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The Sports Junkies learn which of them historically dominates the NFL draft.
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00:00one of my least favorite things is ai but if it's gonna rank you don't like alan iverson i mean
00:05he's
00:06fine uh but if it's gonna rank me highly for my mock draft picks over the last 10 plus years
00:12here
00:12on the air then i might uh take a different stance towards it yeah i mean sometimes i know i've
00:17done
00:18bits you know what i mean like not necessarily picking like today i'll be honest i was thinking
00:24about taking jeremiah love number two i know the jets aren't going to do that yeah you're kind of
00:28tipping your hand as to what you might do well i'm just telling you that i'm not doing that okay
00:31all right you're giving intel but i'm sitting there at number three so you're not taking love
00:36you're giving your guy intel i mean you can't tell the other gm horrible gm i mean he might be
00:42blowing
00:42smoke he could be but i don't think he's doing that now i don't think he's thinking next level
00:47on this you think jb's a pretty two-dimensional thing so you know what he's pretty much telling
00:51us what he's doing he's telegraphing his moves so he's slipping to the cards not really write down
00:56who you think i'm going to take because i'm not going to move i'll i'll i'll write it down right
01:00now i'm a savvy gm i'm not going to i'm not going to give you any sort of uh tells
01:04as to who i think
01:05you should be doing that what is there a player that could slip you pick three right no i picked
01:09two i picked second all right so you could be mine your mind could be made up yeah that's fair
01:14but
01:15like at three if you said your mind was made up i would say well that's kind of crazy well
01:18what if
01:18what i'm saying is that when we have done mock drafts in the past i have done picks to just
01:24shake
01:24things up not done picks right like as a real gm and i think all of us have done that
01:29to an extent
01:30are you saying that to to mitigate the results of the search is that what he's doing yeah he doth
01:37protest too much i always try my best yeah he's doing a pr move getting ahead of it i like
01:43that i
01:44always try my best but i'm not averse to taking a johnny menzo and i believe it but i believe
01:49it
01:50yeah i never took johnny and didn't believe it i thought he was gonna be a stud well i think
01:54cakes
01:54took johnny i took him because i thought it was what cleveland needed apparently wasn't what they
01:59needed well i believed in him i believed in john well i'm gonna shake up the draft today ah oh
02:03see he's
02:04interesting yeah well what if mike moore slash mike marsh shakes up the draft and has to pick up a
02:10sleeve
02:11he could but i don't know doesn't take mendoza with the raider well then the cardinals would have to
02:15take him right yes yes the cardinals would have to take him i mean the jets would have to take
02:20him away the jets would have to take him yeah if if yeah if mike spitek over there passes on
02:26mendoza
02:27that is huge ripple effect throughout the draft here's what i know is going to happen we're going
02:32to post the results on twitter and everyone's going to call us idiots and you guys don't know what
02:36you're doing right this is only what we would do if we were the gm that's it mocks be damned
02:42right
02:43all right valby so how tell us the details on how this all worked as far as like feeding it
02:48into
02:48ai or drab you might have the details well i went i went back and i was uh accumulating everyone's
02:53picks pick history okay i think it goes back for some people as far as 2014 wow it's pretty extensive
03:00it's pretty extensive there's people have a record okay do you have some highlights so for each person
03:06like the best player they draft and the worst player have at least one good player i got i got
03:10all
03:11of it i got it right here does everybody have at least one good player everyone's got good players
03:14everyone's got a johnny manzel everyone's got a stinker all right so don't worry so valdez will
03:20this was 10 years back you said more than that but but sometimes there are people who are picking
03:25multiple times in the first round so not everyone has a legit 12 person roster okay that they go
03:32through all right here's what i told gemini i gave him the list that valdez put together and i said
03:36just average this out you know not everyone has the same amount of picks just a general overview
03:42of who you think is the best highlight some winners and some losers give us a grade and rank
03:46all right all right okay the big loser and mar's not in it because he's only been on the show
03:50a
03:50couple years okay got it yeah uh i think
03:56uh to maybe build some tension let's start in the middle so we got six six guys here let's start
04:02with
04:02three and four okay uh number three they they call this gm the physical trait hunter this guy draft
04:09monsters he focuses on physical specimens and high volume producers leading to a very respectable
04:15roster they're gonna give this guy a b plus and some of his uh guess who that is sure yeah
04:23absolutely
04:23lurch why do you say that that also is my guess because he likes big quarterbacks like he likes
04:30he likes that like i don't know that's just my guess i have no idea i have no idea who
04:33i drafted
04:34all right coming in at number three lurch papa
04:37all right so all right hold on so out of the ten or how many guys we drafted
04:46highlights and lowlights yeah how many how many good players versus khalil mack you drafted
04:50that's a great one that's a good pick and herbert kadarius tony i think was a big big whiff for
04:55you
04:56you drafted him earlier but i got herbert yeah you have herbert um you have makai becton
05:04harris johnson brian thomas jr wasn't great last year so you got some great guys brian thomas had a
05:09good rookie year but i want you guys to know they grade this heavily on the first contract
05:14oh okay all right so if they move on elsewhere and become better players later on then you know
05:19and then last year i took pierce right yeah so coming to number three lurch papa all right
05:24at least i'm my last although last year you didn't really take pierce we lobbied to eric in
05:29a war room setting for eric to take it yeah take who we really do we removed last year's players
05:36because we didn't really do a draft last year we lost yeah everyone was like a director of scouting
05:41and you lobbied oh so he wasn't included for this correct okay i got you all right number four
05:46the nickname is the high volume gambler grade b minus this draft strategy high risk high reward he has
05:53drafted some of the most electric players in the league but also some of the biggest what ifs
05:58oh um some of his misses ruben foster and jamis winston huge duds some of his hits waddle minka
06:08fitzpatrick and ezekiel elliott coming in at number four with a b minus john paul flame
06:15there he goes first reward i knew i took zeke it's not looking good for me yeah i don't want
06:23to
06:23be in five or six so that leaves um valdez myself cakes and bickle yeah left all right let's go
06:31down
06:31to uh number five here i'm cringing here i'm just i'm just waiting for my name to be called
06:36in one of these bottom two um the identity gm grade c plus this guy's got a split personality
06:45he either drafts a superstar or a player who struggles to see a second contract could be me
06:50that could be got some big hits here that described being number five okay elite gems
06:55christian mccaffrey and jalen ramsey are among some of the best of the decade but he's got a lot
07:01a lot of bust here including baker mayfield sam darnold and greg robinson at the top of the
07:07draft i don't think i want to number five that'd be me matt valdez they hated hated his mayfield and
07:15i liked mayfield that's unfair well not only did i take mayfield i took darnold though hey
07:24he's getting a bit screwed there i would ask jim and i to reevaluate well he should be maybe signed
07:29free agents or something but not drafting them because those gms got fired for drafting those
07:33guys all right so you can be in the person i will blame the coaches the coaches didn't i know
07:37they
07:37didn't develop them right they went on to bigger and better things it's not your fault not like me
07:42to defend somebody else because i don't care but i think you got jack short short end of the stick
07:47although 2018 was considered a very very very elite cubie class and i didn't get one of them okay
07:54right i didn't get alan i didn't get lamar okay he's also got some numbers in here they
07:59don't we don't list mariotta cj henderson who's trayvon morai i don't know he's a safety
08:07he's silly i think you mispronounced that quarterback's name but you're probably right
08:12you're right you guys won that one i lied um all right so that's not last size yeah not last
08:20yeah
08:20um oh so you don't know the results either no right yeah drab drab i i have an idea because
08:26i know who everyone drafted but i don't know what gemini would think it's me he's drab peters
08:31over there because i like baker coming out why don't you go to two before we go to six
08:35two now two the high floor tactical gm this guy has a phenomenal eye for nfl ready talent he leans
08:45towards high pedigree players who provide immediate high level production he's drafted joe burrow
08:53and mike evans who is a perennial thousand yard receiver he also has amari cooper and andrew
08:58thomas who are very high-end starters i don't think he rarely but i don't think it's me even his
09:03misses are rotational players rather than complete washouts coming at number two drabby drab t-shirt
09:11so you and i are either so bickle and cakes one or six you've got manzel on the board as
09:17an anchor
09:18i'm not very confident i'm sure i've more misses than manzel do you remember your worst pick no
09:23because you're saying a lot of these guys i go i thought i picked it like i know some of
09:26these guys
09:26i like do you remember your best pick i don't remember one what's interesting about this is that
09:33bickle always picks for the commanders right that's true so either adam peters should be calling
09:38bickle today to ask him who the commander should draft or bickle should never give advice ever
09:43again on who the commander should draft okay yeah i guess we'll see yeah i don't feel super confident
09:47neither do i i can't remember any of my guys yeah how about you throw out a couple of the
09:54names
09:54drafted and see if they remember if they picked the guy or not give it away well that'll give it
09:59away
09:59i'll give it away okay all right well we do know manzel was cakes 100 i know i drafted him
10:04yeah but
10:05he probably dropped yeah you must have some but you might have there's got to be some hits right
10:08i say we just go with the winner and then we can after we'll joan on more time for joan
10:14yes
10:15all right we're still going to one here we'd rather joan than praise i'm gonna be honest with you i
10:19have are you nervous are you guys nervous yeah i don't like to lose i don't like to be dead
10:23yeah but your reputation isn't being a fantasy gm i've actually like it's actually embarrassing
10:28if cakes is the worst i do think i'm a silly talent evaluator in certain things uh but i don't
10:34think i'd be a good gm i know that for a fact yeah i would panic pick i would i
10:38would just i would i
10:39know that i would not be good all right who comes in at the top all right they're labeling this
10:46junkie
10:47the all pro scout grade a plus jeez the undisputed king of the draft his hit rate is historic drafting
10:56foundational pieces that don't just meet expectations but exceed them wow the hall of
11:02fame path justin jefferson tristan warfs vita vea that's not me you liked vea cooper de john
11:09i remember you liking vea i did i think you like he drafts blue chips can't miss players and actually
11:15hits on jayden uh-huh i like the king i like the gene i think because of the donkey the
11:21king of the
11:21draft add it to his twitter bio eric bickle
11:27that's unbelievable
11:31i'm the draft king
11:36take pride take pride all right hold on who have i picked give me give me i want to
11:40i just gave it to you i don't remember any of your jayden this is some of your ones that
11:44i see
11:44this is an outrage i'm calling for a recount jayden daniels darnell wright cooper de john christian
11:50darrell saw who's very very good vita vea tristan works justin jefferson he had high picks
11:56i mean if you had jayden well jayden yeah but justin jefferson he drafted probably his ass
12:01yeah by the way why is why is he getting props for jayden jayden had one good year and a
12:06horrible year
12:07why is he getting props for that well he was an all pro or whatever he was yeah but you
12:11did say
12:11it's the big year for jayden what is a big year for him i don't understand that oh man look
12:15at the
12:15time it's 7 16 we have to get the raw stuff oh i gotta we gotta go through cakes in
12:19his list
12:20i want to revel in this a little bit all right this is what what are my biggest duds
12:24i don't know about darnell wright that was a couple years ago but i don't know how he's
12:28a decent he's a lineman he's kind of a he's above that he's above average he's nothing great yeah okay
12:36i you don't have any bust and you got some big time hits dude i got low self-esteem
12:42i always think i'm gonna finish last in all these cakes definitely didn't think he was
12:47gonna finish last i'm the draft buster they call cakes the what happened general manager
12:53great d plus oh yeah the cardinals want to fire him right now that's what i got in criminal
12:59procedure plus cakes has drafted some of this uh biggest bust in recent nfl history who's on the
13:06resume um that i see on the resume johnny manzel and jeff and jeff okuda those aren't great are some
13:15big time busts um golden michael pennix jr uh quiddy pay quiddy pay quiddy pay uh tua manzel
13:27dante fowler jr jonathan allen it's head sacks a few years ago laramie tunsel laramie tunsel's gonna
13:34go to the whole thing you guys it says the bright spots tunsel and jonathan allen okay i'll take
13:39i'll take whatever few bright spots this is such cakes cakes takes the guy everyone is talking about
13:46rather than the best player available which is a roster full of missed potential yeah wow so this
13:52spit out yeah unbelievable gemini's a silly joner yeah they're good at joning wow now my day's ruined
14:02i i feel like i remember though you took manzel just to shake up the draft like we've done those
14:06type
14:07of things i know but still you're just doing stick i'll defend him i liked manzel coming out i just
14:11didn't have that pick i guess i don't even think he liked manzel no i didn't but i just picked
14:15him
14:16because i thought he made sense for cleveland turns out i was wrong well i've been wrong basically all
14:21the time and i'll probably be wrong today just the king right draft king i'll give you props
14:28although i think you're getting you're getting a little too much props for jay
14:34talk about small sample size all right it's also having the second pick
14:39helps like i have the second pick today second pick every year i know what year what pick was
14:44justin jefferson for me i was it i can't believe i picked him i'll find out i have i i
14:50must have a
14:50tumor i have no recollection but don't you pick for the commanders every year yeah so you're like
14:56yeah but wherever they picked yeah but i just do the i do my little research and then i forget
15:00about
15:00it i don't remember the only one i really remember is i love jamis winston i thought he was gonna
15:07be
15:07the next peyton manning but i will say this this is one thing i pride myself on in life is
15:11have my
15:12own opinion that's i pride myself in life so i don't know i don't know the draft king all hail
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