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00:03we want to really underscore just how serious this wildfire season is it's
00:10nightmarish it's walls of flame now we have no helicopters whatsoever I am
00:16freaking exhausted I got one nerve left and you're on it we're trying to go
00:20north through an area that's basically an emergency situation and everybody's
00:25coming south at the same time I'm extremely excited about this scan data like I think
00:31there's so much that we can do if we keep asking the questions we can get closer to
00:36the truth of it's real or not this could potentially prove if the rune stone is a
00:41fake or if it's real with the magnetometer we found some interesting disturbed sites
00:46over here we have threads of a mystery that we're trying to weave together and
00:51it's really interesting to see where that goes you get used to being on the
00:56edge of something where things could go terribly wrong our thing has really just
01:00been doing something exciting we tend to do the hard stuff and the fun stuff it's
01:06rewarding in the end
01:43as the planning continues Edward rejoins the team and goes over results from their trip to Alexandria
01:50Minnesota to see the infamous Kensington rune stone okay Edward what do you got here so I've got four
01:56scans here these are the two high resolution scans this one being the highest resolution scan and these
02:02were just two kind of backup quick scans I think one of these were the ones that we did when
02:07the cover
02:07was still on these are the first scans done in high quality of the rune stone since 2008 Olaf was
02:15a
02:15settler in Minnesota in the late 1800s was a farmer he was clearing his land pulls up a tree finds
02:22a rune
02:23stone underneath it that's a pretty incredible story unfortunately he's also a fellow who could
02:29actually understand what that was he looks at it and goes hey that's a rune stone but he actually was
02:35from a country that makes rune stones he's credible because there doesn't seem to be any motive for being
02:42notoriously hated by everybody for saying it's a hoax and there's no upside if it's real
02:50this would be the outside of the stone and if we flip it around that's the inside that's the inside
02:55the double-sided scan is interesting to us because you can give that data to runologists and to people
03:04who are familiar with how you carve runes to have a discussion about how were they constructed if the
03:10Kensington rune stone is in fact authentic it could be related to the lost Viking can the team is
03:17searching for in the north you can see a lot of things that are going on that you can see
03:22more detail
03:23yeah can you see more from the back can you shadow it because now they're I wish I would say
03:29from the
03:29back you would have way more detail because now you can now you can really see the depth of all
03:34of the
03:34characters there's a skills and experience to getting good data he knows how to do that so we
03:40can give good information to archaeologists and researchers for next phase depending on what we
03:46find so yeah we took a look at the scans I actually looked into the technology that was used when
03:52the
03:52stone was first scanned it's a very old technology that they used it's still similar to one of the
03:59scanners that I used I could use a structured light but that the accuracy over like where are we two
04:05decades later now is tremendously increased the scans reveal a level of detail on the rune stone never
04:13seen before all the foam and probably cleaned it out with a nail or something or a file or a
04:21point of a
04:21file or something to clean it up because it's going to be covered with with mud and you know grit
04:27and
04:27everything else when he pulls it up when we were up in Barron's River and found that thing on the
04:31rock you know it took the snow to it oh yeah months earlier the team was in Barron's River looking
04:39for
04:40white man's writing on a rock a carved stone that would confirm ancient Norse travel in the area with
04:48a guide's help they found a rock with writings carved in it buried in snow but it wasn't the mysterious
04:54white man's writing on a rock there's a number part of a number and he thinks I'm joking so we
05:07dig a
05:07little bit we only see it because there's snow in the cut in the rock the cut in the numbers
05:12and the
05:12cut of the letters it's the only we'd walk by it a hundred times in the summertime never see it
05:19uh 1944 I'm telling SRAB that is a needle in a freaking haystack right there
05:29how would Olaf have known how to fake this because this seems like not the language that they used
05:36back then and he was a farmer right he decided to forge something he had a book on runes and
05:42then the
05:43runes gave him a basis like a dictionary he used the dictionary to write this out and I am not
05:50a
05:50rune expert there are many people that are and they argue about some of the way things are written in
05:56here like that dotted R is a big one and it shows up other places the AVM that's Latin you
06:03know it's a
06:04religious thing like our ancestors the ones that came over in the thousand AD they were already
06:09Catholics they were already religious they weren't pagans anymore they'd gone to other countries they
06:15spoke different languages they were familiar with Latin Olaf's story about the stone never changed even
06:22though his family faced ridicule from skeptics over the years this is a pretty complicated story if you
06:28had a six years of education moved your family here you're a farmer why would you do this and why
06:35would you build this story around people dying and boats and travel it was fairly clear that it was
06:42entangled in the roots of a tree that were at least 20 or 30 years old at the time and
06:47he'd only been
06:48there for a few years that's why he's cleaning the land right yeah so how did he get it into
06:52a tree get
06:53roots wrapped around it then miraculously find it you know he benefited in no monetary way and no he
07:00wasn't seeking fame or fortune it personally it did none of it turned out very well for his family at
07:06all he probably wished he'd never seen the damn thing and you look at it and you think okay why
07:11that story it's an odd story with specific things I can almost guarantee you even with Google and all
07:19the access we have to everything we can do today I would have a hard time thinking of the story
07:24and
07:25creating this and burying it under a tree only to turn it up 30 years from now like you can
07:31kind
07:31of just see like like there's a there's a there's a hip or yeah hip hip hip hip like they're
07:36there and
07:37then they're everywhere we measured a few of them and they're all the same distance in between each
07:43other and you look at all like look at this one right like it has a hip hip hip hip
07:48hip hip right like
07:49it just it's very consistent I have an open mind because and that's why we're doing this expedition
07:54because we want to use new technology and continue asking people for input to keep
08:02the discussion going Scandinavian or Viking exploration before Christopher Columbus isn't
08:07a very popular research topic for anybody but the fact that he owned that story from the moment he
08:11found it and never wavered ever and none of his family did either really makes me believe that it
08:17is real as much as someone thinks it's a hoax that's a pretty elaborate hoax to basically ruin your
08:22family for for generations at some point you'd think you'd just tell people it was fake if it
08:28was actually fake they never did if we keep asking the questions we can get closer to the truth of
08:34it's
08:34real or not I understand how it it's very coincidental that a guy who had a rune stone book has
08:40a rune in
08:41his yard the science is moving along where it's not saying it's a fake so the the research doesn't say
08:48absolutely 100 percent no so the possibility is still open I'm extremely excited about this scan
08:55data like I think there's so much that we can do like we can go 3d scan the chisels and
09:00we can put
09:00them into the 3d models and we can see if they match up all the markings these scans are really
09:06important
09:06to us because the Kensington rune stone puts a stick in the North America if they're real the 1320 penny
09:13actually connects if the if the Kensington rune stone is fake it's just crazy coincidence there's
09:19a 1320 penny on the shores of the Red River and there's all these metal artifacts within hundreds
09:24of miles of Kensington these rune stone scans can make all the difference in the world this could
09:30potentially prove if the rune stone is a fake or if it's real Joe and David review the data that
09:43Edward obtained while scanning the Kensington rune stone in Alexandria Minnesota the data can
09:49potentially break new ground in the history of Norse settlers in North America or it could disprove its
09:56authenticity this is a big moment I'm I'm like you can see my smile ear to ear those dots are
10:05the
10:05the thing this is the end of something else yeah good question for Janie she's looked at this so much
10:10I think well I'm really glad we did this scan because it gives us data to share with people who
10:16are focusing
10:18on this and it's in its message because it's there's a lot of artifacts have been found you know in
10:25a
10:25couple hundred mile radius from this thing that are hard to explain there's a couple reasons why
10:33people think the rune stone is a hoax the rune stone is in a weird place it's in the middle
10:37of Minnesota so
10:38Olaf Oman not only had a book of runes in his house he's from a country that did that it's
10:45odd that a
10:46northern Scandinavian person found a rune stone the the analysis after that with the language and the and how
10:53things were made in the age of the rock it's easy to go not the right language and the right
11:00spelling
11:00the right construction of the runes and that's what I'm really looking forward to finding more
11:04about from our research in Alexandria but there's no reason that it couldn't be real they could have
11:10been there they could have carved it they could have left it there could have been done he could
11:14have found it no doubt he cleaned it out with a nail that he had in the barn so he
11:17could read it better
11:18maybe somebody chisel we already know it's been in the museum and that have in the hands of the
11:22Smithsonian it's been copied twice plaster Paris once and and some and plastic material other times
11:31maybe cleaned with with solvents maybe oiled maybe who knows what happened to this thing there's no
11:37reason that it could not be real what would be a good thing to do is get 3d models of
11:42the chisels
11:42that they used in those eras there were both eras and then we can use those we can compare them
11:50to
11:50this 3d model and see if we can find where those chisel marks are while in Minnesota the Faraheim team
11:58used an XR scanner to analyze several artifacts for possible links to the Kensington rune stone scans of
12:06a draw knife showed it to be nearly pure iron suggesting it was produced through a smelting
12:12process similar to early Norse metalworking the scans don't confirm anything but they offered
12:19enough intriguing details for the team to keep the artifact in consideration next Johan heads to
12:29Minneapolis to acquire a drone with lidar capabilities that will assist in mapping the terrain
12:37lidar technology is similar to radar as it interprets pulses sent back from a surface to
12:44create a digital 3d model lidar is just lasers measuring a distance right so it doesn't matter
12:50what unit is coming from whether it's air land or sea you're just trying to measure that point in
12:55space and time just like every other drone you see flying around someone's doing a little radio
13:00control with it with a sensor underneath it and it's just shooting light at the ground lots of
13:07little dots of light and then it's collecting the reflection back basically to make a map
13:14straight up to take off and I like to get some height it's got to remember the front is where
13:20the
13:20sensor is this technology would really just expedite your efforts in looking for something that is
13:30potentially under you know tree canopy Katie is a familiar face to the Faraheim team she was with
13:37them months ago in the back of the utility vehicle when it broke through the ice so you can see
13:44we have
13:44this nice pulsing green or a steady green that means good we're still collecting data lidar allows some
13:51of the most accurate terrain mapping available the process data will help the team plan their route
13:56ahead of time by seeing obstructions and dangers in the way this will save them hours or more in prep
14:04work for the next day's outing so you can imagine if they had gone out and tried to shoot this
14:09with GPS
14:09oh you know traditional survey gear number one they would have been like they would not have been able to
14:16get this level of detail whatsoever there are groups online who are actually scanning through where ancient
14:23Roman sites are because you can see them with lidar Lanzo Meadow when they found it it just looked like
14:28a
14:28little dirt pile until they started excavating it and going like holy smokes there is an actual village here a
14:34thousand
14:34years ago well really really appreciate you spending the time with us training me up on all the
14:41technology I hope to do you proud my pleasure meanwhile Joe and David get a video call from Mark at
14:52OKM
14:52about what the results from using ground penetrating radar on various sites around Alexandria show
14:59I put together a slide that shows the difference between a great site that's 150 years old and one that
15:09is
15:10more modern and I put those kind of side by side to help everyone visualize the difference that you see
15:18in the
15:19the characteristics of the anomaly and also what what they look like you know after 150 years versus seven years
15:29Mark's technology looks for disturbances in dirt so if you're just looking at the dirt around you over time
15:37it sinks and has a certain density and if right now we dug a grave we disturb the dirt and
15:44put something in it
15:45and put the dirt back on it it looks different when you scan it it's interesting we've definitely I
15:56think with the magnetometer we found some interesting disturbed sites over here or let's say disturbed
16:01soil so that definitely gives me the impression that you know there has been activity here with the GPR
16:09this morning with the site that we did down the hill for the ballast stones I think the data that
16:15we had
16:16from that scan really would suggest that it's worth further investigation but definitely if it were me and
16:24I were in a position of power over this facility this site I would want to do some additional excavation
16:31and see okay water what is that I think the technology definitely delivered it made our job easier I don't
16:39think it
16:39did our job for us but I think it made it a lot more efficient and faster we would have
16:43never known
16:44if anything was actually in that ground that Ralph had said if we didn't have that unless we were digging
16:48and as I increase the density there's definitely is that a box that's well it's a major it's a real
16:57hit
16:57right kind of here below the device we have threads of a mystery that we're trying to weave together and
17:06it's really interesting to see where that goes
17:14and you can see here we've got two pretty strong hits right on the first line of the scan that
17:24we did this
17:24was right at the edge of the parking lot so we feel pretty strongly that there are two um disturbed
17:31areas right there whether or not they were graves it's not clear but definitely the soil in those
17:37two areas has been disturbed considerably similar to what we saw with the grave site though the scans
17:45indicate anomalies below the surface they are still inconclusive so if it was an ancient burial they would have
17:53been buried in not in boxes likely just maybe wrapped or something or maybe not even wrapped just clothing
17:59would they be hard enough to give you that sort of return yeah the bones with the uh the bones
18:05will give us um
18:07our 60 and 300 megahertz will attenuate from the the human bones okay so we will you would see a
18:15signal from the bones in this case you've got a seven foot area it's mainly a seven by seven area
18:22foot area that where we're getting a strong echo excavating the site is the only way the findings can be
18:30confirmed
18:31i'll just pass the information on to the uh ralph and the kensington runestone park people and they can
18:38uh decide if they want to go get a permit and do some digging mark presents more promising results to
18:45joe and david
18:46so that was the location uh where uh ralph uh identified uh like a ship should have been that
18:54uh would have rotted away we've got three feet from top to bottom we were guided to different spots and
19:01we collected data and uh some of the spots were uh potentially ballast stones weirdly there were ballast
19:09stone sized rocks under there this would be also an interesting place to start when you look at the
19:16the top straight on the top you see it's more or less on the perimeter we've got the same about
19:23six
19:23and a half feet of target area looking at it from the top we look at it from the side
19:30it's a more of a stratified
19:32area to me this looks actually more as if it's rocks or something i would expect this to be similar
19:41to
19:41the potentially the ballast stones if they were gathered in one area pretty tightly let's say in
19:48the heel of the ship then this is the type of arrangement or type of echo i would expect to
19:56see
19:56with ballast stones in the bottom of a ship ralph a long time alexandria resident asserts there is an
20:04ancient viking ship buried under the ground the group of the potential ballast stones help to support
20:11that idea if that's what they are what i'm seeing here is not consistent with everything else you see
20:18on the surface in this part of minnesota the results aren't conclusive and it's still impossible to
20:24verify without digging up the area however mark's data reveals something of interest is there and
20:31that's enough to keep the faraheim team and others searching for the truth well there are other teams
20:38working on following this story some of them have found things it needs more research and that's one
20:43of the things we're trying to do if we can come up with more facts and data that show there
20:47could be
20:48something there we can invigorate more formal archaeological research thanks for coming on this
20:54journey with us with only a day to go the faraheim team is hit with more bad news we want
21:06to really
21:07underscore just how serious this wildfire season is after months of planning a northern expedition is
21:14suddenly up in the air and causing stress within the faraheim team how's it going with the planning
21:22because i heard uh we don't have helicopters anymore i am freaking exhausted i got one nerve left and
21:28you're on it
21:34it's one day before the faraheim team's long-awaited trip but they've run into another setback one that
21:42could jeopardize the entire expedition
21:45the thing about planning is there's always a risk 15 000 people have been forced to leave their homes
21:51because of wildfires it's nightmarish one of mackenzie's friends is a police officer up there
21:59and has been sending pictures and it's walls of flame
22:04just got into manitoba here and it sounds like manitoba's burning so we've got it on the on the east
22:11side of manitoba in the white shell the noping park we've got the fires on the on the west side
22:16up in
22:18the paw up in sheridan up in the evacuated flin flan
22:24we had everything organized to get wheeled aircraft into a lodge heli lifted to the windy bay site
22:31that disappeared because we can't get a helicopter couldn't get the right helicopter then we had a
22:35secondary helicopter then that completely fell apart we were going to go in the winter i wish we
22:42had because we were going to go on ice the snow is four feet deep deepest snow in 40 years
22:47so we waited
22:48for that jd went up and had a look and and uh with a local lodge operator and he was
22:57waist deep in snow
22:58and because the snow is so deep the ice was thin so we wait for the snow to go down
23:02and the ice is too
23:03thin now we can't get in on the ice on skis do i sound like i'm a complainer or not
23:09our expeditions are normally going down a river or going to some place because we don't go where
23:16forced fires are because we don't want to get trapped it's making it very tough because we're
23:21trying to go north through an area that's basically an emergency situation and everybody's coming south
23:26at the same time we don't normally have to deal with this we can't do anything about it down here
23:33but it's definitely changed our plans all the crews are gone all the helicopters all the airplanes
23:38aren't available manitoba is in the middle of one of the province's worst wildfire outbreaks homes
23:45have been lost wildlife displaced and communities evacuated or on the verge everybody's on fire we had
23:55everything organized we were so smooth until we weren't the government declares a state of emergency
24:02all the planning the team has done for their northern expedition so far is likely to change
24:08it's the worst evacuation in 70 years and there's tens of thousands of people moving and losing their
24:16homes the biggest evacuation of civilians since the 1950 flood so we're looking at like 20 000 people
24:22and we have a huge smoke problem so now not only we just layer these things one on top of
24:27the other
24:28so okay that plans out let's have a new plan every helicopter and aircraft that could help battle the
24:37fire is in use or on standby for evacuations and medical emergencies the team's options are limited
24:46now the helicopter option we had it until just a few days ago now we have no helicopters whatsoever we
24:52can
24:52get in on floats well then try and find a float airplane but on floats they don't carry that much
24:57because it is three hours from thompson it's a long way past the manitoba border we're going to leave
25:04a lot of our tents behind because we have the opportunity to stay in an out camp actually that's been
25:10ravaged by bears an out camp or outlying camp is positioned away from a main camp when bears awaken
25:18from hibernation they immediately start looking for food and an out camp is an ideal first stop i talked
25:25to a couple of guys that were there a couple of years ago they had a a big bearing ground
25:29grizzly
25:29try and get into their cabin the little shack they were staying in and they opened the door and he
25:34sat
25:34there like a big buddha and he was a big gentleman and he just wasn't in any hurry to go
25:39away the team
25:40adds safety precautions in case they run into any bears in the wilderness the best way to deal with
25:47unpredictable bears is to avoid them if that's not possible making as much noise as you can in the
25:54woods is critical as is having bear spray and shotguns as backup if they show up you got to be
26:02ready to defend yourself it's not the first line of defense to go shooting a grizzly bear it's to scare
26:08them away and to make them realize you're just not a target of opportunity and you're not their next meal
26:16we're staying in a cabin that's been ravaged by bears almost certainly a grizzly bear in the past
26:24been here for three days now we've generated enough cooking smells that the local bear
26:31proprietor of the establishment here has come to see who's in this cabin
26:37it came up looked at the ridge sat up looked at us you could see the huge big hump on
26:42the guy
26:45the team retreats into the cabin for safety aware that if the bear wants to get inside it will
26:52it's a good reminder for everyone to be vigilant and conscious of the wildlife surrounding them
26:58no running you know when you see a bear don't run away face the bear look the bear check the
27:03bear's
27:03behavior okay number one thing is if it's a bearing ground grizzly
27:09if if he's coming to investigate he's coming to investigate we're not going to be able to harass
27:13him enough to push him off like a black bear he's going to be sticking around here so we just
27:17have
27:17to be mindful of that it is decided that when the team is on the move one person will always
27:25have
27:25a shotgun just in case how many of us can carry a gun well you you know how to handle
27:32them jd knows
27:33how to handle him he and i will be armed all the time david can handle them i'd prefer nobody
27:38else
27:38grabs a gun if they unless they have to unless the bear's got me then grab a gun and shoot
27:43me shoot
27:44something you know but i doubt if that's going to happen and i tell everybody and we all have the
27:50same
27:51sort of um understanding if the bear's not chewing on the end of your gun or he's not chewing on
27:55a
27:55person then he's fine you know scare him away shoot the rubber bullets at him whatever do not kill the
28:01bear we're going to have to sort of shovel debris out safe warm dry we're going to shed all our
28:10tents
28:11to save weight there might be propane on site so we can shed gas for the coleman stove using the
28:18out
28:18camp allows the team to pack lighter and more efficiently and not get bogged down transporting
28:24unessential equipment joe realizes that they will need to secure fuel for the trip aircrafts
28:31fighting the forest fires are rightfully taking the priority so acquiring fuel is a challenge fuel is
28:37the light blood of that whole thing you can go without a meal for a day but you can't go
28:41out with
28:42a gallon of gas when you have no place to go right or we get stuck someplace you just need
28:46to be
28:46self-sufficient because you're a couple hundred miles from 300 miles from any major community
28:52it takes hours to get to and from various points in the north even by plane they can't handle a
28:59lot
28:59of weight meaning only the necessary gear fuel and personnel are allowed adding to these considerations
29:07is the dense fog enveloping the province which will make landing and taking off extremely difficult
29:13and we're having to go way east in manitoba to avoid the smoke because the visibility is down to
29:18a quarter mile in smoke it's really hard to fly in the quarter mile it does if you're unless you're
29:24flying on instruments which most of these smaller aircraft cannot do so the fires themselves have
29:29caused some peripheral problems for us but they themselves the only problem with them is the smoke
29:38because now we have visibility problems we've got visibility down to a quarter mile
29:45some of the other places we looked at flying out the roads are closed now the team majorly modifies
29:50their travel plans for the northern expedition because of the record-breaking wildfires throughout manitoba
29:58but we still can get to thompson it would be very unfortunate if thompson gets cut off because that's
30:06where everyone's evacuating to that would be a horrible thing fortunately we are well north of where
30:12the fires the closest fire to us is probably 250 or 300 miles by going through the city of thompson
30:19which is in north central manitoba they will avoid the dangerous fires and uh our team will be
30:25through thompson into thompson by thursday and it looks like the way the fires are going and the
30:31weather's going they'll be safe and they'll get there we're going to have fog we're going to have
30:35rain it could still be you know miserable freaking conditions however we should be golden in terms of
30:41safety we're not going to get burned out we're not going to have to evacuate the route we're taking
30:45and the aircraft we're taking aren't uh taking away any resources from evacuating people
30:50while also not putting our team into the way of the fire because we're going east and then north of
30:56it the change of aircraft requires a new weight calculation of what they can bring and how many
31:02trips it will take today jd is uh weighing all this all the equipment because every pound it's not how
31:09much you can fit in an airplane it's how much the load load it can carry is all poundage
31:14the team continues planning the northern trip the manitoba provincial wildfire forces joe and david
31:21to reassess every aspect of the trip from transportation food supplies and people
31:29okay so we're right here right now winnipeg we're way up here the manitoba borders here
31:36lodge is here windy bay camp is right up here herne bay is kind of halfway in between actually it's
31:41uh south of hidden valley location i'll get a bigger map since we've got this map out let's
31:47i'll get a hold of jj he's out weighing equipment and trying to get the load because it's it's
31:51continuously changed so the sort of three flights we have organized now i'll get him in here he can
31:56tell us who's going where and what they're doing this final expedition is testing the faraheim team
32:04like no other expedition before the pressure they've put on themselves to find the lost cairn
32:11is immense how's it going with weighing the equipment because man we can shed weight now we're really
32:16really heavy go up to david's looking at the herne bay roads to the east and to the west
32:23are ablaze this road right now is not because it's open for evacuation the wildfires are closing almost all
32:31transportation routes into and out of northern and central manitoba most often there is only one
32:37road in and one road out once you get far enough north the roads end entirely most of the fires
32:46are
32:46here prevailing winds are here we've got to avoid the smoke here so we got to get through the smoke
32:50to
32:51get to here once we're up here we should be golden because everything's south of us and we get out
32:56of
32:56the tree line there are no fires currently burning up here the risk of significant injuries is there
33:03but we've got a way to support that and medevac people out from the health and safety side you know
33:10from the logistics side weather and planes weather goes bad and planes break so we have three sets of
33:19airlifts going in what are you taking in i'm taking in enough gear that we're going to be able to
33:25survive so one thing we should check in the next couple days is what the weather forecast is going
33:30to be up there because it's all low rainy stuff it's going to rain yeah you can get in there
33:35but
33:35you're going to be miserable that's what's going to happen if we get rain up north you can see how
33:39this morning you couldn't see across the river now it looks like a normal summer day if we get this
33:45we're made in the shade or made in the sun depending on how you look at it
33:49even in all this planning thoughts turn to the task at hand finding the can what's the resolution
33:56of the lidar i'd have to look at the specs like where i'm going with this is we're looking for
34:00something that's we think six to ten feet by six to ten feet by six feet tall whatever that turns
34:06like
34:06a couple meters by a couple meters by two or three meters will that software actually go hey here's
34:11something that meets that no or do you actually have to go through every single thing you can give it
34:16parameters to see things within that range so you could have it so that hey show me what's in a
34:24range
34:24that you think what we need to see is going to be visible right so you can clear off treetops
34:29or in
34:30the reverse you could also clear off low-lying ground so you can only see high points yeah which is
34:36what
34:36you're asking essentially the problem we may have is you know the report is from 90 years ago
34:43mm-hmm and the uh and what's rotted since or or been disassembled or fallen over you know so we're
34:51thinking a cube you know or something with you know flat sides and may not be that anymore is it
34:57going
34:57to be 15 20 minutes of just going like you know that looks like something that looks like something
35:01or how are we going to be able to identify yeah like like i mean the the longest part is
35:05going to be
35:06the computation of actually processing the data itself after that you're going to get your full
35:12point cloud mesh and you'll be able to then identify what you think is a potential search area
35:17all we need is uh the weather to cooperate so it doesn't go down to zero zero all through the
35:22north
35:23should we go look at gear yeah let's go away some gear the team will make some difficult decisions on
35:29what gear they can afford to bring on this trip having just received permission to stay at the
35:35out camp will allow them to pack less camping gear and bring other essential items one of the things
35:42johan's been doing as logistics manager for the trip is once we leave that's all we've got it's what
35:49we need to get up there what we need to do the searching and what we need to live i
35:55know we have to
35:55shed weight and we have the opportunity to shed weight so how much weight did we shed with the
36:00tents yeah you know what the cots weigh 20 pounds each 10 cots 200 pounds oh it's been terrible wow
36:06the
36:06weight just adds up the pictures i've seen of the of the of the place we're not going to need
36:11cots
36:12no cots nope it's all bunks a sleeping bag if it's eight pounds by 10 it's 80 pounds they're safer
36:19than
36:19tents so we don't have to worry so much about bear uh perimeter guards and and you know patrols or
36:25anything like that so so the great unknown is the mosquitoes now mother nature may not cooperate and
36:32and mechanical stuff might break but we've got a place to stay where we're all going to be safe
36:38the budget for this trip will also have to be carefully watched if no one is paying attention to
36:44even just the flight or fuel costs it will quickly put the whole operation in jeopardy so we save about
36:5024 000 going in 24 000 going out and we've got to get a caravan twice out of winnipeg so
36:57that adds but
36:58we're still down probably 75 80 000 from original budget while planning for a successful trip they
37:06must also plan for the worst case scenario at the same time neglecting to bring even one vital piece
37:13of equipment could end the trip early we've had nine changes in the last like three days being on the
37:20edge of something where things could go terribly wrong which is not a great experience
37:30we're searching for viking evidence of viking exploration on the hudson bay coast we do have
37:34the opportunity to do some original research that's going to be really interesting from
37:38what we've learned about the cairn and farley moat and the peoples up there we have fires burning out
37:44of control and now we can't get helicopters okay let's do something else well we need something to
37:49get us around let's use the cessna 185 on floats we have three sets of airlifts going in a place
37:57to stay
37:57where we're all going to be safe we've got enough food and water to survive fishing's going to be awesome
38:03and i know that jj and joe are going to fix it and i know it's going to be good
38:07and i trust the
38:08crew that we're going with we've had to eliminate a couple of folks we'd like to have with us because
38:12we just don't have the lifting capacity for them no space or no way to get them around once we
38:17get
38:17there but we've got all the core things guys look what i got i got the flag hey mac oh
38:25sweet oh that
38:27thing has seen some things yeah this one's uh been in circulation for a while 1937 seen some what's
38:34the writing in the back side here what's that say it tells uh it says afghanistan mackenzie brings out
38:41an old explorers club flag the flag was awarded to the faraheim team to commemorate this trip
38:48ce fox 1937 probably the first time it went out yeah that's the first flicks it's been repaired look at
38:56that it really was in bad shape the explorers club is a prestigious globally recognized organization
39:03founded in 1904 that supports and promotes scientific exploration and research around the world and
39:10beyond the explorers club is a organization with its headquarter in new york that has been in around
39:17for 120 years and it focuses on being the world leader in exploration in support of science and it
39:23really focuses on learning more about the planet and helping people get there so you have to apply and
39:29have to have a good reason to do it it has to be scientific it can't just be you're on
39:33a tour you
39:34can't go on a on a arctic you know tour boat to the north pole it doesn't qualify you can't
39:40be hunting in
39:41africa it doesn't qualify it's got to be something that they think is significant so we get one to go
39:46to the coast dutzen bay so this one's been in rotation for wow over 100 years been over everywhere
39:55across the world not this one specifically but all of them around 850 times holy smokes it's nice to be
40:03recognized and have them give us a flag because it means we're doing something that isn't just frivolous
40:10and we're not going on a vacation we're going to the middle of some place where we could die
40:21years of research and months of planning are finally put into action for the first day of the trip
40:28the team will travel in stages up north to search the barons for the lost viking cairn
40:37so now we have a plan that seems to work it fits the budget we've had to eliminate a couple
40:43of folks
40:43we'd like to have with us because we just don't have the lifting capacity for them no space or no
40:48way to get them around once we get there but we've got all the core things david's a good planner
40:53ex-military
40:54you know planning and preparation uh you know i'm kind of a get it done kind of guy i've got
41:00lots of
41:01skills lots of context lots of we can make anything out of anything jd's inherited a lot of that he's
41:06actually better at it in many respects than i am simply because he's almost more pragmatic i'm a
41:13bit of a pollyannish guy always thinking the best every once in a while he starts from the maybe the
41:17medium and what can go wrong and so on so he's pretty good at what he does the preparation and
41:22planning and risk assessments of all that stuff uh you get on an expedition where you're trying to do
41:28stuff and and nobody dies and you get the job done and you uh once you learn you can do
41:35that stuff
41:35and and and have the self-confidence to do that you just keep doing our thing has really just been
41:41doing something exciting like i guess well uncle joe's a bad example because his jobs have always
41:46been exciting they're not exactly like a mundane desk job but i guess for him that transfers into his
41:52um like personal life he just always wants to be on the move and dad is a little bit more
41:58of the
41:59the corporate life and i think this side of it's like the fun and excitement that he doesn't get in
42:03his day job we tend to do the hard stuff and the fun stuff it's rewarding in the end but
42:07i think
42:08sometimes the getting there is a stressful part for us with the conditions they will be facing success
42:14success is not a guarantee but like their viking ancestors who didn't set out exploring new worlds
42:21because they knew they'd succeed they're setting out because that is what explorers do
42:46so
42:50so
43:04you
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