Pino Rinaldi ripercorre il caso di Chiara Poggi, la giovane trovata senza vita nella sua casa di Garlasco il 13 agosto 2007. A distanza di anni dalla condanna di Alberto Stasi, nuove richieste di riapertura delle indagini riaccendono i riflettori su uno dei delitti più discussi d'Italia. Tra interrogativi ancora aperti e nuove ipotesi, Rinaldi analizza le ombre e i misteri che continuano ad avvolgere l'omicidio di Garlasco.
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00:00Good evening and welcome to this special edition of Detective, Garlasco special, the Garlasco crime.
00:09Two days ago, a piece of news broke that rocked the Italian legal system and even our schedule.
00:18We're here in this office to discuss this matter. We couldn't help but talk about it.
00:25There's a new suspect. Is he the murderer or not? We'll see about that later.
00:31This person was 19 years old at the time of the events and his name was Andrea Sempio.
00:40I'll now let you hear his words, commenting on the very fact that he was investigated. Let's hear them.
00:49I saw my face pass by and I wrote like new suspect Andrea Sempio, so I actually discovered it by seeing
00:55television.
00:57These words seem to have been recorded in recent days.
01:02In reality, they were registered, mind you, eight years ago. Because eight years ago Andrea Sempio was registered in the register of
01:14investigated and then after three months he saw his case closed.
01:19Today he's under investigation again. Andrea Sempio seems like the protagonist of a movie, I don't know if you remember it,
01:27It's Groundhog Day where the protagonist always lived the same day.
01:35It's a twist of fate, a cruel game of life that is being played out for Andrea Sempio himself.
01:44What we can say is that during these very days, through his lawyer,
01:49Andrea Sempio describes himself as stunned and shocked, he is having difficulty reacting to this thing, he has even asked for holidays.
02:00But he wanted one thing to be known: he said that he had nothing to do with this story.
02:07Is that so? Should we believe his words?
02:11Very shortly, after this short break, we will try to understand what this intricate story is.
02:55Good evening and welcome to this special edition of Detective, Garlasco special, the Garlasco crime.
03:03We usually deal with closed, resolved, or even unsolved cases, and Chiara Poggi's was one of these.
03:14That was until two days ago.
03:16Then two days ago the bombshell news: there is a new suspect.
03:20Who is he? What influence does he have and will he have? Could he have it in this matter?
03:27Is he the murderer? Isn't he the murderer? But then why is Alberto Stasi in prison?
03:33Even if it comes out soon.
03:35It's a complicated story.
03:37Before we begin, let's try to go back to that day.
03:43It was August 13, 2007, when it all began.
03:58August 13, 2008?
03:59Yes, I was in the ambulance, traveling to Pasco, to Garlasco.
04:03In Garlasco?
04:04Yes.
04:05But what's happening?
04:06I think he killed someone, but I'm not sure, maybe he's alive.
04:10There's blood everywhere and she's lying on the floor.
04:14On the street or at home?
04:16No, at home.
04:17Yes, but is she a relative of his?
04:18No, she's my girlfriend.
04:20I can just say that my daughter is gone.
04:25Chiara Poggi, 26, was found with a smashed head this afternoon.
04:31Her boyfriend Alberto Stasi found her.
04:33He was interrogated for 17 hours by the Carabinieri.
04:36It's all right with me.
04:38To me it's all his ours.
04:40The door was not forced open, but inside, in the entrance hall, there are clearly visible signs of a struggle.
04:53The weapon, a blunt object that severely hit Chiara in the head, was not found.
05:00I told them everything I knew that could help them find out who did it.
05:07I just asked for the truth.
05:09Enough, enough.
05:12We heard the phone call that Alberto Stasi makes to the police and warns, 118, 113, 112, that something has happened
05:28terrible.
05:30In the end, however, Alberto Stasi would end up being convicted for that very crime.
05:39Lawyer Boccellari, how did Alberto Stasi enter, why did he enter in this manner?
05:48The first doubt arises when Stasi is stopped, we are about a month after the events, a month
05:59from the murder,
06:00for this alleged presence of blood on the bicycle pedals.
06:05He arrives immediately, the arrest is not validated, no precautionary measure is applied, why?
06:15Because it was already under discussion, even then, so we are already in 2007,
06:20that in fact the biological material found on the bicycle pedals was actually blood.
06:27So the first doubt already exists.
06:30The problem is that from that moment on, we continued to dig into Alberto Stasi's life.
06:39However, I must point out that this is my assessment of the whole story,
06:47because it has always been said that other positions have not been verified, or someone says instead that they have been verified
06:55all positions.
06:57Let's take one thing into account, that the time of Chiara Poggi's death was established by the coroner
07:04and so it remained, until 2009, fixed between 10.30 and 12.30, with, he then said, greater
07:14centering between 11 and 11.30.
07:16It is therefore clear that the investigators' activity was also aimed at verifying the individual positions in that band.
07:23hourly,
07:24which at that stage of the investigation was set from 10.30 to 12.30.
07:29In 2009, after an initial assessment, and then now there have been various other technical contributions,
07:38up to the sentence that condemns Stasi, which says that Chiara Poggi died between 9.12 and
07:439.35am.
07:44Clearly this is a stretch, because those were the only 23 minutes that Stasi actually had free, let's say, in his morning.
07:53However, just to say that the time of death was then moved back from the beginning.
07:59So let's say that Chiara probably died between 9.12 and, well, 10, 10 to one.
08:06fourth,
08:06However, it will never be possible to say precisely, without forcing things, but whoever went to check,
08:15after Stasi was already on trial, the positions of other subjects, because here too we moved on to the concept,
08:23In Garlasco on August 13th there were only Stasi and Chiara Poggi. That's not true, there weren't only Stasi
08:29and Chiara,
08:29there were many other people, whose positions, I repeat, were not therefore not examined,
08:35but they were also examined with reference to different time windows.
08:41Doctor Pisano, you were also a PM, today I am a judge, it seems to me that sometimes,
08:52in some cases, we focus on a person and then, from an a priori idea, we go looking for
09:04everyone
09:05those elements that can contribute to building an evidentiary process, at times,
09:14Or looking for proof. And often this proof, especially the real one, is never found.
09:21I ask you, was it like this for Stasi?
09:28Look, this is the risk that many magistrates run and can, well, run into,
09:38fall in love with a thesis. In the case of Alberto Stasi, it was the first judge who did not confirm the precautionary measure,
09:46he was later acquitted by the judge in the first instance and was also acquitted in the first appeal sentence.
09:55Only later do things change and, reading the reasons for the sentence, even with hindsight,
10:04It is clearly a circumstantial verdict.
10:06However, hypothetically, if today we adapt this sentence to another subject,
10:13the same conclusions that were reached with respect to Alberto Stasi
10:19they could easily be re-proposed against the new suspect,
10:25because the new suspect also knew the victim,
10:29the new suspect had also had some contact in the previous days,
10:35Strictly speaking, there would be no motive for one, just as there would be none for the other.
10:41However, a series of activities and investigations begin, and then a series of trials begin.
10:50Let's take a look at this epic story, this trial, with a video.
10:59linked directly to the life of Alberto Stasi.
11:06More than 40 days after the crime, there is a turning point in the Garlasco mystery.
11:12Alberto Stasi is under arrest.
11:16The evidence that incriminated Alberto Stasi was his girlfriend's DNA on the pedal of his bicycle.
11:22According to investigators, 23 minutes would have been enough for him to kill Chiara.
11:28Alberto Stasi has been acquitted of the charge of killing Chiara Poggi, his then girlfriend, in Garlasco.
11:36Insufficient evidence according to the judges.
11:38We will continue to seek the truth for our daughter because it is our duty.
11:46In the name of the Italian people, the Second Court of Appeal of Milan, having read Article 605 of the Code
11:53of criminal procedure,
11:55confirms the sentence pronounced by the group at the Vigevano court.
11:59Still have faith in justice?
12:01Always.
12:03The Court of Cassation annuls Alberto Stasi's acquittal for Chiara Poggi's family, and the hope of reaching the
12:10truth.
12:11Seven years after the murder of Chiara Poggi, a black women's bicycle crosses the corridor of the Palace of Justice.
12:17of Milan.
12:17Until a few days ago, this bicycle had remained undisturbed in the Stasi family's garage in Garlasco.
12:24The verdict for the Garlasco murder was recently handed down in Milan.
12:27A sentence of 16 years after 6 hours of deliberation, as decided by the Court.
12:34In the name of the Italian people, in reform of the sentence dated 17 December 2009 of the preliminary hearing judge of the
12:42Vigevano court,
12:43declares Alberto Stasi responsible for the crime attributed to him and excludes the contested aggravating circumstance and applies the reduction for the
12:51rite,
12:51sentences him to 16 years of imprisonment.
12:56The Court of Cassation definitively confirms the 16-year prison sentence.
13:07Valentina Magrin, what are the elements supporting Alberto Stasi's guilt?
13:19Why did he end up in jail?
13:21As you mentioned before, there is no actual proof from Reggio in this case.
13:26There are a series of clues that have been defined as clear, precise and consistent
13:33and all unanimous towards Alberto Stasi.
13:39We recalled earlier the time of the crime which is established from 9.12 to 9.35 according to the
13:50'accusa
13:51precisely because Chiara Poggi opens the door to her murderer while she is in her pajamas
13:58and the shutters will be found lowered, a clear sign that she was there that morning
14:04at that stage she had probably just gotten up and hadn't even had time to open the windows
14:10so he certainly knew his killer well.
14:14Then there is the blood in the pedals and then we remember the fact that in the second appeal a
14:23new appraisal
14:24on the shoes, on the traces of blood absent in this case from Alberto Stasi's shoes
14:31while it is established that whoever entered and discovered Chiara's body in that house
14:38where there was blood everywhere, of course he would have had to get his soles dirty.
14:43What does this mean? That if you change them, you throw them away?
14:45This probably means that when he calls, we first hear the 911 call.
14:51saying he discovered this body of his girlfriend
14:56in reality he probably didn't enter the house at that moment
15:00because he already knew what had happened inside that house.
15:05So if he, in short for justice and the murderer, when he kills him he gets dirty
15:10those shoes disappear and then he comes back.
15:13Then he shows up with others.
15:14In addition to this element, there would also be other elements, other clues that come, that enter the scene
15:23for example there is the soap dish.
15:26Of course, two prints of Alberto Stasi's ring finger were found in the soap dish
15:32and since the mat in that bathroom has traces of blood
15:38so the killer probably washed himself in that bathroom there
15:43and therefore it could have likely left those traces.
15:48If I'm not mistaken, that soap dish that was washed by the murderer then in the end only has
15:54the imprint of Alberto Stasi and not of all the other people in that house who should have used it.
16:04So there should be other footprints and other traces.
16:11We have submitted a report on that dispenser for review.
16:16which identifies 16 other fingerprints, although not attributed, plus soap encrustations.
16:24Furthermore, this thesis discounts the fact that no hemoglobin was found anywhere.
16:30neither in the sink, nor in the siphon, nor on the tap, nor on the soap dish itself
16:35in which instead there is mixed DNA from the victim's family members.
16:38So they should explain to me how Stasi could have washed away all the hemoglobin
16:45leaving soap scum on the dispenser, 16 other fingerprints that are on the dispenser that are not his
16:52because the real problem here is the toxic narrative that was created, which was then taken up again
16:59let's also say in sentence, in part, and pulls the blanket from one side and the other
17:05but in the end he doesn't take into account the evidence.
17:09The toxic narrative of each single element, because it is clear that if I say that on that dispenser
17:14there is only one or two prints of Alberto Stasi's ring finger, I'm saying and I'm inducing
17:20to believe that he then washed the dispenser, he put it back on the sink
17:26because he is the murderer and he had washed himself.
17:29But I'm not saying that there are 16 other fingerprints, I'm not saying that there are soap encrustations
17:34I'm not saying there's no blood.
17:38The ratio of DNA to hemoglobin is 1 to 10,000.
17:42If I don't find hemoglobin I can't say it's blood
17:48It will be something else, also because there was hair in the sink
17:52Speaking of numbers, in one of the many experiments of the process
17:57it was demonstrated that the possibility that Alberto did not trample on Chiara's blood
18:02was equal to 0.00038%
18:08And let's add it to it
18:090.0000
18:12Stasi has shed blood, he says so
18:16This news, let's go back to the toxic narrative
18:19How did he step on the blood?
18:20Of course he stepped on the blood
18:22It's clear that he somehow stepped on the blood
18:25The house was full of matic traces
18:27Why isn't it in the shoes?
18:28Because the blood was dry
18:29This is demonstrated by the first and second degree expert reports.
18:35They prove the fact that when you step on dried blood
18:40Don't leave fingerprints in the house
18:43Nor does the sole of your shoe receive blood.
18:48It's very simple
18:50What time did Alberto Stasi enter the house where Chiara Poggi's lifeless body is?
18:59At 1.50pm
19:00She was killed between 9.12 and 9.35 am
19:05It's August 13th
19:06The 13th of August were made, however, be careful, the data is not in question here
19:10The blood I want to say a few hours
19:12The blood, there are two expert reports, not independent consultancy
19:15Two reports that are identical on this point
19:18Which demonstrate that in all of those, or rather much less
19:21She tries
19:23I tried with my earlobe which bleeds a lot
19:27She pierces it
19:28Drops of blood fall on the ground
19:31In a few seconds the blood flows
19:33It's not like we were talking about matic pools of who knows what size
19:36We were talking about swiping
19:38The only bigger one was the one in front of the cellar door
19:44The difference in fact between the first appraisals and the appraisal which we then say established this
19:50It is that this last assessment was also carried out on the first two steps
19:54That in theory Alberto should have gone down to find the body
19:57And what percentage is there?
19:59But be careful
20:00It becomes even less likely that he didn't get his shoes dirty.
20:05Edi it seems to me 0.0002
20:07No, no, no, it's always, but he himself says he beat him up
20:09That is, the percentage of blood was definitely fresh, it was definitely still liquid
20:14Who says so?
20:15The experiments that have been done
20:17It's not true, they don't say that
20:18Our legal system says that the moment the Supreme Court has pronounced an irrevocable sentence
20:24These elements have been evaluated, perhaps even incorrectly.
20:28They can no longer be revalued
20:31But where Stasi's defense was very, very, very good.
20:38It was to introduce elements that were not thoroughly evaluated in the process
20:47And which can now be re-evaluated
20:49So nothing can be said about this.
20:51Much can be said instead about what the defense has called into question.
20:57The fingerprints on the dispenser
21:00Can I say something?
21:03That if today we are here again to talk about a story that was closed, that was resolved
21:09It's because there's this new development, this new suspect.
21:13From a legal point of view
21:16Also in light of what has emerged in the past
21:22That is, I read
21:26The judge of Pavia imposed the Halt, I am referring to 2017
21:32To these new hypotheses
21:35New at the time, that of the presence of Sempio's DNA
21:40Under Chiara Poggi's nails
21:43There is something the judge says that is significant
21:50If it is not shareable, but humanly understandable
21:53The intent to do everything to defend oneself from a very serious accusation
21:58This refers to your business, your family's.
22:00In short, it should be considered practically normal.
22:05In short, the mother, the father tries to defend the position
22:10He tries to prove his son's innocence
22:14Maybe by accusing someone else
22:16But in the end, I want to say
22:19Regarding the expertise that was brought at the time
22:23The investigating judge of Pavia wrote
22:25It is radically unreliable
22:28Technical consultancy on genetic material
22:30Offered by the Stasi defense
22:32In short, at the time everything was put aside
22:38It is considered useless and unreliable.
22:41Today, however, everything seems to have changed
22:44So, let's try to understand this aspect a little bit.
22:50What happened, Albina, regarding the previous assessments and analyses?
22:58So, why is Sempio being placed under surveillance?
23:04From the defense of Alberto Stasi
23:06Already in 2016
23:08Why is it noticeable that this boy
23:12Who was a friend of Chiara's brother
23:15Who was 19 years old at the time
23:17So smaller than Chiara
23:19He committed the crime in the days before
23:22Three strange phone calls
23:24Knowing full well that Poggi would not be found at home
23:27The brother, then his friend Marco
23:29Because he had left for the mountains with his parents
23:32He makes these three strange phone calls
23:35Which he justifies in an unclear way
23:39So much so that the magistrates immediately say
23:41This point should be explored further
23:46Because his explanation doesn't add up
23:48But they are very short phone calls.
23:52Very short but inexplicable
23:54Because the first time he says he got the wrong number
23:57The second time, the third, he says he tried to call Marco
24:02Why was he calling Chiara?
24:04And this is the real mystery
24:06Why was he calling Chiara?
24:08Unfortunately we only have the records
24:10We can't know what they said to each other.
24:12They are short phone calls
24:14So maybe he just wanted
24:17Make sure Chiara was at home
24:20At that moment
24:20He was planning to go to her
24:23We don't know
24:24However they are very strange
24:26In addition to phone calls
24:28What makes you suspicious?
24:30The fact that he showed
24:32But later on
24:34So after the first interrogation
24:36A receipt
24:37Which would be his alibi
24:39A receipt that proves
24:42That the day of Chiara Poggi's murder
24:44He at 10 something
24:46And 18
24:47It was in Vigevano
24:49It was in Vigevano
24:51The first time, he says
24:53Looking for a book in the bookstore
24:55We're talking about Monday
24:57Morning of August 13th
25:01Which 19 year old boy
25:03A Monday morning, August 13th
25:05The week of August 15th
25:06He goes to look for a book in the bookstore
25:08You have to explain it to me
25:10However, the bookshop is obviously closed.
25:13So he takes this receipt
25:16And he comes home
25:17This receipt is dated
25:18The license plate of the car?
25:21No
25:21It only reports the date
25:24So this receipt
25:26It could be anyone's
25:27A moment
25:28Dr. Pisano
25:30An element of this kind
25:32A receipt without the license plate
25:35How much does it weigh?
25:38Definitely a burden
25:39It has the fact that
25:41I don't think any of us
25:43It would never be preserved
25:44At least I definitely don't.
25:46One receipt for one year
25:48Unless
25:49Don't want to
25:51In short
25:51So there are
25:52There are as far as
25:54This subject
25:56Albrea Sempio
25:58Strange behaviors
26:00The receipt
26:01The fact that
26:02A few weeks ago
26:04On request
26:05He makes us take our DNA
26:07Him
26:08He refuses
26:09He opposes
26:12Now it's due
26:14Mandatory
26:15Go
26:16And get picked up
26:18Biological traces
26:21A behavior
26:23Particular
26:24So
26:24But about
26:26Own
26:27The appearance
26:29Let's say
26:30About this person
26:32We have
26:34Some
26:35Element
26:35Plus
26:36About
26:37Who was he?
26:38And who is he?
26:39In short
26:40This person
26:41Yes
26:41Already at the time
26:42We are investigating
26:43On personality
26:45Of Sempio
26:46And it shows
26:46What has
26:47Few friends
26:48He has no girlfriends
26:50He is a person
26:51Who lives a long time
26:52The house
26:54And the work
26:55Moreover
26:56It turns out
26:59That
27:00This
27:01Andrea Sempio
27:02Has
27:03Probably
27:04Some difficulties
27:05To relate
27:06With
27:06Own
27:07The world
27:07Female
27:08AND
27:09So
27:10Attend
27:11These courses
27:12Online
27:12For a fee
27:13In which
27:15A gentleman
27:16Explains
27:17How do they approach each other?
27:18The girls
27:20The group
27:21Is called
27:22Own
27:22Predator
27:23So he has
27:24A name
27:25Very
27:27Significant
27:27We are talking
27:28In this group
27:29Of women
27:30As of
27:31Prey
27:32That
27:32They must be conquered
27:34They are women
27:35That come
27:35Cataloged
27:36Based on
27:36To some numbers
27:37There is the woman
27:38Nine
27:38There is the woman
27:39Ten
27:39Based on
27:40To beauty
27:41This
27:41He was registered
27:45Go to Sempio
27:47To this course
27:47He was registered
27:48To this course
27:49And he followed the advice
27:51Of this
27:52Gentleman
27:53Which explained
27:54How to conquer
27:55Cold
27:55A woman
27:57For the
27:57Just taste
27:58To conquer her
27:59Okay
28:00At that time
28:01DNA
28:03This
28:04Analyses
28:05Of the nails
28:05It was asked
28:06From the family
28:07Poggi
28:08In 2014
28:09Meaning what
28:10In the appeal
28:10BIS
28:11During the roll call
28:11BIS
28:12The possible
28:13Presence
28:14Of material
28:14Biological
28:15On the nails
28:16Of the victim
28:17Given the
28:18Contact
28:19Which most likely
28:20Anyway there was
28:21At a distance
28:22Close-up
28:23Between Chiara
28:24And her attacker
28:24He could bring
28:25To the identification
28:26Of the aggressor
28:28And this
28:29He writes it
28:30The civil party
28:31In his deeds
28:32When he asks
28:33This thing
28:33So it is done
28:34This expertise
28:35The nails
28:36Or rather
28:37The margins are equal
28:38They are the lunettes
28:39That we cut ourselves
28:40Basically
28:41When we cut ourselves
28:42The nails
28:42They were preserved
28:44In Parma
28:45At RIS of Parma
28:46They are brought
28:47In Genoa
28:48For a new analysis
28:49And they come
28:50Basically
28:51Dissolved
28:52Each one
28:52In the meantime
28:54She got lost
28:54A
28:55One is no longer there
28:55Found
28:56Anyway, okay
28:57They are put
28:58In the test tubes
28:58Dissolved
28:59So
29:00That DNA
29:01Which then
29:02That profile
29:03Y
29:03Better
29:04Because then
29:04It should be
29:05A little more precise
29:06On this
29:06But let's say
29:07To make it clear
29:08Let's talk about DNA
29:09They are dissolved
29:11So in the moment
29:12In which we find
29:13That profile
29:14We can't say
29:15If that DNA
29:17Is
29:18Above
29:19Or below
29:19The nails
29:20By Chiara Poggi
29:21But now
29:23That DNA
29:24What before
29:25It seemed to be
29:26Unreliable
29:27So much so that
29:29The GIP
29:30He had rejected
29:31In a bad way
29:32What was
29:32The request
29:33Legitimate
29:34Of the family
29:35Today
29:36Through
29:36New techniques
29:37It seems
29:38To be
29:39Instead
29:40Reliable
29:42I
29:42Clearly
29:43I can speak
29:44As far as it concerns
29:46The defense
29:47Of Stasis
29:48I don't know what he did
29:49The prosecution
29:49So clearly
29:50I of that
29:51I cannot
29:51I can't say
29:52A
29:53I want to highlight
29:54That in 2016
29:552017
29:56That filing
29:58We arrived
29:59To that filing
30:00Without anyone
30:01He nominated
30:03A consultant
30:03Technician
30:04Meaning what
30:04Specifically
30:05The prosecution
30:06Of the Republic
30:07From Pavia
30:07At the time
30:08He did not name
30:09No consultant
30:09Technician
30:10To check
30:11If the consultancy
30:12Of the defense
30:12Whether or not it was
30:13Reliable
30:14I'm interrupting you.
30:15Because there is a video
30:16About myself
30:16Those years
30:18What do we have?
30:19Andrea Sempio too
30:20Please
30:27A boy
30:28Like many others
30:29Andrea Sempio
30:3028 years old
30:31Friend
30:31Since middle school
30:32Of the brother
30:33By Chiara Poggi
30:33Marco
30:34And he is under investigation
30:35For an act
30:36Due
30:36From the prosecution
30:37From Pavia
30:37After the complaint
30:38Of the mother
30:39Of Stasis
30:39According to which
30:40His DNA
30:41It would be compatible
30:43With that
30:43Found
30:44On the nails
30:44By Chiara
30:45Preserved
30:46At the institute
30:46Of medicine
30:47Legal
30:47From Pavia
30:48Since 2007
30:49Andrea
30:50And destroyed
30:51Even trying hard
30:52Don't let it show
30:53Also because
30:54He would never have noticed
30:56Of having been followed
30:57From private investigators
30:58About Chiara's boyfriend
30:59What they took
31:01His alleged DNA
31:02From a little bottle
31:03A small cup
31:04And a teaspoon
31:07The main topic
31:08Which was brought
31:09Against me
31:10It was this
31:11Alleged correspondence
31:13Between my DNA
31:15And a trace
31:16What was said
31:16It had been
31:18Found
31:18As soon as this
31:20It was put
31:20In the hands
31:21Of the authority
31:22The answer
31:23What we had
31:24Was
31:24That that correspondence
31:26It was nothing else
31:27That a construct
31:28And that's one thing
31:29For me
31:30Very serious
31:31In which I struggle
31:31To see
31:32An attempt
31:32To find
31:33The truth
31:34The truth
31:34Oh justice
31:38Example
31:39It ends
31:40Saying
31:41It was a construct
31:42Today
31:43Instead
31:44It seems
31:45That
31:45Let it be something
31:46More concrete
31:48More serious
31:49And also
31:50In short
31:51Something
31:51Which should
31:52On the contrary
31:53He is
31:53We said it
31:54Before
31:54Making people worry
31:58This DNA
32:00Under
32:01This
32:02Nail
32:03In short
32:04The presence
32:05About DNA
32:06From
32:07Example
32:08What
32:10Could be
32:11Determine
32:13From the point of view
32:14Of the investigation
32:15And also
32:16At the procedural level
32:17Legally
32:18Also
32:19Just a few months ago
32:20The Court of Cassation
32:21He said
32:22That the simple
32:23Done
32:24Of the discovery
32:25About DNA
32:26In a place
32:27Let's say
32:28Unusual
32:29It can bring
32:30To the test
32:32Of responsibility
32:33Hypothetically
32:34For the murder
32:35Attention
32:36That for the sake of fairness
32:37I have to say
32:37That this test
32:38Against Stasi
32:39It was never found
32:40In the sentence
32:42Even of Cassation
32:43It is read
32:44That only 5 markers
32:45About DNA
32:46They corresponded
32:47To those of Stasi
32:48In this case
32:49Obviously
32:50Clearly
32:51If the lawyers
32:53They should present
32:55Request for review
32:56It should be
32:57Open
32:58The process
32:59Of review
33:00This would not mean
33:02Which then
33:02This boy
33:03He is guilty
33:04But surely
33:05Could be
33:06An element
33:07Which proves
33:07The contradiction
33:09Some arguments
33:11Of the sentence
33:12Of condemnation
33:13Of Stasis
33:13DNA
33:14Under the nails
33:15By Chiara
33:16The profile
33:19About this person
33:21This inscription
33:22To this
33:24Club
33:25Of predators
33:27And then
33:29This receipt
33:30That
33:31Take it out
33:32And preserves
33:33After
33:34Months and months
33:35The fact
33:37So long as
33:37Waste
33:38From
33:41Spontaneously
33:42Undergo
33:43To the test
33:44About DNA
33:45All of them
33:46These things
33:47For what
33:49It's the press
33:50The newspapers
33:51What a weight
33:52They had
33:53And they will have
33:55They have a weight
33:56Important
33:57Why
33:58About Alberto
33:59Stasis
34:00There is a lot
34:00Less
34:01AND
34:02Another
34:03Detail
34:04On this
34:05Example
34:05It's that
34:06He was passionate
34:07Of knives
34:08AND
34:09He was doing an activity
34:11What time?
34:12They do it a lot of people
34:14For self-defense
34:15What is it called?
34:16Krav Maga
34:17But anyway
34:18They trained him
34:20To use knives
34:21And sticks
34:22So he
34:23Unlike Stasi
34:25Which probably
34:26He didn't even go to the gym
34:27He was a person
34:29Physically
34:30Prepared
34:31And also capable
34:32To use tools
34:34Acts to offend
34:35I want to thank you
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