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00:20¡SuscrÃbete al canal!
00:30Despite stepping away from stand-up for 10 years plus,
00:33she'll be sharing how Strictly became such a huge turning point in her life.
00:37Also joining us is actor Ben Miles,
00:39who made his name in the naughty sitcom Coupling
00:42before taking on the role of RAF officer Peter Townsend in The Crown.
00:46And now Ben is back in the latest series of the BBC's hugely popular thriller The Catcher.
00:52And this time around, there are even bigger twists and turns
00:55as the show delves further into the murky world of deepfake technology.
00:59Oh, and we've got even more high-stakes drama.
01:02Ahead of the grand final tomorrow, Gladiators Apollo and Fire will be here
01:06alongside Emily and Naomi, the last two female contenders standing.
01:11We'll be finding out about their epic battle to be crowned this year's champion.
01:16Look at the strength. You love to see it.
01:18And with the Easter holidays kicking off,
01:20if you're looking for inspiration to get outside,
01:22we've got a real spring treat for you.
01:24As Hannah Stipfel visits the stunning Bodnant Gardens
01:27to photograph fields of daffodils in all their glory.
01:30And she goes on the hunt for some incredibly rare varieties.
01:34Stunning. As always, we love hearing from you.
01:37So if you've got a question for Susan, Ben,
01:38or the Gladiators, do get in touch on WhatsApp.
01:41030-123-1700. Socials or email.
01:45Lots coming up, but first, with school up for the holidays,
01:48many parents will be planning a visit to their local toy shop with their kids.
01:51Yes, and with a new toy inspired by influencers,
01:54which includes a wooden ring light, smartphone and mic.
01:57Would you believe it?
01:58I actually can't.
01:59It's causing controversy this week,
02:00and former Olympic snowboarder Amy Fuller has been to Buckinghamshire
02:03to find out how much the toys we play with
02:06impact what we do later in life.
02:09Playing with toys as a child can be good for development.
02:13But can toys also be a great inspiration
02:16to what you might end up doing as a career?
02:19For me, it was when I got my first skateboard.
02:23I loved it so much that little did I know
02:26it would lead to me representing Team GB at my first Olympics.
02:32So, I'm interested in finding out what toys others have had
02:35that have helped inspire them.
02:37Are there any toys or hobbies you used to play with as a kid
02:40that have potentially influenced what you do today?
02:43Shop toys, things like that.
02:45You know, with a little trolley around.
02:47I used to have a trolley.
02:49With a register and a little fake till.
02:51Was there anything you used to put in your trolley?
02:53What were the items?
02:54Shopping items, baked beans, all the fruits, girl, all the fruits.
02:57And what do you do today?
02:58I am an assistant manager for a bookies.
03:00So, I work in retail.
03:02So, I would assume that that's sort of where it's come from.
03:05I work in a cash register all day long.
03:07I've always wanted to do that.
03:08I've manifested it.
03:10Manifested it from childhood.
03:12What toys or hobbies did you play or do as a child
03:16that maybe influenced your career?
03:18I learnt to play the recorder.
03:20What was it about that toy that captured your interest?
03:23I loved learning to play tunes.
03:27It's as simple as that.
03:29And I taught flute, clarinet and saxophone.
03:32Now, I thought I'd retired, but the local school pulled me back in.
03:36And I'm now teaching recorders.
03:39Wow!
03:40I used to play with boats a lot, trips, and ended up joining the Royal Navy.
03:44You ended up joining the Royal Navy?
03:46Yeah.
03:46There was a lot of fads when I was in school, and everything required me to be outside.
03:50So, it was, whether it was yo-yos, Diablo.
03:52Diablo was the wooden sticks with the strings.
03:55Exactly, yeah.
03:55So, I've ended up in a career where I'm an outdoor instructor,
03:58and I work with young people to try and get them engaged with learning through other means.
04:03I used to have one of those little circuits where you used to make the light bulb light up.
04:08It's like a wooden board, a little wire that goes around.
04:10I'm pretty sure I learned that at school.
04:12So, now I'm a shift engineer at a data centre.
04:14So, essentially, that has transcended into what you do today.
04:17I guess, yeah.
04:18I loved playing with, like, dollies.
04:20I was very, like, maternal as, like, a young girl.
04:22I was dressing them up, doing, like, hair and make-up on them, as I'm a beautician.
04:27That is literally a streamlined transition.
04:30Well, on that, seeing as you're a beautician and it's raining and my hair's a mess.
04:33Yeah.
04:33Shall we pop off to the beauticians?
04:35Yeah, definitely.
04:35I can sort your hair and your make-up.
04:38Ah, thanks, Amy.
04:39I always knew that digital pet that I had would come in handy one day on the farm.
04:43You see, I had a microphone.
04:44Look at us now, JV.
04:46Exactly.
04:47Well, very soon, we'll be catching up with gladiators Apollo and Fire,
04:50and contenders Emily and Naomi ahead of tomorrow's big final.
04:53But before then, let's say hello to tonight's first guest.
04:56It's comedian Susan Calman and star of The Catcher, Ben Miles.
05:00Yes.
05:00Hello.
05:01Welcome, welcome, welcome.
05:03Hello.
05:04Ben, going to start with you first.
05:05We were just watching there how toys can inspire us.
05:08Now, like a lot of kids, you were all about cars, weren't you?
05:10I was.
05:11I've got two brothers and the three of us used to play these racing games.
05:14We used to build cars, our own, like, custom cars, out of a Scandinavian building block
05:20that you might know about.
05:21Got it.
05:22And we each had our little crews, our little teams,
05:25and we spent hours racing these cars around the house,
05:28smashing each other's ones to bits, and then rebuilding them, customising them.
05:32I wish we still had them.
05:34I'm forever talking with my younger brother and my older brother about,
05:37whose was that car?
05:38What colour was that?
05:39It was just, it was great fun.
05:42It was brilliant.
05:43I had similar memories as well.
05:45Turn another life.
05:46Could have been a race car driver, perhaps?
05:47You never know.
05:48We could have a little, we could find some, we could build some later,
05:51and we could have a little run round.
05:52Yeah, you're on, you're on.
05:54Just, Susan, as well, just this month, you found a childhood treasure.
05:58Oh, yes.
05:59Tell us about your golf clubs.
06:00So, I discovered at the back of my mum and dad's garage,
06:03when I was about six, my dad taught me to play golf with these clubs I found,
06:08which were his clubs when he was a child.
06:11I think they're from the 1920s, to be honest.
06:14And I rediscovered golf last year, so all I do now, kind of remembering that beautiful period
06:21when I was younger, is I play golf.
06:23I play golf and I tell stories.
06:27Essentially, I've morphed into Ronnie Corbett.
06:29Oh, that's not bad.
06:32That's not bad.
06:32Look at that.
06:33I did that as a tribute to Ronnie Corbett, because I realised,
06:37when I first started doing comedy, I wanted to be really alternative,
06:41you know, really edgy.
06:42And now I've realised I want to be Ronnie Corbett.
06:44That's what I want.
06:45And it's a beautiful thing.
06:47Golf has changed my life, and it reminds me of that really beautiful part
06:52of my childhood, playing golf on the island of Arran with my dad.
06:55Love that.
06:56Never, ever stop playing, Susan.
06:57No.
06:58Well, it's not just treasure toys that Susan's been digging out for inspiration.
07:01As she prepares to return to the stage to do stand-up for the first time in 10 years
07:06with a brand-new tour.
07:07So, Susan, tell us, what is it?
07:09As I say that, you're looking like, have I made this choice in my life?
07:12You have.
07:13So, tell us about the choice.
07:14Why come back to the stage after 10 years?
07:16I mean, it's slight madness, to be honest, but it's been 10 years.
07:21I've really missed being in front of an audience, and so much has happened
07:25in the past 10 years.
07:26I'm at the best part of my life, I think, at 51, and I've got so many stories
07:32to tell.
07:32I just really wanted to get back on stage again.
07:35And also, honestly, my therapist retired last year, so I've got no one
07:39to talk to.
07:39Right.
07:40So, part of it is a desperation to say what's been happening.
07:44So, you know, from Strictly onwards, so much has happened in the past 10 years.
07:49I like that, group therapy with your audience.
07:51Yeah, people get to listen to me and give me their feedback on how my life
07:55is going.
07:56Tell us about, because your Strictly journey, of course, was with Kevin Clifton
07:59back in 2017.
08:00Tell us about your Samba costume.
08:03There you go.
08:04So, that was Wonder Woman.
08:05Now, the great thing about that is they let me keep that costume.
08:10Nice.
08:10So, at Halloween, I wear it for any geysers, we would call it in Scotland, or
08:15trick-or-treaters come round.
08:17I'm in my full costume.
08:18And sometimes, if I'm feeling just a bit down, I just put it on and take the bins
08:22out.
08:24I just wander around Glasgow dressed as Wonder Woman.
08:28But it's a reminder, I got them out the other day, and it reminds me of just, I had such
08:33a lovely time with Kev.
08:35Yeah.
08:35He's like the best of people.
08:36Good egg.
08:37He's still good friends now.
08:38Yeah.
08:39I went to see him, that was us.
08:40He's in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, just now.
08:43And I went to see him in Glasgow.
08:44And he, there's nothing nicer, I think, in life than seeing a friend be remarkable.
08:50And he's so talented.
08:52And every time I see him, I just laugh.
08:55And he's coming to see me in Liverpool with Stacey on tour.
08:59And I will embarrass him by saying how much I love him.
09:03We look forward to the embarrassment.
09:05Yes.
09:05And as you mentioned, you're going on tour all over the UK.
09:08Yeah.
09:08Besides Liverpool, where else are you really excited to visit?
09:12I'm doing a gig at the Glasgow Pavilion, which is an old variety theatre.
09:16And it'll be the biggest show I've ever done in my home city.
09:20About 1,700 people.
09:22Wow.
09:22And I think doing stand-up in Glasgow, which is such a brilliant tradition of stand-up,
09:27will be, I think I'll probably cry, to be honest.
09:31Because I used to walk past that theatre when I was a kid.
09:34And to be playing the Glasgow Pavilion will be so incredible, I think, for me.
09:40So I'm really looking forward to that.
09:42But I've never played Liverpool before, actually, so that'll be great as well.
09:46Bring it on, the whole of the UK.
09:47Yes.
09:48Ben, you iconically were in the sitcom Coupling.
09:51People love, love, love that show.
09:53I loved Coupling.
09:54Well, there you go.
09:54I loved Coupling.
09:55Susan, love, love, love.
09:56I loved Coupling.
09:56Would you like to do more comedy in the future?
09:58Oh, I'd love to do more comedy, yeah.
10:00I mean, comedy's such fun.
10:03It's just, it's a joy to do.
10:07And Coupling was so brilliant.
10:09It was such great writing by Stephen Moffat.
10:11The cast were great.
10:13The whole set-up was like one big happy family having a really good time every week.
10:17And recording it live in front of the audience down in Teddington was just, it was, it was
10:22this kind of insane mix between, like, theatre and TV.
10:26And there was like a technical rehearsal, but it was all getting recorded.
10:30It was, it was kind of beautiful chaos.
10:32And that's, I think, the best place for that kind of comedy to sit.
10:36Yeah.
10:37It has the potential to kind of fall apart at any moment.
10:40Sometimes it did.
10:41It keeps you on your toes.
10:43It's a joy if you can do it again.
10:59Tell us about that moment when you said, we know you're a big old footy fan.
11:02When we qualified.
11:03Yes.
11:04I broke down.
11:05I was lying on the floor of my living room crying.
11:09And I don't live near Hamden, but I could hear Hamden.
11:12And it is, it is the greatest thing.
11:15No Scotland, no party.
11:16We are going to bring the fun to the World Cup.
11:19It's going to be amazing.
11:20Yeah.
11:20Yeah.
11:21It is going to be fab.
11:22And obviously, confiserations to Wales.
11:24Watched the matches last night.
11:25The Republic of Ireland.
11:26Absolutely, yes.
11:26So, look, we look forward to seeing you cheer on Scotland in the future.
11:30Absolutely.
11:30Yes.
11:31And Tall Tales, Susan's UK tour kicks off on Friday, the 11th of September in Inverness.
11:36Talking of big comebacks, this month, after a four-year wait,
11:40the highly anticipated third series of The Capture returned to our screens.
11:44So, Ben here plays Commander Danny Hart.
11:46He is the former head of Counter-Terrorism Command.
11:49Now, the thriller centres around Met Police officer D.I. Rachel Carey
11:53as she battles against the intelligence services
11:55and their use of deepfake technology.
11:58Now, before Ben tells us more about this dramatic show
12:01packed full of twists and turns, let's take a quick look.
12:04The question we asked ourselves a year ago has become even more urgent.
12:09How do we sort fact from fiction?
12:15Cameras back online.
12:16That is not the shooter I saw.
12:18This footage is compromised.
12:20Rachel, are you any closer to IDing the gunman?
12:23Who are you working with?
12:25All in good time, Rachel.
12:26All in good time.
12:29They're all suspects.
12:34Has it been four years since season two?
12:38Oh, my goodness.
12:39Time flies when you're having fun and making great drama.
12:42Time flies in counter-terrorism.
12:43There we go.
12:43I mean, it's such a gripping series.
12:45So, for anybody new to the capture, there is understandably a lot going on.
12:49So, despite the use of deepfake technology by the intelligence services being exposed in the last series,
12:55at this point, things aren't getting any easier, are they?
12:58Things never get any easier in the capture.
13:00They just get more and more complex and exciting.
13:03This season, yes, as you said, correction has been exposed.
13:06It's now known.
13:07It's now out there.
13:09This time round, Rachel Carey is now acting officer of Counter-Terrorism Command.
13:14My character, Danny Hart, got himself out of it at the end of the last series.
13:18He said, listen, I'm out.
13:19I've had enough.
13:20He just couldn't deal with the kind of immorality of the whole thing.
13:23So, he's kind of in the shadows, kind of enjoying the life of sort of corporate consultancy,
13:29bit of golf probably, you know, corporate seats at Stanford Bridge, that kind of thing.
13:33But there's something happens in this series that draws him back in
13:38and he can't help but get himself involved again in order to try and fix it once more.
13:44This show, I mean, the previous two seasons were brilliantly layered,
13:48but this season three has so many fabulous layers to it.
13:52At the end of each ep, there's always that moment where you go, no.
13:56But I thought, and every ep ends with this kind of cliffhanger.
14:04I can't really tell you that much more about it because you'll just have to watch it,
14:07but it is very layered.
14:08It's very thrilling.
14:10It's all the technology in the show.
14:12Some people think it's all kind of very, very far-fetched and made up,
14:15but actually all this stuff, deepfake, as we are learning these days, it's all real.
14:21All the tech in this show is actually around and happening.
14:25Wow.
14:26And Ben Channon, the show's creator, just builds the tension up and up and up.
14:30And it's funny, too.
14:32There's little moments of odd humour in it.
14:34It's got everything.
14:36I was watching it last night and I still enjoy watching it.
14:40That's a great time.
14:41You can hear the enthusiasm in your voice.
14:43Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:43I mean, you've played Commander Hart since the show started.
14:47Yes.
14:47Just tell us about his relationship with D.I. Carey and sort of how things have changed for him.
14:54Well, at the beginning of season one, my character, Danny Hart, was the boss of Counter-Terrorism Command.
15:00And Rachel Carey was a kind of newbie, come in, fast-tracked through the ranks to where she was.
15:09Season one, we see them having a kind of an affair.
15:13He's married, but he's having an affair with Rachel.
15:16Rachel ends it, much to, I think, Danny Hart's kind of astonishment.
15:21What do you mean this is all over?
15:23So that ends in season one.
15:24Season two, they're still working together, but there is that tension between them of the past that they had, but
15:30the job that they have to do together still.
15:33Season three, as I say, Danny Hart is kind of out of the Met, but still orbiting that world.
15:39So it's kind of matured this season, their relationship.
15:42There's still a kind of mentorship, but Rachel is now senior to him and is now calling the shots and
15:49telling him what he can and cannot do.
15:50So there's a kind of, the tables have turned in a way, but the tension is still there as to,
15:56I can still help Rachel in some ways.
16:00She can help me in some ways.
16:02So we're finding new ground together.
16:04And I guess there is an element of, some may see, of kind of, is there something still there?
16:10Yeah.
16:11Bubbling under the surface.
16:12I mean, it's an office romance time for me.
16:16Danny Hart would like to think so, but in reality, I don't think.
16:19Yeah, I don't think he's in the running anymore.
16:21I really don't.
16:22I mean, it's such a fantastic cast.
16:23It's yourself, Holiday Granger, Ron Perlman, Indira Varma, the wonderful Puppet, Aseidu.
16:28Puppet's actually on the show with us on Monday.
16:30He's a good egg.
16:31We love Puppet a lot.
16:33I mean, as we know, the show is very intense, very dramatic, but behind the scenes, surely you must have
16:37a lot of fun.
16:38It's so much fun.
16:39Being in a cop show is so much fun.
16:41Because you get to drive really fast through London with a flashing light off of it.
16:46I feel like I'm nine years old in the program.
16:48With your cars.
16:49With my cars.
16:50I feel like I'm in my car.
16:51I should have never had a police car.
16:52I should have had a police car.
16:54You need to write it down on a Christmas list.
16:55I could have gone faster.
16:56I could have gone faster along London with a blue light.
16:58It's lots of fun.
17:00The training is incredible.
17:01The kind of physical training, the counter-terrorism experts we've had on the show over the series have been fascinating.
17:07There's all the firearms work.
17:10It's a lot of fun.
17:12And we do have a lot of just kind of running around in kind of tactical vests and guns and
17:17cars.
17:19It's not a job.
17:20It's just fun.
17:24Susan, some people might not know this about you, but you were a former lawyer.
17:28Yes.
17:29I can't get my words out.
17:29I was.
17:30I mean, I didn't know it.
17:31Neither did I.
17:32What do you think about all this deep, fake technology?
17:34Well, I used to be an intellectual property information technology lawyer.
17:37for seven years.
17:38And I find it utterly terrifying, which is why when I leave the house now, I always wear a disguise.
17:44I just wear, you know, those glasses and a moustache.
17:46I wear that so that I hit my face.
17:49It's terrifying.
17:50It's absolutely terrifying.
17:50The technology in the show, this is all kind of happening.
17:55So really, it's, I find watching shows like that quite frightening.
18:00Wanting.
18:00Because it's not, you know, you used to watch sci-fi on television and think, that'll never happen.
18:05And now you watch shows like The Capture and you think, that is happening.
18:10That's happening.
18:10It's happening.
18:11So, but, you know, good luck.
18:13Indeed.
18:15I'm always, I'm always in disguise.
18:17So you'll never see me coming.
18:19That's the way I like to think of it.
18:20Ben, very, very quickly, we need to talk to you about the upcoming Kennedy biopic that you're in.
18:24And some Michael Fassbender's in it also as well.
18:27Yes, yes.
18:27Tell us about the part that you play in it.
18:29I play a character called Eddie Moore, who was Joe Kennedy Sr., the father of JFK.
18:35Joe Kennedy Sr.'s kind of sidekick, fixer, helper, accountant, muscle when needed.
18:42So I get to hang out with Michael Fassbender all the time, which is just so good.
18:46Good times.
18:47You've got the best life I've ever heard.
18:49So good.
18:50That's incredible.
18:51It's great.
18:51I just go, hi, Michael, hi, Ben, how's it going?
18:54Great.
18:55So what are we doing today?
18:57It's a fabulous series.
18:59It's an eight-episode show for Netflix.
19:03I think it'll be out next year.
19:05Telling the story of the Kennedy family.
19:07It starts quite early on because often when you think of the Kennedy's, you think of JFK, you think of
19:11the 1960s.
19:12This starts early 1930s, so we're like a generation behind.
19:18And it tells the story largely of Joe, played by Michael, and his wife Rose, played by the fantastic Laura
19:26Donnelly.
19:26Such a great cast in the show.
19:30And we see the story unfold of this iconic family.
19:35I mean, they're almost like the American royal family.
19:38Yeah.
19:39It feels a little like being on the crown, which I was lucky enough to be in as well.
19:42It's like the American crown.
19:44Do you know what I mean?
19:45Brilliant.
19:46As Susan said, it was great to be Ben.
19:48It truly is.
19:49I thought my CV was vaguely good, but you've been in every iconic television show.
19:54That's incredible.
19:55But I'm not going to be playing Glasgow.
19:56No.
19:57There we go.
19:57Come up and join me.
19:59And don't forget, you can see Ben in The Capture, which continues on BBC One and iPlayer Sunday at 9pm.
20:06Still to come, we're getting gladiators ready.
20:08Ahead of tomorrow's being the final.
20:09You've always wanted to say that.
20:10I have always wanted to say that.
20:12Fire on the pot over here and two of the top contenders, Emily and Naomi.
20:16But first, with nature bursting into life after a very long winter, wildlife filmmaker Hannah Stipfel has been to a
20:22very special place
20:23in the Conway Valley to capture a stunning but rare horticultural site.
20:29Spring is waking up the landscape across the UK.
20:33For wildlife lovers like me, it's one of the most exciting times of the year to photograph what nature has
20:39on show.
20:40Nothing says spring like daffodils.
20:42And where better to come than their traditional home, Wales.
20:48Bodnant Garden in Conway has one of the most spectacular displays in Britain.
20:55Most of the daffodils we see today originated from Spain and Portugal and were bought here by the Romans.
21:01Ned Lomax is from Plant Heritage, an organisation determined to preserve our garden history.
21:08Over the years they were brought into Britain particularly and then hybridisers and nursery people got together
21:13and made new varieties from those species.
21:17Astonishingly, there are now over 30,000 varieties here in the UK.
21:22A few are wild, but most are cultivated.
21:25So wild varieties and cultivated varieties are just as important as each other.
21:30Well, firstly, they're all beautiful and in gardens, species and cultivated varieties are most important.
21:35To keep tabs on every single type, the Royal Horticultural Society has a national register of daffodils.
21:43But even they have gaps, as rarer daffodils are sometimes lost.
21:48Hello Guy, lovely to meet you.
21:51Guy Barter is their lead botanist and would like to see the gaps filled in.
21:56So what can people do at home to help?
21:58Well, mostly cherish their daffodils, plant more.
22:01And we believe that all over Britain, in churchyards, hedgerows, people's gardens, there's patches of daffodils, some new, some old.
22:09And this is a fantastic genetic resource as well as being very beautiful.
22:13So if you have daffodils in your garden, look after them, cherish them.
22:16If they get crowded and no longer flower, which we call going blind, dig them up and replant them with
22:22a bit more space for each bulb.
22:23Do that in July, just before they disappear underground.
22:27With thousands of plants in this one garden, assistant head gardener Lucy Bigwood is always on the lookout for unusual
22:34varieties.
22:35Are there rare species here that you still don't know what they are?
22:39Absolutely, yeah.
22:40So we work really hard to try and keep track of everything we've got and keep it catalogued.
22:44But every year new things come into flower and it's a nice surprise and a good challenge for us to
22:48try and figure out what they are.
22:50And the daffodils, could there be rare varieties that you haven't discovered yet?
22:54Absolutely, yes. We're constantly checking them out and seeing what's flowering, yeah.
23:00The gaps in the daffodil record have led to a nationwide hunt for the rarest varieties, like the Mrs. R
23:07.O. Backhouse and the Sussex Bonfire.
23:11And two years ago, a rare daffodil was found right here in the garden.
23:15So this is Engelhardt's peach and it was bred by the Reverend George Engelhardt back in the early 1900s and
23:25he bred over 700 cultivars in his lifetime, which is very impressive.
23:29It looks quite different from a lot of the others. It's got these really narrow, twisting petals and this kind
23:33of peachy trumpet.
23:35This daffodil species is really rare.
23:38Yeah, yeah. We don't know many other places that are growing it. It's doing really well. It's obviously enjoying growing
23:43here.
23:43But yeah, hopefully we can have it growing in lots of other places in the future.
23:48Wherever you turn, this garden is full of surprises.
23:54The daffs come first, then everything follows.
24:02I came here to capture the signs of spring and I found them everywhere, from buzzing bees to rare daffodils.
24:09This garden is bursting into life.
24:14Oh, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. Thank you, Hannah. We love daffodils.
24:18We do indeed. Now, time to welcome our final guest tonight, ahead of the big Dad Data's final tomorrow.
24:24It's Fire and Apollo and two of this year's finalists, Naomi and Emily.
24:30Now, Susan, we're going to go to you because the joy on your face when Apollo and Fire walked into
24:42this room was palpable.
24:44I mean, look, I mean, you're best friends already.
24:46Tell us what gladiators means to you.
24:48I love gladiators and I apologise for touching you without necessarily asking.
24:52At my local shopping centre in Glasgow, there was a big queue one day and there were gladiators there for
24:57a personal appearance and I queued for an hour and then I had to leave because my dream was to
25:02meet the gladiators.
25:04Because I think they're amazing. I mean, I could still take you, mate, but at the same time, middle-aged
25:10moving on HRT, she's dangerous.
25:12It'd be great for television.
25:13Absolutely.
25:14We can send it right now if you want to do it.
25:16I just think it's fab. Kids love you, families love you and I think anything which is family entertainment just
25:22now is brilliant.
25:23And I love all of you and, you know, I just think I'll give you some tips at the end.
25:31Well, Fire, we'll come to you. It's been an intense 10 weeks of tough competition in the Sheffield Arena.
25:37I've been doing my family as well. How impressive have you been with all the contenders, particularly Naomi and Emily,
25:42because they're all incredible finalists.
25:44They actually are. And you know what? The storyline behind everyone's stories, what they're fighting for on the show has
25:48been phenomenal this year.
25:49Honestly, I've been so impressed with you guys because they represent so much. They are bigger, faster, stronger and smarter
25:55because they've had two series to study.
25:58So they're coming on like, oh, this is a new move that you've got going on. They've been on it
26:02and it's been amazing to see and it's led up to this amazing grand final.
26:05Like, it's going to be hot. Excuse the pan.
26:07Oh, hey!
26:09Oh!
26:10And that's why she's fired!
26:12Apollo, you started out in rugby and NFL. Tell us how it prepared you, you know, to be a gladiator,
26:18particularly with the new events you guys have got.
26:19Like, yeah, destruction here.
26:21Yeah, I know. What an amazing game for them to bring in. Honestly, I would say, first of all, kids,
26:25do not try that at home.
26:26Very good.
26:26But if anyone needs any DIY work doing, I'll give you a good price.
26:30All right? But yeah, set me up really well. You know, a lot of tackling. There's a lot of rough
26:33and tumble in the show.
26:34A lot of that in rugby and the NFL. So it's a good mix.
26:36Brilliant. Emily, you're joining Naomi as well as Tyler and Josh in the final.
26:40What did it mean to you to finally get there?
26:43It was beyond words, honestly. There are so many people backing me in my corner.
26:46And it was so great to sort of see that what was a random application to gladiators being like, I
26:51won't actually get on, has led to me being at the grand final.
26:54So many people in my corner. It's beyond words. It's so surreal.
26:57Done so well.
26:58So exciting. And Naomi, you said you've really had to push yourself out of your comfort zone to get to
27:03where you are. Tell us more about that.
27:04Yeah, you know, my background has been team sports and my role within that has been captains and supporting the
27:09team around me.
27:10And I've never really put myself as an individual forward.
27:12And I just threw myself into this. And each time I grew a bit of confidence.
27:16So it's been a fantastic learning about myself and for my kids as well.
27:19So, yeah, I'm really pleased.
27:21Yeah, you're a real life superhero, it's all of you.
27:23I mean, Fyre, as a top athlete, how important is it for shows like gladiators to empower women of all
27:29ages, especially when it comes to sport?
27:31Well, first of all, I hope we're empowering everyone, but definitely being against these amazing queens.
27:36Like, what I love about the show is that they represent, like I said, so much in terms of, they
27:40won't mind me saying that we are in our 40s.
27:41And Emily is not in her 40s.
27:43And it's showing that you can reinvent yourself, you can go for it.
27:46And like Naomi said, it's not about being, like, fearless.
27:49It's not about not being afraid.
27:50It's about going for it.
27:51And they did it every time.
27:52I mean, Emily going up there, going against Jewel and different events, it was tough to see.
27:56Like, she's a pocket rocket.
27:58And absolutely went for it.
28:00The eyes were just...
28:01Locked in.
28:02Absolutely.
28:03Emily, you've got loads of support from all your family and your friends.
28:06You're meeting up for a party on Saturday.
28:08And I hear your parents have been rallying the troops in our hometown of Croydon.
28:11Hey, honestly, got to rep South London.
28:14Back on the map for good reasons.
28:15But I'm sure...
28:18Yeah, everyone here.
28:21He's also invited, by the way.
28:22My dad has been going around.
28:23Everyone we want, the more the merrier.
28:25It's going to be so much fun, honestly.
28:27He literally invited me, didn't he?
28:28I will be there, by the way.
28:29He invited me.
28:30Right, done, done, done.
28:31Well, that is all we've got.
28:34Oh, we've got...
28:35Yeah, we've got the flag.
28:35We've got the flag.
28:36Oh, yeah.
28:36I mean, there's so many great things happening.
28:38And don't forget, you can watch the Gladiators' Grand Final tomorrow at 5.45 on BBC One and Leicester
28:44in Scotland, where it starts at 7.20.
28:46Susan, yeah, you're good.
28:47You're good.
28:48You're good.
28:49Don't worry.
28:50Hang on.
28:50I'll be ready.
28:51I'll be ready.
28:52And, of course, it will be available on iPlayer.
28:56Plus, tickets to the Gladiators' live tour are on sale now.
29:00Lots of people very excited to talk to you all.
29:02Yeah, we've got a comment for Naomi and Emily.
29:04It says...
29:04Alice says, sorry, I'm a huge fan of Emily and Naomi, and they are such a massive inspiration.
29:09And hello to Sue, who says, I cannot wait to see Susan from the front row at the Warwick Arts
29:14Centre
29:14with her friends, Tracy, Chris and Louise.
29:17Oh, I love you.
29:18Well, that is all we've got time for tonight.
29:20Thank you so much to all of you for joining us.
29:22We are back next week and joined by a brilliant line-up, including Anton Deck, Hugh Bonneville,
29:26Patsy Kensett and Bill Bailey.
29:28Have a lovely weekend.
29:29Thank you.
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