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00:00Am I crazy for still thinking Lukanen will play tonight?
00:02Do we actually know anything?
00:04No, I don't think we know anything.
00:05We know anecdotally.
00:07We know he played last night.
00:09We know Lyon left the morning skate with an apparent injury.
00:13I'm assuming he's not playing tonight.
00:14I'm assuming Lyon's not playing, and I have been assuming Lukanen would not play.
00:18But that is just an assumption based on history
00:24and them not really using guys back-to-back,
00:27even in consecutive games hardly at all this year.
00:30So I've all along thought I'd be surprised if Lukanen played
00:33and you have sort of left the door open, which is right, because you never know.
00:37Well, I would say this.
00:40If Lyon is healthy, okay.
00:44Ellis, though, doesn't that maybe change the equation?
00:48I mean, when was his last start?
00:50February.
00:51You're in first place with three games left, and you're off until Tuesday?
00:55I mean, I feel like I was early to don't play your starting goalie back-to-back ever.
01:01I would do it tonight if he's not really tired.
01:06I mean, if he's not exhausted.
01:07He played Monday, too.
01:09These are high-pressure games.
01:10Come back last night.
01:12It's not a given to me that...
01:14What is this?
01:16This setup is just killing me.
01:20I don't know how he feels, but I would make an exception tonight if he told me he was good.
01:26I think.
01:27Well, don't they almost always tell you they're good?
01:29Well, okay.
01:30Fair point.
01:30That's where the risk about taking the guy's word for it, as the old manager comes out to
01:35the mound.
01:35Like, no, I'm good.
01:36Is Pedro going to tell Grady Little?
01:39No, actually, I'm gassed.
01:40I'm shot.
01:41I know I'm the guy, but get me out of here.
01:43They never do that.
01:44So, would you never play Lucanen tonight?
01:46You would never do it?
01:47I don't want to say I would never do it.
01:50It would have a lot to do with how much, how comfortable I am with Ellis.
01:54And, you know, there's...
01:57The morning show has dubbed him Captain Chaos or Colton Chaos.
02:04That's it, because his first name is Colton, not Captain.
02:06What does that mean?
02:07It's just, like, sort of...
02:10Oh.
02:11You know, he's going to be all over the place.
02:13That is what Chaos might sound like.
02:15Yeah, yeah.
02:16So, that's...
02:16If it had a voice.
02:17Yes, right.
02:18So, I mean, I don't know.
02:20He's made me nervous every time he's played, even when he's played great.
02:27So, I don't love the idea, but I just don't...
02:30I would be surprised if they went back to Lucanen.
02:33You're making a...
02:34I mean, it's a different time of the year.
02:37How do you not?
02:37How do you not?
02:40Okay.
02:40If you want to get everybody in, this is really the only place you're going to get
02:44the other guy in.
02:45Well, that is a good point.
02:46And that is a...
02:50That comes down to how bad Lyon is hurt.
02:52How badly he's hurt.
02:54All right?
02:54Because the playoffs are a week and a half away.
02:57Yep.
02:57So, if he's got some sort of a grade two strain something, something like...
03:03By the way, I've got a thumb strain today, and I'm going to need a grade on it.
03:08Couldn't even get through the first segment.
03:10Without mentioning it.
03:11Right.
03:11Right.
03:12So, if anybody watching sees me cringe when I pick up something, because that's been happening
03:16today, maybe they could just sort of throw out a number.
03:19Grade...
03:19What does it go up to?
03:20Three?
03:21Is there a grade four thumb strain?
03:22I don't know.
03:23I'm not aware of the levels of strains.
03:25If Lyon is down, he's got something where it's like a month.
03:29Mm-hmm.
03:30Two to three weeks, even.
03:32Then I'll listen to Ellis.
03:33Yeah, yeah.
03:34Because I might think he's important now.
03:36You might need him.
03:37Yeah, right.
03:37He's important now.
03:38Sooner than you think.
03:39Yeah.
03:39But otherwise, I don't.
03:40I never have.
03:41Right.
03:42And I'm trying to win this thing now.
03:47I don't know.
03:48Yeah, I like it.
03:49I like it.
03:49Come on.
03:50Come on, Lukanen.
03:52I mean, you just turned 27.
03:55He's never gone deep.
03:56Right?
03:57He's never been...
03:58Which could be an argument against it.
04:00Mm-hmm.
04:00But he's rolling.
04:03I'm doing it.
04:04I don't even think it's close for me tonight.
04:06Unless he's got a problem.
04:09I don't even think it's close.
04:10I'm not starting Colton Ellis in game 80 with a two-point division lead.
04:14Don't you just love it when someone does something completely unexpected, which is take a position
04:19that's kind of contrary to where they stood most of the time?
04:22This is great.
04:23I'm not being cute.
04:25Oh, I know.
04:25It's awesome that you're there.
04:28I just...
04:29This is what...
04:30Hang on.
04:31Sorry.
04:31This is what people always told me for years about fourth down.
04:37But, Mike, there are exceptions.
04:41And I have mostly capitulated on that.
04:44You know, talking to Sean McDermott over the years.
04:46And there was growth with McDermott when it came to fourth down.
04:49Sure, yeah.
04:49And, you know, he got to a point where he talked about having his team of people who
04:53would help him, you know, decide what to do and all the research that went into it.
04:56But he also said, look, we talked before every game.
04:59I believed him.
05:00Why not?
05:01We talked before every game about the opponents, maybe the weather, like what kinds of variables
05:06are there.
05:06And so I, as somebody that would say, nope, I don't care.
05:10I've got thousands of NFL games in my pocket.
05:13I know what it means to go on fourth and two from the plus 42.
05:17I don't need to know, you know, how the Eagles are going to line up.
05:20Yeah.
05:21So, but mostly I've capitulated on that.
05:24And kind of the safe space in this realm is that you need both.
05:29You want to have the data.
05:30This is where the data people, I think, have had to sort of let the other side have something.
05:36Because data was just pounding them over the head every time with how teams were adding
05:40analytics people and just sort of winning, you know, crushing the war on this.
05:45Okay, well, you know, we're not going to say your experience is worth nothing or these
05:52other factors are completely necessarily meaningless.
05:55Anyway, yeah, I think the point is, I think there are times where there can be exceptions.
06:01That's all.
06:02Yeah.
06:03I wonder how, I would bet they weigh every bit of data they can about this.
06:09And I would think load management is central to it because I wonder how much risk there
06:16is.
06:17There's, there's a certain amount of fatigue that would come with playing two nights in
06:21a row.
06:22There's maybe a certain amount of fatigue that would come with starting three games in a
06:27row or four out of five when you haven't played, but every other game for months on end, maybe
06:37on top of suddenly starting to play games in a row, throwing a back to back on top of it
06:45would be considered risky from a load management standpoint.
06:47And I would, I would buy that, you know, maybe there's only so many splits or, you know,
06:53way side to sides you can do before something you'd end up like Anthony Stolar's last night.
06:58It was just like, Oh, I'm trying to go down.
07:00Ah, you're done.
07:02See you later.
07:03What grade?
07:04Uh, I didn't get a grade.
07:05Um, but like, look, nothing, he didn't get hit.
07:09Just, you know, went to try to stretch out and just something popped.
07:12So I think they'd want to be really careful.
07:15Lukanen is now the number one goalie, which of course is the why reason why you're compelled
07:19to put them in because every one of these games matter.
07:22And there is time there's time after, but there is not, has not been much time before.
07:29So he's one shot on goal in the third and a one hour flight.
07:32He's played a lot.
07:34I don't know.
07:35I just, I, I would want to be really careful with him, especially now that lion is dinged up.
07:40Well, you know, interesting way to frame that because careful.
07:45Okay.
07:46Well, you know, I like the idea of careful.
07:48What, tell me then what exactly is the risk?
07:52Anthony Stolar's is the risk three and four is so egregious.
07:56I don't know that he'll probably get hurt.
07:58I mean, Jesus Christ.
08:00I'm not saying he's probably going to get hurt, Mike, but I'm saying there's a reason why
08:03guys don't play back to bats and it's all about load management.
08:07And you're staring right down the barrel of that with two games to go after time in the
08:11regular season.
08:11I think you'd want to be careful.
08:13I don't have my one B.
08:15I like careful.
08:16Like I said, I like careful, but what's the opposite of careful in this particular instance?
08:20Yeah.
08:21I'm not sure I can tell you how reckless it is.
08:24Reckless.
08:24Yeah.
08:24I mean, that's what I'm saying to do it.
08:26I know you're not saying he will get hurt, but how reckless is it?
08:30I mean, it is a question for goalies because even though they used to play a bigger share
08:39of games forever, our whole hockey lives until when, the last decade, you know, like number
08:44ones was Ryan Miller in a given season.
08:47And he had good, he had, Barron was a great backup.
08:49I remember talking with Darcy about 70 games being a goal for them to get Miller.
08:53They wanted to get Miller to 70 games.
08:55Yeah.
08:55Now that's crazy.
08:56Yeah, it is.
08:57I mean, with the occasional exception for somebody who can just physically has proven
09:02he can handle it and he's, maybe the backup isn't any good.
09:05I mean, Lucanen has played 34 this year.
09:08Fewer than Lyon even.
09:10That's not starts.
09:11Although starts is also fewer, 33.
09:13I don't know.
09:14I guess how much, before we get too carried away with ourselves arguing about it, how much
09:20of this that matters is unknown?
09:23A lot of it.
09:24How he feels.
09:26Right, to us.
09:27How Lyon feels.
09:28It's all known to us.
09:28It's all unknown to us.
09:29Right.
09:30It's like the guy yesterday calling up, I would sit Thompson.
09:32All right, tell me what you know about his injury.
09:35Oh, I don't know anything.
09:37I would sit Thompson, though.
09:39You've got to know what you don't know.
09:41Right.
09:41And in this one, there's a lot that we don't know.
09:44But, man, I admit, I've said it consistently.
09:48If this counts as being consistent, I have consistently said I am all over the road on this division
09:53race.
09:54I mean, not long ago, I was completely, it was irrelevant to me.
09:5772 hours ago, you wanted them to finish in the second wild card to go play Carolina.
10:02That's right.
10:02I'm pretty sure that happened.
10:03That's right.
10:04Now I can taste it.
10:05Today, you're Dan the Torpedoes put the goalie back in.
10:08Absolutely.
10:09Right.
10:10I mean, I guess some of that is on me, but some of that is that information changes and
10:18how hot Montreal has been over the last few weeks and the idea of not having to play the
10:26Canadian.
10:26Well, this is, you know, what's your latest on this?
10:28Because you corrected me recently on, like, Montreal versus Boston as opponents.
10:35How much better would it be to play Boston?
10:38I think it's really worth it.
10:41Okay.
10:41So this is, again, this is a pro for considering tonight's game big.
10:46Yes.
10:46Because you win the division, that's very much your most likely opponent.
10:51Versus playing Canadians or Tampa.
10:53Right.
10:53Which, you know, count me in.
10:56Yep.
10:57And there's still a chance at that other wild card, too, if you win the night.
11:01That's right.
11:02That's right.
11:03Carolina at Chicago.
11:04And that other wild card right now is Ottawa.
11:07Well, I don't really want that.
11:09Nothing has changed.
11:11The latest for me is the same.
11:14Most desirable to least desirable, I would go Boston of the most likely opponents.
11:20Boston, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa.
11:24I got to put Tampa at the top of the list.
11:27I just think that's going to be the hardest out.
11:29You just went reverse.
11:30Right.
11:31But, yeah.
11:33So who I want to see.
11:34Boston, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa.
11:38Tell us.
11:39Okay.
11:40Tell us how you feel.
11:41803-0550 is the number.
11:43Come on.
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