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Does John Lynch really believe the 49ers have no "glaring needs?" Grant Cohn joins The Morning Roast to explain why that mindset is a problem. We discuss the importance of drafting offensive line depth, the value of the Tight End position in today's NFL, and why the Niners should be looking at Toledo safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren. Grant also shares some thoughts on Brandon Aiyuk's future and Jimmy Garoppolo's legacy in SF.
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00:00Sam Lumman here on the Morning Roast alongside Joe Shasky.
00:04And we are talking about the NFL draft here in this segment.
00:10And we got Grant Cohn who's going to be joining us in just a moment.
00:14Niners picking at 27th tomorrow.
00:17Before we get to Grant, though.
00:19He's the height of the industry.
00:21We record everything through a tin can.
00:25Grant or Patrick Wallace?
00:26How you doing is Patrick Wallace?
00:27Hey, what's up, Patrick Wallace?
00:29I know Grant Cohn isn't using a tin can.
00:32So why don't we just get to him right now?
00:34Grant Cohn joins us on the River Islands guest line.
00:38That's a sweet hat.
00:38Is that an Oakland Oaks hat?
00:40What is that?
00:42It's an Oaklandish hat.
00:43I rep Oakland stuff now that all the teams have left.
00:46It's not a conflict of interest anymore.
00:48Let me ask you this.
00:49We got Niners big draft.
00:51I mean, this is a huge draft.
00:52And you were in person the other day when John Lynch addressed everyone.
00:57And it was kind of a throwaway line.
00:58And I watched the whole 24-minute press conference on your YouTube channel, Grant Cohn's YouTube channel, best one out
01:04there for 49er content, other than 95-7 in the game.
01:09And there was like a line.
01:10He goes, yeah, we don't really have any glaring needs.
01:12And nobody really followed up.
01:15And I'm sitting there and I'm going, no glaring needs.
01:18You don't even have a left guard right now.
01:20No glaring needs.
01:21You don't have a slot wide receiver.
01:23No glaring needs.
01:24Like, you don't have an edge rusher.
01:26And I don't really love your safeties.
01:27Now, I agree with them.
01:29They're better than they think.
01:30But when he said no glaring needs, what did you think?
01:35And that he really believes it, which is kind of my problem with the culture of this team.
01:40It's like, dude, in your last game, you lost 41-6.
01:44You have a lot of glaring needs.
01:46But this team is still, like, hung up on the fact that they beat the Seahawks week one, as if
01:51that matters.
01:52I mean, I think this team really believes that they got healthy this offseason.
01:56They're going to stay healthy next year.
01:58And that'll be the difference, which is too bad.
02:00Because I feel like all other conscientious observers are looking at them as the third best team in their division.
02:06But, like, not far off.
02:08If they would just make a significant move.
02:11Like, we've been asking them to make since the trade deadline last year.
02:14If they would go trade for, like, Jonathan Greenard right now.
02:17Who's available?
02:18Say, yeah, this team could win the division.
02:19Win the Super Bowl.
02:20But right now, I don't think so.
02:22So let me ask you a question that I've been mulling over.
02:24And I do want to talk to the audience about this today.
02:27Let's take defense off the board.
02:28If I said to you the first two out of three picks or three out of four picks, you have
02:33to choose one of the two.
02:35Playmakers for Purdy or protection for Purdy.
02:39What are you siding with?
02:43Protection.
02:43Haven't we learned this lesson?
02:45Didn't we learn it with Andrew Luck?
02:46Aren't we seeing it with Joe Burrow?
02:47Like, you could have all the weapons in the world.
02:49But if the quarterback's on his back or if he's in the training room, it doesn't really matter.
02:54And with a great quarterback, which Purdy's being paid to be, as long as the guy has time, it shouldn't
02:59really matter if he has the greatest weapons in the world or adequate weapons.
03:04And I'd like to see what Purdy could do with actual time because the last two years, all I see
03:08him doing is spinning out of the pocket and holding the ball and trying to make plays.
03:13I mean, look what the Eagles have been able to do for Jalen Hurts.
03:16He just stands still in one spot and looks – I mean, he's won a Super Bowl.
03:20I'd like to see what Brock Purdy could do with some actual time.
03:22And if they don't give him time, he could miss another half a season like last year.
03:27You know, Grant Cohn joining us here on the River Islands Guest Line covers the 49ers Sports Illustrated.
03:32Check out his YouTube channel as well.
03:33Lots of Niners coverage there.
03:35Grant, I agree with you.
03:36I'd like to keep Brock Purdy upright.
03:37I think he's at his best when he is upright.
03:39That's not a hot take.
03:40And a big part of keeping him upright is going to be the presence of one Trent Williams.
03:45He's extended now, locked in for this year.
03:48You know, got guaranteed money for the next two years.
03:50We might have to go through this again next year.
03:53We'll cross that bridge if we get to it.
03:55But he always wins.
03:56With Trent extended now, what is the position that you feel like they need to prioritize this weekend going into
04:02the draft?
04:02Is it still left tackle?
04:04Does another position jump up to the top there?
04:06How do you view that one?
04:08They could absolutely use, like, a left guard who could start right away and then become a left tackle.
04:13They need a defensive end who could replace Bryce Huff and Mikel Williams, at least for the first half of
04:18the season,
04:19because he won't be out there.
04:20They really need a starting safety.
04:22Like, if they took a safety in round one, that would be a great pick.
04:28They need a punter.
04:29I mean, they need all kind of things.
04:31Look, what about tight end?
04:33You know, this thing that George Kittle's going to come back, he got hurt in the middle of January.
04:39We just watched Greenlaw get hurt at the beginning of February a couple years ago.
04:43We heard all offseason, hey, Devontree Campbell's just a stopgap.
04:46Greenlaw's going to be back.
04:48And he played, like, two quarters for them.
04:49Two quarters might even be generous.
04:51I think it was, like, a quarter and a half.
04:53I just don't think I can expect anything from George Kittle.
04:57Is tight end anywhere on this priority list, given how important it is for the run game and for their
05:03passing game?
05:05A hundred percent.
05:06If Kenyon Sadiq falls to them in round one, they absolutely could take him.
05:09And it seems like smart teams right now are hoarding tight ends because what defenses – let's look at the
05:14Seahawks' defense.
05:15They're the top defense in the league.
05:17What they do is they stay in nickel a hundred percent of the time.
05:20They don't want to get out of nickel.
05:22They don't want to play their base defense.
05:23So what does using three wide receivers help?
05:27I mean, you're playing into their hands.
05:28What you want to do is what the Rams do, is put as many tight ends on the field as
05:32possible and put the Seahawks in a bind.
05:35Like, do you really want to defend our three tight end formation from nickel?
05:38Because we're going to run the ball.
05:39And they're, like, the only team that can run on Seattle.
05:42The Niners can't run on Seattle.
05:44So whatever the Niners do, please don't draft a wide receiver in round one.
05:48You did that two years ago.
05:49Anyone you take at 27 isn't going to have a first-round grade.
05:52He's not going to play, or else you're going to bury Ricky Pearsall.
05:55Take anything but a wide receiver.
05:57Or if you're going to take a wide receiver, trade down.
05:58Well, I'm really open to a trade down.
06:01I just think that makes a lot of sense.
06:03I'm hoping, like, a Ty Simpson falls, you know, in the draft.
06:06And the Niners can advantageously jump on that and be able to recoup some stuff.
06:11You bring up tight end.
06:13It feels like, to me, the smartest teams in the league are realizing the money ball value.
06:18If you're paying on the high end $17 million a year for a top five tight end,
06:23that's way better than $35 million for a top flight, you know, wide receiver.
06:29It's just, it's such great value.
06:31I have no problem if they want to go out and reach for a tight end.
06:35But do you think that it's just Tonjes, Farrell, and they're going to wait for Kittle?
06:39Like, do you believe that?
06:43I think they like Tonjes as a number two tight end.
06:45I think they realized that Farrell was a big mistake.
06:47And I think, again, how honest and realistic are the Niners being with themselves when it comes to George Kittle?
06:53I don't think the Niners are that honest with themselves.
06:56And when it comes to George Kittle, I think they're telling themselves, man, this guy's Superman.
06:59He's going to come.
07:00Not only is he going to come back and make 100% recovery, he's going to be back ahead of
07:03schedule.
07:04Do you know how much pressure the Niners put on their players to come back ahead of schedule?
07:08Why is that something that's important to them?
07:10You're the most injured team in the league.
07:11Why don't you just follow the schedule and, like, let George Kittle make a full recovery?
07:16But they're going to be talking about him coming back week one as a mistake.
07:18Is Mac Jones getting dealt in the next two or three days?
07:22I don't think so.
07:23It sounds like there's not a big market for him because people have seen him without Kyle Shanahan.
07:27And I think the Niners really, really, really want him.
07:30I mean, they're not making much of an effort to protect Brock Purdy.
07:33He's gotten injured the last couple of years.
07:35He's thrown a lot of picks the last couple of years.
07:37And we know that Kyle Shanahan handpicked Mac Jones.
07:40He didn't handpick Brock Purdy.
07:41That was Brian Greasy and Steve Slowick.
07:45And Kyle benefited from that.
07:46But this was Kyle scouting.
07:49I want Mac.
07:50He got overturned for the Trey Lance thing.
07:52He finally got Mac back in the building.
07:54He sees him as a starting quarterback.
07:56I don't think he wants to trade him for anything less than a second-round pick, which he's not going
08:00to get.
08:01But Grant Cohn here joining us on the River Islands guest line here on the morning.
08:05Rose Cove's the Niners for Sports Illustrated.
08:06Check out his YouTube channel as well.
08:08Grant, again, they're at 27.
08:11John Lynch said it.
08:12You kind of mentioned here there don't seem to be a whole lot of first-round grades that this team
08:15seems to have.
08:17Are we looking at we're going to see this team trade back from 27, or do you think they're going
08:22to stay at 27?
08:24I think they want to trade back from 27, but I think the Seahawks want to trade back, and a
08:28lot of teams want to trade back.
08:29It's not a particularly strong draft.
08:31There's like 12 to 15 players with first-round grades.
08:34They may not be able to do so.
08:36And then the question is, if they have to pick at 27, what should they do?
08:40Should they take an offensive player?
08:42I mean, a lot of people expect them to take Caleb Lomu from Utah, an offensive lineman.
08:46That would be a good pick.
08:47He could play guard.
08:48He could play left tackle in the future.
08:50They could also go defense again.
08:52I mean, what are we really expecting from this defense?
08:54It wasn't good last year, and it was kind of held together by smoke and mirrors from Robert Sala, who's
08:59an elite defensive coach.
09:01Now he's gone.
09:01You bring in Raheem Morris, who's kind of like a mid-level defensive coach.
09:05I think they need a lot of help on defense.
09:07They don't have a second pass rusher.
09:08They don't have a safety that's any good.
09:10They could absolutely go defense in round one.
09:12Well, then on that note there, you already mentioned a couple of names.
09:14Kenyon, Sadiq with their Caleb Lomu, who I think he visited the team last week.
09:19Are there other names in this first round that, you know, I guess, how about this?
09:22What's the best name that you're hoping could fall in that first round that would compel the Niners to take
09:28them at 27?
09:30Okay, I got a name for you.
09:32I haven't seen this guy mocked to the 49ers much, but in the last few days, I've seen reports that
09:36he could fall out of round one.
09:38Emmanuel McNeil Warren, the safety from Toledo.
09:42He's a playmaker.
09:43He had like five picks in college, nine forced fumbles.
09:45He's 6'4".
09:46He's a little bit like Nick Emanwari.
09:48And I think you're seeing where defenses are going.
09:50You want as many safeties on the field as possible.
09:52You want a safety at outside linebacker.
09:54You want a safety.
09:55I mean, the Seahawks have three safeties on the field at all times, and Nick Emanwari is probably their best
10:01player or one of them.
10:02I think that would be a great pick for the 49ers.
10:04Much better than reaching for, as long as they don't reach.
10:08Nick Emanwari seems to be falling.
10:10Take advantage.
10:10Don't take some guy who's projected to be picked 58th.
10:13Don't do the Nick Martin thing like you did last year where you took a guy who's projected to be
10:17in round five and you take him in round three.
10:19That's how the Niners get in trouble.
10:21Their track record drafting in round one is terrible.
10:24Just don't reach.
10:24Just take the best player available.
10:26You have a million needs despite what John Lynch says.
10:29If I take away the names, take away the names, what can the Niners do to knock you out of
10:35your seat in a good way after a couple of days of the draft?
10:41Trade out a round one.
10:43Get that third round pick back.
10:46Address, safety, edge rusher, guard, tight end.
10:51If they can get those four positions knocked out with their first four picks, it's a good draft.
10:56If they trade down at a round one, it's a good draft.
10:58If they stay at 27 and reach like they did in 2024, you're in trouble.
11:04They're in the same position they were in two years ago when they took Ricky Pearsall.
11:07You know you're not taking a first round pick there.
11:10And you know you're putting pressure on this guy to be someone he's not.
11:13So are you going to do that again?
11:14They might have to.
11:16Ricky Pearsall is very interesting.
11:17Is he on this team after this weekend?
11:22I think so.
11:24I think I get the feeling that like John Lynch is down on him because he didn't come back as
11:29quickly as possible from a PCL injury.
11:31And that's the culture.
11:32But I think Kyle Shanahan isn't out yet.
11:34I get the feeling Kyle handpicked him and Kyle doesn't like being wrong.
11:38And I don't think he wants to admit defeat on this one just yet.
11:41So that if they're going to take a wide receiver in round one, which they could, it's Kyle's team, they
11:47could take Casey Concepcion, but he's sort of like a Ricky Pearsall replacement.
11:51They both would play Z.
11:52They both have the same skill set.
11:54I think if they're going to take a wide receiver, it would be more someone who would complement Ricky Pearsall,
11:58someone big, someone like Jawan Jennings, someone like Denzel Boston from Washington.
12:02I like that.
12:03Yeah, I've looked at Boston.
12:04I've looked at Charles Brasla as a Tennessee as another option there.
12:07But the question I got you for you here, Grant, is we were talking about John Lynch a lot yesterday.
12:11Again, obviously, he kind of made some waves when he said his no glaring holes comment.
12:16But I feel like this is a draft where John Lynch kind of needs to hit a major home run
12:21here.
12:21The last three, four drafts has been a lot to be desired.
12:25Obviously, they did stumble upon Brock Purdy.
12:27They found some other guys that can contribute like D winners or Alfred Collins, Upton Stout.
12:31Find players who will, you know, they could start on your on your defense, but they're not, I think, wowing
12:37you.
12:38Is this in a situation where John Lynch kind of has to hit a home run in this draft in
12:42the same way that the Seahawks did last year or that the the Eagles did two years ago?
12:49Yeah, I mean, if the Niners are going to win the Super Bowl this year, he needs to find an
12:53instant contributor or a few who are like great players.
12:58He doesn't want to draft. He doesn't want to sign Joey Bosa. Fine.
13:01Well, whichever edge rusher you sign has to give you like 12 sacks this year.
13:05And that's minimum. And if he doesn't do that, you start looking at this whole organization.
13:10Like, where are you guys going to be in a couple of years?
13:13John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, Trent Williams, Brock Purdy.
13:15It seems like the organization has given them through 2027.
13:19If you look at the contracts from Kyle to John to Trent, he just got extended to 2027.
13:24It feels like they think their window is still open and will be open for like two more seasons.
13:30If they don't get it done by then, you wonder if they're going to hit like a hard reset on
13:34the whole operation.
13:35And a lot of these guys will be gone, including Lynch.
13:38Well, that kind of leaves me to kind of where I was kind of thinking here, because the last three
13:41years I mentioned, it's just been really, really rough here.
13:44And we were having the conversation yesterday with my Shasky and myself, where it's just, you know, they're not in
13:50like a danger zone yet.
13:52But it feels like these last three drafts, like those are the kind of drafts you have where it kind
13:57of sets up a two or three year poor stretch.
14:00Because credit to Lynch, got off to a great start when it came to draft.
14:03And got a lot of great playmakers in Fred Warner, George Kittle, Nick Bosa and whatnot.
14:07But it feels like right now, the way they've been drafting the last couple of years, they're sliding into semi
14:13-dangerous territory here.
14:15And when their veteran players stop producing the next wave, I just I don't see anybody in this next wave
14:20of young players that's ready to step up and kind of fill in with some of these other bigger positions
14:26they've hit on in the past.
14:28They're the Warriors without the titles.
14:30I mean, both the Warriors and the Niners built their cores through the draft and then stopped drafting well for
14:36a long period of time.
14:37And now you have this team that's old and not good enough.
14:40And the team you're trying to take down or the teams you're trying to take down are significantly younger than
14:44you.
14:44Like the Seahawks are one of the youngest teams in the league.
14:46You're the oldest team or one of the oldest teams in the league.
14:48How are you catching them?
14:50Through the draft.
14:51And you're the guy picking for you is John Lynch.
14:54And they got John Schneider.
14:56I mean, you're going to lose.
14:57So the Niners have to prove that they can win this way with Brock Purdy making a bajillion dollars a
15:02year and Nick Bosa and Trent Williams.
15:04And if it doesn't work the next two years, again, I wouldn't be surprised if they do hit a hard
15:08reset.
15:08John and Kyle aren't going to be here forever without a ring.
15:11They get two.
15:11They got two more years.
15:12So I want to dig into something.
15:14You know, your father was obviously there with Bill Walsh.
15:16And I've read multiple of his books.
15:18I've heard him talk about this over and over again.
15:20I think there are some similarities working for Joe Lacop for Steve Kerr as there are Bill Walsh working for
15:27Eddie DiBartolo.
15:28And the way that a lot of people now view it is, oh, well, Bill Walsh stepped down.
15:33And your father's always said they took the team away from him.
15:36And that's the way Bill Walsh had always felt.
15:39And I'm looking at what's going on with Steve Kerr.
15:43And I'll ask you about Shanahan and Kerr in a second.
15:45Do you see the similarities between the kind of end of Bill Walsh and the 49ers and where Steve Kerr
15:53is at?
15:53I know that the players and the team isn't nearly as good as the team he had in 88 that
15:59he ended up walking away from or ripped away from.
16:02But I see a lot of similarities.
16:05I see the similarities between Kerr and Walsh.
16:08I see the similarities between Lacop and Eddie DiBartolo.
16:11And I think as someone covering the Niners who grew up, like, rooting for them during the Eddie years, that's
16:16why I'm so frustrated with the Yorks.
16:18It's like, hold on, man.
16:19Eddie wouldn't put up with this.
16:20Eddie would have fired Kyle Shanahan years ago, whether he was right or not.
16:23And that's what I admire about Joe Lacop.
16:25I mean, he might be overly, you know, intrusive in ways that he shouldn't be.
16:30But he really, really, really wants to win and has won.
16:34You couldn't question that with Eddie DiBartolo.
16:35You can question that with Jed York.
16:37Are you just happy to be in the mix?
16:38Like, do you just want to be a glorified version of the Cowboys?
16:42Because it kind of seems like it.
16:43I wonder if, I mean, I don't really think that about Joe Lacop.
16:46If Lacop were to buy the Niners, I feel like Niner fans would be pretty happy.
16:50I mean, yeah, again, he might be kind of intrusive, but you feel like they would spend whatever it takes.
16:54And their only goal would be winning the Super Bowl.
16:57Not like, let's also buy a soccer team and improve our portfolio and make a lot of money.
17:01And that'll be a win.
17:02So now I get to Shanahan and Kerr.
17:04And it's interesting, like, Steve Kerr's won four championships.
17:08And I field calls all day and text messages all day that people, not everyone, I don't
17:13want to make it out like all Warriors fans, but there's a large segment of the fan base
17:16that acts like he doesn't know what he's doing.
17:18And then I look at Kyle Shanahan, and he's had some great years.
17:21He's never won the ultimate prize.
17:23Kerr, 12 years in, and people are ready with pitchforks to run him out of town.
17:27Kyle's in year 10.
17:28I'm still caping up for him.
17:30I like him a lot, but you would think he's the one with four championships.
17:34And I just, I find it interesting how the two of them are talked about in the Bay Area.
17:40What's your perspective on Steve Kerr and how he's spoken to and contrasted with Kyle Shanahan
17:46and how he's spoken about?
17:48It's true.
17:49People talk about, there's like revisionist history with Steve Kerr, right?
17:51Like he's a bum.
17:52He inherited Curry.
17:54He hasn't kept up with the times.
17:56He needs to go.
17:57So it's like, I don't know, man, he's a champion.
18:00And to me, what defines Steve Kerr is like in those moments, in the finals, he had the
18:06right adjustment.
18:07He made the right decision.
18:08Like the first one, he went to the death lineup.
18:10Was it four games in?
18:12And it just totally blew away the Cavaliers.
18:14When has Kyle ever made the right adjustment in a Super Bowl?
18:17This dude is constantly known for like making the wrong call.
18:20He always has a lead in the second half.
18:22He always abandons his run game in the third quarter.
18:24He's lost three Super Bowls the same way.
18:27So, I mean, he's a very good coach, but his legacy is defined by him making the wrong
18:33calls with the pressure on in the second half of the biggest games of his life, whereas
18:37Steve Kerr is the opposite.
18:38Yeah, Steve should get a little bit more respect.
18:41Are you surprised by how it's going down here at the end with the Warriors?
18:44Because you're a big Warrior fan.
18:45I know.
18:46I see you tweeting about them.
18:48Like this season has been straight out of the drama page.
18:53Well, is it that they don't want him anymore or is that he might want to leave?
18:56Like, would you want to coach his team?
18:58It feels like a team that's going nowhere and stuck in the past that has a good game
19:02once a week, maybe once every other week.
19:04It's funny that you say that because a lot of people are like, how could he leave Steph
19:07Curry?
19:07And I'm like, well, hold up.
19:08Like my dad, well, you know, when he was in his 60s, his whole life changed.
19:13His prerogative, his kids started having kids.
19:15And like, it's a wear and tear on you to coach a team under this type of scrutiny every
19:21single day.
19:22Everyone thinks like, hey, coaching Steph's the easiest thing.
19:24Well, yeah, it's great when you're winning.
19:25But when you're not winning, you're not looking at any of the negatives that you have to kind
19:30of go through on the day to day.
19:33Yeah.
19:33And they're not going to win the title next year.
19:35And they know it.
19:36And he knows it.
19:37And it's like, there's no real path to build a team.
19:39They're not going to get Giannis.
19:41They're not going to get the number one pick in the draft, most likely.
19:44So this is kind of like an extended Steph Curry goodbye tour.
19:48And that's fine.
19:50People will show up and pay money for it.
19:51But I could see Steve Kerr saying like, it's kind of a waste of my time at my age with
19:55the
19:55money I've made and the things I've accomplished.
19:57Let me go try to do something else.
19:58And I respect it.
19:58And frankly, I feel like Steph Curry should feel the same way, man.
20:01What are you doing here the last couple of years?
20:03Don't you want to win one more title?
20:05Or are you just cool to like have people give you a standing ovation at Chase?
20:10Speaking of guys whose tenure is coming to an end, Brandon Ayuk.
20:13Oh, my God.
20:14Is he getting traded before the draft, during the draft?
20:18Like, are they just going to let him walk for nothing?
20:20What the hell is going on with the Niners and Brandon Ayuk, Grant?
20:25It just feels like the Niners are begging Adam Peters in Washington to give him something.
20:30It's like, look, Adam, man, we hired you when no one else would.
20:33We set you up in Washington.
20:35If they fire you, we'll take you back, man.
20:37Come on, man.
20:38We gave you a six for Bryan Robertson, Jr., man.
20:40Come on, man.
20:42Please give us a seventh, please.
20:44And they're like, man, why would we want that contract?
20:46Then we just have to cut him.
20:48Like, no, you're going to cut him in a week.
20:50We'll wait.
20:51I'd be so disappointed in Adam Peters if he gave the Niners a homie hookup.
20:54But I don't think he will.
20:56I saw Kyle Shanahan and his wife having dinner with Adam Peters and his wife at the owners' meetings.
21:01I feel I can only imagine what they were talking about.
21:03But it was probably Kyle being like, come on, man, please, please, please, please, please.
21:07But it's not going to happen.
21:08I'm so done with the Ayuk thing.
21:11Just, God, let's just pilot this thing and let's keep it moving.
21:14Grant, last one for you here.
21:16One of your all-time favorites might be retiring soon, Jimmy Garoppolo.
21:19Oh, my God, Jimmy G.
21:21Will you be at the Jimmy Garoppolo ceremonial retirement day so Jimmy can retire as a 49er?
21:27I want to ask him a serious question.
21:28No, no.
21:28Like, honestly, take a step back.
21:31How should Niner fans view Jimmy Garoppolo?
21:37Now that the dust has settled a little and we're removed from the emotion.
21:41He was a good Niner.
21:43Oh, he's a good Niner.
21:46Why is he paying you to say that?
21:48No, he had a couple good years.
21:49If they hadn't traded for him in 2017 and they just tanked and gone 1-15, they could have drafted
21:55Josh Allen the next year.
21:56It was a waste of time and money.
21:58They didn't really know him.
22:00They liked the way he threw a football.
22:01He had a great release, quick release.
22:03But they brought him into the fold.
22:05He had five good games.
22:06They gave him all this money and realized, oh, I think he doesn't love football that much.
22:10Oh, he won't call us back.
22:11He loves other things.
22:12Like, oh, you didn't know that?
22:14And then now it's playing out right now.
22:15He could go be the starting quarterback of the Cardinals.
22:17But it's like, I don't want to do that.
22:20Like, I might lose.
22:21I might get hit.
22:22That might not be fun.
22:23I have $150 million.
22:25I could just go be handsome and be on The Bachelor or something, which is fine.
22:29Rough life.
22:29But, like, they really gave this dude generational wealth, and he was only lukewarm on football.
22:34And the Patriots knew it.
22:35And that's their fault.
22:36So that's, I think, his legacy.
22:37What's crazy is he could have won Super Bowl MVP.
22:41No, I'm dead serious.
22:42Three quarters into the game, I go, I think the MVP might be Jimmy.
22:46Oh, what would that have been?
22:47He was closer to it than Brock was.
22:49Yes.
22:50Grant, let's be real, though.
22:51We all know that at the end of that season, Kyle was going to go out and sign Kirk Cousins.
22:54We all know that that was the plan.
22:56Oh, yeah.
22:56They weren't going to get Josh Allen's team.
22:57And if they did draft Josh Allen, they probably would have buried him behind C.J.
23:01Bethard.
23:02I don't know.
23:03Or Kirk Cousins, even.
23:04Who knows?
23:05Grant, stop it.
23:06Thank you so much for joining us this morning, man.
23:08Really appreciate it.
23:09Thanks for having me.
23:10I love you, bro.
23:11Have a good one.
23:12Love you, too, man.
23:13That was Grant Cohen joining us on the River Islands guest line to talk about the 49er draft.
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