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The Sports Junkies debate if the Washington Commanders should trade up in the NFL Draft.
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00:00On Thursday night at the draft, when we're on our brewing, how many of the new jerseys
00:04do you think we will see?
00:07You'll see a decent number.
00:08You think?
00:09I think you'll see a decent number.
00:10I hope so.
00:10I was wondering, will I be ridiculed if I wear my last year's jersey of Jaden?
00:15No, you'll be fine.
00:16You'll be good.
00:17It feels like it's not cool anymore.
00:19You're fine.
00:19You got a vintage Jaden Daniels jersey.
00:21It's vintage?
00:22All right.
00:22Yeah, you're good.
00:23All right.
00:23You're good to go.
00:24God, I feel so behind the times.
00:26I think you're good.
00:27My wife got me some sort of commander's hoodie.
00:30I can't remember what it was for recently, so I guess I can whip that out.
00:34I have to say, I know we're going to talk about Chris Sims here, but just get back to the
00:38jersey reel for a second.
00:39Maybe it's just because I have it.
00:41I kind of like, I'm the only person in the country, apparently.
00:44I kind of like the black one more than, the last black one more than this black one.
00:49You like the previous battle blacks instead of the hail razor, I believe is what they're
00:53called.
00:53I know.
00:53It seems like, I'm not doing a bit.
00:56And maybe it's just because I have it.
00:57But you like the newer helmet.
00:59Yes.
01:00I mean, you're not wearing the helmet.
01:01The jerseys, I don't know.
01:02How much did they change on the black jersey?
01:05The black jersey looks kind of plain to me.
01:07I thought the other one looked kind of cool.
01:09But I know people don't like it because it said commanders, which of course, I don't
01:12like the name.
01:13But I actually don't mind that black.
01:15I think you're fine wearing that black jersey.
01:17All right.
01:17All right.
01:17I think there's some nuance, and most people won't even pick up the nuance, the difference
01:21between last year's black jersey and this black jersey.
01:23The helmet, way different.
01:25The uniform nerds are going to realize it.
01:27I said the uniform nerd, sure.
01:28But I think there's nuance that your average Joe won't necessarily notice that.
01:32No, I think you know right away.
01:34Will you wear it on Thursday?
01:35If I remember, yeah.
01:36I want to.
01:37I know I've got to work out my daughter before.
01:38I'm heading straight from a workout.
01:40But if I throw it in my car, I will.
01:43Put that note in your phone.
01:44All right.
01:45So what is Chris Sims saying about the commanders?
01:47What's his prediction?
01:48I'm going to give you the top of his draft board.
01:51He, of course, has Fernando Mendoza going one to the Raiders.
01:55Everybody assumes that's going to happen.
01:57Right.
01:57He's got Arbel Reese from Ohio State being the first Buckeye off the board at number two
02:01to the Jets.
02:02He's got Arizona taking Jeremiah Love at number three.
02:06There's been buzz.
02:07A ton of buzz about that.
02:08A lot of that.
02:09Because it seemed like he was locked in for the Titans at the number four pick.
02:12But it seems like, I mean, I saw yesterday on Twitter, like, some prominent voice in
02:17the Arizona room is lobbying for Jeremiah Love.
02:19I don't know if that's the owner.
02:20I don't know if it's GM.
02:21A lot of the mock guys, somebody's telling them somewhere that love to Arizona is a very
02:28viable option.
02:29A lot of mock guys are putting that out there.
02:32So Chris Sims' mock has love going three to the Cardinals.
02:37At four, the Titans take David Bailey, the edge rusher, out of Texas Tech.
02:43Yeah.
02:44He had 14 and a half sacks last year after getting 14 and a half sacks the previous three
02:48years at Stanford.
02:49Love that production.
02:50Yeah.
02:51I mean, whew.
02:52Now here's where the curveball comes in from Chris Sims.
02:55He has the Commanders trading up two spots with their division rival, the New York Giants,
03:02who currently hold the number five spot.
03:04It's just, on the sheer face of it, seems insane.
03:06And selecting.
03:07Not if you want your guy.
03:09Carnell Tate.
03:10They don't want him that bad.
03:11They don't care that much.
03:12He ain't that special.
03:14They're not going to do it.
03:15You're not going to trade with the division rival to move up two spots, especially when
03:18the division rival is linked to Tyson.
03:21With Shane going out to dinner with him.
03:23Yeah.
03:23Working him out.
03:24Everybody's saying how he's their top target.
03:26It just makes no sense.
03:28Right.
03:28They could probably get Tyson at 10, because that's the second pick they have in the top
03:3210.
03:33You would figure the Giants take some sort of defender, maybe Sonny Stiles at number five.
03:38But couldn't the Commanders get Tate and stay where they are?
03:42You would think.
03:43If they don't get Tate, you could take Tyson.
03:45It seems like a rash move to trade up, especially with the division rival, to give them any sort
03:50of edge.
03:51I'm almost willing to bet a large amount of money that will not happen.
03:55It's just one of the more implausible trade options I've seen.
03:59Well, look at the title of the page.
04:03Yeah.
04:04Chris Sims releases insane mock draft.
04:06Predicting six first round trades.
04:08Yeah.
04:08But what if you love Tate?
04:11Yeah.
04:11You want to fill that spot at receiver.
04:13You value Tate more than the other receivers.
04:17Yeah.
04:17And the Browns, who select at six, will also want Tate.
04:21So you jump ahead of them to five to get your guy.
04:25I reject the premise.
04:26I don't think they're sold that much on any of these guys.
04:32I think they'd be happy with five or six of them.
04:34Man, I can't wait.
04:35I just don't think they're that sold on them.
04:37We talked at length.
04:38Would you be okay with them trading up for anybody?
04:41Be hard-pressed.
04:42What if they traded up for Jeremiah Love?
04:45I know that would tantalize you.
04:50I'd be cool with Love falling into your lap at seven.
04:52I don't know if I want to move up three or four spots to pick him.
04:56I mean, listen, I'm sure I'd support it the next day, but it would be hard for me to wrap
05:00my head around it.
05:01I just don't see it as a viable possibility.
05:03You don't want to give up next year's number one to go up that far to get Love.
05:06I just think there's so many impactful potential players.
05:09It's like, we're almost, it's a can't miss.
05:13Now, these guys might miss, but on paper, I think we're going to get an impactful player
05:17at seven.
05:18I agree.
05:18Just stay there.
05:19We talked at length yesterday about trading down.
05:21Yeah, I think it's much more plausible that they trade down two or three spots than trading
05:26up into the top five.
05:27They're not a candidate to trade up.
05:29And they're definitely not going to trade up with their rivals.
05:32What are you going to offer to move up two or three spots?
05:35I mean, maybe it could give...
05:36You don't have a second-round pick.
05:37You're going to offer a future second or third to move up?
05:40Why wouldn't you trade with the rival?
05:42They traded with the rival last season.
05:43It just doesn't happen as often.
05:45It's something that doesn't happen as often.
05:47Does it happen?
05:48Sure.
05:48I mean, they made a trade with the Eagles.
05:50It just doesn't happen that often.
05:52It doesn't happen that often in the top seven.
05:55Now, in this mock, in between where they have the commanders picking and the Giants swapping,
06:00this is the name that's been gaining buzz for the Browns.
06:03Offensive tackle Monroe Freeling.
06:05Good.
06:05Out of Georgia.
06:06Good.
06:07Take him.
06:07That's great.
06:08Like him leapfrogging Malagoa and Spencer Feneau.
06:12Those are the two names you've seen offensive tackle-wise, like falling in the top 10 or 12.
06:17But Freeling's name has shot into the top 10 in a lot of these mock drafts.
06:23As a Skins fan, we want as many tackles to go as possible before us at seven.
06:31That just gives us another guy that we make sure we're getting our highest-ranked guy.
06:37So, in Sims' mock, he has the Giants.
06:40So, in Sims' mock, he has the Giants.
06:40Then at seven, the commander's initial slot taking Sonny Stiles.
06:44So, they get their guy.
06:46They trade down a couple spots, get more draft capital from a division rival.
06:51I mean, that's a huge win for the Giants.
06:54I really want Stiles to be available there, and I want to see what they're going to do.
06:58Right.
06:58I'm totally intrigued by it because I know, obviously, everybody in the world knows how
07:02much they value athleticism, but I also know that they value the tape, too.
07:07And I'm not sure that the tape matches exactly the athleticism.
07:10I'm just very curious to see what they do there.
07:12Well, also, you keep hearing rumblings that Stiles is Dan Quinn's guy.
07:18You've seen that.
07:18I've heard that, too.
07:19That is Dan Quinn's guy.
07:20But you think that that's true?
07:22Is Dan Quinn telling everybody, that's my guy?
07:25I mean, I would...
07:26I'm guessing they do like him a lot.
07:28I'm telling you, I have question marks about Stiles.
07:30That's what I want to see.
07:31But you're only basing that off the stats.
07:34No.
07:34Also, just the body type, it just doesn't look normal to me.
07:40He looks like he should be in the NBA.
07:42Like, for a linebacker, it just doesn't...
07:446'5", can run.
07:45I know, he has...
07:46But it's like, for receivers, they can do all the things, but they can't catch,
07:50or they can't go over the middle.
07:51They don't have the toughness or whatever.
07:52I don't know.
07:53He's got a great body.
07:54I'm not saying he doesn't, but it doesn't look like a linebacker's body.
07:56He's got great genetics.
07:57He does.
07:58Yeah.
08:00But I have questions about...
08:01I would love to see them...
08:03I want to see him available, and I want to see what they do.
08:05Because I'm not convinced they would take him.
08:08It seems like there's also buzz on Stiles going to Dallas.
08:11If Dallas can somehow move into the top 7 or 8, because they hold picks 12 and 20,
08:18so the buzz is that they move up the board by packaging, I don't know, both 12 and 20
08:24to move up that amount, or 12 and maybe one of their 2nd or 3rd round picks.
08:30Like, expect Dallas to be a mover on...
08:33Yeah, a lot of people expect them, the Jets potentially, there are 3 or 4 teams that people
08:38are suggesting.
08:38If anybody's going to move up, Dallas, Jets, there are 3 or 4 that will do it.
08:41Gosh, you know, no one's talking about Bain.
08:44No one's talking about Bain.
08:45They're just not talking about him.
08:47He's in the 2nd tier.
08:48But I mean, if you look at the Mocs, I don't know where Chris Simms had it.
08:52I see him selected 8 a lot.
08:53Simms has him going 9 to the Chiefs.
08:55It's weird because...
08:56So most Mocs have him in the top 10 to 12.
08:58Right.
08:58If not, you know, 13-ish.
09:00But, man, it's just like, no one's talking about it.
09:02They're talking about Stiles.
09:03Before the measurements, he was in the top 3.
09:04Bayley and Reese and all these...
09:05Before the arm stuff, he was in the top 3.
09:07Yeah.
09:08You know?
09:08Arm and car stuff.
09:10The car stuff.
09:10Yeah, the car stuff was...
09:11It's been over the last couple days.
09:14But I think even before then, he was down in that 2nd tier.
09:17The arm thing really...
09:19And to me, that's the...
09:20I actually think it's one of the dumbest things in history.
09:22By the way, what does Chris Simms have the Giants doing at 10 and then with the 7th pick?
09:28I mentioned they took Sonny Stiles with the 7th pick.
09:32Stiles and then would they have a 10?
09:33And Jordan Tyson, the wideout from Arizona State, going 10 overall.
09:36Maybe a nice haul for the Giants.
09:37I heard a guy yesterday on with JPMB Mitch and he's convinced Tyson's going to go 5 to the Giants.
09:44The Giants are going to mess around.
09:45They want him and they're going to take him at 5.
09:48Well, I mean, if the commanders really love Carnell Tate, which is what Peter Schrager says,
09:52then they would love for Jordan Tyson to go 5.
09:54Peter Schrager, by the way, is now backing off...
09:56Not if the Browns snatch Tate at 6.
10:00Well, then you have to go to a backup plan.
10:02Then you have to go to whoever the next best player on your board is.
10:05Then you say, Caleb Downs, come on down.
10:08You're the newest member of the commanders.
10:10Right.
10:10I would guess that would probably be the case.
10:12But like you said, at 7, they're going to get a stud.
10:15They're going to get a stud if they stay.
10:17If they move, I guess it's good.
10:18I mean, I even think...
10:19I know you're not high on Stiles anymore.
10:21I think if they get Stiles at 7, they're getting a stud.
10:23I'll embrace it.
10:24And I'll root for them.
10:25And the one nice thing I like about Stiles beyond the absurd athleticism
10:29is he's another one, like Downs, who they say is just like really cerebral,
10:34smart guy, gets it.
10:35So I love that.
10:36I mean, he grew up in the football house.
10:38Great pedigree.
10:38His brother's a stud.
10:39His dad was a stud.
10:40I just don't think he's going to make it down into that 7 territory at this point.
10:45I think he's going to be gone like by 5 at the latest.
10:48I wish that he had the all-world production that matched the all-world combine.
10:54That's the only thing.
10:55You look at the guys, like the fastest guys.
10:57We've talked about it before, like a receiver.
11:00None of them have done anything.
11:03Yeah, but like I said yesterday, if he would have put up the numbers that he did his junior year
11:09and his senior year, you'd be all about it.
11:10It would be different.
11:11Yeah, it would match it.
11:12Do you want your last 10 No. 7 picks in the NFL draft?
11:17Sure.
11:18Ooh, I can pull that up, too.
11:20I like that.
11:212016 DeForest Buckner.
11:23Offensive end.
11:24Really good player.
11:25Mike Williams, wide receiver.
11:28There's so many Mike Williams receivers, I get confused.
11:31Not great.
11:31Yeah.
11:32Josh Allen, quarterback.
11:33Yeah, that's a massive hit.
11:35Josh Allen, linebacker.
11:36Hit.
11:38Derek Brown, defensive tackle.
11:40Maybe one of the better defensive tackles in the game.
11:42Penny Sewell, tackle.
11:44Stud.
11:45Evan Neal, tackle.
11:46Nah.
11:48Issues.
11:49Massive bus.
11:50Yeah.
11:50Tyree Wilson, defensive end.
11:52Oh, I think he's a huge bus so far.
11:54Chasey Latham, tackle.
11:56I think he's been decent.
11:57Hasn't he moved around a little bit?
11:58Yeah, decent, I would say.
11:59And then last year, Armand Membu.
12:03He's just a big offensive lineman for the Jets.
12:05I think he's pretty good.
12:06The main lead tackles are going seven.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Well, that's not going to happen this year.
12:10But I think on the whole, more good players than not, which you would expect that high
12:15up in the draft.
12:17Isn't that funny?
12:18I'm convinced they're going to get a very good player.
12:20Isn't that funny?
12:20What are the odds that Josh Allen goes the same pick in back-to-back years?
12:25It's weird.
12:26It's weirdness.
12:27Other great number seven picks include Adrian Peterson, Champ Bailey, Eddie George.
12:36We were talking about Hall of Famers, those guys.
12:38But also busts like Mike Mamula.
12:40Yeah, there's a bunch of those thrown in.
12:43All right, let's get the listeners involved when we come back.
12:45Would you be happy if the commanders traded up out of seven like Chris Sims has happening
12:51in his mock?
12:52He's got the commanders doing business with their division rival, the Giants, who are
12:57sitting at number five.
12:58They also have the number ten pick.
12:59We're going to get fired up here.
13:00We're just, what, 48 hours away or so?
13:02Roughly.
13:02You want this music?
13:04Yeah, I just want to hear that.
13:05We'll get fired up for the draft.
13:06Or do you want the draft music?
13:08Do you have draft music?
13:08Do-da-ding, do-da-ding.
13:09That would be Valdez.
13:10Valdez can play draft music.
13:11You can have that coming back.
13:12800-636-1067.
13:14Would you be happy if the commanders moved up from seven?
13:18Most people have them moving down from seven.
13:20Would you be happy if they moved into the top five?
13:23800-636-1067 is the number.
13:26We'll take your calls on that next.
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