Do you think this was some grim gesture to try to get Ivy back?
09:18We tried every other way. Constant calling, texting, guys unhinged
09:25Wait, you think I did something to Ivy?
09:27No, no, I would never hurt her
09:29Well, what do you know about this, huh?
09:32It's got quite the distinctive scent
09:35Cedar, cannabis, Canadian wildflowers
09:38And a hundred of these were left on Ivy's patio last night
09:42It's crazy
09:43Where were you last night, Rob?
09:46I was at the Madison
09:47Got there at like 10pm with a few buddies
09:49Stayed until, I don't know, 1.30
09:51Came back here with Kaylee
09:53She just left
09:54Kaylee?
09:56I've been trying to see new people
09:57Get over Ivy
09:59Best six months of my life were with her
10:01So why did you break up?
10:02I don't know, I
10:05She just pulled away, she broke up with me
10:07She wouldn't tell me why
10:07She shut down her social media
10:11Started to go into therapy
10:12Which I thought was weird, I mean
10:14She never wanted to talk about her feelings before
10:17Who's your therapist?
10:18Someone on campus
10:22Sarah something
10:27Ivy and I met four times in the last few months
10:33She was a good student
10:35Good kid
10:37And she needed someone to talk to
10:40Yes, she was stressed
10:42Anxious
10:43Did this anxiety have anything to do with
10:47Unwanted attention?
10:49All students seek out guidance regarding harassment
10:51Detective and unfortunately Ivy was no different
10:55Look, I wouldn't normally do this but
10:58Um
11:01Yeah
11:02You can
11:03Have my notes
11:04They might help
11:07Thank you
11:07Ivy was convinced
11:09That someone was following her
11:10She said that they left things
11:11Outside of her apartment
11:13And lurked near her place
11:14To be honest, I couldn't tell whether this was real
11:16Or whether it was some delusion
11:20Brought on by some underlying issue
11:21It says here a possible BPD
11:23I'm assuming that's borderline personality disorder
11:27Distorted sense of self
11:29Intense emotions
11:29Relationship instability
11:31Yes
11:31It's all motivated by a fear of abandonment
11:34But I wasn't sure
11:35Because I also exhibited traits of
11:36Paranoid personality disorder
11:38Illusions
11:39Distrust
11:42And you never made an official diagnosis?
11:44No
11:45No one
11:48Considering what happened to her
11:49I suppose I
11:50I got that all wrong
11:54Regardless
11:54It would take me more than four sessions
11:56To you know
11:56Some folks go after this stuff with a hammer
12:00I paint in watercolor
12:02You know
12:03It takes time
12:04Patience
12:06I wanted to help Ivy
12:07I really did
12:08But I couldn't report the harassment for her
12:11Did Ivy ever describe this person?
12:15The only thing that I remember her saying
12:17Is that he wore an army jacket
12:32It's so sad, isn't it?
12:34Did you know her?
12:36She was my girlfriend
12:37Oh my god
12:39I'm so sorry
12:42Apparently she tried to report it
12:44But her description of the guy was vague
12:45And do you know what they say about
12:47S-
12:47S-
12:48Stalking
12:49I saw it in slow motion
12:51Finished Ivy Abbott's autopsy
12:53The killer twisted the knife inside her
12:55Her neck almost 180 degrees
12:58You sliced her carotid and her jugular?
13:00Yeah, she blood
13:01Blood out quickly
13:02I looked into those abrasions on her left hand
13:05There's thin fibers
13:06And
13:08Embedded
13:08As
13:09Testing
13:09Possibly clutching onto an object as a weapon when the keys failed?
13:13Maybe
13:15I once tried off a subway perv using a debit card
13:19Yeah, I pretended chapstick was pepper spray
13:21It actually worked
13:22Her killer wasn't a stranger
13:24He had a personal connection with her
13:28Yeah, he either hated her or desired her
13:30Maybe he even felt a whole lot of love
13:34What's the name of the candle? Forensics just came back
13:36Pinpointed a perp-
13:40Blend of cedar, cannabis, and Canadian wildflowers
13:43Created by a Canadian company, Shy Wolf
13:48And guess who bought 150 candles using their credit card online?
13:53Hope you have a reservation because we're totally booked tonight
13:56Oh
13:57I'm
13:58Sure
13:59Sure
14:00He's in for I don't know
14:01Five minutes and 33 seconds
14:03Just enough time to
14:04Do
14:05Do a
14:06Party
14:06A whole lot of love
14:09Carter
14:09Harold, right?
14:11That's you?
14:12Yeah
14:13Yeah
14:14Yeah
14:14I'll see
14:16I'll see
14:16You've bought a whole lot of these candles
14:20It's very expensive to just
14:22Just leave
14:24Leave the mother in Abbott's backyard
14:36Come on, Carter, that's enough
14:38I didn't kill Ivy, I swear
14:45You sure?
14:47You sure?
14:47Cause you were stalking her
14:51Okay, I left the candles on the night she died
14:53On all those nights
14:54But I just wanted
14:55Wanted to what?
14:56Be your own person?
14:57Be your own old boogeyman?
14:59No, I wanted her to know that I cared about her
15:01The candles, they were a message
15:04They were named after a song we sang together
15:05You telling me a 20 year old sang Led Zeppelin at karaoke?
15:09Not exactly
15:10Um
15:11I was in a room on my own one
15:12One
15:13Night
15:14But then I heard a voice in the hall joining in
15:17I looked out
15:17And saw
15:20Her
15:20And you got hooked
15:24Pulled her address off her ID
15:25Went to her house
15:26Started taking photos
15:27Letting candles
15:29Need her to know how I felt
15:31What about how she felt?
15:33I'm pretty sure
15:34You terrified her
15:36Every single time
15:38See, I'm pretty
15:41So forgive me
15:42But you want us to believe that you trespassed onto her property
15:47Peeked through her windows
15:48And took some pretty intrusive photos of her
15:52But then you didn't
15:54Follow her to a deserted area
15:56Stab her in the neck
15:57And in the
15:59Carter
16:00What did Ivy do
16:01When she saw the candles?
16:06Answer the question
16:10Okay
16:12She obviously didn't like them
16:13Shocker
16:15I left
16:16I went to work the late shift at the bar
16:19Checked the cameras
16:19I was there by 11.15
16:23We will
16:24Honestly, I wish I'd followed her
16:25I could've helped her
16:27Well
16:29Maybe
16:30Maybe it's not to help
16:32You followed her around, right?
16:34Yeah
16:34What was she up to?
16:37She was spending way too much time at that criminology building
16:40She had classes there
16:41No, it's not just class
16:42It's
16:43Something else
16:45Everyday she goes to some weird
16:47Weird locked room that only a few people had a key to
16:51What's inside?
16:53I don't know
16:54But I think it's bad for her
16:57Very bad
17:02Let me know when you're done
17:07Well looks like a bunch of true crime nerds made a nest
17:11Or
17:12Or
17:12This club
17:14They would do a seminar supervised by Professor Garrett Poole
17:20A victim was Kat Berman
17:23Murdered in 2019
17:28At Queen's University
17:30She was stabbed once in the neck
17:32And six times in the back
17:38Exactly like a...
17:44So Ivy Abbott was studying
17:47Kat Berman's murder and ends up getting killed in exactly the same way?
17:52Down to the twist of the knife
17:54Take a look at Ivy's autopsy and Kat's autopsy from six years ago
17:59Their fatal neck wounds were caused by the exact same...
18:04Followed by six stabs to the back
18:06The only difference was the marks on the hand
18:10Ivy had them, Kat did not
18:12You talked to Kingston PD?
18:13Yeah, they gave us access to Kat's file but they haven't had a new lead in forever
18:18So, now we have two dead students, similar ages, same wounds
18:24Yeah, we might be looking at a serial murderer
18:26Or a copycat who knew the wound pattern well
18:30Maybe because they studied at a cold case club
18:38Ivy was an excellent student
18:39Sorry for your loss, provost
18:41The provost told us she was in your cold case club
18:43Yeah, one of only ten kids selected
18:48Yes, it was an invitation-only criminology seminar for 30-year students
18:52And Ivy was, yeah, she was doing incredibly well
18:55They all were
18:56So you thought you're best to...
19:00To solve Kat Berman's murder?
19:02That stumped the Kingston PD
19:07It's more of a teaching exercise
19:09So you take an unsolvable case
19:12And give it to a bunch of smart kids
19:15What's with it?
19:17They each bring their own expertise, their own point of view
19:20It's fascinating
19:21And what was Ivy's angle?
19:25Interpreting witness testimony
19:27Hmm
19:28And what if a student discovers a lead?
19:34Well then I would take it to the cold case unit
19:36But I've been using this one for a couple years now
19:40And so far
19:43I've got no new leads
19:45But Ivy wanted to find one, yeah?
19:47We heard she
19:50Spent quite a lot of time in the seminar room after hours
19:54Yes, they all did
19:55I told them they'd get top marks if they solved it
19:57And they couldn't take the files home
19:59Did those
20:01Files
20:03Files
20:03Cut
20:06Berman's
20:07Autopsy
20:08Yes
20:09Why?
20:10Oh, we were wondering if any of the students were
20:12...
20:15Pathology angle
20:15Caused death, injuries
20:19Yes
20:20That's Morris LeMay
20:22He's an inspiring forensic pathologist
20:25He would
20:27Recreate Kat Berman's wounds using various
20:30Unique methods
20:33Many budding pathologists practice replicating knife wounds
20:37It's not weird
20:41So, does everyone work on Miss Pig
20:44They should
20:45The consistency of pig flesh is very close to human
20:48Well funny, that's why we're here
20:49Morris, where were you the night Ivy died?
20:51I didn't kill Ivy
20:52I was with my parents
20:53Here, all night
20:55You can ask them
20:58What's on your mind?
20:59If only I'd move faster
21:02Better
21:03Could've found out who really did this
21:04And Ivy would still be alive
21:06Do you think
21:07Cat's killer murdered Ivy?
21:09Isn't it obvious?
21:10Ivy probably figured out who did it
21:12You'd call yourself a detective
21:16Professor Poole says that there were no
21:18No new leads
21:19Yeah, well Poole doesn't know everything
21:21Ivy finished reviewing witness testimony
21:23And moved on to something that wasn't even assigned to her
21:26Something that no one was allowed to do
21:28Interviewing
21:31Real
21:32How'd you know?
21:33That's exactly what he would've done
21:36So, what was Ivy's strategy?
21:38Ivy was really into victimology
21:41In particular victim facilitation
21:43You know, the theory of what makes someone a target
21:45But nothing in the witness testimony
21:47But nothing in the witness testimony made it seem like
21:47Cat was a high risk
21:50She went to work and to school
21:52So Ivy wanted to know how the killer came into Cat's orbit
21:56Yeah
21:56Ivy figured the perp was either an unassuming random
21:58A stalker
22:00Or someone
22:02That didn't want anyone else to know about
22:05Did Ivy find any new leads?
22:07She went to meet a witness
22:08The day she died
22:10I saw the address she wrote down before she left
22:18Yes, Ivy Abbott came by here at 6pm
22:21We chatted, she left
22:22I was here till 12
22:24I didn't even know her
22:26But Ivy thought that you might know Cat Berman
22:30Barely
22:31I used to deliver pizzas to Cat
22:33And where was this?
22:34Six years ago I was living in Kingston with my aunt
22:36And on the weekend I delivered pizzas for a place called Max Doe
22:39And Ivy knew you were delivering pizzas to Cat?
22:43She saw a photo of our pizza box in Cat's recycling
22:45Part of the
22:47Case files I guess
22:48And Ivy wanted to know if you ever saw anyone with Cat on the weekends?
22:52Yes, and there was a guy there with her sometimes
22:55Definitely a boyfriend
22:56So Damien
22:58Did you ever see a face, get a name?
23:01No, but I heard his voice
23:02He was annoying
23:03Told the same story over and over
23:06So our pizza box was red, right?
23:08Every time Cat took it inside
23:10He would make a comment on how it was the exact
23:14Same color of his fancy cottage in Newfoundland
23:17So when I told Ivy about it, she got really tense
23:21Said she needed to talk to her professor right away
23:24Hmm, fine
23:28He didn't tell us that
23:34Morris, what are you doing?
23:36Came to grab some of my research
23:37Well you won't need it
23:38Out of respect for Ivy, I'm kidding
23:41I'm giving you this seminar for good
23:43But what about our grades?
23:45Is that all you can think about?
23:48Your grade?
23:50What kind of question is that, man?
23:52What's wrong with you?
23:55Uh...
23:57I'm sorry, you're right
23:59Hang on, hang on
24:00I'm sorry, it's um...
24:04Mark's will be determined based on the work that's already been submitted
24:07You're okay, don't worry
24:11So you've never heard of Damien
24:13Haku
24:14No, I've never mentioned meeting anyone named Damien Haku
24:19And...
24:20I would never condone her reaching out to a stranger about the cold case
24:23Really?
24:25Because Damien told us that Ivy's first priority was to rip back to you about a new suspect
24:32Well, she may have sent an email
24:34Maybe it ended up in my junk box
24:36I don't know, my inbox is a mess
24:38I haven't had time to go through
24:40Sorry, this is the first new clue in years and you haven't had time?
24:44What?
24:45I'm saying I didn't know there was a new clue
24:47Okay...
24:48Well, that's alright, you know what we can fill you in
24:50Uh, so Ivy found out that Kat had a secret boyfriend
24:56We don't know his name
24:57Oh, but we do know that he owns some...
25:01Pretty stunning property
25:03Yeah, a red cottage in Newfoundland
25:05Kinda like this one
25:06I don't know
25:12Were you dating Kat Berman?
25:16Professor...
25:17Professor...
25:19And what did you do when Ivy found out?
25:25We know he took a sabbatical from Osler in 2019
25:28He went to Kingston to write a book on the penitentiary
25:33Same year, Kat was killed
25:34Yeah, Kat worked in a...
25:35A library...
25:37That had...
25:38That had penitentiary archives
25:40They might have met there
25:41We...
25:41Haven't confirmed it
25:43But after...
25:44After Kat...
25:45That was...
25:47Garrett Poole went back home
25:48And eventually started the Polkies Club
25:50It's possible he was simply interested
25:52In the case they lived in the same city
25:55Maybe he read about it in the newspaper
25:56Yeah, except that now we're thinking that he was sleeping with Kat
25:58So he's either obsessed with the woman he loved
26:02Or he...
26:03He's a murdering narcissist
26:06Who's...
26:06Spent the last three years...
26:09Getting his students...
26:11To catch him...
26:12Who the hell are we dealing with?
26:20Yes, I was sleeping with Kat Berman in 2019
26:23Our relationship had nothing to do with her murder
26:28I didn't kill her
26:29I loved her
26:30You used her murder as father
26:34For a university class
26:36I want to solve the case
26:37So did Ivy
26:38And...
26:39From the looks...
26:40Of it...
26:41She got dangerously...
26:42Close to the truth
26:43Uh...
26:44We got a warrant
26:45To...
26:46Communication
26:47And...
26:48You were not lying about your inbox being a mess
26:50But...
26:52We found this...
26:54In your trash
26:55What is this?
26:56This...
26:56I...
26:59Email?
26:59The one that...
27:00You couldn't find
27:01It was sent the night she was killed
27:03But forgive me
27:04I...
27:05I left my glasses on my desk
27:07Perhaps...
27:10You could read it out to us
27:16I know you were dating Kat
27:22This isn't what it looks like
27:25Come on
27:26No?
27:27Because you deleted a very clear message from Ivy
27:32That...
27:33Would give very clear motive for murder
27:35And let's face it
27:36It might be easier just to get rid of her
27:38Than to...
27:39Have to track down and destroy 2,000 copies of a book
27:43With a very damning detail on it
27:46I did not kill Ivy out of some kind of self-preservation
27:51Because I did not kill Kat
27:53Do you understand?
27:54Then...
27:55Why would you lie to us?
27:56Do you have any idea how difficult it is to be a male professor these days?
28:04I did not want the fact...
28:06That I slept with Kat to get out
28:08Okay?
28:08It's not because I killed her
28:11It's because I would be ruined
28:12I'd be cancelled
28:13I would lose everything
28:14Yeah, but Ivy still don't know
28:17So what'd you do?
28:21Go after her?
28:22Yeah, your office is very, very close to where she was killed
28:25Yeah, but I wasn't at my office
28:26Where were you?
28:28I was with a colleague at her office
28:30Who?
28:31Sarah Nielsen
28:31I'm working with her on my new book
28:34I was with her from 9.30 to midnight
28:37Sarah Nielsen is the campus therapist
28:40Did you know that Sarah was treating Ivy?
28:46I mean...
28:53Yes
28:55How?
28:59Because I introduced them
29:02Do you handpick all your students therapists?
29:08Maybe you got your pal to talk to Ivy for the same reason you trashed that email
29:14Because you didn't want the world to know that you and Ivy
29:19Also in a sexual relationship
29:22That would make you two for two
29:23That's two relationships, two students
29:28Both
29:28Ivy never told me that she and Garrett Poole were sleeping together
29:33I'd have to report that
29:34Even though you're friends
29:38Way friendship detectives, so do Morals
29:40And the night Ivy was killed
29:45Well...
29:46We in my office till well after midnight
29:48We were working on his new book
29:50Whatever was happening with Ivy
29:53Garrett's telling the truth about that night
29:56Let's help...
29:59Did forensics come back on those fibers in Ivy's hands?
30:02I was just about to call you
30:03They're from a cord used in retractable keycard fobs
30:09Like the one Poole used to let us into his office
30:11It looked long enough to wrap around Ivy's hand cause rope burn
30:15I knew we shouldn't have let him go
30:17Now the man had an alibi, it was fine
30:19But if you find the cord, I can test it for Ivy's DNA
30:23Thanks Lucy, stand by
30:27Okay you two, we need to be very strategic here because whether or not there's DNA on that cord
30:33Poole's alibi still stands
30:36However in my experience, even the most bullet proof of alibis will weaken when faced with a fear of obstructing
30:43justice
30:43So if we tell ethical
30:47Moral Sarah that we've got something against Poole, she might bend
30:50And if you gild the lily by showing her a little more of the horror she's covering up
30:56She might break
30:58Can you, uh, put us
31:00And
31:02And
31:03Nothing I'd rather do
31:05Go break that alibi
31:13Thank god they released you, you okay?
31:16Yeah I'm fine
31:16I'm fine
31:20Thanks for talking to the cops, you're a lifesaver
31:24Um
31:28Garrett
31:29Yeah
31:30Is there anything that you want to tell me?
31:34About what?
31:35About Ivy
31:38Garrett
31:40I just lied for you
31:41Hey
31:45You know
31:46I didn't
31:49Right?
31:50You know that
31:51Of course you didn't
31:53But
31:54But nothing
31:55Why should we give some myopic cops any window of opportunity to pin this on me?
32:01I left your office, I was out walking around the campus
32:04Just
32:06Just processing all these great ideas that you had for the last chapter, you know?
32:12You're amazing, you know that right?
32:14Oh stop
32:16God I'm so lucky to have you
32:18What do you mean?
32:20I mean
32:21I mean
32:23You're loyal and you're
32:25You're faithful and
32:29You're so smart
32:31It's just pure
32:33There's no silliness
32:34There's no messy feelings getting in the way
32:45Why are you showing me these?
32:47Why are you showing me these?
32:47Because we believe your friend Garrett Poole did that to Ivy Abbott
32:51That's-
32:51That's impossible
32:52I told you that we were together
32:56It's amazing what people will do to protect a friend
33:04What do you have in your pocket?
33:06Come on show me
33:07Come on show me
33:13Okay, so
33:15You're by yourself
33:16It's night time
33:18Someone's following you
33:19Out of all of this
33:20What do you use to defend yourself?
33:25So
33:25Do they have a knife
33:28You have a knife
33:31I mean compared to you
33:33Right now
33:34Ivy was lucky
33:35She had her keys on her
33:36And intertwined them between her fingers
33:39In the hope that she could take a swing and then run
33:41But she didn't
33:42Because someone stabbed her in the side of the neck
33:45She got the chance
33:46Why would Garrett do this?
33:49Well Ivy learned that there was another
33:51Student he was involved with who
33:53Also wound up dead
33:55Cat Berman six years ago
33:57There were more
33:58I knew about Ivy
34:00But you knew that
34:02Poole was sleeping with Ivy
34:04Why are you wasting our time?
34:08Okay
34:10Ivy told me
34:11I was horrified
34:14But I couldn't always trust what she said
34:16I told her it wasn't appropriate
34:19And she told me that she was too scared to break up with him
34:22Now I could never imagine Garrett threatening a woman
34:24Well this looks more than a threat doesn't it?
34:30Garrett wouldn't hurt anyone
34:32Come on Sarah
34:34Predators don't just hide in the shadows
34:36They are in nice homes
34:38In positions of power
34:40And you are enabling her
34:47Why?
34:49I didn't want Garrett to be ruined
34:51What if Garrett was telling the truth?
34:55What if Ivy was lying?
34:57But she wasn't
34:58So don't lie for him
35:03I didn't want Garrett to be ruined
35:05What if Garrett was telling the truth?
35:11What if Ivy was lying?
35:12So don't lie for him
35:15I'm sorry
35:17I'm sorry
35:17I never thought that he could do something like this
35:20So when he asked me to say that we were together until midnight
35:26I said okay
35:30Detectives a word
35:35Spin team just called Poole is on move
35:37He's got a suitcase with him
35:40I'll deal with Sarah
35:41You go
35:48There he is
35:49We need to keep up
35:52Dr. Poole
35:54Garrett Poole
35:55Police! Stop!
36:01What the hell is going on here?
36:02I didn't do anything
36:04We'll see about that
36:06Well you're under arrest for the murder of Ivy Abbott
36:13I was headed to Union Station
36:15I'm trying to go to Hudson Valley to see a friend
36:18I'm not guilty of anything
36:20Well the jury's out on that
36:23But we'll have a clearer picture once forensics comes back with the key fob
36:27You believe it was the last thing that Ivy Abbott grabbed for before she died
36:31You knew it was only a matter of time before Ivy outed you as cat's killer
36:36Well you got rid of her to save yourself
36:38I didn't kill Ivy, I didn't kill cat
36:41I told you I love them, both of them
36:43You preyed on two young students
36:46And
36:49Ended up dead
36:51Is that the results?
36:52The DNA test?
36:53What does it say?
36:56What does it say?
37:02Negative for Ivy's DNA
37:04Negative for Ivy's DNA
37:05Yeah, I told you
37:06I told you I didn't kill anyone
37:08Then why did you ask a colleague to fabricate an alibi for you?
37:13I didn't ask her to do that
37:15It was her idea
37:18So, she just came up with this whole plan all by herself, why?
37:23Sarah is a friend
37:25Okay, she's a close friend
37:27She adores me
37:28She can't do anything for me
37:31So when we found out that Ivy was killed
37:33A student
37:34We both knew
37:36Sarah suggested that we just say that we were together
37:39You know, just to keep the
37:41Things tidy
37:44So one more time
37:46Where were you?
37:49At 11 o'clock
37:50I went out for a walk
37:52And Sarah stayed behind and worked on my edits
38:00Leaving you both alone and unaccounted for at the time of Ivy Abbott's murder
38:06Let's get Sarah's interview up
38:07Yup, I'm on it
38:12What do you have in your pockets?
38:14I'll show you
38:17Okay, so
38:18You're alone
38:20It's night time
38:29The white keycard
38:30It's not the official blue one the rest of the staff have
38:34It's temporary
38:34And she tried to hide it
38:36Which means she got rid of her
38:39Fish and the fob that we were with it
38:41And as Poole said
38:45She
38:48She'd do anything to help him
38:50Sarah Nielsen was inside Ivy's head
38:54Yeah, she knew she could kill Ivy and point the finger at any number of people in Ivy's life
38:59Even pointed you two toward a stalker
39:01And all the while she was covering for Poole which also gave herself an alibi
39:06That's some fancy footwork
39:07But then for some reason she decided to throw Poole under the bus
39:11Why?
39:12Well, cause we offered him up as a patsy
39:14And if Sarah's smart, the only piece of hard evidence that we hope to test is long gone
39:20Finding that fob wouldn't help
39:24I'm Sarah Nielsen-Moyer
39:26First thing I'd say
39:28Everyone at Osler has that fob
39:3030,000 people could be your killer
39:32I like
39:34This game, okay
39:35Well what would you say if I said to you
39:38Your client has no alibi
39:39She was in her office
39:42Working
39:42The therapist's offices don't have cameras
39:44I checked
39:46Thank you counsel, but I have the floor
39:50You don't have my client's prints on the murder weapon because you don't have a murder weapon
39:55No sign of a
39:56You're on CCTV
39:58At least not a recognizable Sarah
40:00Okay, but what is a recognizable Sarah?
40:03The woman is a cipher
40:04I don't think I've seen the real Sarah
40:10This...
40:11This could be the real Sarah
40:12Now this is Poole's one big book, right?
40:15Got him tenure, but
40:17It doesn't read like his earlier papers
40:19Listen to this language
40:20As Anna Freud posited in 1936
40:23Defense mechanisms operate unconsciously to protect the
40:28Ego
40:28Ego
40:30Rejection, sublimation, displacement
40:31Sigmund Freud
40:33Swung at these conditions with a
40:37But Anna Freud believed in time, layers and patience
40:40She unpacked these emotions with care
40:42And painted them with a watercolor brush
40:46That's exactly what Sarah said just when we first met
40:48You...
40:49You think...
40:50That's her research?
40:52She gave it all to Poole
40:54Romantic, isn't it?
40:55It certainly is
40:57And that's how we break her
41:01Thanks for meeting me here, Sarah
41:03How are you feeling?
41:05I'm a little stunned
41:06I can't believe that Garrett said it was my idea to lie about his alibi
41:11Yeah, well, we saw right through that
41:13I'm just glad that you caught him
41:16Yeah
41:17But it's not over yet
41:19We still have to put him behind bars
41:21And there are aspects of both Ivy and Kat's cases that we just still don't understand
41:29So, I'm hoping you can help
41:31Well, I don't know Kat
41:33Oh, that's okay
41:34I mean, Kat's murder was only like Ivy's
41:38And, you know, Ivy, you know Garrett
41:40I mean, you're the expert here
41:41I mean, I'm so curious about your perspective
41:46I've already told you
41:50Everything I know
41:51Fact, yeah
41:53But I'm looking for feelings
41:55And you were practically inside their heads
41:59I mean, you were Ivy's therapist and Garrett's muse
42:03What do you mean, Garrett's muse?
42:07Oh, Sarah, I... I read his book
42:10Those chapters on defense mechanism
42:13Impulsivity, emotional dysregulation
42:16That was all you
42:18No, no, no, no
42:20It wasn't me
42:21We worked, we worked together on your ideas
42:23well I wanted to help him yeah like you helped him with his alibi it's okay I
42:33know it's not your fault I think that Garrett was able to get away with these
42:38murders because he manipulated his victims you included this guy was very
42:44careful no no there's careful and then there's controlling what do you mean
42:49well Ivy mentioned that Garrett asked to track her phone that's why she was so
42:53scared wow he liked to lead in relationships to have the upper hand oh
42:59was he like that with you too in your relationship well Garrett and I are
43:03we're just friends really sir come on I can tell a woman is in love Garrett knew
43:14how you felt and he took advantage of that what are you suggesting that I'm
43:19weak no god no no I'm
43:24I've been
43:27there my huh my rookie year I fell absolutely head over you
43:35was the guy that I worked with I became obsessed I memorized to schedule I
43:43followed him around I would make excuses to work together did he like you back
43:50he liked my work he liked it so much that sometimes but claim it as his own
44:02yeah eventually he did he did want more than just my work so he'd take you back yeah but he
44:12didn't like me
44:12enough to get sick it turns out he was married the entire time oh and I want to
44:27I wanted a family that's terrible at least Garrett isn't married oh no
44:39he is otherwise engaged he spends his time on things but gives you just enough to
44:46hang on kind words empty promises and all the while your time marches on your
44:51window is closing I have always had feelings for Garrett but he he said that we
45:02cross the line
45:05line we're colleagues but he crosses the line with his students but that's none of
45:10my business and and I have I have accepted that we are just friends no
45:14friends don't steal their friends work friends don't you use their friends to
45:19try to cover up their affairs with students and friends don't blame their
45:25friends for their crimes
45:30or maybe they do I think you might be doing exactly that to Garrett what are you
45:40talking about sir how would you define projection it's when someone attributes
45:47their own undesirable feelings thoughts and to somebody else okay so like when you
45:52suggested that ivy was borderline with a touch of parent parent
45:59personality disorder and intense emotions fear of abandonment impulsivity delusion
46:05I am
46:08no original detective and I I actually I've done nothing but try to help
46:17yeah well you've been very helpful when you wanted me to trust you and like you you told me
46:24everything I wanted to hear I've read your notes and I made some of my own and I think all
46:31those
46:31things you were saying about ivy you're really talking about yourself
46:39Sarah stop no no no no no no I'm done here from the moment that I walked into that office
46:44you've been trying to manipulate me and now you are trying to turn the tables with
46:48anger
46:51and it's not gonna work was that your attempt at empathizing in there at relating
46:56god you are so out of your depth you should be embarrassed that you're projecting again
47:01you've been carrying a torch for that man for 10 years 10 years of him stealing your work
47:08tossing you scraps while he screws his students and you know it's shameful and you still can't
47:13stop I don't need Garrett no you don't but you want him you want him
47:19fully and forever and you know he wants you to he just needed a little nudge you know that one
47:25day he is gonna wake up and look at you and see what is right in front of him it's
47:30been here all
47:30long you just needed those girls to get out of the way their bubbles their trinkets you you are the
47:39real thing so you stabbed cat outside her house you tracked ivy's phone and you killed her no no you
47:50have no proof I know that you threw away your keycard and ivy was smart
47:56she grabbed didn't she as she was dying is in her last moment she wanted to leave a trace someone
48:05stop
48:09please stop this monster ivy ivy was a child okay an idiotic fool
48:15and she thought that Garrett was gonna what leave his job and marry her I tried to play nice
48:21wow I told her to leave I said leave town but she she stuck around she didn't listen
48:26Garrett didn't listen either no he never does I I don't know what I have to do and that's why
48:31you threw him under the bus to make him listen to make him yours
48:35yes yes because then then it would finally be me and him and I would stand by him and I
48:41would
48:41visit him and and when he got out of prison he would know who he would know who really loved
48:47him
48:53I wonder if he's gonna visit you
49:13you okay yeah I think I used a bit more hammer than I did watercolor
49:23well whatever the tool you still painted our killer
49:33it's never easy to corner another woman
49:43you
49:44you
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