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00:19We have someone special taking over our opening performance today since releasing her first
00:25single on her own less than two years ago, a single I actually covered here in 2025 because
00:29I love this song so much, it's so funny.
00:32She's amassed over 7.5 million views on social media, she's performed at countries most coveted
00:37venues including Bluebird Cafe and events like Sea to Sea Festival in Europe which is
00:42pretty huge.
00:43Her latest EP is called Tough Love with I got a new one though, give it up for Elizabeth
00:47Nichols.
01:17Yes.
01:18So I went and got a new one.
01:20And his name is Charlie, got a handlebar, a stash, and a Harley, bottle opener on his car keys,
01:30he likes having fun.
01:34He hates when I say sorry, lets wear what I want to the party, things low-rise jeans,
01:42you're artsy, yeah I got a new one.
01:49Well Charlie didn't care what I wanted to wear, said he gets hot and bothered when the other
01:55guys stare.
01:56He took me out, spun me around until the night's end.
02:02And my friend back home came, passing through the city, who I don't think he's cute, and he
02:09don't think I'm pretty.
02:11Charlie wouldn't let him go anywhere with me, he said it's me or that friend.
02:18So I went and got a new one.
02:20And his name is Jackson, it's like Charlie never even happened.
02:26He's tall and he kisses with an accent.
02:29He likes having fun.
02:33He looks real dash and thinks extroverts are attractive.
02:40Only makes you cry when I'm laughing.
02:43Yeah, I got a new one.
02:58Yeah, I got a new one.
03:12Yeah, I got a new one.
03:13Yeah, I got a new one.
03:20All right, give it up for Elizabeth Nichols, y'all.
03:28So, obviously I am a fan of the song.
03:30I couldn't wait to cover it.
03:31Thank you for letting me cover it here on the show.
03:33But where did you come up with the idea?
03:35Is this about a dude or did you just make this up?
03:37Oh, no, I make nothing up.
03:39Oh, no, okay.
03:40That makes it more fun.
03:41I'm very honest.
03:41You know, some people love a fixer-upper.
03:44Yeah.
03:44I'm not very good at manual labor.
03:47Sometimes you just got to buy a new house.
03:49Oh, my God.
03:49You're very funny.
03:51It's so clever and just witty.
03:53I love it and I love the old school vibe of it.
03:55I'm very much looking forward to new music, man.
03:57Thank you so much.
03:58Yeah, congratulations.
03:59All right, give it up for Elizabeth, y'all.
04:03Pick up Elizabeth's EP, Tough Love.
04:05It's available wherever you get your music.
04:07Let's get to our lead guest, though.
04:08We love him.
04:09You know him from roles like Parks and Rec, The Last of Us,
04:13which he actually won an Emmy, as well as the construction work
04:16he's done for our show over the years,
04:18including making our lectern of integrity with his face on it
04:22and assessing the structural integrity of Studio 6A
04:26when we moved in.
04:26He's just a nice guy, you know?
04:29You can see him now.
04:30And Margo's got money troubles on Apple TV.
04:32Everybody give it up for we love him so much, y'all.
04:35Nick Offerman.
05:11I love, we love you so much.
05:16You're one of those people I feel like you probably can't go anywhere,
05:19because everyone loves you.
05:21Well, that's generous.
05:23My siblings would have something to say about that.
05:26They don't count.
05:27They don't count.
05:28It's true.
05:29Everyone I know loves you.
05:30And they're all from different walks of life, different worlds, culturally.
05:33You're just one of those people.
05:35You know, our global taste has fallen precipitously.
05:39No.
05:40I love you so much.
05:41Congrats on the new show.
05:42Thank you for having me.
05:43Yeah.
05:44I love being on your show.
05:45We obviously love having you here.
05:47I don't know how many times you've been here.
05:48We love you.
05:49Since Megan and I single-handedly got you voted to win American Idol.
05:54Megan told me.
05:58It was before texting.
06:00You had to call a number.
06:01Dial.
06:02And to vote for you.
06:03And Justin did not get one vote.
06:07We voted for you over three million times.
06:09You changed my life.
06:11And you know I love both you and your wife.
06:14You know what?
06:14It paid off.
06:15It did.
06:16I'm doing all right.
06:17We made a bet on you and it paid off.
06:19Okay.
06:20Any other bets you made?
06:21We need to discuss to see if anything paid off.
06:23No, tell everybody.
06:24We actually had Elle on talking about the show.
06:26So tell everybody about Margo's Money Trouble.
06:28I mean, look.
06:29David E. Kelly and Eva Anderson wrote it off of an incredible novel by Rufy Thorpe.
06:34Elle Fanning, who's already the greatest young actress of our day.
06:38I love her.
06:38From the great and from her sentimental values.
06:41She just had an Oscar nomination.
06:42Yeah.
06:42She somehow takes it up like three notches.
06:47She's going to blow you away in this show.
06:49And Michelle Pfeiffer is this up and comer.
06:53Yeah, just so many unknowns involved.
06:55Yeah.
06:56She is.
06:56She's unlike anything we've ever seen.
06:59She's super funny.
07:00Yeah.
07:01And she and I play the parents of Elle Fanning.
07:05Yeah.
07:06So I'll just give you a second to do the arithmetic.
07:09No, but you're a pro wrestler.
07:12I'm a former pro wrestler named Jinx.
07:13Yeah.
07:14It's so fun.
07:15Like the entire team.
07:17The writing was so good.
07:19The beard game.
07:22Where did it go?
07:23I come by it honest.
07:24Yes.
07:26Megan, you know, when we're in our domestic time together, which is a daytime talk.
07:33She says that it's like a mouthful of thistles and that it can be very abrasive.
07:38Okay.
07:38So if I'm clean shaven, it means I don't have an acting job right now.
07:41Okay.
07:42But I am getting something.
07:42But you're getting to make out.
07:43Yeah.
07:44There you go.
07:46So wait.
07:46I heard that you made up a wrestling move for this, right?
07:49Is it Jinx?
07:50Because your name is Jinx.
07:51Yeah.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Our wonderful director, Deerville Walsh, called me one day as they were just prepping the show.
07:56And they said, what is Jinx's move that he does?
07:59And then all the fans do it back to him.
08:01Yeah.
08:02So I stood up and shot a quick video.
08:04Because I was like, well, Jinx would jinx you.
08:07Yeah.
08:08He would cast his glamour upon you.
08:10And then while you were dazed, he would kick your ass.
08:13Yeah.
08:14And so Jinx's move is just that he jinxes the audience.
08:19Which is actually amazing to see this big tough guy go.
08:24But your character, I do love your character kind of wasn't around a lot and is now trying
08:30to step up.
08:31That's where.
08:32Yeah.
08:33Yeah.
08:33He's made some bad choices in life.
08:36Michelle's character Cheyenne and our daughter Margo are sort of a second family.
08:40I have my first family back in Jersey, a wife and three kids.
08:44So out on the road, this is the product of a fling.
08:47And so I haven't been good at all to this family unit.
08:51Yeah.
08:51The other family unit throws me in the garbage finally, wisely.
08:55And so I say, finally, after all these years, I'm here.
08:59I'm going to.
09:00Now you can count on me.
09:02Now that you're 20.
09:03Good timing.
09:05Yeah.
09:06I mean, he has his own demons.
09:08And so it's such the two main protagonists are Michelle and Elle.
09:12And they're both these plucky single moms that are super messy.
09:17I'm a total mess.
09:18And we're just these real humans trying to make a go to support this new baby boy.
09:23Yeah.
09:23And it's just beautiful.
09:24It's a really beautiful real life story.
09:26Yeah.
09:27All right.
09:27Well, let's do a few commercials with the help of someone in our audience.
09:30Damn.
09:33Hi, Kelly and Nick.
09:34I'm Rex Lawless, known in the wrestling world as Pectoral Poseidon.
09:39Nick, your character Jinx in Margo's Got Money Trouble may be retired,
09:43but I'm the current Victory Pro Wrestling New York State Champion.
09:46All right.
09:47In life, Ron Swanson.
09:49Yeah.
09:50Yeah.
09:50I'm a two-hook, six-foot-two, 250-pound meat-eating man.
09:56Yeah.
09:58Yeah.
10:04Hello.
10:05Kelly.
10:06Kelly and Nick have more for you after the commercial break.
10:09So stay tuned.
10:19I thought you might be dead.
10:21No, I'm not dead.
10:24I just found out.
10:26I was in rehab to take away your phone.
10:28Rehab?
10:28I came as soon as...
10:32I'm so sorry.
10:34And I'm here.
10:41I'm here.
10:55I'm back with Nick Alderman.
10:57That was a look at his new show, Margo's Got Money Troubles.
11:00You can catch it on Apple TV.
11:02So you're also back on stage this summer as well, right?
11:04We were just talking about you and your wife are doing musical.
11:06That's right.
11:07Yeah.
11:07My wife, the illustrious Megan Mullally...
11:10Yeah.
11:14...will be the star of this new musical called Ice Boy at the Goodman Theatre in Chicago.
11:20Yeah.
11:20Which we're so excited about.
11:22She's been workshopping it for years.
11:24It's a super funny, stupid, beautiful new comedy.
11:29Yeah.
11:29Like, it's from...
11:30I love all those adjectives.
11:31It's from the writers of Urinetown and Spelling Bee.
11:34Yeah.
11:34It's super funny.
11:35The music is so great.
11:36And I love nothing more.
11:38I have a supporting role.
11:39I'm kind of the narrator.
11:40Than watching Megan Mullally...
11:43She has this Ethel Merman switch that...
11:45Yeah.
11:47Yeah.
11:48I love you guys so much.
11:50I'm not even kidding.
11:51That was this morning.
11:52There are two couples I mention in Hollywood.
11:54There are two couples in Hollywood I always mention.
11:56And it's you two and Kerr Russell and Goldie Hawn.
11:58There's something about y'all, all four of you, that is just so cool.
12:03And, like, it's a really hard thing to have a relationship with somebody else that's in the industry.
12:08Like, with ego involved and everything.
12:10Y'all are always so supportive.
12:11And you always...
12:11I just love y'all.
12:12Well, thank you.
12:13Yes.
12:14There's no question.
12:15I just love y'all.
12:16We're very lucky.
12:17Yeah.
12:18So, okay.
12:18Y'all are doing this in Chicago and you actually spend a lot of time in Chicago.
12:23What's your favorite thing about being back there?
12:24Oh, gosh.
12:25I mean...
12:25It's cold.
12:26Hey.
12:26It is cold.
12:27And that's one of my favorite things.
12:29Like, I love the weather.
12:31I love...
12:31In Illinois, one of the reasons we're tough and we have a great work ethic is because we
12:35live in the weather.
12:36You know, you have to have the right gear.
12:39Living there in the 90s, cutting my teeth with my theater company, the Defiant Theater,
12:44and, like, working in pro theater, I didn't actually have time to enjoy Chicago much because
12:49it was just 24-7 theater.
12:51Yeah.
12:51But it's the best theater town in the country.
12:54So, my favorite thing was actually the CTA, taking the L train.
12:59Because as a broke actor, you would get, for 30 bucks, you'd get your Metro card.
13:04Yeah.
13:04And you'd rule the city for $30 a month.
13:07Yeah.
13:07And it was like traveling...
13:09I don't know.
13:09I grew up in a little town.
13:12So, taking the train in the big city of Chicago was like commuting by Ferris wheel.
13:17Yeah.
13:18Where you were like, done with work, now I get to take a ride.
13:22And take in the people in the city.
13:24Yeah.
13:24And stop and get like...
13:25As many times as I want.
13:26I do, yeah.
13:27You can ride all the way down.
13:28Yeah.
13:29I do love Chicago.
13:30Great restaurants, great shows, you're right, yeah.
13:32It's an incredible place to gain weight.
13:36So is Texas.
13:38You've thrown out the first pitch at some Chicago Cubs games.
13:41That's right.
13:42Or Cubs games, sorry.
13:43What do you love about that?
13:44We're going to show you.
13:45You've thrown out several times.
13:46I mean...
13:47I love...
13:49I love how it goes from like Santa Claus beard to like, no, and then to like, nothing
13:54at all.
13:55You look like a cop in the last one with your stash.
13:58I am.
13:58A cop who's getting kissed a little bit more than the other two.
14:02Those other two homeless guys.
14:04That has to be nerve-wracking.
14:05All those people watching.
14:06That's...
14:07That would make me nervous.
14:08It is.
14:08It's crazy to be in a baseball stadium with about 40,000 people.
14:12Yeah.
14:12And...
14:12And it's like...
14:14It has an element of reverence.
14:16Like, I grew up like this is, you know, where my team, the Cubs play.
14:19Yeah.
14:19And you go out on the field.
14:21The first time I did this whole bit, I took my dad out with me, who was my teacher,
14:25my coach, and like, it was so cool to do it with my dad.
14:28Yeah.
14:29And we did a bit where I lined up on the pitching mound and faced directly to center field,
14:34the wrong direction, and came to set like I was about to pitch.
14:37And my dad was like, no, no, no, no.
14:40Other way.
14:41And it went great.
14:42Yeah.
14:42And 17 people died laughing.
14:46And then I turned around and I realized that I'd put all my focus on the bit.
14:51And then I was like, oh, .
14:53Yeah.
14:54Now I have to throw the baseball to that guy way over there.
14:56The adrenaline goes away.
14:57Yeah.
14:57Yeah.
14:58But it worked out.
14:58Have you ever messed it up?
15:00Have you ever...
15:00Has it gone like way short?
15:02That one...
15:03It barely bounced.
15:04It was...
15:05It was not a bad pitch.
15:07Okay.
15:08But I was excoriated by the fans.
15:11Oh, yeah.
15:11They take it very seriously.
15:12That's a new word for me, Pee Wee Herman.
15:14I have never heard that word.
15:16You're so smart.
15:17They...
15:17They powerfully criticized me with foul language.
15:21You broke it down to where I could understand.
15:23I could get a book for dummies.
15:25Okay.
15:25We have to take another break.
15:26Margo's Got Money Troubles airs Wednesdays on Apple TV.
15:29And if you're in Chicago this summer, y'all gotta check out Nick and his lovely wife in Ice Boy,
15:34the musical at the Goodman Theater.
15:36Tickets are available now.
15:37We've got an epic story from Nick's youth coming up next.
15:40Stay right here.
15:51Welcome back.
15:52Nick Ogden is here with us, y'all.
15:55His new story is called Margo's Got Money Troubles.
15:57It's on Apple TV.
15:58Nick is not only an actor but an incredible storyteller.
16:01In fact, we keep a copy of one of his books on set at all times.
16:05That's not a lie.
16:05He came here and I was like, I'm gonna have this on my set every time we do a show.
16:09Not a liar.
16:10In honor, I just love you.
16:14Did I do that right?
16:15In honor, yeah, I don't know.
16:16I'm older, too.
16:18I don't know.
16:19Vogue.
16:20Vogue.
16:21Jinx.
16:22Vogue.
16:23Vogue.
16:23In honor of the great stories of Nick's books, it's time for one from his early years.
16:26This is Epic Storytime.
16:30Epic Storytime.
16:35All right.
16:36So how it works is, and you're welcome for this song, how it works is I'll get one question.
16:42Then Nick will tell a story with the help of illustrations from the children's book he's
16:45holding.
16:46So, Nick, did you ever do anything really dumb as a teenager?
16:50Why, yes, Kelly, one, one thing.
16:54Did one dumb thing.
16:55Just one.
16:56Yeah, um, when I was all of 19, my friends and I had a favorite running joke.
17:02Choplifting stupid items.
17:04It was hilarious.
17:05After all, what could be more fun than pointless petty larceny, right?
17:10Fracking, maybe?
17:12One day we went to a local department store so my buddy Joe could purchase a microwave for
17:17his girlfriend for Christmas.
17:18He paid, and as we sauntered out, the security man stopped us.
17:22He said, excuse me, can I talk to you?
17:25Uh, yeah.
17:27I replied.
17:28He asked to examine the front of my jeans, and sure enough, there he found not four, not
17:34five, not even six, but eight Ronnie Millsap cassettes.
17:43Why?
17:43Please let us pause to calm your exploding heart rate.
17:47Yes, yes.
17:48All good?
17:49Yeah.
17:50To resume.
17:51Eight disparate albums from country legend Ronnie Millsap on cassette.
17:56I had apparently shoved them into the front of my jeans directly in front of a two-way security
18:01mirrored window.
18:02Oh.
18:03The guard's chair behind the mirror was about 14 feet from the display of country greats
18:08on sale.
18:09I explained that it was actually just a hilarious joke.
18:13The guard told me that if I could pay for the tapes, which cost about $17, he'd let me go.
18:18$17 I did not have.
18:20He said he was sorry then, but he'd have to call the police.
18:23I stoically said, well, that's your call, buddy, but I won the game.
18:29So, puzzled at my bravado, he did in fact call the cops.
18:33The cops came and I was taken into the station and booked straight up at around 11 a.m.
18:39Now, I was at this moment only mildly worried.
18:42You see, that evening I was set to appear in the opening night performance of the play
18:46Picnic.
18:47But surely, I thought, my friends will jar me out of my internment with time to spare.
18:52And sure enough, my friend Goliath, alerted by Joe, showed up with my bail, which was about
18:58$250.
18:59Good man.
19:00I was set to get off easy, but it was here.
19:03Right here, right at this damn point that I made my second biggest mistake of the afternoon
19:08when I spoke the following to the fine officers processing me.
19:13Gentlemen, I am truly sorry that I committed this grave error.
19:17I am a jackass of the first order.
19:20And now, if you wouldn't mind hustling my paperwork along, expediting it, as they say.
19:26For you see, I am a student of the theater.
19:31And tonight is the opening of my play, Picnic, on the main stage at the Krannert Center for
19:37the Performing Arts.
19:38My call time is 6.30 for an 8 p.m. show.
19:41It's 5 o'clock now, so thanks for the hustle.
19:46The officers looked at one another and said to me, opening night, oh, don't you worry.
19:52We'll take care of it.
19:53We love the arts around here.
19:57Amazing.
19:58I sighed my relief as they locked me up.
20:00From my humble holding cell, I could see the officers through a large window as I awaited
20:05my imminent release.
20:065.30 p.m.
20:096 p.m.
20:10Curious.
20:11The officers seemed pretty calm.
20:14Immobile, really.
20:15The clock was ticking.
20:176.15.
20:18Oh, my lord.
20:196.30.
20:20Holy balls.
20:227 o'clock.
20:23I banged down the window to communicate that I was b****** little green apples in there.
20:29I saw their game.
20:30I comprehended the bit.
20:33But if I missed this play, I'd surely be expelled from my institution of education.
20:37I began to think about where I'd go from here, a hardened criminal with a record.
20:41I suppose I'd go back to framing houses in Manuka, my hometown, my sweet parents.
20:46The most decent people I'd ever come across were about to be handed back this steaming
20:51pile of a sun.
20:52It was 7.38 when the fuzz finally roused themselves to emancipate your pudding-headed author.
20:58Goliath violated some speeding limits driving to the stage door.
21:02I sprinted into the dressing room, slapped on some makeup, and threw on my loafers and yellow
21:06cardigan.
21:07And before I knew it, I was clumsily blubbering through my crying scene in Act 2.
21:12Most definitely the best crying scene I've ever delivered.
21:17The final chapter saw me called in front of a court of kindly and august senior citizens,
21:23who I dare say saw me for what I was, a harmless dumbass.
21:29I was shown a list of departments to choose from for my 100 hours of community service,
21:34and I went with animal control.
21:37With no exaggeration whatsoever, I can report that I spent a few weekends helping sorority
21:42girls look at puppies at the Humane Society, confirming my absolute reputation as an asshole.
21:50Now, friends, what can we take away from this cautionary tale?
21:54I do think it's important to behave rebelliously when striking out on one's own, but I would
22:00suggest coming up just short of breaking the law.
22:03If you are going to burglarize a retail establishment, for sake, case the joint ahead of time.
22:11Also, don't ever underestimate the value of Ronnie Millsap.
22:22Give it up for Nick Offerman, y'all.
22:25More stories like that by any of Nick's books, including Travel Your Own For New,
22:29and Where the Dear Nands Will Play.
22:31And thanks to Jason Kirshner from our art department for those illustrations.
22:34He's incredible.
22:35We'll be right back with Broadway star and debate.
22:49Welcome back, everybody.
22:51Our next guest is one of the most talented actors to grace the stages of Broadway.
22:55He's performed in Sweeney Todd, Wicked.
22:57Plus, he originated and won a Tony for the role of Christian in Moulin Rouge.
23:01Right now, you can see him in chess.
23:03He's playing at the Imperial Theater on Broadway right here in New York City.
23:06Please welcome Aaron Teveit.
23:33That's like...
23:34Wow.
23:34That's like, just so you know, as a host on this show, that's like K-pop level.
23:38That's like...
23:39Like when a K-pop artist comes in, it's like a different frequency.
23:42You know what I'm saying?
23:43And that is the same thing.
23:45Wow.
23:45Do you get that everywhere you go?
23:46Oh, yeah.
23:46I paid all these people to be here.
23:48So, thank you for that.
23:49That's crazy.
23:50Yeah, it's crazy.
23:51Wow.
23:51Wait, so since you...
23:52Since we saw you last, you got your picture up at Sardi's, right?
23:55Yes, I did.
23:56That's a...
23:57That's a big...
23:57Tell everybody if they don't know.
23:58Oh, there it is.
24:00Yeah, wow.
24:01You know, what's so funny about the Sardi's pictures is you kind of never know what they're
24:04going to look like.
24:05Yeah, you kind of look like you could have been cast in Barbie.
24:07Yeah.
24:08That one, I walked in and I saw the picture and I knew exactly the picture that they're referencing.
24:13And I was like, wow, this is actually so specific, but great.
24:16But no, it's such a cool thing.
24:17You know, much like when I won a Tony Award, which is another amazing thing, it was the
24:21most feeling of being seen by this community that, you know, I'd wanted to be a part of
24:26my whole life.
24:26And it was like a moment where they said, you're a part of this.
24:29We see you.
24:30Great.
24:31So the Sardi's thing felt the same, right?
24:32Yeah.
24:32It's this very...
24:34It's this thing that is so iconic.
24:36And, you know, when your picture goes up, they give you really good placement for the first
24:39couple months.
24:40So I had a lot of, I had a lot of friends and family that went in and my picture
24:43was
24:43like right behind the Mater D.
24:44And so they saw it and took pictures and...
24:46Do you slowly make your way to the bathroom?
24:48They slowly...
24:48Yeah.
24:49They rotate everyone around.
24:50I don't know where I am now, but...
24:52Are they easy to move?
24:53Because I would totally mess with people.
24:55Just moving somewhere else.
24:56Yeah.
24:56Easy to just, let's switch these out.
24:58Yeah.
24:58I'm sure they're just hung on the wall.
25:00I'll check it out there.
25:00That was like when I first had my first record out.
25:02I went into like every Walmart, every store and I just put mine in front of everyone.
25:05That's amazing.
25:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:07That's good.
25:07You should buy this.
25:09How's chess going?
25:10We had Leah here.
25:11Yes, she was...
25:12She's raving.
25:13It's like one of her favorite things she's ever done.
25:14Yeah.
25:15She's amazing.
25:16You know, she and I have known each other for a long time, but never gotten the chance
25:18to work together.
25:19So that's been incredible.
25:20Yeah.
25:20But the show's fantastic.
25:22You know, we opened in November, and so now we're really kind of in the flow of it,
25:26five or six months long.
25:27And you know, it's this amazing show that has really resonated with people for four decades.
25:33You know, it first came out in the 80s.
25:34It didn't have a huge success on Broadway, but the music is kind of so iconic that people
25:39have been fans of it for so long.
25:40Yeah.
25:41You know, Benny and Bjorn from ABBA wrote the music and Tim Rice wrote the lyrics.
25:44So it's this amazing combination of these incredible pop songs by real pop writers.
25:49Yeah.
25:50You know, set to a theatrical narrative.
25:51So it has a really interesting mix that I think is why it's resonated with people for
25:56so long.
25:56It has to be the coolest compliment in the world, too, because Leah told me, she was like,
26:00who are going to get to play this part?
26:01Like, everybody was thinking who could possibly do it with the range vocally and the range
26:05of the character in general.
26:06Yeah.
26:06And I mean, you're the only name that was spoken.
26:09That has to be...
26:10That has to be...
26:11That has to make you feel so good, right?
26:13It was very...
26:14She's shared that story a couple of times that, yeah, she and John Groff were riding
26:17Because it's a bad-ass story.
26:18It's pretty cool.
26:19Yeah.
26:20So, you know...
26:20You sound like the Tulsa to yourself, so let others say it.
26:24Yeah.
26:24It's very cool.
26:26It's a tough show.
26:27It's a tough part.
26:28I think it's the hardest vocal thing I've ever done.
26:31Yeah.
26:32Which is...
26:33You know, but you know how it is.
26:34Like, there's sometimes...
26:35No, I don't.
26:35No, you do.
26:37Think about when you're on tour or something and you have your show that you're doing,
26:40Say you have, like, one song that you know is, like, really tough and you're like, okay,
26:43I've got to get through this.
26:44Not yet.
26:44Well, for me, that's, like, at the end of my show, right?
26:46I have this, like, ten-minute stretch in the second act where I sing, you know, kind
26:50of these two songs back-to-back.
26:51And it's always...
26:52It's always like, okay, just get through that, get through that.
26:54But then you have this thing at the end.
26:55So it's a...
26:55Yes, but the difference...
26:56Let me tell you the difference.
26:57You're being kind.
26:58Yeah.
26:58Is on tour, I can look at them and go, not today.
27:02And we changed the key of that.
27:04So on tour, I can at least...
27:05I can alter things.
27:06When you're a part of a group thing, you have to kind of stick to what it is.
27:10Like, that's different.
27:11You got to make it happen.
27:12Yeah.
27:12Well, there's a moment in the show where you're lifted up and dropped into pants.
27:16Mm-hmm.
27:17What?
27:19Yeah.
27:20How can you explain that?
27:21Yeah, so the opening number of the second act is this very iconic 80s dance pop song,
27:27One Night in Bangkok.
27:28I don't know if you're familiar.
27:29But it's on...
27:31It's the song that people that know nothing about chess, they come in and they're like,
27:34oh, I know that song, because it's somehow on every 80s playlist.
27:37But it's this idea that, you know, my character's dealing with a lot of mental health issues.
27:43But in the second act, I'm kind of off my meds and self-medicating in Bangkok.
27:48Yes.
27:49So if you kind of imagine a little bit of, like, Sam Rockwell in The White Lotus.
27:52There you go.
27:53But then you have to take that guy, and my job is to be a commentator for this world chess
27:57championship.
27:58So you have to take that guy and get him on screen to do his job.
28:01And so we have this idea that, you know, what if I'm kind of in various states of undress,
28:06and through the number, they're kind of propping me up, getting me dressed, Weekend at Bernie
28:11Style, to kind of be on camera to do my job.
28:14So that's where this all came from.
28:15And yeah, the ensemble, they lift me into my pants, and it gets a reaction every single
28:21night.
28:22And it's like one of our tried and true, we know we're going to get a good response.
28:27Have you ever missed one of the legs?
28:29Oh, yeah, definitely.
28:29Okay.
28:30So I think we're, let's do the math here.
28:32I think they said the other night we're about 200 shows in.
28:35Yeah.
28:35And I think I've missed three or four times.
28:38That's pretty good.
28:39That's a good percentage.
28:39Yeah, we're like 98%.
28:40Yeah.
28:40Yeah.
28:41Yeah.
28:41But it happens, you know.
28:42What happens when you miss the leg?
28:44What are you...
28:45You're just like, never mind.
28:47So...
28:47I think the most notable thing that happened was one day it really went awry, because Murphy's
28:52Law, right?
28:53And so I was, I had to move on, and you're just making these quick decisions in the moment,
28:57and I basically grabbed the pants, and I kind of made a thing out of it, and I threw them
29:01off stage into the wing.
29:03But then as soon as I did that...
29:04So no pants day.
29:04I had no pants.
29:05I was just like in, you know, my little Tom Cruise underwear situation.
29:08Risky business.
29:09All right.
29:09Yeah.
29:10But as soon as I did that, I realized, oh, they're still going to put my loafers on.
29:14And so for the whole second half of the song, I'm going to have to dance a bit, and I'm
29:18going to be in loafers, white socks, and white boxer groups.
29:21Which is great.
29:22Yeah.
29:22But again, it was one of those things.
29:24And this is why theater is awesome, because every show is different.
29:26Absolutely different.
29:27Yeah.
29:27And you might be at the one where you get risky business and loafers.
29:30That's right.
29:31So that was a special night.
29:32But yeah, Murphy's Law.
29:33What a treat.
29:34Okay.
29:34We have to stop for another break.
29:36If you are in New York, be sure to see Aaron and Chess at the Imperial Theater on Broadway.
29:40Tickets are online, people.
29:41And the Chess 2025 Broadway cast recording, which is incredible, is available now digitally
29:46wherever you get your music.
29:48So go check that out.
29:49Author Dave Pilkey is here next.
30:03Welcome back to y'all.
30:04Our next guest is the creative mind behind the wildly popular book series, Dog Man and
30:08Captain Underpants.
30:10Popular may even be an understatement.
30:12There are more than 90 million copies of the Captain Underpants books in print, translated
30:16into 37 languages.
30:18Plus his books have been turned into several movies.
30:21I have seen a lot of them.
30:22Now you can experience the stories in a brand new format, a graphic novel.
30:26The first is called Captain Underpants, the first epic manga.
30:29And it's available now wherever books are sold.
30:32Let's welcome author Dave Pilkey.
30:50Hi.
30:51Hi.
30:51Nice to see you.
30:52So good to see you.
30:53I know you've donated books to the show before and our guests and everything.
30:56But this is our first time in person, right?
30:58Meeting.
30:58It is our first time, yeah.
31:00I am a huge fan.
31:01We read a lot of your stuff at my house.
31:03I'm a huge fan.
31:03But let's talk about this.
31:04This is a manga book.
31:06Explain what that is for everyone else.
31:08I totally know.
31:10And how you got into it.
31:11Well, manga is basically just Japanese comics.
31:14Oh, okay.
31:15And I got into it because my wife and I live in Japan and I see manga all the time.
31:19I'm a huge fan.
31:20And I thought it would be a really great way to introduce Captain Underpants to a new generation
31:24of readers.
31:26That's awesome.
31:27So your first Captain Underpants book was released almost 30 years ago.
31:30I know.
31:31You started writing these very young.
31:33What kind of inspired it?
31:34Well, I was in second grade.
31:36Yeah.
31:37Sitting around one day.
31:38My teacher was talking.
31:39And she just was talking to everybody.
31:41And she happened to use the word underwear in class.
31:43Or I think she said underpants.
31:44And we all just burst out laughing.
31:45And I don't know why.
31:47But I remember I was like looking around.
31:49Everyone was laughing their heads off.
31:50And I thought, wow, underwear is pretty powerful.
31:53I should do something with that.
31:55And so I've been making Captain Underpants comics.
31:58I started making comics back in those days.
32:01But I've been making the books ever since.
32:02Yeah.
32:03That's what a creative thing was writing.
32:05It was important for me.
32:07I had a hard time communicating hilariously enough.
32:11And so writing was kind of my outlet for getting that job done.
32:15And me like getting my feelings out.
32:16Why did you start writing?
32:18Well, it's because I was sitting out in the hallway a lot.
32:21When I was a kid.
32:22I had some behavior problems.
32:24I had ADHD.
32:25Me too.
32:25You do.
32:26Yes.
32:26Awesome.
32:27My sister.
32:27Yes.
32:30And luckily we were too poor for me to be put on medicine.
32:33Because I think it's also kind of a super power.
32:35It is.
32:35Yeah.
32:36And we were doing all right.
32:37Absolutely.
32:38Yeah.
32:38Exactly.
32:39That is right.
32:40Yeah.
32:41I also have dyslexia.
32:43And so I was just having a hard time in school and getting along in class.
32:47I couldn't control my behavior.
32:49So my teacher was always like, Mr. Pilkey, out.
32:52You know, I'd go out in the hallway and sit out there all by myself.
32:55Yeah.
32:55And I had nothing else to do.
32:56So that's when I started drawing.
32:57Kind of a thank you to those teachers.
32:59Yeah.
32:59Well, I have to give a lot of credit to my mom.
33:01Because, you know, it was really tough when I was a kid.
33:05Yeah.
33:05Like you said, when we were kids, they didn't have the resources for us.
33:09And so.
33:09And they tried to tame it, I think.
33:11Oh, yeah.
33:11Yeah.
33:12Yeah.
33:12Or like me, they just got me out of there.
33:14Yeah.
33:14Into the hallway.
33:15And so I'd come home from school.
33:17I'd be so discouraged.
33:18I'd feel so bad.
33:19But, you know, I had a mom and dad who really loved me.
33:21And they supported me.
33:22And they believed in me.
33:23Yeah.
33:23Even when I didn't believe in myself, really.
33:26Yeah.
33:26And I think that was what got me through that tough time.
33:30Of course.
33:30Do you have any future projects?
33:33I mean, you're killing it with these.
33:35Oh.
33:35But any future things you're wanting to do?
33:37Yeah.
33:38Well, there's a new Dog Man book coming out.
33:39Oh, my son is going to freak out.
33:40Oh, yeah.
33:41Yeah.
33:42Yeah.
33:42That's like his favorite.
33:43Yeah.
33:43It's called Dog Man, A Sprinkle in Time.
33:45Yeah.
33:45It's coming out.
33:45A Sprinkle in Time.
33:46A Sprinkle in Time.
33:47Oh, this is the cover.
33:48Like A Sprinkle in Time.
33:49Oh, I love it.
33:50I love it.
33:51Yeah.
33:52This is the first time we've shown the cover.
33:55Okay.
33:55Okay.
33:56So, anyways, that's coming out this fall.
33:58Yeah.
33:58And I have a whole bunch of stuff lined up.
34:00More Captain Underpants manga is coming out, too.
34:03Lots of things.
34:04Dude, congratulations on all the success.
34:06Thanks, Kelly.
34:07It's a really cool thing to be such a powerful writer that you get all these little kids
34:12that maybe would want to be on their iPads reading books.
34:15That's an incredible superpower.
34:17Yeah.
34:18Thank you so much, Dave.
34:20Give it up for Dave, y'all.
34:21Dave's latest book, Captain Underpants, the first epic manga as it will now, wherever
34:26you get your books.
34:27And everyone in the audience is going home with a copy.
34:29Plus, you're getting a copy of Dog Man.
34:31There are two studios and a dog manga.
34:35We're going to be right back with a special presentation.
34:50All right, y'all, welcome back.
34:52Disney and country music, two things lots of people love.
34:55And now we can enjoy them both at once with the new album, Main Street Country.
34:58It's all classic Disney tunes with a country twist.
35:02Our next guest is one of a whole list of award-winning artists on the album, including Cain Brown and
35:06Breeland performing She's So Gone.
35:08Give it up for Dasha.
35:09Oh, yeah.
35:19Insecure in a skin like a puppet girl on a string.
35:27Broke away, learned to fight.
35:30If you want her back, I'd let her shine.
35:34Now it looks like it chokes on you.
35:37Cause, girl, this thought you knew.
35:41She's so gone.
35:44It's so over now.
35:48She's so gone.
35:52You won't mind her around.
35:56Oh, you can look, but you won't see.
36:01Girl, how do you speak?
36:03Cause she, she's so gone.
36:10Here I am.
36:12This is me.
36:14And I'm stronger than I ever thought I'd be.
36:18Are you shocked?
36:19Or are you mad?
36:22Thought you're missing out on who I really am.
36:25But it looks like the joke's on you.
36:28But it looks like the joke's on you.
36:29Cause, girl, this thought you knew.
36:32She's so gone.
36:36She's so gone.
36:37It's so over now.
36:40She's so gone.
36:44You won't find her around.
36:47Oh, and you can look, but you won't see.
36:52Girl, how do you speak?
36:54Girl, how do you think?
36:57She's so gone.
37:05She's so gone.
37:16She's so gone.
37:20She's so gone.
37:21She's so gone.
37:22She's so gone.
37:22But baby, this makes me.
37:28She's so gone.
37:32But baby, this makes me.
37:32She's so gone.
37:33It's so over now.
37:35She's so gone.
37:39She's so gone.
37:40You won't find her around.
37:43Oh, and I can't wonder what you've lost to me.
37:48Look her eyes, baby.
37:53She, she's so gone
37:58Alright, one more time, give it up for Dasha, y'all
38:00Pick up Main Street Country, wherever you get your music
38:03We'll be right back with What I'm Liking
38:13Alright, y'all, let's finish up with one last cool story
38:16This is What I'm Liking
38:20Washington Wizards power forward and center
38:22Anthony Davis is one of a kind on the court
38:24He is the first player ever to win an NCAA title
38:27An Olympic gold medal, a FIBA World Cup, and an NBA title
38:31There's a lot of things going on there
38:32He's really great
38:33He has a new show on TBS called Foul Play with Anthony Davis
38:37And he's on the line to tell us all about it
38:39What's up, Anthony?
38:40So, how you doing?
38:41I'm so good, thank you for joining us
38:43Tell us about the new show and how it got started, man
38:45I'm a big prankster myself
38:47And I went on Impractical Jokers
38:49And was able to be a special guest
38:51And had a great time
38:53And from that, you know, I wanted to do my own thing
38:56You know, similar to what they do
38:57But with athletes
38:58And was able to work alongside them
39:01And my team
39:02And kind of figure it all out
39:04And create
39:04And if I'll play with Anthony Davis
39:06Oh my god, I love that show so much
39:08This is going to be so great
39:09So you've created
39:10Or you've recruited, rather
39:11Some major stars to be part of the show
39:13So name some
39:14So some guys that have helped me out
39:17As far as an accomplice
39:20LeBron, obviously, you've seen
39:21When we pranked Draymond
39:23Jordan Childs helped me out
39:25I kind of reverse pranked Tara Lipinski
39:29Yeah
39:30Howie Mandel helped me out
39:32On one of the pranks
39:34And then it was kind of like
39:36Some athletes with, you know
39:37Their daughter
39:39Or their, you know, son
39:41Or, you know, family friend
39:43Whatever kind of helped me out
39:45Puka Nakula helped me out
39:46With one of his teammates
39:47So we recruited some big stars
39:50Floyd Mayweather helped me out
39:53So we have a lot of big stars
39:54On the show
39:55Yeah, oh my gosh
39:56Well, it's hilarious, man
39:58What a great idea
39:59This is awesome
40:00Everybody, give it up for Anthony
40:01I'm liking your posts right now
40:04But that's not all
40:05Our season-long partner
40:07Pilot Pen
40:07Makers of Friction
40:08The go-to raceful pen
40:09Of The Kelly Clarkson Show
40:10Want to celebrate all you do
40:12So they're donating
40:13A thousand dollars
40:14To Nourishing Hope
40:14A non-profit we know
40:15Means a lot to you
40:16So that was for you
40:17Thank you so much, Anthony
40:21You can catch
40:21Shroud Clay with Anthony Davis
40:23Monday nights on TBS
40:24Thank you to all our guests
40:26This hour
40:26Nick Offerman
40:27And today
40:28Thank you
40:29And Elizabeth Nichols
40:31Have a great day
40:32If it's not time changing
40:33Thank you
40:35Thank you
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