00:30Isu yang kita nak fokus adalah isu pelantikan, isu penamatan dan isu accountability pada parlimen. Jadi mereka telah membentangkan pandangan
00:40mereka. Jadi selepas ini mesyuarat yang akan datang, mesyuarat yang keempat akan berlaku pada 27 hari bulan.
00:45Jadi sebelum mesyuarat itu kita akan mendapat pandangan daripada Jabatan Pembangunan Negara dari segi undang-undang tentang semua pandangan CSO
00:51dengan NGO.
00:52Di ikuti dengan saya pun telah mengarahkan wakil-wakil daripada parti dalam jantung kuasa ini untuk mendapat posisi secara bertulis
01:02kedudukan parti mereka pada perkara-perkara sini.
01:04Jadi kita dah dapat ada NGO dan AGC akan menjawab dan kita nak dengar daripada parti-parti politik dalam negara
01:11kita apa pandangan mereka secara rasmi dalam isu ini.
01:15How would the staff in AGC be divided between PP and the AGC? What about the...
01:22Oh, that one is administrative later. I think right now we're trying to get the issue about the constitution itself
01:29because it's a constitutional amendment.
01:30But will there be, would it be looked into so that their duties will...
01:35Oh, that one will be a bit, that one will be later, not now.
01:38Now it's just a constitutional amendment on the main structure of the two entity being separated.
01:45I think as far as the position of the Attorney General is not an issue, I think that's quite straightforward.
01:50The only issue is the position of the public prosecutor.
01:53I'm not going to deny from every presentation, if you read through the social media or any media statement or
02:00any legal opinion or legal study.
02:05I mean, there is no denial that in our country there is a great awareness and a lot of public
02:10wants to see the appointment of this personality, the public prosecutor, is an independent appointment.
02:15So, I mean, everybody says that.
02:17But as you know, in a democratic setting, like in Malaysia, when you talk about independent or the personality is
02:24appointed independently without fear or favor, what is the concept of independence?
02:29Because in our system that we have, every appointment is by virtue of the existence of a commission.
02:35But today, I think with the NGOs and the CSOs, they are raising the most important element now is the
02:43role of the parliament.
02:43They want the parliament to play a more important role, a more relevant role on the process of appointment, which
02:51is quite reasonable and quite fair because as NGOs and CSOs, they believe that the parliament is the voice of
02:58the people.
02:59But at the same time, I mean, there are also other comparative jurisdiction that we have to look into.
03:04In some countries, although the parliament is involved in the appointment process, but the names are all being brought by
03:10the executive.
03:11But in this particular case, there are many variations we have to look at.
03:15So, it's still in the process of studying.
03:17So, we're trying to fight for a compromise.
03:19But I'm not going to say that the NGOs and the CSOs' point of view is wrong.
03:24I mean, that's their prerogative.
03:25They have every right to have that opinion and they want the best of the country.
03:27So, what we need to do now is to find a middle ground.
03:30I mean, NGOs is one thing with certain priority to their mission statement as compared to political parties.
03:38And you know whether you like it or not, when you speak about parliament, you cannot run away from political
03:43party influence.
03:44Because parliament is political parties.
03:46So, indirectly, you don't want political parties to have influence.
03:49Through parliament, there will still be a political party influence.
03:52Correct?
03:53Mana parliament to orang luar?
03:54You have the upper house and the lower house.
03:55All of us are politicians.
03:57So, the question here is that you want politician involved or you don't want politician involved?
04:00I mean, all that is to be discussed and to be studied.
04:03Okay?
04:03It's a very technical subject.
04:05So, you have to bear with us.
04:07Dr. Sri, it sounds like it was an intense meeting.
04:10Was it an intense meeting?
04:11No, there was nasi lemak there when I was in time.
04:14Because I think as far as the NGOs are concerned, they're very consistent in their views.
04:17There's nothing new, nothing surprising.
04:20But the MPs also would have their own variation of thought process because the MPs are representing their political parties.
04:26And political parties will also have to see.
04:29When you're in power, the political party may have a different view.
04:31When you're not in power, a political party may be a different view.
04:35Because the beauty thing about our country and our democracy is that many political parties have become government.
04:40Opposition become government, government become opposition.
04:43So, everybody's got a different view.
04:44So, things are very, very still premature to comment lah.
04:48Nak tanya sikit je.
04:49You understand?
04:50Faham.
04:50So, you all kena faham lah.
04:51Tak nak orang politik, tapi orang politik berkuasa.
04:53Tak nak lantik, tapi pernah.
04:57Bila pembangkang, tak nak.
04:58Bila kerajaan, dia nak.
05:00Biasalah orang politik, semua dia nak kan.
05:01Jadi, kita dengar lah.
05:03Okay, apa dia?
05:03Saya ni tengah nak pergi gaya ni.
05:05Macam mana lah, saya tahu.
05:08Tak ada kena-kena.
05:11Itu tanya bukan negara lah.
05:13Saya hanya menteri di jabatan belian menteri.
05:17Okay, makasih eh.
05:18Okay, sampai.
05:18Bye-bye.
05:27Bye-bye.
05:28You
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