00:00I think Adam Peters was a man of his word.
00:02He said, more likely than not, I am going to make the pick at 7.
00:06Sure enough, they did.
00:08Now, Kansas City traded up in front of them.
00:11I think that was pretty clearly to take Mansoor Delane,
00:14thinking Washington would take him.
00:16Take this at 4.
00:18So, I mean, the way this worked for Washington to get Styles,
00:23I thought the Jeremiah Love stuff at 3 was real,
00:26and I thought it was real because the owner wanted Jeremiah Love.
00:31And when the owner wants somebody, that's what's going to happen.
00:33Who's going to tell him no?
00:35Right.
00:36That dude doesn't have a boss.
00:37Maybe his wife, but she's not going to tell him no.
00:41So, when Love goes 3, I'm like, all right.
00:43In my mind, I was like, you just need a tackle to go,
00:46and then Washington's going to get their pick of Styles, Downs, Delane,
00:50which got damn near close to happening.
00:52And it wasn't a tackle, but Carnell Tate at 4 to Tennessee,
00:58really interesting pick.
01:00You know, I like Cam Ward as a player.
01:02I like Cam Ward as a dude.
01:04I love his story.
01:05So, I'm excited for him to have a real number one receiver.
01:09I thought that was a pretty ballsy pick, though,
01:13to go Carnell Tate at 4 in a draft where you're not sure who the real best lineout is.
01:17But see, that's the thing about it, Jay.
01:19We may not know who it is.
01:21That scouting department know who they think it is or who they felt was.
01:25And I think that's what you got to understand.
01:27Like, we get a lot of this information from guys, and guys we respect.
01:32So, you can't say that they were just BSing you.
01:35You take the fact that they put their work in and they started hearing things.
01:38But the one thing I say as soon as the free agency starts, lying season,
01:44the coaches that was telling them, oh, man, we don't know,
01:48they could have been lying to him to make sure they get all that information out.
01:52So, Tennessee say, okay, we're going to go take him early.
01:55We're going to take him when we want to take him.
01:56I just think that for him to go at 4, when everybody would say, oh, man,
02:01we don't know if you can take him at 7, they felt very, very highly of him.
02:05And I think other people did, too.
02:07I don't think if they don't take him at 4, he's not getting out of the top 10.
02:10No way.
02:11Yeah.
02:11No way.
02:12So, I mean, it's just like that being 6-2 and what 6-2 and 3-4, as they said,
02:19and running a 4-5-3 is different than being 5-9 and running a 4-5-3.
02:24Totally.
02:25My concerns with Carnell Tate are not that it was a 4-5-2 instead of a 4-4-8.
02:29That's just not a concern to me.
02:32But when Love and Tate go back-to-back 3 and 4, all of a sudden you realize,
02:37wow, Washington's really going to have their options here.
02:40Marvell Reese slides to the Giants.
02:42I think that was kind of a no-brainer pick for John Harbaugh.
02:45And then you see Kansas City move up, and I think everybody,
02:48considering they just traded away McDuffie, you knew they wanted a corner.
02:52All right, so KC's going to draft a lane.
02:54Washington's sitting there, and you've got Sonny Stiles on the board,
02:58Caleb Downs on the board.
02:59We had heard a lot about Jordan Tyson all of a sudden.
03:02He's on the board.
03:03And in my mind, it's going to come down to those three players.
03:07He was doing some snot crying.
03:10Who was?
03:11Jordan Tyson.
03:12When he got drafted, he saw the thing, he dropped out the nose.
03:15I'm like, bro, that's some serious stuff right there.
03:18Yeah, I'm familiar with that kind of crying lately.
03:21At least his with tears of joy.
03:23But I think with Washington, when they get on the clock, and to me, it was Styles, Tyson, or Downs.
03:33And I knew that of those three, how much Dan Quinn liked Sonny Stiles.
03:38And I knew, I know, we know, the whole world kind of knows, how much Adam Peters likes his athletes.
03:44Likes his freak athletes.
03:47Yep, that he is.
03:48And Sonny Stiles being there, it seemed very, very obvious.
03:53Sure enough, that was the pick.
03:55Well, he kind of felt it from the beginning.
03:58He did.
03:58That was cool.
03:59So, he told the story, and he told the story before the draft, that he woke up with just a
04:04gut feeling that he was going to be a commander.
04:06Did you see how his handler was dressed?
04:09Oh, it was a burgundy guy.
04:10I didn't think about that.
04:11So, your video that you posted.
04:13Yeah.
04:14Because B.
04:15Oh, of him wearing the hat?
04:16B. Colbert was telling me a story that Sonny had said.
04:20So, I'm looking at your video that you posted when he was walking in, getting the hat and stuff.
04:24And his handler was behind him, has on a burgundy suit, with a yellowish gold shirt.
04:30That's wild.
04:31So, I zoomed in, and I told everybody, I said, look at the bottom right of this picture.
04:36He had a strong feeling, so much so that he had this person dressed like the commanders.
04:42That's really interesting, because let's also be honest here.
04:48Those dudes come to Pittsburgh with a number of suits available to them.
04:52You know what I mean?
04:53Yeah.
04:53Like, they have options.
04:55Yeah, that's interesting.
04:56I see the dude you're talking about.
04:58Yeah, and he.
04:58The video I posted is Jared, then Styles, then.
05:01Yeah.
05:01I don't know if that's Sonny's guy or what, but that dude is clearly wearing a burgundy suit.
05:05Well, B. said that that was his guy.
05:07Okay.
05:08You know, so.
05:08Yeah, that's probably somebody from his agency.
05:10And he stated that, well, I think Ryan was just telling me there's a thing of him sitting in a
05:15damn barber chair.
05:16And they asked him, where do you think you're going?
05:18And he said, commanders.
05:21Like, he just felt it.
05:23And I think you start getting a good feeling of people when you're talking to them.
05:27Absolutely.
05:28And so, I got to talk to Styles last night.
05:31And so, it's funny.
05:33Bickle had a tweet last night that this is a project.
05:36But then I heard Bickle on the junks this morning, and I don't think he meant it in the connotation
05:41of what project means.
05:43You know what I mean?
05:43Mm-hmm.
05:44Like, this is a dude that had a position change at Ohio State.
05:48And for a linebacker to be 6'5 and run a 4-4-6, that is different, right?
05:54But I think that's exactly what is driving Washington to want him.
05:57Hell yeah.
05:58When I talked to Sonny last night, and I know you talked to him, too, he said, I feel like
06:02I'm just scratching the surface of what I could be.
06:04And if you're Adam Peters, and you're Dan Quinn, and you're Durante Jones, and you get that type of dude
06:11and that type of athlete with just – I am not making any comparisons here.
06:17But you have a coach that was there at the beginning, the ascension of Bobby Wagner to what is going
06:24to be a Hall of Fame career.
06:25You have a front office executive that was there at the beginning of Fred Warner's ascension to a Hall of
06:31Fame career.
06:32Mm-hmm.
06:33Could it be a miss?
06:34Absolutely.
06:35The NFL draft is a crapshoot.
06:36But, like, when those two guys see these tools physically, the type of kid he is, I got to spend
06:42five minutes with him, B.
06:44But it was wildly impressive.
06:46You know what I mean?
06:46If you look closer in his face, he resembles Bobby.
06:50Yeah, a little.
06:51I see that.
06:51He's just five inches taller.
06:53People look at his height.
06:54So what I said last night to Santana and Brian was this guy has shown he can be a middle
07:00-year linebacker.
07:01And I heard Baldy do a breakdown of him.
07:05He said this is essentially a guy, Mike linebacker.
07:09You watch him shed blocks and make tackles.
07:12He's sure.
07:13He can run with anybody that plays a tight end position.
07:17Totally.
07:17Or backs.
07:18Backs coming out of the backfield.
07:19Mike, like, when you hear Durante and you hear Dan and you look at Dan's history, you start thinking, this
07:27kid doesn't have to just be the middle linebacker like middle linebackers are.
07:32What if during the game at one point, you know, McGee pops into Mike.
07:37He pops outside.
07:38He can get a damn pass rush move at 6'5", sleek like that with that speed.
07:43He could give linemen a damn problem, too.
07:46So I think the way that they discuss things about loving the person with the – can be able to
07:55do more than one thing.
07:56He's perfect for them.
07:59Versatility is the word I was trying to get.
08:01Absolutely.
08:01I'm on two hours of sleep.
08:04I know the feeling, B.
08:05So, Sonny Stiles, 6'5", 244.
08:08And people are like, oh, well, that's not a linebacker.
08:10Well, it's damn near the exact measurements of Tremaine Edmonds.
08:14And it's an inch taller, damn near the exact measurements as Brian Urlacher.
08:19So, I think the NFL is the ball.
08:22People's bodies are changing.
08:23It's not the same.
08:24And I think – I wish I remember who – I saw this tweet last night, and it was from,
08:30like, a Commander's fan account.
08:31And he's like, last year, everybody was screaming about the linebackers are too slow.
08:37And now you've added Leo Chennault, whose athletic testing is completely off the charts.
08:41And now you've added Sonny Stiles, whose athletic testing is even better than Chennault's.
08:46And I think it's like they saw what we saw and are trying to address it.
08:51And as much as I like Chennault and Owe, you now have five years of player control on a rookie
08:58deal with a dude that is one of the most gifted players athletically in this class.
09:04Jay just tells you that people like to complain.
09:07Yeah, I agree with that.
09:08That's all it is.
09:09But for me, you know, the criticisms I've heard that I don't agree with, but I can wrap my head
09:16around where they come from, if you look at 24 to 25, the numbers dipped a little, right?
09:22Okay.
09:23They also played two fewer games.
09:25Ohio State didn't get to the national championship game, I would add.
09:29But nobody is going to – they don't want to hear that.
09:33Right.
09:33Although you played less games and your numbers dropped a little bit, nobody will hear that.
09:37Look at the average per game.
09:39I just tell people, in any sport, in anything you want to compare, stop looking because some people might play
09:44200 games.
09:45Some people might play 100 games.
09:47Look at the average per game and see how good they were.
09:51Now, the other side of this is, well, you could have taken Caleb Downs.
09:55You could have taken Jordan Tyson.
09:56And for the folks that are saying you've got to add a weapon for Jayden, you've got to add a
10:01weapon for Jayden, I hear you.
10:02I don't want you to feel unheard, right?
10:05But if the defense is better, that helps Jayden a lot too.
10:09And for me, Jordan Tyson just had real question marks, the lingering hamstring stuff.
10:14They also say the immaturity of him.
10:16That's a dude that missed over a third of his college career.
10:20Now, of the three injuries, you've got a knee, which I will always keep in mind, a collarbone, which I
10:26discount because that's a freak injury.
10:28How you land on it, it heals, you should be fine.
10:31It's a broken bone.
10:32Those heal, you should be okay.
10:33The lingering hammy stuff gives me pause.
10:36So, like, I understood not going Tyson there.
10:39I do think you've got to look for a wide out at 71, but we'll see what happens.
10:43And then the Caleb Downs thing, in my first mock draft I did for Beltway Football, Monumental Sports Network, I
10:50had them taking Caleb Downs.
10:51I think Caleb Downs is the cleanest prospect in this draft, period.
10:55I, like, to me, if my big board, if you will, I had Bailey one.
11:01I might have had Downs, too.
11:02I think he comes in, hits the ground running immediately.
11:04Mm-hmm.
11:05But, I think it was really kind of, like, when I heard Lewis say what he said, that basically made
11:11me take a little pause.
11:12Because, yes, he's probably one of the cleanest guys, but to take that position that high, he has to come
11:19with something else.
11:20And, as Brian was telling me last night, and when you look at him, he doesn't look very big.
11:24Brian say, bro, he's not big at all.
11:27That's why he did.
11:28Yeah.
11:29So, if he was 6'3", like Sean Taylor, he probably would have gone high.
11:33Higher.
11:34You know what I mean?
11:35But he doesn't bring that.
11:36But, yes, he's probably clean as they come, but you've got to have something else that make you, like, they
11:42look at you differently.
11:43I think Downs, from a defensive player, has an extremely high floor.
11:48I think he comes in right away and helps you.
11:51I think Styles, undeniably, has a higher ceiling.
11:55Because he can become a lot of different things.
11:58And, I think, when you're picking seven, the ceiling of the player matters.
12:04And, I think it was, I don't know that it's telling.
12:08I believe, at the end of the show yesterday, we all made a prediction.
12:11And, I believe mine was, I think, Caleb Downs ends up sliding outside of the top ten.
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