00:00And you know what happens at the end of a 5-12 season?
00:04Probably some pretty hard meetings.
00:06Hell yeah.
00:08I speak highly of the Josh Harris ownership group.
00:12I think they deserve that.
00:13I think from an off-field business side standpoint,
00:18they've done everything possible to build a winner here in Washington.
00:21I imagine they were kind of pissed.
00:24I imagine they were not thrilled with how the defense played last year.
00:27There were probably some real conversations about fixing this defense.
00:31And not that that makes a direct impact onto draft night, as it shouldn't,
00:36but I think it was very clear, we've got to get better, we've got to get faster.
00:40And I think Stiles is probably the best indicator of doing exactly that.
00:46Because even if they drafted Caleb Downs, who I think is going to be really good,
00:50he's not a burner at the safety spot.
00:52I think they just got back to what they came here to do.
00:56They got back to their rebuilding.
00:59You know, my thought process of last year, I think ownership was in,
01:04just like fans and coaching, when they say,
01:07oh, we were on the NFC Championship game, let's try to see what we can do.
01:10They got new players.
01:12I mean, they got older players because they felt they could hit the ground running.
01:14When those injuries started to hit, it completely derailed that.
01:18Now, the conversations were like, listen, we tried to go for it, didn't work,
01:22get back to what we were going to do.
01:24You know what?
01:26One of these is going to surprise you.
01:28But I thought the 15th and 16th overall pick last night were very smart.
01:33That is Tampa taking Reuben Bain Jr. at 15.
01:37And then that is, of all teams, the Jets being smart and taking Kenyon Sadiq at 16.
01:43You know what those two teams did?
01:45They didn't try to overthink it.
01:47They just saw a stud football player in front of them.
01:49They said, oh, man, this guy's here?
01:51We'll take him.
01:52And I think that was what happened for Washington last night.
01:57And Adam Peters, I wrote about this when he said it.
02:00He had a line about drafting number seven, about how hard it is to sit there and wait and wait
02:06and how it feels like an eternity and you start to overthink things.
02:11But the key is just to keep your mind fresh, to keep your board in front of you,
02:15and to draft the best player available.
02:18And I think AP did not overthink this thing.
02:23Just look at the evaluations around the league on what they got in style.
02:27In style.
02:28In style.
02:29Not style.
02:29Well, that wouldn't have been much.
02:32Speaking of style.
02:33But I guarantee they had more than one person.
02:36Totally.
02:37And they were ready.
02:38But, like, you go, oh, damn, he's gone.
02:41He's gone.
02:42Oh, we still have him.
02:43Don't worry about it.
02:45I think it would have been Delaney if Kansas City would have turned it up.
02:47That's what I'm thinking.
02:48And I know AP was pretty dismissive of that last night.
02:52What the hell is he supposed to say?
02:54You don't tell somebody.
02:56Yeah, like, after you, when you're playing poker sometimes and you throw your hand in,
03:01you don't want the people to know what you had.
03:03Because now they're reading your game.
03:05They're going to know.
03:06He don't want the people to know what he was looking at.
03:08Because the next year they're going to be reading you again.
03:11B, I keep making the wedding night analogy.
03:14At the conclusion of the wedding night, when everybody's giving the speeches and maybe some of the groomsmen have had
03:20too much to drink
03:21and you're about to head upstairs to the presidential suite, you don't take a few minutes to tell your new
03:28bride how attractive you thought the bridesmaids were.
03:32You know what I mean?
03:33Yeah.
03:34That'd be a dry night.
03:35You get to business.
03:37So I don't think that should be a surprise.
03:39I think it's, to me, it's pretty obvious why KC moved up.
03:43But that's the draft, man.
03:44That's the game we play.
03:46Let's go.
03:46Oh, is that our guy Drew Cohen on Live 5?
03:50Yep.
03:50Drew, are you there?
03:51What's up, buddy?
03:52I'm here.
03:52How are you doing, guys?
03:54Good, brother.
03:54How are you?
03:55Good.
03:56Hey, I'm really happy with the pick.
03:58And, you know, just a little nostalgia.
03:59You know, we lost one Sonny this year, so getting another one sounds good to me.
04:04You know?
04:04Mm-hmm.
04:05And...
04:05It's funny you say that, Drew.
04:08We're going to play my interview from last night with Sonny Stiles in about 10 minutes.
04:12Keep that thought in mind, Drew.
04:14Keep that thought in mind.
04:16Thank you for the call, bro.
04:17Always good to hear from you.
04:18Let's go to Stan in Northeast.
04:21What's up, Stan?
04:21What up, Stan?
04:23Hey, I'm going to be honest with you.
04:25I wanted Dexter Manley Jr.
04:27And to me, that's Ruben Bain and what have you.
04:29And I get Dexter Manley vibes from watching that guy and what have you.
04:33But then I wanted DeLane after that.
04:36But you know what?
04:36I think Sonny Stiles will be a great addition to the football team.
04:40That's all I got to say, gentlemen.
04:41All right, brother.
04:42Thanks, dude.
04:43I like you now.
04:43I think DeLane wasn't an option, right?
04:47Like, people wanted Jeremiah Love.
04:49He wasn't an option.
04:50Mm-hmm.
04:50They got taken off the board.
04:53Bain, I think, is a really good player.
04:55I thought he was going to slide outside of the top 10.
04:57He did.
04:58I think with Bain, he could end up being really good or he could just end up being good.
05:04I think he's a high floor guy.
05:05I don't know how high the ceiling is.
05:06I think Stiles' ceiling, we don't even know where it is, frankly.
05:11When I was in Scotland, we went up to the Highlands for a few days.
05:15And we were at the base of the tallest mountain in the U.K.
05:17It's called Ben Nevis.
05:19They got weird names for stuff over there, right?
05:22And Scotland, with the weather they get and everything, you get cloud cover, especially
05:26at, I think, what was about a 5,000-foot mountain, something like that.
05:30Mm-hmm.
05:30I was there for three days.
05:32I never saw the top of this thing because it was just clouds.
05:36You never saw the top.
05:38I kind of think that's Stunny Stiles' ceiling.
05:40I don't know where it goes, but I know it's pretty damn significant.
05:45Yeah.
05:46I don't know what...
05:47Now, will he achieve it?
05:49That's for him and God and football coaches to figure out.
05:52But I know it's significant.
05:54It's significant, but I think even looking at Bain, Bain went to a place where defensive
05:59tackles, especially where he went, No. 99 played down there, too.
06:04Sure.
06:05And, you know, people said stuff about him and sort of a Hall of Fame guy.
06:09But, B, that's my point with Bain, exactly to what you're saying about Warren Sapp.
06:14We knew Sapp was a D tackle.
06:16Mm-hmm.
06:16And we know Bailey is a DN.
06:18I think Bain's a little bit of both, and I think that creates a little bit of a question.
06:23But, see, it may also come in a solution where, in certain downs, he's going to play
06:29one.
06:29In other downs, he plays somewhere else where Bain, with his pass rushing ability, is a
06:34problem for a guard.
06:37And if you can bring another guy in on a passing down, put him inside, that could be a problem.
06:43Let's take one more call.
06:46Mike's in D.C.
06:47Michael, what's up, dude?
06:49Hey, guys.
06:50JP, you took my thunder, exactly what I was thinking all week, and especially last night
06:56as I was on pins and needles.
06:58Guys, just don't overthink this.
06:59Don't overthink it.
07:00You're effectively in position six.
07:03We know Mendoza was going number one.
07:05That leaves six more positions.
07:07I count seven.
07:09Playmakers.
07:10You need a playmaker.
07:12Let the board fail and style fail on your left.
07:16They did what I hoped they would do, not overthink it and just let the board fall right in your
07:21lap.
07:22They were in a great position to do that, and I'm happy they got styles.
07:26Thanks for the call, man.
07:28This is exactly what Adam Peters said before the draft.
07:31I pulled up a quote.
07:32I think sometimes you overthink that, especially when you're picking at seven.
07:37It is a long wait.
07:38It really sucks because all these good players go off the board, and you're like, come on.
07:42It takes forever, but we want to get that pick right, so I don't want to overthink it.
07:47I think that's exactly what they did, dude.
07:49AP also said, for what it's worth, that his phone was quiet last night.
07:53Said, you know, it wasn't a ton of movement there.
07:56I think probably because KC had just traded up, and the next batch of trade-up contenders
08:01probably weren't that high.
08:03We saw enough trades later, but just not that high.
08:07All right.
08:08Let's see what, I don't know.
08:11You feeling nuts, B?
08:12Yeah.
08:13Let's go.
08:14Commander Tequila, what do you got?
08:15What do you think of Stiles?
08:18What I think about Stiles, I've seen Stiles play the last two years.
08:21I really do like him a lot, but now I see him in with the NFL.
08:28Now Stiles, we've seen the players, and he ran over.
08:33These guys, they haven't seen the sun, and with the style coming up on top of him.
08:37So, I'm really happy because he does a great job as his position, and for other positions
08:44as well, Stiles got it all.
08:46So, we're going to see Ray Lewis on a style.
08:50We're going to see all kinds of a style.
08:51But this is going to be a sunny style with a sunny style.
08:54I see it.
08:56All right.
08:57Thank you, Commander.
08:58Always good to hear from you, sir.
09:00Commander, with the joke, I can picture it now, be week one, home opener, whenever it
09:06is, Commander's got his Joker burgundy and gold face paint on with a new sunny Stiles jersey.
09:11I need him to let somebody else paint his face, though.
09:15Commander, with Stiles on his back, it just feels right.
09:18I just need somebody else to paint his face.
09:19He stopped painting his face.
09:20I just need somebody else to paint his face.
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