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00:01The perfect murder, the unsolvable crime, does it really exist?
00:07In a TV first, we reveal the cutting-edge technology now used by British police to join the dots
00:15and reveal new evidence in all homicide investigations.
00:19I'm Tim Tate. I've been an investigative journalist for almost 50 years.
00:26I'm Sam Robbins and I'm a criminal intelligence analyst.
00:30For over 20 years, I've worked alongside detectives on major murder investigations.
00:34Together, in this new series, we are going to discover the fatal mistakes
00:39which prevented the perfect murder from ever being committed.
01:20Many killers plan what they believe will be the perfect murder.
01:25Many killers go on to put that plan into action.
01:31Very few, though, try to commit the perfect murder on the same victim twice.
01:43Emile Cillier is the rare exception.
01:47Over the space of just a few days in spring 2015,
01:51Emile Cillier tried to kill his wife, Victoria, twice.
01:57But because she did live, Emile Cillier's double life as an abusive husband,
02:05a serial philanderer, a fraudster, and a would-be murderer, rapidly unraveled.
02:16This case continues to be of interest to the public because it's a sexy case.
02:21It has somebody from the military, it has good-looking people, it has sex,
02:25it has all sorts that makes it titillating for the public to listen to
02:30and to hear the details of, and they can't get enough of it.
02:35In my career, this was defining for me, to be honest.
02:39I was involved in that case for three years, and it was three years of long, hard work.
02:44Emile Cillier stands out purely because of the person he was,
02:48purely because of the characteristic traits that he showed.
02:51Everything Emile did had to bring a benefit to Emile, whether that's financial, sexual.
02:56The extremes he went to to achieve those ends, you rarely see in people.
03:05Sam, Emile Cillier, what do we know about him?
03:08So, he originated from South Africa.
03:12He had a relationship with a very young girl, Nicolene, and she was only 13 at the time.
03:18She becomes pregnant at 16, so she's a very, very young mother.
03:22That was the start of a pattern, a repeating pattern, of predatory behaviour by Cillier.
03:30And he likes money, doesn't he?
03:32He likes the really good things in life.
03:34I think he probably looked at himself as a bit of a James Bond figure.
03:38He liked all the latest gadgets.
03:40You know, he was very keen on money and the finer things in life.
03:43And he liked that playboy lifestyle of having multiple relationships,
03:48despite the fact that he marries some of the females that he's in relationships with.
03:53He has children.
03:54When he bores of those responsibilities, he just moves on.
03:58So, Emile Cilliers is all about Emile Cilliers.
04:02You know, what you're describing are psychopathic traits.
04:07Definitely some psychopathic traits in there.
04:10And the trait that really comes out in all of his behaviours in this case is narcissism.
04:16So, people like Emile Cilliers often have a collection of traits.
04:20We call them the dark triad.
04:22So, there's psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and narcissism.
04:26And certainly, Emile Cilliers had elements of all those three traits.
04:29They're sort of linked together largely through this sort of common aim of manipulation.
04:35But again, this general disregard for other people, the feelings,
04:38and an inability really to connect emotionally with people.
04:43Every action that Emile takes is all about furthering his own wants and needs
04:49and exerting power and control over those around him.
04:53So, his first major relationship, he fathers two children with her.
04:58He does, but he doesn't hang around very long.
05:02He moves to the UK.
05:04So, he essentially abandons his pregnant girlfriend.
05:08And then when he's in the UK, she gives birth to his son.
05:12Emile Cilliers really sees other people as something that he can use for his own gains.
05:18Very quick then to move on as soon as he finds something new
05:21or the parts of his life are not unfolding as he wished them to.
05:25And he will manipulate and con people in various situations.
05:32In his late teens, early 20s, he'd moved to the UK.
05:35He'd worked a number of casual jobs before settling down in Ipswich in Suffolk,
05:40where he'd met Carly Cilliers, who he subsequently married and had children with.
05:46He forms a relationship with a lady called Carly, who he marries,
05:50and then goes on to have two more children.
05:54Whilst he was with her, he joined the army.
05:56Being a South African national, he was allowed to.
05:58And from there, he initially joined the Royal Artillery,
06:01who were based in Lark Hill, just outside Salisbury.
06:05From working with them, he gravitated more towards the PTI side of it.
06:09And on getting promotion, he joined the Royal Army Physical Training Corps as a sergeant.
06:17Narcissistic individuals seek out occupations,
06:20or they'll pretend to be from occupations,
06:23that exert authority and control.
06:26And what's quite interesting with Emil Cilliers is that he joins the army.
06:30It's all the things that would appeal to his narcissistic characteristics.
06:34And he becomes a skier for the army.
06:38He's going on lots of skiing expeditions,
06:40and becomes really very proficient until he has a very serious skiing accident.
06:46Being married to someone like that can't be easy.
06:51No, absolutely.
06:52And actually, it leads to a breakdown of the marriage from Carly,
06:57and Emil and Carly separate.
07:00But he has to have physiotherapy as part of his recovery.
07:04And he meets Victoria, who is his physiotherapist.
07:11She is going through a divorce from a very tricky marriage,
07:17a fairly abusive marriage that she was in.
07:20So she's a vulnerable individual.
07:22It's at a time when Emil is essentially looking for his next fix and high
07:29and next victim in terms of female relationship.
07:33So he's on the hunt.
07:34Absolutely.
07:35And, you know, I think what is really clear from the whole of the timeline
07:40is that he's got very predatory behaviour.
07:44She was a captain in the army before leaving and joining the MOD as a physiotherapist.
07:49And I think he saw her as a way to making himself appear higher up in the echelons,
07:57if you like, than he actually was.
07:59And he could use her and her connections in order to do this.
08:03So in the first few months, they were very much in love.
08:08He would love Bomb Victoria.
08:09He would make her feel like the best thing in the world
08:12and, like, he couldn't live without her.
08:14He fastens on to Victoria.
08:18What need is he meeting for her?
08:22What Emil is excellent at, as are all narcissists,
08:26is being able to look at a situation and mirror back
08:31the behaviours that they want someone else to see in them.
08:36So he knows and he spots very quickly that Victoria is vulnerable.
08:40So he starts to inhabit all the behaviours
08:43that are going to be needed to win her over.
08:46And it's a term called love bombing.
08:48And when you see that very, very early on,
08:51when it comes very quickly and it's hard and fast,
08:54it really is a massive red flag that you've potentially got a problem
08:58because someone's trying so hard to win you over.
09:01And if you're Victoria, it's very hard to spot that, isn't it?
09:04There is no quicker way to fall in love
09:06than thinking that you're falling in love with someone
09:08who's got your values and your best interests at heart.
09:10It's not just values, though, is it?
09:14Victoria's hobby becomes part of Emil's life.
09:18Yes.
09:22So Victoria's hobby was skydiving.
09:24In fact, it was more than a hobby.
09:26It was a way of life for her.
09:27She was a free-fall skydive instructor
09:30and she'd done over 2,500 jumps.
09:32So she was extremely experienced
09:35and very, very well respected in the parachuting world.
09:39Sillier trained as a packer,
09:43someone who is qualified to pack the main parachutes
09:47and also the reserve chutes,
09:50which are sometimes deployed
09:51if the main canopy doesn't open or malfunctions.
09:55And by 2013, he'd got full qualifications on both
09:59and was earning extra pay as a packer.
10:04Meanwhile, back at home,
10:06Victoria has given birth to their daughter.
10:09Yes.
10:10Her first child?
10:11Yes.
10:12Emil's fifth?
10:13Yes.
10:14What's he doing around this time?
10:16So he's certainly not being the loving,
10:20attention-giving father that he should be.
10:23So that love bombing of Victoria,
10:26in order to win her over,
10:27has done exactly what Emil wants it to do.
10:29It's got her into a position where she's married him
10:32and she's had a child with him.
10:33He, on the other hand,
10:35is carrying on like he always does.
10:40So from the surface,
10:41everything looked almost picture perfect.
10:43But behind that,
10:44you had a wife that was ignored.
10:46He'd spend many nights away.
10:48He would go to swinging parties.
10:50He would try and coerce Victorians
10:51going to swinging parties.
10:53Women he met there,
10:54he would meet subsequently on weekends.
10:56He was on the various dating apps.
10:58So he was constantly looking for sexual partners
11:01whilst married.
11:04Financially,
11:06how's the family doing?
11:07Not brilliantly.
11:09So Emil is also,
11:10in order to chase the highs
11:12that he so desperately needs,
11:15is gambling
11:15and he's starting to spend the family money
11:18and also his playboy lifestyle.
11:20He always wants the finest things.
11:22It's not necessarily about getting the finest things
11:25for his small family.
11:27It's about feeding himself.
11:29So the money starts to decrease
11:32to the point where he starts to lie to Victoria
11:36about what he needs funds for.
11:38I think, first of all,
11:39one was to fund an operation for his father
11:43and then he starts to steal money from Victoria.
11:45He steals money from his own wife?
11:47He does.
11:49I don't know whether she knew where it was going
11:52because they would never discuss this.
11:53He would never allow that conversation to happen.
11:56But she did challenge him
11:57on why money went from her accounts.
11:59There was one point,
12:00I think it was £6,000,
12:01went from account to three,
12:03£2,000 lump sums
12:05and he just gave her some cock and bull story
12:08about it was a bank's fault,
12:10it was this fault,
12:10it was everyone else's fault.
12:11And when she dug down into it,
12:13she realised the money had gone from her account
12:15to his account
12:16using their own sort of home computers, etc.,
12:19the IP addresses of those.
12:21Emile blamed the bank for their incompetence
12:24and he said,
12:25do you think I'm stupid?
12:28This is all your fault.
12:29You're mad.
12:30This is nothing to do with me.
12:33You're paranoid.
12:34And he made her think
12:35that it couldn't possibly have been him
12:37and it was all down to her insecurity.
12:41Emile Sillier subjected Victoria
12:44to what psychologists term
12:46coercive control.
12:49He would criticise her viciously one minute
12:53and then praise her like a princess.
12:56Next, it meant she never knew
12:58which Emile Sillier she was going to get.
13:02Coercive control is nothing to do with gender,
13:06class, age.
13:07It goes across everything.
13:09It's not the obvious broken arm,
13:12black eye violence,
13:14but that subtle coercive control
13:16where they lose control of their freedom,
13:19their confidence,
13:20their finances,
13:21till they become effectively a shell of themselves.
13:24They're shut away from their friends
13:25and their family
13:26and they're just there to serve a person.
13:40We fast forward not very far
13:42to November 2014 on your timeline.
13:47Victoria is pregnant with their second child.
13:50Yes.
13:51But Emile is not being any more faithful.
13:54No, he's not.
13:55And he has now regained enough fitness
13:58to be back skiing with the army.
14:01So he goes on a one-month skiing course to Austria
14:05and he meets Stephanie
14:07and he starts to have an affair with her.
14:09And this particular relationship
14:12will be critical
14:13in the undoing of Emile Sillier.
14:17So Emile had met a lady called Steph Goller.
14:21She became his new infatuation.
14:24Victoria had her suspicions.
14:26She certainly at times
14:27thought something was going on,
14:29but he denied it,
14:30always denied it
14:31and would put the blame back on her
14:33that she was paranoid and ridiculous.
14:36But did she ever think
14:37he would go as far as to try and kill her?
14:39No, absolutely not.
14:41This is just a continuation of his narcissism.
14:44He started another relationship
14:46and he wanted to be with her.
14:48He told a load of lies
14:50to start this new relationship
14:51by saying he was single, etc.
14:54And the only way he could see out of it,
14:56if he got rid of Vicky,
14:57get rid of the children,
14:59pick up the life insurance,
15:00he could start afresh.
15:02Emile Silliers was different
15:04to a lot of men who commit murder
15:07because for him,
15:08he didn't want to be necessarily
15:11actively involved in that murder,
15:13as in face to face.
15:14It needed to be from a distance
15:16so that he could distance himself from it
15:18and he didn't feel, therefore,
15:20perhaps that he was part of it.
15:23I think once the decision was made,
15:25Emile Silliers would have stopped at nothing.
15:27He needed to move on
15:28and to move on,
15:29he needed to get rid of Victoria.
15:33So, he plans what he thinks
15:35is going to be a perfect murder.
15:38What Emile had done
15:40is he'd taken a room
15:41at the barracks,
15:41all the shots,
15:42so on Sunday night,
15:43he used to leave home
15:44and go to the barracks
15:46saying it was too difficult
15:48to drive on a Monday morning.
15:49Essentially, he used it
15:51as a place he could take
15:52other women back to.
15:53So, on that Sunday,
15:55what he did was
15:55he put the children to bed early,
15:57had dinner,
15:58put Vicky to bed,
15:58she went to bed about 10.
15:59He then went downstairs
16:00into the kitchen.
16:01He loosened the gas valves.
16:03I had a gas hob
16:04in a brand new kitchen
16:05with an emergency cutoff,
16:07as they all have now,
16:08and he loosened the nut on that
16:09to allow gas to seep
16:11into the kitchen
16:12and he left
16:13and went straight
16:14to the barracks overnight.
16:16In the process
16:17of loosening the knob,
16:22Silliers grazed his knuckle.
16:23He didn't notice,
16:24but there was
16:25a tiny smear of blood.
16:28He then got in his car
16:29and he didn't drive
16:30straight to the barracks.
16:32En route,
16:33he stopped to have sex
16:35with his ex-wife, Carly,
16:36and then arrived at the barracks
16:38and texted love messages
16:41to Stephanie Golley,
16:43all the while knowing
16:44that the gas was building up
16:47in the kitchen
16:47and that when Victoria switched
16:50on the gas hob,
16:52she and their two children
16:55would be blown to bits.
16:58He was prepared to try
17:00and blow up the house
17:01with the gas leak
17:02whilst his children were there.
17:05I get marriages,
17:07relationships fail,
17:08I get rightly or wrongly
17:10that people then end up
17:11in some sort of violent confrontation
17:12with each other.
17:13But how rarely do you see people
17:15that are willing
17:16to allow their children
17:17to be collateral damaging
17:18and be killed?
17:20Even amongst lots of criminals
17:22that would be seen
17:23as quite extreme
17:24but he doesn't have
17:26this conscience in a sense
17:27that if he gets away with it
17:29then it won't matter to him,
17:31he won't feel bad.
17:32The only real consequences
17:33that he wants to avoid
17:34is being caught.
17:38Victoria became aware
17:39when she came down the stairs
17:40on a Monday morning
17:41that there was a smell
17:43of gas in the kitchen.
17:44So when she smelt gas
17:46she messaged Emil and said
17:48do you know anything about this?
17:50And he said to her
17:51have you put a stove on
17:52and she replied immediately
17:53well I'd rather not, obviously.
17:56He didn't come home
17:57at that time
17:58he just left her
17:59to sort it out
18:00so she actually called out
18:01another gas engineer
18:02who came and found
18:04the loose nut
18:04and tightened it up.
18:08Victoria's suspicion
18:09is already building
18:10that all is not well here
18:11so she sends him
18:13a sort of jokey text
18:16saying
18:16are you trying to kill us?
18:18Which he reacts
18:20very badly to
18:21and obviously
18:22does what he does
18:23in every situation
18:24where he's being caught out
18:26he tries gaslighting her
18:27in terms of making her
18:29think she's going crazy
18:31he loves them
18:32why would you know
18:33don't be ridiculous
18:33why would I do such a thing?
18:35But by this point
18:38Victoria's suspicions
18:39have definitely raised
18:40to the point where
18:41she thinks she needs
18:42to take some kind
18:43of protective action.
18:44And she does
18:45doesn't she?
18:45She takes action
18:47to protect her
18:48family's finances.
18:49She does
18:50unbeknown to Emil
18:52she actually writes him
18:54out of her will.
18:56That is a really strong
18:57course of action
18:58to write your
18:59loving husband
19:00out of a will
19:02should you lose your life.
19:03We know he doesn't
19:05know about this
19:05because he
19:07takes his own action.
19:09He does.
19:10So one thing
19:12that you'll always
19:12look for
19:13when you're looking
19:14at a murder inquiry
19:15is has any
19:16suspicious activity
19:17taken place
19:18prior to the incident
19:20being discovered?
19:21So one thing
19:22that the police
19:22would always look for
19:23is have any
19:25insurance policies
19:26been taken out?
19:27And lo and behold
19:29in this case
19:30police find that
19:30an insurance policy
19:31for £120,000
19:33has been taken out
19:34of Victoria's life
19:35by Emil.
19:37We're now coming
19:37to April 2015.
19:40Everything's coming
19:40to a head.
19:41Yes his first
19:42attempt has failed
19:43so within days
19:45he's hatched
19:46another plan
19:47which possibly
19:48was when you
19:48look back to 2012
19:49so almost
19:50three years earlier
19:52did he always
19:53have this
19:53in his mind
19:54that he could
19:55manipulate
19:56conditions
19:57to the point
19:58where he could
20:00encourage Victoria
20:00to jump out
20:01of an aeroplane.
20:03So Victoria
20:04and Emil
20:04already had
20:05a three-year-old child
20:06and Victoria
20:07had just had a baby
20:09five weeks prior.
20:10She obviously
20:11hadn't been jumping
20:12since she found out
20:13she was pregnant
20:14and Emil
20:15five days after
20:17the gas leak
20:17said to her
20:18why don't you go
20:19and jump this weekend?
20:20It would be lovely
20:22for you to get
20:22back into it again.
20:24Victoria thinking
20:25she had the old
20:26Emil back again
20:27jumped at the chance
20:28and said
20:29yes I'd love to.
20:31She was now
20:32capable of jumping
20:33but with two young
20:34children
20:34she was a little bit
20:35dubious about
20:36is this a sport
20:37I want to get back
20:37into
20:38but I still have
20:38the same love
20:39for it
20:39now I'm a mum of two.
20:41So he convinced
20:42her to go
20:42they would try
20:43it that weekend
20:44so he come home
20:45they packed up
20:47Saturday morning
20:48they shot up there
20:49and this is
20:49April May time
20:51so skydiving
20:52is very
20:53weather dependent
20:53it has to be clear
20:55they don't jump
20:55through clouds
20:56etc
20:57so if it's any
20:58of that
20:58then there's no
20:58jumping
21:00Emil had taken
21:00a parachute out
21:01for her
21:02from the parachute
21:03centre
21:03he had rented it
21:04for her
21:04because her own
21:05parachute was in
21:06for repairs
21:07so that was given
21:08to him
21:08he puts it
21:08on his shoulder
21:09she finishes
21:11paperwork
21:11comes over
21:12and joins him
21:13and the little girl
21:14says
21:15mummy
21:15I need to go
21:16for a wee wee
21:16I need to go
21:17to the toilet
21:17so he says
21:18don't worry
21:19I'll take it
21:20so he takes
21:20the little girl
21:21into the men's
21:22toilets
21:22and he's there
21:24a number of minutes
21:25five plus minutes
21:26we believe
21:27that when he was
21:29in that toilet
21:29we believe
21:30that that is
21:31when he tampered
21:32with the parachute
21:32she goes and listens
21:34at the door
21:35and hears some sort
21:35of chingling
21:37type noise
21:38difficult to describe
21:39but sort of
21:40something in there
21:41that was a funny noise
21:43but she comes back
21:44a minute or two later
21:45Emil comes out
21:46with the little girl
21:47and the parachute
21:48on his shoulder
21:49and they have a bit
21:50of chat
21:51they didn't get told
21:52look it's too cloudy
21:53today
21:53there's going to be
21:54no jumping
21:56but instead of
21:57putting the parachute
21:58back in the main store
22:00where all the parachutes
22:01are stored for the jumps
22:02Emil ensures
22:03that it's placed
22:04into Victoria's locker
22:05at the airfield
22:06so that she will go
22:07and retrieve
22:07that exact parachute
22:09so it's so calculating
22:10that he's ensuring
22:12every step of this plan
22:13he's failed once
22:14to try and kill her
22:15he's not going to
22:16make that mistake again
22:18and he's going to ensure
22:19that she gets the parachute
22:20that's faulty this time
22:22Emil insisted
22:24that Victoria
22:25put it into their locker
22:26this was really unusual
22:28but Victoria
22:29didn't want to make a fuss
22:31the children needed
22:31to get home
22:32they needed to be fed
22:33so she agreed
22:34and they put
22:35that parachute
22:36that he had rented
22:37for her
22:37into their locker
22:38overnight
22:40would have really
22:41taken some pleasure
22:43in trying to create
22:45some kind of situation
22:46that was indicative
22:47of his narcissistic beliefs
22:49it reflects very much
22:50on his personality
22:51there were probably
22:52less audacious
22:54conspicuous ways
22:55in which he could have
22:56killed his wife
22:56if he really wanted to
22:58but it really reflected
22:58on him as a person
23:00that he wanted to do it
23:01in this very
23:02almost flamboyant way
23:06the next morning
23:07on the Sunday
23:08the weather had lifted
23:10slightly
23:10and Victoria
23:11went to Netheravon
23:13airfield
23:13on her own
23:14she drove herself
23:16at this point
23:17she's still
23:18expressing milk
23:19breastfeeding
23:19so there's some text
23:20conversations about
23:21you know
23:22this is
23:22it's quite difficult
23:23to find a private space
23:24and you know
23:25I feel awkward
23:26and I've got a sort of milk
23:27so I might just come home
23:28she says
23:29and she said
23:29no no
23:29don't come home
23:30you know
23:30stay there
23:31it'll be great
23:31you'll enjoy it
23:32jump twice
23:33if you can
23:34yet again
23:35it was bad weather
23:35throughout the day
23:36but at about
23:37four o'clock in the afternoon
23:38they said that
23:39they could jump
23:40but they would only
23:41go up to 4,000 feet
23:42as the cloud cover
23:43was very low
23:44it was going to be
23:45a jump called
23:46a hop and pop
23:46which meant that
23:47almost as soon as
23:48you come out of the plane
23:49you pull your parachute
23:50so there's very little
23:51free fall
23:55so she said
23:56she was always
23:57nervous
23:59but she put that down
24:00to look
24:00I'm jumped for months
24:01mum of two
24:02I've got some concerns
24:04but other than that
24:04the parachute looked fine
24:06there's nothing untoward
24:07about it visually
24:09one by one
24:10the divers jumped
24:11and she watched
24:13as their canopies
24:14opened
24:15and they floated down
24:16towards the ground
24:18and then she lodged
24:19herself out of the plane
24:23after Victoria
24:24left the plane
24:25she was at 4,000 feet
24:27almost instantly
24:28she pulled the handle
24:29to engage her main
24:30parachute
24:32but to her horror
24:33when she looked up
24:34she could see
24:35that the lines
24:36were twisted
24:37when you deploy
24:38you look up
24:38and it should be
24:39like a rectangle
24:40of material
24:40above your head
24:41visibly demonstrates
24:42that it's deployed
24:43correctly
24:43and you can fly it
24:44and she realises
24:45straight away
24:45something's wrong
24:46it's not a rectangle
24:47of material
24:48and she can't use it
24:49Victoria was both
24:51highly experienced
24:52and highly trained
24:54she knew
24:56what to do
24:57in these circumstances
24:58she'd been trained
24:59to cut away
25:00the main malfunctioning chute
25:02and pull the cord
25:03of the reserve chute
25:05which would get her
25:06safely to ground
25:07when you cut away
25:08a main parachute
25:09the reserve
25:10comes out
25:11almost instantly
25:12you can pull it manually
25:13but it does come out
25:14as an automatic response
25:16however when her
25:17reserve parachute opened
25:19she realised
25:20that only half of it
25:21was attached
25:22on one side
25:23the slinks
25:24which are a key
25:25component of the parachute
25:26were missing
25:27and her parachute
25:29was no longer
25:29attached on one side
25:31so now she's not
25:32flying at all
25:33but it's put her
25:34into a spiral
25:35and what she says is
25:37I don't really
25:39ever look down
25:39I don't really
25:40ever start to panic
25:42I just spend my time
25:43trying to correct it
25:45trying to fly it
25:46you know
25:46training kicks in
25:47and I try and get on
25:48with it
25:51during the fall
25:52Victoria was conscious
25:54of fighting
25:54all the way
25:55and she will say
25:56she fought
25:57she fought
25:58with everything
25:59all the way down
26:00this was her life
26:02she thought about
26:03her children
26:04she thought about
26:05them being left
26:06without a mother
26:06but ultimately
26:08she fought
26:08to stay alive
26:11spectators
26:11watched in horror
26:14they were convinced
26:16there was only
26:17going to be
26:17one outcome
26:18for this
26:19they have an open
26:20top double-decker bus
26:22on the apron
26:22out the front
26:23so someone stands
26:24at the top
26:25with a pair of
26:25binoculars
26:26so straight away
26:27they put up
26:27an emergency call
26:28they can see
26:29something is clearly
26:30wrong as she's
26:31descending
26:31so straight away
26:32they go towards
26:33where she's heading
26:34because she's now
26:35heading away
26:36from the hangar
26:37and away from
26:37the landing zone
26:39she's twisting in the air
26:41because of the spin
26:42of the parachute
26:43and she lands
26:44about 10 to 15 feet
26:47from a road
26:47in a ploughed field
26:49a freshly ploughed field
26:52by chance
26:53that field
26:55had been recently ploughed
26:57making the ground
26:58of the mud
26:59softer
27:00for a landing
27:01and frankly
27:02Victoria
27:03had also been
27:04well trained
27:04in how to protect
27:06herself
27:06on difficult landings
27:08and although
27:09she was horribly injured
27:11with a broken pelvis
27:13and spine
27:13and a huge number
27:15of other injuries
27:16Victoria Sillier
27:18was alive
27:29Victoria was plunging
27:324,000 feet
27:33towards the ground
27:35at a rate
27:36of 60 miles
27:38an hour
27:38and when she
27:40hit the ground
27:41spectators
27:42watched in horror
27:43no one
27:44could surely survive that
27:46but Victoria did
27:53normally
27:55you don't survive that
27:57piece of luck
27:59for Victoria
28:00it is genuinely miraculous
28:02that she
28:03survived this attempt
28:04on her life
28:05and it was down
28:06to a couple
28:07of factors really
28:08one is that
28:10she was an incredibly
28:11experienced skydiver
28:13so she did actually
28:15know what to do
28:17in an emergency
28:18situation
28:18not that she probably
28:20ever would have
28:20faced that
28:21in her life
28:22or ever witnessed
28:23anybody doing it
28:24but she did know
28:25what to do
28:25so she knew
28:26how to position
28:27her body
28:27in the best way
28:29to minimise injury
28:31the other
28:32stroke of luck
28:33is that she happens
28:34to land
28:34on a freshly
28:35ploughed field
28:36she miraculously
28:37survived
28:38she is hideously
28:39injured
28:40with various broken bones
28:41and damage
28:43to internal organs
28:44but she does survive
28:45and amazingly
28:46she is conscious
28:48when the rescue team
28:49get out to her
28:53the first person
28:54that raced to her
28:54was a royal marine
28:56who was up there that day
28:57he had a body bag
28:58in his car actually
28:59and he thought
29:00that's what they were
29:00going to use
29:01when they get there
29:01they find her
29:02semi-conscious
29:03and groaning
29:04against all the odds
29:06they can't believe it
29:07they then click into
29:09you know
29:09safety mode
29:10first aid
29:11call in air ambulance
29:12etc
29:14Emile was called
29:15by one of the people
29:16working at the parachute centre
29:17they advised of the accident
29:20and what had happened
29:20and that she'd survived
29:21and was being taken
29:22to Southampton hospital
29:24Emile didn't say much at all
29:26he was quite quiet
29:27on the phone
29:27for a little while
29:28and then said
29:29I shall sort some child care
29:30and I'll go down
29:31to the hospital
29:33and learning that
29:34she'd survived the accident
29:35but it wouldn't necessarily
29:37have bothered him too much
29:38it would have just been
29:39a little bit of an inconvenience
29:40and he undoubtedly
29:41would have tried to do it again
29:43because this was not something
29:44that he would have played
29:45on his emotions
29:46or any guilt
29:47or any worry about anything
29:49Another good example
29:51of his attitude
29:52was he was due to go
29:54and visit Victorian hospital
29:56in Southampton
29:57so he searched for a sex worker
29:59who lived in the vicinity
30:01of Southampton hospital
30:02so he could go there first
30:04before going to see his wife
30:05who would do that
30:07you know
30:07you're going to see a wife
30:08who's just fallen
30:094,000 feet
30:10she's in intensive care
30:12in hospital
30:12and yet you're more concerned
30:14with can I get
30:16can I have sex
30:17with a sex worker
30:18prior to going to see her
30:19and that sort of
30:21those little things
30:22like that really showed
30:23how selfish he was
30:24how much he was concerned
30:26with himself
30:27above and beyond
30:28anyone else
30:29the chief instructor
30:31at Netheravon Airfield
30:32had been the first
30:33at the scene
30:34of Victoria
30:35lying on the ground
30:36he had scooped up
30:37the parachute
30:38after Victoria had gone
30:39but very quickly noticed
30:41that something was
30:42just not right
30:43about the parachute
30:44and that he could see
30:45that certain aspect
30:47of the parachute
30:48was actually missing
30:49so on the Monday
30:50he called police
30:52I happened to be working
30:53on CID at the time
30:54in Salisbury
30:55and his call came through
30:57to the CID office
30:59as I was almost
31:00the only officer
31:01that was working
31:01on that day
31:02the call fell to me
31:05at that time
31:06it wasn't a criminal
31:08investigation
31:08it was a
31:09let's scope this out
31:10let's see what's happened
31:11is there anything there
31:13we'll talk to Victoria
31:14we'll talk to some people
31:15up there
31:16we'll get the parachute
31:16examined
31:17and then we'll assess it
31:18from there
31:19so that was the initial
31:20initial phase of it
31:22if you like
31:24so in terms of
31:26a forensic investigation
31:27especially one
31:28which involves
31:29physical evidence
31:30then that can provide
31:32clues in the terms
31:34of an investigation
31:35so where we have
31:36a damaged parachute
31:37then not only
31:38can we examine
31:39the damage itself
31:40but we can potentially
31:42link that
31:43to a tool
31:44that may have been
31:45used to cause
31:46that damage
31:47the DNA technology
31:49that we use
31:49today
31:50is very sensitive
31:52it can recover
31:53DNA
31:53from a matter
31:55of a few cells
31:56so it means
31:58that we can
31:58wipe a swab
32:00or apply a small
32:02piece of sticky tape
32:03to an area
32:04and speculatively
32:05recover the DNA
32:07of an individual
32:09the British Parachute
32:10the British Parachute Association
32:11had a look
32:12at the parachute
32:13and they came
32:14back to us
32:16and said
32:17look
32:17we can find
32:18nothing wrong
32:18with a parachute
32:18but we can't
32:20rule out
32:20someone manually
32:22interfering with it
32:23so that was
32:24a massive red flag
32:25then
32:25because
32:25if there had been
32:27a reasonable explanation
32:28they would have found it
32:29this obviously led me
32:30to think
32:30well who else
32:31is involved
32:32who else could
32:33be involved
32:33with this
32:35Netheraven Parachute Centre
32:36is a military base
32:38which means
32:38that to get onto
32:39the base
32:40and onto
32:40the parachute centre
32:41you have to have
32:42ID
32:43and you have to
32:44go through security
32:45to get there
32:46so this narrowed down
32:48the amount of people
32:49who could have been
32:49involved
32:50quite quickly
32:51we started to look
32:52at the last people
32:53who had been
32:54anywhere near
32:54that parachute
32:55and of course
32:56Emil Silias
32:58was one of the last people
32:59to touch that parachute
33:00so we were interested
33:02in him
33:02no more than that
33:03initially
33:04at the same time
33:06as that came in
33:07we were approached
33:08by a very good friend
33:09of Victoria's
33:13after hearing
33:14about this incident
33:15her friends
33:16one in particular
33:17decides that
33:18they really ought
33:19to let the police
33:20know that all
33:20wasn't well
33:21in the marriage
33:21I took that call
33:23and that call
33:24was to change everything
33:27Victoria's friend
33:28who was also
33:29a captain in the army
33:30said that she was
33:31not happy
33:31with the situation
33:32that Emil and Victoria
33:34did not have
33:35the happy marriage
33:36that outwardly
33:36they appeared to
33:37she said she'd seen
33:39so much about him
33:40that made her
33:41very suspicious
33:42about his actions
33:43on that day
33:44she actually said
33:45that if he had been
33:46anywhere near the parachute
33:47then she would be
33:48concerned that he was involved
33:51at that point
33:52Emil does need
33:53to be spoken to
33:54you could just
33:55treat him as a witness
33:56or you could treat him
33:57as a suspect
33:57the benefits sometimes
33:59of treating people
33:59as a suspect
34:00is you get
34:01powers of search
34:02off the back of that
34:02of their house
34:03of their work place
34:05etc
34:06as a person
34:07charging that investigation
34:08my gut feeling was
34:09I wanted him arrested
34:11I wanted that sort of control
34:13and I wanted the powers of search
34:15so I made the decision
34:16at that point
34:17we would arrest him
34:17and interview him
34:21from what you've found
34:24and laid out
34:25Emil's reaction
34:28to being arrested
34:29and questioned
34:31is revealing isn't it
34:32it's so revealing
34:33so when police do decide
34:35that they're going to go
34:36and arrest him
34:37he's actually at work
34:38so he's a physical trainer
34:40for the army
34:40by this point
34:41and he is furious
34:44that police have dared
34:46to arrest him
34:48in front of his subordinates
34:50because he's losing face
34:52because he's losing face
34:53and also losing control
34:55and one thing
34:56Emil Celiaz hates
34:57is to lose control
34:58of the situation
35:01when a prisoner
35:02is booked in
35:04they're always given
35:05the opportunity
35:05of a solicitor
35:06Emil however
35:07said
35:08I don't need a solicitor
35:09I'm happy to go
35:10to interview right now
35:12so we went to interview
35:14thinking that he would
35:15say no comment
35:16because that's something
35:17that's very common as well
35:18but not Emil
35:19he wanted to talk
35:21and he wanted to tell us
35:22everything
35:23and he talked
35:24for six hours
35:26he says things
35:27you know
35:27I'm a
35:28I'm a good father
35:29to my children
35:30but I know I'm a bad husband
35:31I don't love Vicky
35:32I want to be away
35:33I want to be away from Vicky
35:34I want to leave her
35:36I'm in love with Steph
35:37I want my life
35:38to be with her
35:39he talks about his
35:41relationships with other women
35:42you know
35:43both at swinging parties
35:44and the sex workers
35:46it's almost as if
35:47he's trying to
35:48include you in it
35:49and be a bit
35:50you know
35:50lads together
35:52you're police
35:53I'm military
35:53we all know what it's like
35:54but it's such an extreme
35:56version of what he's doing
35:57this has just put up
35:58loads of red flags
36:00when you consider
36:01he'd been arrested
36:01for attempting to murder
36:02his wife
36:04most people would be nervous
36:06the first thing they would do
36:07would be to protest
36:08their innocence
36:08and say
36:09I don't know why
36:10you think this has happened
36:11but not Emil
36:12at no time
36:13did he protest
36:14with any urgency
36:16that he had not
36:17tried to kill his wife
36:19at no point
36:20do I think
36:21it ever occurs
36:22to Milsilas
36:23that he's going to be
36:24outfoxed by the police
36:25he thought he was cleverer than them
36:27yes absolutely
36:27I think he thinks
36:29that they're not going
36:30to be able
36:30to unpick this one
36:31he thinks
36:32he's got away with
36:34a perfect murder
36:36yes
36:36absolutely
36:39Victoria's at home
36:40so she's been in hospital
36:41for two weeks or so
36:42we sat her down
36:43and I explained to her
36:44about
36:44he denied maternity
36:46of his little boy
36:47that he had
36:47and he was having
36:48an infatuation
36:50with another female
36:51but I wouldn't tell her
36:51who it was
36:52and he wanted to leave her
36:53I said
36:53for these things
36:55caused me grave concern
36:57and that
36:59I can't allow
36:59to be here with you
37:01because I've got
37:02a duty of care to yourself
37:04also a duty of care
37:04to other females
37:05and a duty of care
37:06to investigate this now
37:08because if he has done this
37:09then you're at risk
37:12and at that moment
37:13she just
37:15broke down completely
37:16I think
37:17that was probably
37:18the first time
37:18when she faced up
37:19to what her
37:20marriage and relationship
37:21had been all about
37:23and then when we went
37:24to leave
37:25that's when she said
37:26well
37:26she says
37:27now you've told me that
37:27you better know
37:28about the gas leak
37:29so we had no
37:31knowledge of that at all
37:32until that point
37:34so
37:34absolute double whammy
37:36but after that
37:39she very much
37:40closed down
37:41and she would never
37:42accept that Emile
37:44was guilty
37:45and she wanted us
37:46to start an investigation
37:49in September 2016
37:52Emile Sillier
37:54was charged
37:55with two counts
37:56of attempted murder
37:58of his wife
37:59Victoria
38:19The case came to trial
38:22almost two years later
38:24and even then
38:25Sillier might have
38:28got away with it
38:30when we get to court
38:31Emile Sillier
38:33turns up
38:33he looks like
38:34he's dressed
38:35from Savile Row
38:35he's in a three-piece suit
38:37he has a tie pin
38:38and he is
38:39immaculate
38:40every day
38:42he's at court
38:42he is immaculate
38:44but he's also
38:45incredibly laid back
38:47and when he's there
38:48he swans around
38:49court like he
38:50owns it
38:51not a care in the world
38:53he would
38:53sit in the dock
38:54at the back
38:55and he'd chew gum
38:56looking bored
38:58not really paying
38:59any attention
38:59to the evidence
39:00that was given
39:01almost as if
39:02this is just pointless
39:03I'm clearly innocent
39:04and I'll be walking
39:05out of here
39:05why are you wasting
39:06my time
39:07and he never changed
39:08from that demeanor
39:09there was one point
39:10where we were waiting
39:11for something
39:12wondering where Emile was
39:13and he was downstairs
39:15chatting up
39:16this young lady
39:16from another court hearing
39:18sat next to her
39:19on the public benches
39:20downstairs
39:22during the first trial
39:24Victoria Silliers
39:25was called to the stand
39:26to give her a version
39:27of what had happened
39:28as soon as she took
39:30to the stand
39:30she started to go back
39:31on what she had told police
39:33she said that she hadn't
39:35been given time
39:35to read her statement
39:37before being forced
39:38to sign it
39:39she said that police
39:40hadn't kept her informed
39:42and that in actual fact
39:43Emile had not spent
39:44as long in the toilets
39:45with the parachute
39:46as she initially claimed
39:48she then also said
39:49that she thought
39:50she had cut away
39:51a good parachute
39:52and we're sitting there
39:53thinking I don't understand
39:54I don't
39:56I get you weren't
39:57ever going to accuse
39:58Emile of anything
39:59but I didn't understand
40:00why she spoke out
40:01against us
40:02so vociferously
40:04and that damaged
40:05that did damage
40:06the case a lot
40:11in truth of it
40:13I think Victoria
40:14being a very
40:15very smart woman
40:16suddenly thought
40:17what happens
40:18if Emile doesn't
40:19get convicted
40:20he's going to be
40:20at liberty
40:21to harm me again
40:23he would try
40:23for a third time
40:24yes
40:25he would try
40:25for a third time
40:26so she wanted
40:27to appease
40:27that characteristic
40:29of his nature
40:30to say
40:31I'm not against you
40:32and actually
40:33this has all been
40:33a massive mistake
40:34because I think
40:34she was genuinely frightened
40:36we had a clinical
40:38psychologist
40:39assess Emile Silias
40:41and he assessed him
40:43as a narcissistic psychopath
40:45and a very dangerous
40:46one at that
40:47but Emile had an amazing
40:49hold over women
40:50and they end up
40:52in this coercive
40:53and controlling relationship
40:54where they are just
40:56pawns in his game
41:00ultimately
41:01the judge decided
41:03to declare her
41:04what's known
41:04as a hostile witness
41:05this means that
41:07her video interviews
41:08would be played in full
41:09for the court
41:10and for the jury
41:10and she could be then
41:12questioned
41:13about those videos
41:15the jury
41:16the jury
41:16couldn't reach a verdict
41:18it deadlocked
41:19and after two
41:20of the jury members
41:21pleaded
41:22to be released
41:23from service
41:23because they were
41:24suffering from extreme stress
41:26the whole jury
41:27was discharged
41:28and the trial
41:29was stopped
41:30a new trial
41:32was started
41:33within a month
41:35in the first trial
41:36we had tried
41:37to spare
41:37Victoria's blushes
41:38but for the second trial
41:40the jury
41:41needed to know
41:42what sort of man
41:43Emil Silias
41:43really was
41:44we had not brought in
41:46the fact that
41:47Emil Silias
41:47visited sex workers
41:49he visited
41:50swinging parties
41:50he was a really
41:52unpleasant individual
41:53but we had to bring
41:54all this in
41:55because the jury
41:56had to know
41:57I was allowed
41:59to give evidence
42:00and I was asked
42:02about coercive control
42:04so I explained
42:05about how police
42:06try and deal
42:06with coercive control
42:07how domestic violence
42:09isn't just about
42:10black eyes
42:10and the obvious
42:12it's more subtle
42:13and it's a lot more
42:14insidious than that
42:15and she was a victim
42:17of this
42:17so when Vicky gave evidence
42:19and she said the same thing
42:20the second time
42:21there was a balance to it
42:22that the jury could see
42:23and I think they understood
42:25her position then
42:26by the end of the second trial
42:28we had done everything
42:30we possibly could
42:32thankfully
42:33the jury saw through Emil
42:35and he was found guilty
42:38he showed no remorse
42:40at all
42:40even at sentencing
42:42when the judge sentenced him
42:43to life in prison
42:44with a minimum of 18 years
42:46he didn't bat an eyelid
42:48there was absolutely
42:49no expression
42:50on his face
42:51whatsoever
42:52at the end of the second trial
42:54it was three years
42:55since day one
42:56you just wanted to jump up
42:58and down
42:58and scream
42:59and punch in the air
43:00and say yes
43:01you have to retain
43:02that professional
43:03outlook
43:04and sit there
43:05and smile
43:05I was emotionally
43:07and physically exhausted
43:08when that jury
43:10came up with the first word
43:11of guilty
43:12I broke down
43:13I broke down in tears
43:14I just couldn't contain it
43:16any longer
43:17this had been three years
43:18of hard graft
43:19but we got where we needed
43:21to get
43:21we had got a very
43:23very dangerous man
43:24behind bars
43:26and behind bars
43:27for a very long time
43:33it's nice to sit back
43:34I think you've had a really big case
43:35at the end of your career
43:36and you've actually
43:37brought it home
43:38and you've got a conviction from it
43:40it's
43:41it's what you join for
43:43originally
43:44I joined to lock up bad people
43:46and at the end of my career
43:47I got a chance
43:47to take on someone
43:48who was truly evil
43:50truly horrible
43:52it would take a lot of work
43:53to try and rehabilitate somebody
43:55with those kind of personality traits
43:57there's often
43:58some research that shows
44:00even sort of
44:01giving treatment to psychopaths
44:03actually makes them
44:03to some extent worse
44:04so they actually can then
44:05learn the emotional ways
44:07to manipulate people
44:08so whether he can be rehabilitated
44:10is really kind of
44:11a long-standing question
44:13that goes against lots of people
44:14of his type of personality
44:21In your analysis
44:24what made the difference
44:26between his plan
44:28for a perfect murder
44:30and the conviction
44:31which proved it was
44:32an almost perfect murder
44:34He vastly underestimated
44:38the investigation team
44:40who were dogged
44:42in their efforts
44:43to get evidence
44:45that would help
44:46secure a conviction
44:47I think he underestimated
44:50Victoria
44:50he must have been delighted
44:52when the first trial failed
44:53but he underestimated
44:55the people
44:56that loved and supported
44:57Victoria
44:58and he most certainly
44:59underestimated
45:00the investigation team
45:01The undoing of Emil Silliers
45:04is a very interesting question
45:06I would suggest
45:07his supreme confidence
45:08the fact that he talked
45:10for six hours
45:11he told us everything
45:12during that initial interview
45:13that he thought
45:14we would find
45:15on his phone
45:16his computers
45:17his laptop
45:18but he gave us
45:19far too much information
45:20and this was to his detriment
45:22ultimately
45:23when we were able
45:24to prove his lies
45:26Emil Silliers
45:27may still proclaim
45:29himself to be a victim
45:30he isn't
45:31the real victims
45:32of Victoria
45:34obviously
45:35but beyond that
45:36the six children
45:39Emil Silliers fathered
45:41and who have to grow up
45:43knowing that their dad
45:46was a would-be murderer
45:49their emotions
45:51their needs
45:52their psychological state
45:54often gets lost
45:56and I wish
45:58more sensitivity
45:59was shown
46:01and more attention
46:02was paid to them
46:04Emil Silliers
46:06must have thought
46:07by tampering
46:09with her parachute
46:09he was going to commit
46:11the perfect murder
46:12nobody would have
46:14suspected him
46:15if she was dead
46:16and wasn't there
46:16to talk
46:17that murder
46:18would have been perfect
46:27you
46:50You
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