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00:00It's bad.
00:00You know it's something.
00:02And I don't want to take the chance of that happening at all
00:05if I'm trying to avoid any sort of information.
00:08You have to turn it all off.
00:09It's been so long since I've tried that
00:11that I don't like my chances of doing so successfully,
00:17but it sounds like you made it, so good.
00:19That worked then?
00:19Are you planning on watching the Sabres in the playoffs
00:23and have a game go to overtime and being online for it?
00:27Have you thought about that yet?
00:28Yes, I have, and no, I won't be.
00:31You have to not.
00:33I will not, yeah, no.
00:34Because you're going to find out from online
00:36before the game you're watching, before the goal is scored.
00:38I think I'm even going to have to take special precautions
00:41just to, I mean, I don't know that I'll turn the phone off,
00:44but make an effort to not have it with me,
00:47or be staring at it, because I get different text threads
00:54that are watching on different formats, cable or whatever,
00:57that's just faster, and, you know, I get messages,
01:02especially if Owen's at any of these games.
01:04The other night, I think maybe the Columbus game,
01:08he texted me, wait until you see this,
01:10and I sat for so long waiting for something to happen
01:16that I thought, oh, it must have been this save.
01:18No.
01:19Oh, no, here's the goal.
01:21I think when Tuck came out of the penalty box and scored,
01:23whatever game that was, was wait until you see this.
01:26Tampa.
01:27Yeah, okay.
01:27First goal of the game last Monday.
01:29Last Monday.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Wait until you see this.
01:31Look at me.
01:31And the play was in the Buffalo end for like 45 seconds.
01:35Like, what?
01:36What do I see?
01:36What?
01:37It's a nice save.
01:38Okay, that's it.
01:38No?
01:39Is there a goal?
01:39There's a goal.
01:40Oh, there's a goal.
01:40There's a goal.
01:41It can be so confusing if you're going back and forth like that.
01:46Yeah.
01:46Just, I mean, something a little bit ambiguous just can, like,
01:50oh, I think maybe something is about to happen here, but I don't know.
01:53Who wants to live like that?
01:54Yeah, we're going to have to be dark, I think.
01:56Well, you've got to figure out, you've got a week here almost to prepare.
02:02Figure out how to navigate that.
02:04No.
02:04Because you're going to have three or more different streaming services
02:09for the first round.
02:11ESPN has games.
02:13ESPN, I've learned, has a triple header on Saturday.
02:19And then a double header on Sunday.
02:22And TNT has its own double header on Sunday night.
02:27That's HBO.
02:28Mm-hmm.
02:29Right.
02:29Apparently, ABC has the NBA.
02:33So, there's no, like, yesterday.
02:36It was ABC day.
02:37It was ABC.
02:37But now that's the NBA.
02:39Or Saturday was, yeah.
02:40At least Sunday.
02:41Yeah.
02:41This coming Sunday.
02:43So, you've got ESPN and TNT, and that's probably no MSG, right?
02:49I.
02:50We wouldn't have a.
02:51It depends on how they designate the guy.
02:53I think if one of those carriers is carrying the game nationally,
02:56I think that that then pushes the local broadcast aside.
03:01Well, they all would be.
03:01I think they all would be.
03:03Yeah.
03:03TNT, for sure.
03:04Yeah.
03:04ESPN, I think, also.
03:05And that's seven games, and there are eight series.
03:11So, you're 87.5% to be on a national carrier.
03:15Yeah.
03:15Yes, I think so.
03:16What do you want?
03:20I mean, selfishly, what do I want?
03:22Because I'm going to be in Montana slash Wyoming.
03:26Oh, you're not the right person.
03:27I can't ask you.
03:28What I want is not Saturday afternoon.
03:33Because you'll be looking at moose.
03:34Or I guess I would say, for that matter, Sunday afternoon, too.
03:37Like, I don't want an afternoon game this weekend.
03:39Because that is the hardest.
03:41With the time difference, at least, I feel like I can maybe, especially Saturday.
03:48We've got a big day Saturday.
03:50My wife and I are going to Montana to stay on some fabulous five-star lodge.
03:55And we've got a guided tour, wildlife tour, whatever, of the park, early Saturday morning.
04:03And I feel like if the Sabres play Saturday night, I'm gold.
04:05Because that'll be from 5 a.m. to, like, 2 p.m.
04:09And we will, I'm sure, be pretty crushed from that.
04:13Like, that'll be nap time.
04:14And if the Sabres play at 7, ideally, or even 8 o'clock our time, that'll be...
04:20Saturday?
04:21Yeah, 5 o'clock out there.
04:23I think you have one route to that.
04:26And only one.
04:28Canadians.
04:29Yeah, right.
04:29To guarantee Saturday night.
04:31The games are 2, 5, and 8 Eastern on Saturday.
04:35P.m.
04:37And if you draw the Canadians, you'll be drawn into an 8 o'clock window for Sportsnet or to whomever
04:43up there is carrying it.
04:44Ottawa will be in the mix, but Montreal...
04:47Montreal would, for sure.
04:50Ottawa.
04:50So, you know, I was talking to Ryan Gates today.
04:53How do you like that guy?
04:55You never liked Ryan.
04:57I hate Ryan, to this day.
04:59So, I just texted him about...
05:01Sellout.
05:01We're in a league, a couple leagues together, fantasy leagues together.
05:05Four, four, four, four, four, four.
05:06Corporate Gates.
05:07Country Gates.
05:08Blank Gates.
05:09Frisky Gates is his fantasy.
05:11So, he's got a whole brand.
05:13And I was texting him because we're in a fantasy football thing together, and he texted the group.
05:19He's like, listen, it's got to work around the Sabres.
05:21I'm sorry.
05:22It's really hard to get 12 people together for a thing.
05:25But it's just...
05:26He's right.
05:26I mean, there are most of us.
05:28Maybe all of us would rather...
05:29Like, it's got to work around the Sabres.
05:30You don't want to be doing this during a Sabre game.
05:32No.
05:32So, I was texting him about that, and he's like, you don't know how much research I have
05:36done on this.
05:37And I think everything he's told me is probably right.
05:39And he's, you know, he's got links and different screen grabs and different things.
05:43So, he's got Saturday is ESPN 2, 5, and 8.
05:50And Montreal will be at 8 against whoever they play.
05:53So, if it's Sabres-Canadians, which is still possible, then get ready for Saturday night
05:58at 8.
05:58You know, he thinks.
05:59And I defer to Ryan.
06:00I totally agree.
06:01I was talking...
06:02I'm not talking to Ryan about this, and I've not done much research.
06:05But one conversation I did have over the weekend, pondering what...
06:09The only thing I feel, like, comfortable telling you definitively, and it's still just an opinion
06:13and a guess, but is if you draw Montreal, you're playing Saturday night at 8.
06:17Like, or 7, or whatever.
06:18You're playing Saturday night if you draw Montreal.
06:21Everything else to me is up in the air.
06:24Yes.
06:25And then we were talking about the rest of the schedule and, like, what feels sort of...
06:30You know, you might have Philadelphia at Pittsburgh here in round one.
06:34That's likely.
06:36Philadelphia is in a great spot.
06:38Where did that...
06:39How did that happen?
06:39I don't know.
06:40But they have Carolina tonight and Montreal tomorrow.
06:44And one win does it.
06:46They could clinch it tonight.
06:47I think you probably want them not to, so they're not all drunk for the Montreal game.
06:53Right.
06:53Tomorrow.
06:54Like, we want Carolina tonight, I think.
06:56Unless you think the Sabres can run them down.
06:58Is that even possible anymore?
06:59It may not be.
07:00I didn't look at that one.
07:02They could...
07:03They'd have to...
07:04You need Carolina not to get another point.
07:06You could tie them, and then you'd have the regulation win.
07:09You still have...
07:10You've already got...
07:10There's no way they can catch you on regulation wins.
07:12They have 38.
07:13Buffalo has 41.
07:15So that's a question.
07:15So that's still...
07:16If the Sabres win both of their games and Carolina lose both of theirs, then you could be the one
07:21seed.
07:22We should, you know, take a step back here and just talk about how the wild cards are set.
07:27Right.
07:28Well, they're set, but...
07:30Not the order.
07:30Right.
07:31They shuffled over the...
07:32I think yesterday morning, Ottawa was your potential opponent, and now it's back to Boston again.
07:37Boston won at Columbus in regulation.
07:41Ottawa lost to Jersey in overtime.
07:44I was listening to that game.
07:45Overtime goal.
07:45Yeah, all right.
07:46Yeah, I was.
07:47Matt Laughlin and Chico Resch.
07:49I had a bit of that on.
07:49Chico Resch, still out there.
07:50Chico Resch, still out there.
07:52Doing the work.
07:53Doing it.
07:53Yep.
07:55So right now it's Boston by a point.
07:59I mean, it's also fun and interesting, I think.
08:03Tonight, the Sabres don't start until 8.30.
08:06And Tampa plays Detroit at 7.
08:08At 7, and Detroit's dead.
08:10You're halfway through that game.
08:11Right.
08:11And you need...
08:12What do you need there?
08:14A couple things can get you through.
08:16A loss by Tampa and a win by you, you're gold.
08:18You've won the division, right?
08:20They're not losing.
08:21Right.
08:21I don't think so either.
08:22Detroit's dead.
08:23It's 10 years now.
08:24No playoffs.
08:25I mean, I just cannot see them mustering up any kind of desperation at all.
08:30But still, an overtime or shootout win for Tampa, coupled with a regulation win, still
08:37gets you there.
08:38The Sabres.
08:38So they have a couple different scenarios.
08:42First place clenched.
08:42First place clenched.
08:43Right.
08:45So as long as Tampa goes to overtime.
08:47Right.
08:47And the Sabres win.
08:49You're home.
08:49It's over.
08:50Is that right?
08:53I think that's right.
08:54Yeah.
08:54They're two points back.
08:57And that would...
08:58If I get two and they...
09:00Well, no, they get...
09:01Yeah.
09:01No, that's it.
09:02Yeah.
09:02As long as I have them on regulation wins.
09:04Two-point lead with one game left and they can't win the tiebreaker.
09:07Right.
09:07Wow.
09:10Also, Dallas-Toronto tonight.
09:12Dallas is expected to go with Casey DeSmith in goal.
09:15They're locked.
09:17They're locked as the two in the central.
09:20So Wednesday should not be...
09:22If you need Wednesday, you should be all set.
09:25Well, I don't know.
09:28Is this the same as Detroit and Tampa?
09:30Like, Dallas is really good.
09:32Yes, they are.
09:33The Sabres went...
09:34Right or wrong?
09:34Is this how you remember it?
09:36The Sabres went to Carolina in 06 for the last game of the year.
09:41Ooh.
09:42I don't remember this.
09:43And crushed them.
09:44Yeah.
09:44And it meant nothing.
09:45Yeah.
09:47Hmm.
09:47You never know in hockey.
09:48Yeah, that's right.
09:49But Dallas is probably going Ottinger on Wednesday because the playoffs will start on the weekend.
09:54Give him that game.
09:56Yeah.
09:56What do the Sabres do this week in goal?
09:59It's Lukanen tonight.
10:00I think if I need Wednesday, I think I play Lukanen.
10:05That's it.
10:06If you don't, then you won't.
10:07Yeah.
10:07If I don't, then yeah, then I won't.
10:09But then he goes a week almost without a game.
10:11Yeah, maybe.
10:12Well, he would.
10:14Play them both?
10:14Yeah, maybe you want to use them regardless.
10:18I don't know.
10:20But I like the idea of being able to slow play it here if Dallas, you know, if I lock
10:25it up tonight, then it doesn't matter.
10:26And you're right to stop me on like, I'll walk over Dallas.
10:30They are good.
10:30They just won't have anything to play for.
10:33And I can't imagine they won't be fielding a lineup that's like, you know, a third AHL
10:37guys.
10:38Well, who knows?
10:39I mean, is this seems different to me.
10:42And I'll give myself a little bit of some lenience because it's been so long since the
10:47Sabres have been in.
10:48But they have eight extras or so.
10:52Yeah.
10:52They lost Lyon.
10:54Ellis was one of the eight or so extras that they had.
10:57But they have like a third of a team in the press box.
11:01Yeah, they've got a deep pair and I think an entire forward line at least.
11:05Does everybody have that?
11:07I think, yeah.
11:08Once the deadline comes and goes and the rosters expand, then you get extra bodies.
11:15There's no roster limitation.
11:16I learned that when we were talking about, I don't know, something with Mets or something
11:21going up and down.
11:21Like, it doesn't matter.
11:22It's not a numbers thing anymore.
11:23You can have, I don't know if it's as many guys as you want, but there's whatever.
11:27They're not in danger of going over a limit.
11:29No, fine.
11:30But you're assuming then that everybody would have the same.
11:34Dallas would have a team of eight black aces.
11:37I'm assuming that, yes.
11:38Yes.
11:39I could be wrong in assuming that, but I think that's how you start playing at this time of
11:44the year.
11:44I think what you do is, everybody plays except guys that are battling injuries.
11:50Like, if the Sabres get to Wednesday and have the division, it's all set.
11:56There's nothing to play for on Wednesday.
11:57They've clinched the division but have no chance at Carolina.
12:00Then maybe Thompson sits.
12:02Maybe Tuck sits.
12:03Right.
12:04On Wednesday, you know, for the rest.
12:06Yep.
12:06This is, it's so interesting and fun for me because everything here is like a form of
12:12the Bills conversations we've been having for almost a decade now.
12:15And what you would do, does Josh Allen play?
12:19Does James Cook play?
12:20Well, he goes back in to get the touchdown record.
12:22Then he comes out.
12:23Like, what chances do you take with the lineup?
12:26It's not a given that Wednesday will be this situation, but it's possible.
12:31You win the night, and Tampa doesn't, and like, that's it.
12:36Right.
12:36So then, and Carolina wins.
12:37So there's nothing, literally nothing you can change in the standings on Wednesday if
12:42that certain scenario happens, then okay, like, who comes out?
12:47And maybe that's a few guys.
12:49Maybe Dallas is in the same situation, but Dallas is already there, and they play tonight
12:54in Toronto.
12:56I'm so far down the hole now with what Dallas' lineup is going to be.
13:01And they've had, they've had, like, Heiskanen's not playing currently.
13:06Like, I don't know that he's been ruled out for Wednesday already, but over the weekend
13:10I knew he wasn't playing, and so that's someone they're trying to, you know, protect.
13:14I doubt they, unless they want to get him a game, if he's healthy.
13:17I don't know.
13:18Rupe Hintz was another guy, like, somewhat important guy that also was battling.
13:23I think, I have no idea what you're going to see Wednesday, lineup-wise.
13:28All I know is that Dallas will have, already today, we know, they will have nothing to
13:32play for on Wednesday.
13:34Because they are, whatever, six points ahead of third place, so they're locked in.
13:38They can't catch Colorado.
13:39They are locked into a first-round series.
13:42Really, they were locked into a first-round series with Minnesota since Thanksgiving.
13:47And it really was just a matter of who was going to be home and who was going to be
13:50away.
13:50That was it.
13:51One of the least interesting races in hockey this year was that division.
13:56It was over.
13:57Colorado was just so far out in front.
13:59Those other two teams were excellent.
14:00They were separated from, there was no real battle for the top three in that division.
14:04I am grateful that that has not been our experience.
14:07Right.
14:07We've had.
14:08Because that's boring.
14:08We've had it changing every few hours, it feels like.
14:12We're down to Game 81, and who knows?
14:14Right.
14:14The wild card thing is mostly settled.
14:16There's no Detroit anymore.
14:18There's no Islanders anymore.
14:20Right.
14:21Somebody could still, right?
14:22It's whether somebody can displace Philadelphia in third in the metro is all that's left.
14:26Right.
14:27Or they could.
14:28Which doesn't matter to the Sabres at all.
14:30Right.
14:30Right.
14:31And I think that that, does that mean, no, they can't even catch the wild cards.
14:35So, yeah, that's it.
14:36There's third place.
14:38It's Boston or Ottawa.
14:39Right.
14:39And Philadelphia is battling Washington and Columbus.
14:42Those are the only other two teams alive.
14:43If the Sabres fall to second or third, they play the team that finished second or third.
14:47That isn't them.
14:48If they finish first, they get Boston or Ottawa.
14:50They already can't fall to third.
14:52They are.
14:52They can't fall to third?
14:53They cannot fall to third.
14:56Sure?
14:58Yeah.
14:58I feel like that happened over the weekend.
15:00So, they're at home game one no matter what.
15:02They're at home no matter what.
15:03I think the lowest they can go is the two.
15:04All right.
15:06Which would mean that they will start, if you're right, and I'm sure you are, that they will
15:12start.
15:13I think they need to win tonight.
15:14Sorry.
15:15I think I'm mistaken.
15:17Hang on, everybody.
15:18I'm just looking at the points, and I'm realizing it.
15:20If you didn't know, and we'll tell you, this is so hard.
15:23Montreal can get to 108, and the Sabres are at 106.
15:26Right.
15:27So, win tonight.
15:28They both could get to 108.
15:29Right.
15:29Tampa and Montreal.
15:30You're not there yet.
15:31Right.
15:31You can still finish third.
15:32Right.
15:33Good.
15:34That's what I thought.
15:34If you finish first or second, Sabres, they will host game one in a playoff series for
15:45only the ninth time in 35 years.
15:522010, Boston.
15:562007, three times, Islanders, Rangers, Ottawa.
16:012006, Philadelphia, round one.
16:04Then, to the road.
16:062001, second round, Pittsburgh, Lemieux.
16:1398, Montreal, second round, Barnaby.
16:1997, Ottawa, Derek Plant.
16:23Have I missed one?
16:25Somebody tell me if I have.
16:26I count eight series since 1990.
16:311990, they opened at home.
16:32So, 91 to now.
16:3435 years.
16:3536 seasons.
16:37Well, one was canceled.
16:3835 seasons.
16:40You counted 0-1 second round.
16:43They were on the road for game one?
16:45And then home for round two?
16:47Okay.
16:47Yes.
16:48They went to Philadelphia in the first round, and they won there.
16:53And they ended up winning in six, at home, eight to nothing.
16:58So, game six was that 0-1 Flyer series.
17:01Eight to nothing.
17:02Where I saw Lauren Hart in the hallway on the way to the locker room to do interviews.
17:09This is a memory.
17:10Standing next to Bobby Clark.
17:11And I went, oh, Lauren Hart.
17:12Which I loved, because I maybe made Bobby Clark feel bad.
17:16Just after watching his team lose eight to nothing.
17:20Yeah.
17:21So, Saturday, four games.
17:24Sunday, three.
17:26No.
17:27Backwards.
17:27Saturday, three games.
17:29All ESPN, we believe.
17:30Sunday, four.
17:32Two ESPN, then two TNT.
17:34One series won't start until Monday, at least.
17:37Because nobody's going back-to-back there.
17:39Right.
17:39I mean, that's 100%?
17:42Yes, absolutely.
17:44So, seven out of eight series will start on ESPN or TNT, Saturday or Sunday.
17:49And, you know, probably you're one of them.
17:51There are six regular season games in the league Thursday.
17:57All involving Western teams.
17:58All 12 teams that play on Thursday are from the West.
18:02So, you would think, plus because of the time zone, Saturday afternoon is 2 o'clock.
18:09That's Boston-Buffalo.
18:11That's Philadelphia-Pittsburgh.
18:14You know, Carolina and something like that.
18:17Saturday night, we think, is probably Montreal against whoever.
18:20Right.
18:21And then the gamut on Sunday.
18:24So, exciting.
18:26We'll look for your calls next.
18:28803-0550.
18:29What do you want?
18:30Who do you want?
18:30That's still on the table because we don't know yet.
18:34Four teams are possible.
18:35We're down to four.
18:36Lightning, Canadians, Bruins, Senators.
18:39Paul Hamilton at 4 o'clock.
18:41We hope to get Brian Kozio in later, but it's not 100%.
18:45وي.com
18:45All right.
18:45We'll go.
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