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00:06Hi, just before we start the show tonight I want to show you this apple hut here at the Tasmanian
00:12Museum and Art Gallery. Now in Antarctica it's known to get down to minus 87 degrees so this
00:19is a place where you can find a warm bed on a freezing cold night. Let's take a look inside.
00:23Oh my, no. Wow, I didn't know penguins made it so enthusiastically. Oh, that one just took
00:31up its tuxedo. Okay, wow. Well, there are some things you just can't unsee tonight at the museum.
00:58Hello, I'm Alex Lee. We are inside the stunning Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery. And speaking
01:05of stunning, here are our four guests playing for the honour of having one of their own personal
01:11treasures on display right here at TMAG. Can you please welcome Colin Lane and his school
01:18birthday? Lizzie Hu and her childhood rugby jersey. Commemorative place owned by Dane Simpson.
01:30And finally, Katie Robertson and her son's artwork. We're going to find out more about our guests
01:38and their wonderful items later. But first, let's put a label on it. They say a picture paints
01:47a thousand words. But a label at a museum has about 50, which personally I think is a much
01:51more reasonable number. I'm going to present our panel with a real object from the museum's
01:56collection. Two of our players have been given information on the item, but neither of them
02:01know who is correct. Our other two players have to decide which is the right label. Shall
02:07we reveal our first object? Yes. Katie, what does your label say we're looking at right now?
02:20We are looking at a platypus jar. From the late 1800s, there is a platypus specimen in yonder jar.
02:31In yonder. In yonder jar. In yonder. Yonder. Yonder. You're getting into character. She's
02:37like, did I stutter? Yeah. She said yonder. Okay. Thou wiltest a platypus in thou jar. Yonder
02:45just over hither. I'm never going to go off script again. When first seen by European colonisers,
02:53they did not know how to classify such a thing. Some believed the specimens were a hoax
03:00by Chinese sailors. French naturalist Jules Verreau observed them in Tasmania from 1842
03:07to 1844. Jules Verreau. Yeah. Jules. Jules. Hold that thought, Lizzie. Hold that thought.
03:14He reported that one tried to climb into bed with him. Ooh. That happens to me all the time.
03:21Oh, come on. I mean, that was it. Yeah. Interesting story. I could riff more on Frenchmen
03:26being pervs if you want. I wouldn't mind. What does your label say, Dan? All right. Don't
03:31believe this Pepe Le Pew yarn. Pepe Le Pew? Okay. This is a Cascade beer pot. It's from 1848.
03:44Tasmania's first travellers. You know, pot's designed for the journey from Hobart to Launceston.
03:49So it's like a 10-minute walk. Clay kept beer cooler than the wooden barrels. This is why
03:58beer sizes are called pots and schooners. Beer was exported in pots for smaller journeys
04:05and beer barrels on ships for larger journeys. So small beer equals a pot and a large beer
04:11equals a schooner. Okay. Mmm. Joppen, knowledge and facts. Both. That's always good.
04:19Right. Lizzie and Colin, which label is correct? Is this a jar full of beer or a jar full of
04:25platypus? Ooh. I mean, how many of these jars could you drink between Hobart and Launceston?
04:32Could I? Yeah. I am leaning towards platypus. You think there's a platypus inside that jar? Yeah,
04:40because I think that would have been a really strange thing. And they would have been like,
04:43well, what the hell is this? I think they just would have had a jar by standing there. And
04:48then they would have been like, oh, God. Yeah. Don't you think, like, it's real Australian
04:54to be like, I want to have a beer, but now. Yeah. No, no, I think it is. It's a
05:01great slogan. Yeah.
05:03I think it is. What about you, Colin? What are you leaning towards? I don't like the, um, I don't
05:06think the platypus, but I just, because it's so, um, such a kind of far-fetched, kind of left-of
05:12-field
05:12kind of, uh, thing, I kind of think the platypus. Okay, Colin and Lizzie, you're both going to go
05:17with platypus? Oh, you're going platypus as well? Yes. Oh. Yeah, I'm going platypus. Yeah. Platypie.
05:22Yeah. Let's put a label on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, the platypus. Yeah, come on. Platypusie.
05:38Come on. Woo. It is indeed a platypus specimen in that jar. So at the time it was captured,
05:45this mysterious creature didn't fit into any known classification systems, but it did fit
05:51into this jar. And Europeans were so confused by the platypus for decades. The European scientists
05:58kept going, does it lay eggs? How could it lay eggs? What is it? The Aboriginal people were
06:01like, it lays eggs, guys. Yeah. It definitely lays eggs. I can't believe how many times I
06:05had to tell them. It still took them another 80 years until they figured it out for themselves.
06:12And of course, any beer-drinking Tasmanians watching at home would know that these aren't
06:17colonial beer pots because we don't call them pots here, do we? What do we call them, Katie?
06:24Katie! We call them ten ounces. Oh, yeah, we call them ten ounces. I'm so sorry.
06:29And I'm disowned from Tasmania now. That's right. So you've got to get out of there
06:33to the mainland with you.
06:36Let's reel the next object.
06:45Who's that guy? That's one of our wonderful collection staff here at the museum. Because
06:50you comedians are not allowed to touch anything. Lizzie, what are we looking at here? Lotus
06:57shoes from 1850. Lotus shoes were worn by women in China as a cultural practice. Is there
07:06a reason I'm doing this? Couldn't imagine why. So lotus shoes, they believed it to be a symbol
07:12of beauty, modesty, and morality. Highly desired golden lotus feet were only 7.5 centimeters long.
07:20Foot binding declined in popularity in 1911 with the fall of Imperial China. But I think they would've
07:26done much better if there was wicky feet back then. Foot binding was survived in rural China
07:32where a foot-bound disco dancing troupe became famous in its rural southwest regions. It was
07:41kind of like the opposite of Irish dancing, though. It was just more like up here. It was just
07:48a lot of shoulders, a lot of arnie at the party sort of stuff. Yeah.
07:53Who's arnie? Aunty. Oh, auntie. Sorry, I didn't enunciate. Sorry, Colin. Sorry, Colin.
07:59Yeah, that's alright. What's that? What have you got, Colin? Me? Yes, you. Okay. The Chinese
08:05inspired dog shoes. Yeah. I know. Pretty incredible. I'm just going to put my glasses on because that's
08:13easier. What's that? These are decorative shoes for a greyhound called Blossom belonging to eccentric
08:21socialite Edna Welsh, Raquel's sister. And so the dog's back legs were injured after being caught in a
08:29rabbit trap. So this was a decorative style developed in Europe characterised by the use of Chinese
08:34motifs. Custom-made silk shoes that they tied to the dog's hind legs when in public to hide the disfigurement.
08:42And they were donated by the family in 1996 along with some porcelain plates and also some Tupperware and a,
08:52funnily enough, a gluten-free chicken stir-fry. So that's, they're Chinese inspired shoes I think you'll find from 1902
09:01and not what she said.
09:04Well Katie and Dane, which label do you think is the correct one? Are these the type of shoe worn
09:08by disco
09:09dancing Chinese ladies or the shoes of a glammed up greyhound? So obviously I want it to be the dog.
09:17Because, aww. They wear booties. Greyhounds wear booties. So you have a greyhound? Yeah. Does your greyhound, I know sometimes
09:24they put them in jackets and all sorts of things. Oh yeah, he's got a whole wardrobe. And they do
09:27wear booties. And they wear booties.
09:29What's your greyhound called? Owen. Owen. Owen. Oh, Owen. I reckon you could have said anything and people would have
09:36gone, oh.
09:38What do, what do you, I? Well, I, you, Lizzie had me until the dancing troupe.
09:45Binding, binding a foot to stay this small is difficult. Yeah. Yeah. Very desirable then. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
09:56go with, I reckon Lano.
09:58Okay, of greyhound shoes. And what about you, Katie? I'm gonna go with Lizzie.
10:02Okay. Let's put a label on it.
10:09They are Chinese lotus shoes.
10:14Wow.
10:18So foot binding began during the southern Tang dynasty in the 10th century and it went on for the next
10:23thousand years.
10:24And it does kind of seem bizarre that this practice, this very good listening face, Colin.
10:29Absolutely.
10:30Sorry, it's so good, it's putting me up.
10:32Yeah, it's right there. It's very...
10:35How can listening... Tell us all, Lizzie.
10:37Be so loud.
10:40Yeah, this practice continued for such a long time and by today's standards, it does seem like putting someone's feet
10:46in that is really brutal.
10:48But you've got to remember these shoes are from 1850.
10:51So at the same time, over in Western countries, they were putting little girls in courses.
10:57Oh, wow.
10:57Yeah.
10:58So, you know, it goes to show that it doesn't matter what country you're in, you can still torture women.
11:05Tiny little feet and a snatched waist.
11:07Are they Skims by Kim Kardashian?
11:10So, at the end of our first round, Dane with a little work to do and it's Lizzie, Colin and
11:15Katie on two points.
11:17Yay!
11:17Thanks, Katie.
11:27Whoever wins tonight will have a personal item displayed here at TMAG.
11:32Dane, what is so special about this plate you've brought in?
11:35Oh, yeah, okay.
11:37So, this is a commemorative plate.
11:39It's about Captain James Cook.
11:41Your friend?
11:42My fave.
11:44But it's commemorative of his trip to Hawaii in 1778.
11:50Oh, beautiful.
11:51Oh, I love it so much.
11:54If anyone knows the yarn, he went to Hawaii on Valentine's Day.
11:59Um, the Hawaiians loved him so much that they, uh, they killed him.
12:04And the yarn is, is that they cooked him and ate him.
12:07And to commemorate that, I've got a plate.
12:22This round is called Deadly or Deadly.
12:25In this game, I'll present you with an exhibit and you simply have to raise your paddle and tell me
12:30if it is deadly, as in it has killed people, or is it deadly, as in it's cool.
12:35Now, before we start, let's test out these paddles.
12:38Can I see the deadly dangerous side?
12:41If you think that's killed people, you hold that one up.
12:44Now, can I see the deadly cool side?
12:47Mine, mine's got...
12:50Mine's got dangerous on both sides.
12:53Let's play.
12:54Okay.
12:54Our first exhibit is Crocoite.
12:58Now, this is a super rare mineral found in Western Tasmania.
13:03Is it deadly, as in it has killed a person before?
13:06Or is it deadly, as in it's as cool as Dane?
13:12I'm just imagining a situation where someone steps on it and they get cut that looks sharp.
13:21And then there's blood.
13:25Great reasoning.
13:26What about you, Dane, you've gone with deadly cool?
13:28Deadly Dane.
13:30Juris being my middle...
13:31No, I...
13:33I know arancini balls when I see them.
13:37Right? It looks like food.
13:39Powerful.
13:40The end.
13:42Lizzie, you think this can kill you?
13:45Yeah, I think it's been used as a weapon.
13:47It looks hard and spiky.
13:49Colin, you've gone with deadly cool.
13:51Deadly cool.
13:52You're not worried about this?
13:53Deadly cool.
13:54The end.
13:55No.
13:57Yeah, I just think it looks cool.
13:59It's very colourful.
14:00It's pretty.
14:01It's pretty.
14:02We're not writing it's dating profile.
14:04I think it's just deadly cool.
14:07This is deadly cool.
14:10Yes!
14:11Come on!
14:14Scientists have described it as the world's most beautiful natural object.
14:18But only because I refuse to be in a room with scientists.
14:21Oh!
14:24Now we have a platypus spur.
14:28Found on the hind leg of the male platypus.
14:31Is it deadly or deadly?
14:33Lizzie, why have you gone with deadly cool?
14:36Oh, I think it might be some sort of activation toe.
14:44Love to hear more.
14:46I don't know if this is the male platypus and then it's like gives the thumbs up.
14:55To the female platypus and is like, I'm good baby.
15:00Dane, you've gone with deadly dangerous?
15:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:03Because it's poisonous.
15:05Oh.
15:06That's...
15:06That's really...
15:07The end!
15:10Okay.
15:11Well, I can tell you they are deadly cool.
15:15Oh, boo!
15:17Well done Lizzie, you got that right.
15:19So the spur does contain venom, but while extremely painful and resistant to morphine, it is not deadly to humans.
15:30And finally, this is a taxidermied Eurasian J.
15:36Now, I can reveal that it is dead.
15:40But...
15:41Is it deadly?
15:42Dead, right.
15:43Or deadly?
15:44All right, Katie, you've gone with deadly cool.
15:47Okay.
15:47Something happened to me.
15:49Oh, wow.
15:50Is this the time?
15:51Tiny you!
15:52No, so in my 20s, someone would be like, there's a bird.
15:56And I'd be like, okay.
15:57And then suddenly, I turned 35 and I woke up and I was just delighted.
16:04And woo!
16:05Woo!
16:06God!
16:06You know?
16:07Yeah.
16:07So I'm, I mean, so birds are so deadly.
16:10Are you a Disney princess?
16:12I know, right?
16:14Colin, you've gone with deadly dangerous.
16:17Yeah.
16:17You do not trust this bird.
16:18I mean, look, look at the look on his face.
16:20Like, I mean, look.
16:22If you cut him off in the traffic, he goes nuts.
16:33What about you, Lizzie?
16:34Deadly cool.
16:36Yeah.
16:36Had me at Eurasian.
16:38I can tell you, it is deadly deadly.
16:42Come on.
16:44Come on.
16:45Come on.
16:46Come on.
16:48Now, this species of bird, the Eurasian jay, is not deadly.
16:53But that particular specimen was prepared for display using arsenic soap and other toxic chemicals back in 1900.
17:03So that museum object itself is deadly deadly.
17:08Oh.
17:09And it's so deadly.
17:10We actually, we need to take it away right now.
17:12It's Mr. Suit!
17:15I mean, I don't know why the collection staff gets the suit, but I don't.
17:18Yeah, that's right.
17:19Can anyone else smell almonds?
17:21Well, I've had a good run.
17:24Someone else who had a good run is Colin.
17:26Yes.
17:27Who sure knows he's deadly from his deadly.
17:29Yeah.
17:39Everyone is playing to have a personal item put on display here at TMAG.
17:44Now, Colin, what's this treasure?
17:46I've got my school case from when I was five years old.
17:54That was in 1871, Dad.
17:57And I think it is.
17:59It says Colin Lane on this little label here.
18:04And I tell you what, for a 55-year-old case, that adhesive is doing pretty well.
18:13So, why am I holding on to this case?
18:15I don't know.
18:17Will my kids like it when I pass away?
18:19I'm not sure.
18:20Why am I bringing on this show?
18:22Who would know?
18:23Am I having a conversation with myself?
18:25Maybe.
18:27So, that's my little case from circa 1970.
18:32Well, it's wonderful that the museum will put on display our winner's item,
18:35but just between you and me, I don't know if they want to.
18:47Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it,
18:51which means we might be playing this next game for a very long time.
18:54Now, like a youth pastor sitting backwards on a chair,
18:58I want to show you this really cool Bible.
19:03So, in 1918, this pocket Bible saved the life of Australian World War One soldier,
19:10Wilfred Upchurch, who was shot while stationed in France.
19:13But the Bible, which he kept in his chest pocket, stopped the bullet and saved his life,
19:20literally putting a hole in the Holy Bible.
19:22You know, it just goes to show, guys, for all the non-believers out there,
19:26books really do save lives.
19:28In this game, that pocket Bible is our anchor of time,
19:33and our museum collection staff are going to present you with different items.
19:38Your job is to tell me where it belongs on the timeline,
19:42before or after our anchor of time.
19:45Let's see our first object.
19:54What is it?
19:55I'll tell you.
19:58This is an Olympic medal from the Paris Games.
20:02This bronze medal was not handed out to athletes finishing third,
20:06it was in fact handed out to every athlete who took part.
20:09That's right, people who angrily call into AM radio yelling that participation trophies have ruined kids' sports.
20:15They were doing this at the Olympics.
20:18But which Paris Olympics?
20:21Before or after 1918?
20:25Miss, she's copying.
20:27Lizzie.
20:28Let's see your answers.
20:32Ooh.
20:35There's no teams, but there's teams.
20:38But of course he's right again.
20:40Yeah.
20:40Katie, why do you think this medal came after the Bible?
20:44I panicked and I wrote the number two.
20:47Good honesty.
20:49This is unfair, because Colin was there.
20:54Well, I remember watching Chariots of Fire.
20:57Yeah.
20:58I think it's before, because the Paris Olympics were before the 1918 story.
21:04Let's see if this participation medal was before or after our pocket Bible.
21:13It was after.
21:16So 1924, to be precise.
21:19So in 1924, Australia sent 34 athletes and picked up three gold medals.
21:24Nick Winter in triple jump, Boyd Charlton in the 1500 metre freestyle swimming.
21:28And Dick Eve in diving.
21:30Of course we all remember Dick Eve the night before Dick Day.
21:33When not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
21:37So, Dane and Katie, you were correct.
21:40Wow, well done.
21:43Okay, time for our next object.
21:51What is it?
21:52Alex will tell you.
21:55Okay, time to listen.
22:10This is a recording of Palawa woman Grandmother Smith, and is the only original sound recording of any of the
22:18traditional Tasmanian Aboriginal languages.
22:21Grandmother Smith was proud of her Indigenous identity and made the choice to share her culture through these records.
22:27So write down your answer.
22:29One.
22:30Two.
22:31Or three.
22:34Mmm.
22:36Okay, Lizzie.
22:38Three.
22:39So you think this came after 1924?
22:41Yeah.
22:42I think so.
22:43Just because of, um, technology.
22:49Technology!
22:52Dane.
22:53Uh, yeah, I think, I think it's pretty cool to have a recording of something so, so ancient, but that
22:59comes from this country.
23:00That's pretty, yeah, so I like that.
23:02Great.
23:02I, I, I don't know, but I do know that we, to be serious for a second, weren't taught this
23:11at school in Tasmania, and that was really cool to listen to, like, to be in the room and hear
23:17that was pretty cool.
23:18It's not just, not just Tasmania, it's across the whole country.
23:21People don't learn about this stuff in school, so they should be.
23:23Well, thank God for quiz shows set in a museum.
23:26Yeah.
23:28Wonderful.
23:28Well, let's see where it goes on the timeline.
23:37Yes, it was in position one in 1899, so a point each to Colin, Dane and Katie.
23:46So these recordings were used to help inform Palawakani, which is the language Tasmanian Aboriginal people speak today.
23:54In 2017, those recordings were added to the UNESCO Australian Memory of the World Register, and they are really, really
24:01important recordings.
24:02And a good reminder that your podcast isn't.
24:14Now, we're close to seeing who will have their item on display at TMAG.
24:19Currently, we have Dane and Lizzie sitting a little off the pace, but Colin and Katie leading from the front.
24:28Well, that could all change, because before we go, we're headed to the museum's animals section to finish with a
24:34quiz all about zoology.
24:36It's time for hands on buzzards.
24:42First question.
24:44The blue healer dog was first bred in 1825 by crossing an English droving dog with what wild animal?
24:53Colin.
24:54Lisa McCune.
24:57Not Lisa McCune.
24:59Dane.
25:00It's always a poodle.
25:01It's gotta be a poodle.
25:03Lizzie.
25:04A dingo?
25:05Dingo is correct.
25:08When underwater, the Mary River Turtle breathes through which unusual orifice?
25:15Dane.
25:16A straw.
25:18Not straw.
25:19They're phasing them out.
25:21What orifice?
25:22Lizzie.
25:23It's Bert.
25:24It's Bert.
25:24It's Bert.
25:25Yes.
25:27Name a country other than Australia where you can find echidnas in the wild.
25:33North New Zealand.
25:33New Guinea.
25:34That is correct.
25:35Come on!
25:39New Guinea or Indonesia.
25:41Yeah, you can still find echidnas up there.
25:42What is this animal which has had enough of your nonsense?
25:49Katie, what is that?
25:50Is that a tawny frog mouth?
25:52Correct.
25:52Yes, it is a tawny frog mouth.
25:56Bird of the year.
25:57Bird of the year.
25:59Bird of the year.
25:59There you go.
26:00It looks like he starts every email off with, as per my last email.
26:04Exactly.
26:06Dutch explorer, Willem de Vlaming, named Rottnest Island so because he mistakenly thought
26:12the quokkas on the-
26:13Colin.
26:14Were rats?
26:15That's correct.
26:16Come on.
26:18Now it's Dutch.
26:19Which much-memed bird was suggested by the Queensland Tourism Minister as a good mascot
26:25for the 2032 Brisbane Games?
26:29Lizzie.
26:30I know this bird quite well.
26:32It's stolen many of my lunches.
26:33The ibis.
26:35Correct.
26:36Oh.
26:37Yeah.
26:38Beautiful bird.
26:39So they wanted the mascot to be bin chickens.
26:42That's right.
26:43Cane toads were introduced in 1935 to control pests affecting which crop?
26:50Colin.
26:51Sugar cane?
26:52Sugar cane is correct.
26:54Last question.
26:56While there are no native people nor polar bears in the Antarctic, about 40 million what
27:03inhabit the continent during breeding season?
27:07Colin.
27:09Penguins?
27:11Correct.
27:13That's it.
27:14That is the end of the show, which means, Colin, you are the winner to the United Museum!
27:24It's time to give away your school case.
27:32Give it up for Colin Lane and his school case!
27:36And a word of warning to our TMAG assistants.
27:39If there's anything like my kids' school bags, do trick it for alternators first.
27:43Thank you so much for playing with us.
27:45We've had a ball.
27:46Good night!
27:46Thank you so much for the time.
27:47Ready to walk with us.
27:48Goang!
27:49Do you?
27:53That's how I do.
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