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Seth and Sean discuss what anonymous scouts are telling Bob McGinn about the offensive line prospects and if any would be a fit or non-fit for the Texans based on that chatter.
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00:00Anonymous scouts. We love them on this show. Hopefully you love them as much as we do. We
00:05love quotes from anonymous scouts on the Tyler Dunn website, courtesy of Bob McGinn, formerly
00:11of the Milwaukee journal Sentinel. And that's been his gimmick for years. Seth is that he's
00:17got a nice network of scouts around the NFL and he, he gets them. They're chatty with
00:25him. Yeah, they're chatty with him. And so I kind of went through as he hit the offense
00:29of linemen in the last couple of days and mostly just grab some quotes about guys who
00:35have been mocked to the Texans pretty heavily. And Caden Proctor is the one guy tackle at
00:44Alabama who might end up playing guard in the NFL that has a lot of talent, but has had
00:51some issues with his weight and is probably not going to get drafted as high as what his
00:56physical talent would suggest.
00:58Right. But if I had to guess, if I had to guess, I'm just kidding. I'm, I am, uh, you
01:04know, I'm, I'm close to the average fan. And so if I had to guess, I know if I were
01:08looking
01:09to get excited about offensive linemen, Caden Proctor checks a lot of boxes for people that
01:14are sitting in their cars right now, probably went to Alabama, a big, massive mountain of
01:20a human being. He's like a guy that fights to stay at three 50. Yes. Yes. His nickname
01:26I learned yesterday as I was watching a feature on him on ESPN is crispy because he got up to
01:32400 pounds. Cause he was eating Krispy Kreme donuts all the time. Yeah. So that's a fact.
01:37Yeah. It wasn't like a, a, a healthy 400. No, so many other people, they didn't call him
01:42crispy because he was cooking guys all the time. Like, well, you know, and John Harris told me this,
01:46I didn't realize this part of the story, which is it's one of those stories that kind of makes
01:50you raise your eyebrow, but a lot of people remember from highlights that they'll, they'll
01:54use Caden Proctor as a receiver. Yeah. And he's had some impressive clips of him bulldozing
02:00people after he catches the ball. But one of the things that they did to help him keep his
02:04weight under control was say, Hey, if you keep your weight down, we'll use you as a receiver
02:09incentive. That was the incentive. Yeah. I don't see the Texans doing that. Um, but that's the
02:15other box. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. That's the other box. And I think it checks
02:18for the average fan is, Oh, that's the guy who, who I saw catch a ball and steamroll dudes
02:23at the goal line. Yeah. So here's the, the other part of the backstory of him was when
02:29he had transferred to Iowa after saving left and it was at Iowa for all of two months before
02:35he transferred back to Alabama. Yeah. So here are the crusty old scouts with some of their
02:40quotes about Caden Proctor. So this one's about that, that little transfer portal scenario.
02:46Okay. Quote had the transfer portal issue where he kind of quit on the team and was going back
02:52to Iowa and then he came crawling back and his teammates accepted him. I love that this
02:57scout who was around for none of that probably says he came crawling back, came crawling back
03:02all 473 pounds of them. Yeah. Big tub of goo. Yeah. What does that look like? Somebody,
03:08I don't mean like literally crawling back a large man crawling. Do you think like he came back and
03:13he was just like, had to be like super apologetic to his teammates? Like, Hey guys, world. I don't
03:18think again, this is where I feel like it's probably an older scout. Yeah. Like came crawling back and
03:22his teammates accepted him. I feel like that wasn't as big an ask of his teammates as a guy that
03:28played
03:28at Alabama in the 1970s. You know, there was no, they didn't have to beat him back into the club
03:33or
03:33anything. This is a guy, this scout, I feel like these quotes are as much as scouting report on the
03:38scouts as it is the player. This is a guy who holds grudges. He holds grudges. This scout came
03:45crawling back. Another scout says this about Caden Proctor. Talent wise, there's no question who this
03:51kid is, but he has had weight issues over his career. Intelligence is not great. At the end of the
03:57day, O-linemen are big, smart, and tough are the guys that play the guys that are super talented,
04:04maybe not that smart and have weight issues. And the work ethic doesn't match to the talent
04:08and the, what are the ones you worry about? He's how you want to draw them up physically,
04:13but it gives you a little pause with who he is. Okay. Okay. This is a, this is a quote
04:17we need
04:17to dig into here. If you're a Caden Proctor fan sitting in your car, if you're like, you know,
04:22what sounds great is a 370 pound O-lineman from Alabama. This quote scares me. It's a tough quote
04:27to read and dig into because this guy's got no regard for sentence structure. So it's ironic that
04:34the, it's ironic that the scout who's questioning Caden Proctor's intelligence doesn't know how to
04:39write a complete sentence as he's emailing this to Bob McGinn, I'm guessing. Oh yeah. Okay. So you're
04:44not giving the scout the benefit of the doubt that this is just him speaking extemporaneously.
04:49No, no. You know how much mental work I had to do to even make that sound legible? Yeah. Yeah.
04:54Yeah. Yeah. I would say this is an interesting one. So for Proctor to fall to all the way to
04:5928,
05:00if the Texans stayed at 28, we know they won't, but it's, this puts it in context a little bit.
05:07You can do not, you cannot deny the physical ability, but just a lot of hype, a lot of recognition
05:14early on. He's going to go probably in the twenties, but it's embarrassing. He should
05:19be in the top five, top six. He's more athletic than my top two guys, Fano and Mauagoa, but the
05:26top
05:26two guys produce consistently. I had, this is, it feels like, as they talk about Caden Proctor
05:32falling, it feels like the reasons that he's falling are all the things that the Texans tend
05:38to just keep a guy off their draft board. Yes. Yeah. And, and, and we bring this up every
05:43time we hit a topic where we stray over to the Texans big board. Nick Casario has said
05:48several times, both in press conferences and on this very radio show, they have a board
05:54that is probably smaller than most teams in the NFL. They have fewer guys that they view
06:00as draftable by their criteria than most teams in the NFL. And if you're, if I had to say,
06:07I would based on everything we've heard, I know we've got one more here on, on Proctor
06:11that will, we'll hit one more quote, but just based on the three quotes that have been read
06:15so far, this feels like a guy who is not on the board for teams that keep their board
06:19really tight. Right. Right. Uh, last quote, I don't know if he has the grit to play guard,
06:26but he could, he does not dominate consistently. Depends on which tape you watch. He's gifted
06:31though. He's just a mountain of a man with great feet. He gets lazy sometimes. Yeah. This
06:35feels like a guy who the, I don't think the Texans are going to get tempted by a guy like
06:39this, you know, like this guy. That's the tough part too, is I try to keep a positive attitude
06:44about most of these prospects and I watch more highlights than anything else. Cause everybody's
06:49got their flaws and blemishes. The, it's the trouble with that with Caden Proctor is that
06:54the highlights are intoxicated. Well, and, and, and, and the interview, you know, as part of
06:59this thing I saw on ESPN yesterday, Seth, they had, they had a sit-down interview with,
07:03with Caden Proctor. And it was probably cause it was their pro day a couple of days ago and
07:06they had somebody there. He's a delightful young man. Like he, I think he probably
07:11interviews really well also. And you're right. The highlights are like, Holy crap. This guy
07:15was created in a lab somewhere, you know? So one guy with the top guys, uh, you know,
07:21Spencer Fano almost definitely won't be going to the Texans, but I just thought this was an
07:26interesting one. Little tidbit. Four of his uncles played in the NFL quote is he's just kind of
07:31average at everything. Doesn't have top strength or top movement or feet inconsistent with production.
07:37He moved around better at the combine than I saw on tape, but that's drill work. He's got a quirky
07:42type personality. That one got me interested. Okay. A lot of it is there's some, honestly,
07:47there's a lot of strays in here where they'll just quickly mention something like he's got a
07:51quirky type personality or about somebody else that we're going to read later. He says he's,
07:55I've got a mental on him. And that's all you hear. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't
08:01know.
08:02Like mental in a good way or mental in a bad way. He's mental. Like the guy from the program
08:10mental. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Uh, that clip, by the way, the program came out however many years
08:15ago, uh, today or no, no, it wasn't. It was because it was released during football season,
08:21but it was the clip of Latimer and the program flipping out when he finds out that he's
08:26got a place at the table. Oh, is that the guy people compared Cushing to all the time?
08:30Yeah. I'm sorry. I got, I'm sorry. I should have, I forgot that not most people probably
08:34don't know Latimer by, uh, just by reference. 1993 is when he's the big Roy head there. But
08:40the funniest part about it was that he just, he comes out and he's bash head bashing windows on
08:45cars. Cause he's so excited, but he's wearing like these gray Capri sweatpants that you can only
08:51get away with in 1993 if you're jacked like Latimer. It's 1993. Nobody was wearing Capri
08:57sweatpants back then, man. Except Latimer. Latimer could get away with it when you're bashing your
09:01head through windows of cars. So, uh, Blake Miller, uh, tackle has been mocked to the Texans a whole
09:08bunch. Incessantly mocked to the Texans. Yeah. Nothing, nothing scandalous here, but I think a
09:13pretty blunt assessment. He'll get thrown down a lot because he's a little tight in the hips. He's tough,
09:19not the strongest, but he works at it. Yeah. Good in pass pro. His thing is he's really,
09:24really quick in positions. Well, after that, sometimes he's up and down just because he's
09:28not super strong or a top athlete. Ideally he's in the second round, but we'll probably go one.
09:34Okay. Okay. That's a, I mean, I think that matches the eyeball test. You watch him move
09:39and do a lot of things really fluidly and athletically, but I just don't know how strong
09:45he is. Yeah. And it starts to feel like so many guys that get taken in the second round
09:49that, all right, it's just, we're going to find out if this guy can either put on his
09:53man's strength or not. Well, in the Texans seem to have developed a type this off season
09:58in offensive lineman. And this doesn't sound like the type, like the guy who's kind of more
10:04athletic than he is road grader and strong here. I mean, I'm, I'm reading one quote and
10:10I've heard all your evaluations you've done in every mock draft. Yeah. And I think that
10:13that's, that's pretty much accurate. And it's, and it's why a guy would go in the second round
10:17is if he were, if he were stronger, I don't want to say tougher because that's more of a,
10:22that's more of a character trait. I don't know. I don't think he lacks toughness. I just don't
10:26think he doesn't play with a certain, uh, physical imposing quality to physically imposing
10:33quality to him. Yep. Yep. Okay. We got a couple more guys here. Okay. Uh, Maxie and
10:37Achor. So Maxie and Achor remember was the offensive lineman who didn't start playing
10:42football until he was in college. He was the one that was, uh, playing around with
10:46Vrabel in that video. We talked about yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. You're doing the hand drills. Yep.
10:49So, uh, these guys are always hit or miss and how long it will take. And if he'll get it,
10:56you see the ability to flashes, but he just plays raw. Okay. You just don't know the background,
11:02the learning, the work ethic, and whether you have confidence that's going to develop. He's
11:07off balance a lot. The hand placements wide. He doesn't seem to pick things up quickly and
11:11visually classic senior bowl guy. Oh boy. This is where it's interesting is the Texans fall
11:16in love with senior bowl guys at times forever now. Yeah. So the scout continues. Everything's
11:21kind of dumbed down there at the senior bowl. Those kinds of guys shine. It's easy. You don't
11:27have to learn much. That's why it isn't valuable. He'll be a second round. Do you? Okay. I got
11:31a couple of things for you here. Do you agree with this scouts assessment of senior bowl guys?
11:36I think that, Oh, Oh boy. That's a tough one that there's that it's kind of dumbed down
11:41there that there's a hundred percent is dumbed down, but I think that's the two sides of the
11:45coin. There could be, I think that's why some scouts like the senior bowl because it's more
11:50of a, a raw physical challenge. Cause guys don't necessarily have to guys aren't getting
11:57schemed into victory. This I'll tell you what this feels like. If they were to draft him with
12:01the 28th pick, I'll tell you what we would say. The next, what I would say the next morning
12:06is this is a Cole Popovich special here where, you know, you're going to be leaning on your
12:11position coach to try to, to try to smooth the rough edges off of this guy. This is a,
12:16this would be a trust in Cole Popovich pick, right? Yeah. And I think when I talked to John
12:21Harris the other day, I believe that's what he had said about I and Achor's performance at the
12:26senior bowl. There was, he struggled, he struggled, but that also had some really good
12:30snaps. Like everything that you would expect from a guy who's new to the new to football in general
12:36and still plays raw. But I think, yeah, they see the upside there. It feels like, it feels like
12:42getting him at 38 overall would be the perfect place to take him. Yeah. I wonder if they feel
12:48confident enough to take him at 28. And yeah, a lot of that might just come down to whether Cole
12:51Popovich likes him. All right. You got a couple more names here that I know. I know the next
12:55one we're going to do that. We've got a certain school going to be very interested in this guy.
12:59And then a name after that, that's been mocked to the Texans several times who I know you like.
13:03So I'm excited to get your thoughts on these quotes here. So Chase Besantis, especially again,
13:08John Harris really likes Chase Besantis out of A&M. This is what he says. This anonymous scout
13:13says he's a better athlete than Iowani. He's going to go much higher, uh, moves well, technique,
13:19sound guy gives good effort. Occasionally he'll play top heavy and get snatched down. It's good
13:23and pass broken, move his feet. Good punch gets out in space. Bottom of the first for me,
13:28where a lot of people have him going in the second round. Um, I had him, this is where the
13:33scout says
13:34he's a starter. This is a different scout. He's a starter. I had a mental note on him. That was
13:39a
13:39little bit of a concern. He's really good. He's powerful. Yeah. I, yeah. So I, this guy likes this
13:45guy, but he had a mental note on him. He doesn't give any more detail about that. I don't even
13:49know
13:49what that means. I mean, I know what it means. I know the category puts it into, but yeah,
13:54yeah. I know what it means to take a mental note, but this guy, like, what is your mental note
13:59on
13:59him? Oh no, no, no, no, no. I think I had a mental note on him. I think like, Hmm.
14:04That was a little
14:04bit of a concern. I think that he's talking about the mental side. Oh, okay. I got you. I got
14:09you.
14:10Okay. These coaches are giving these quotes kind of speaking in their own shorthand. And I think
14:14just in his category of mental, whatever the mental, the note about his mental side was,
14:20but that could be, that could be intelligence. That could be emotion. I have zero clue. So I'm
14:25just going to toss it out from Jersey. Cause the guy otherwise said he could be the best guard.
14:29He's big and nasty. He could be the best guard. If he's a first round talent, he could be the
14:32best
14:33guard. He's from, he's from New Jersey, huh? Yeah. Okay. So maybe that's what it was. Maybe he just,
14:38maybe he's one of these young guys that wants to think he's in the Sopranos. Yeah. Yeah. Or
14:42maybe it was like a, you know, the other famous offensive lineman from New Jersey, Christian
14:48Peters for just a complete whack job. Total whack job. Wait, no Christian Peters. Yeah. Jason
14:55Peters was the bro, the defensive line is Peter. Yeah. Yeah. Christian Peter was the offensive
15:00lineman who was a whack job. He was a total whack job. All right. This one is a big one.
15:04Emmanuel
15:05pregnant. I see a Texans name in the quote from the anonymous scout here. Oh yeah. Yeah. Name
15:10of a quote. I was like, you said that and I was like, no, it's anonymous, Sean. Uh, okay.
15:17Anonymous scout on Emmanuel pregnant quote. He's like Ed Ingram a little bit that the Vikings took.
15:24And now he's at Houston. He's a good enough athlete, but there's something missing. He's a
15:29little bit soft. He's on the ground a little bit. You wish he was a little bit more of a
15:33competitive
15:33player with better effort. He'll fall off a run block. Sometimes he's not real nasty,
15:38but he's a real good pass protector, good wide base. At the end of the day, you say, okay,
15:42this guy's probably a low level starter. Okay. That's a, that is not a, it's not a glowing
15:47review of a glowing review. I think it's in contrast with some of the other things I've read about
15:51Emmanuel pregnant. So the, the biggest concern with pregnant that I've seen in general is just his age
15:57partly. And that, yeah, I think, I think some people want, if they want a guy that's got more
16:03polished to him for a guy that's that old, but I see a lot of scouts say that, okay, he's
16:08a high
16:09floor guy. I feel consistently good about him. So yeah, everybody listening, remember we're kind
16:13of cherry picking some of the more dramatic. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, we're trying to, yeah. We're
16:17trying to grab your attention for sure. I he's got the biggest, like widest window of where we've
16:23seen mocked of all these guys you're talking about. Like, you know, the, all the guys we talked
16:27about Fano is generally viewed as a top 12 kind of guy. Caden Proctor has been in that
16:32sort of 25 to 40 range. You know, the Blake Miller goes 28th and half the drafts that we've
16:38seen. Cause that's where the Texans are picking. I've seen pregnant go anywhere from like five
16:42picks before the Texans to bottom of the second round. They're all over the place with pregnant
16:47out of Oregon. Yeah. I think that, um, I think that the whole part about it though, too, is
16:53that he like, he's the other write-ups you see on them. And what you'll see when you watch
16:58is that, that he's a prototypical downhill blocker, you know, that, that, that part of
17:05them, whether this scout in particular thinks he's gritty enough or not. I think that's how
17:09he profiles and that matches. Uh, we'll do one more here. Just because a lot of people
17:14want, uh, you know, and a lot of the center prospects, just, there wasn't a lot of, uh,
17:20there wasn't a lot of negativity I could find about him. This one, I, this one, I don't know
17:24if there's a typo or if I'm just stupid. Cause he says this anonymous scout says he's got
17:30to go to a zone scheme because he's a down block double team duo type of guy. We like a
17:37duo type of guy is like a more brutish physical. Let's get up. So I don't know what the hell's
17:42going on there. But I think the overall theme of this is because he's an undersized guy that
17:46he, he should go to a zone blocking scheme, which doesn't necessarily fit, uh, what it
17:51seems like Texans are trying to do. They'll run, you know, it's not like they're never
17:55going to run zone blocking scheme or anything, but it feels like they're really, they really
17:59want to get big brutish physical guys there. And that doesn't necessarily profile with what
18:04they've been going with what the Texans have been going for in the off season with Sam
18:08Hex. There you go, man. The, uh, so the anonymous scouts on the offensive line, I'll give you
18:12my, my, my 10 or 15 seconds summary of all this, Seth. Uh, I agree with you that there's
18:19a good chance. Caden Proctor might not be on the Texans board after all those quotes. Um,
18:24I'm less excited about Blake Miller. I would be cool with chase Besantis yet. None of these
18:31quotes get me. And I know, like you said, we're cherry picking things here that, that move
18:35the needle emotionally with people. Um, yeah, I'm, it's a good blind spot checker though.
18:41Yeah. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. It's a good blind spot. That's a good way to put
18:45it. When you're in the back end of the first round, everybody is there for a reason, whether
18:49it's physical or mental or whatever else it might be. So it's a good, uh, it's a good blind
18:54spot monitor to not get too excited about how these guys are going to be perennial all pros.
18:59Yep. Um, some of them will be, but most of them will not. Most of them will not. All right.
19:04Um,
19:04so easy segue then, as we, uh, move from the anonymous scouts, talking old lineman to the
19:09Texans GM talking old line, Nick Casario sat down with, uh, Mark and John on Texans all
19:15access. And they asked him about some of the newer Texans. This was Nick Casario kind of
19:20laying out the thought process on the moves they made. Wyatt Teller, uh, Braden Smith,
19:25bringing back Ed Ingram on the offensive line. Overall, I think, you know, re-signing some key
19:29players and I think re-signing Trent Ed, who was a part of the discussions and we were
19:33fortunate. We were able to get that resolved here kind of before free agency started,
19:37then made some additions there with some external players, um, who have been decent players at some
19:41other spots. So, um, you know, we'll continue to kind of put the team together. Um, say all those
19:46players, the players that we re-signed and the players that we signed externally and Wyatt and
19:50Braden have a lot of experience that played a lot of football. Um, and Evan Brown as well. I mean,
19:55I know he hadn't really been talked about, but there's a pretty versatile guy that started a number of
19:58games, played a lot of good football. So, um, overall, we're just trying to continually build
20:02the depth of the overall room and we're probably going to need eight to 10 of whomever is in the
20:08building, whomever is on the team. So, you know, we'll see what it looks like. He's not saying it
20:12there, but the, you know, the, you've pointed this out several times, Seth, uh, the quotes probably
20:19look on paper, very similar to the quotes that Nick had last year. Cause Nick never goes over the
20:24top. I won't say never goes over the top. He selectively goes over the top in praise for certain
20:28guys. Um, you know, he was very measured and talking about the O-line right there. And I would
20:33guess at the same juncture last year, when they'd signed, in my opinion, much lesser players than the
20:38ones they've signed this time around, it's probably sounded very much the same. The thing he didn't
20:43bring up really with these guys is these are just much more physical football players than the ones
20:49they had last year. No, I think that's, uh, that's a hundred percent the, what they were looking for
20:54and going for. And if you look at the guys that worked out the, the, the signings from last year
20:59that worked out and are still on the team are at Ingram is a very physical run blocker and Trent
21:06Brown, who offers a level of physicality just by sheer mass, uh, and a willingness to run, you know,
21:11run block and all of that. So that's, that's what in this two year process, they've been working
21:17towards, I think Wyatt Teller and Braden Smith are very much of those types of players.
21:22And I would expect in the draft, it's if they draft an offensive lineman, there's
21:26physicality is going to be in the scouting report. Yes. Uh, when we go back and now after the
21:30draft, what we do is we'll cherry pick only the positive comments from the guys, the Texans
21:37have taken. And I'm guessing that a lot of the anonymous scouts will, uh, no, we'll, we'll read
21:42the negative ones too. Um, but I'm guessing some of the positive ones are going to be related
21:46to physicality. Yep. Um, here's Nick Casario on, we heard Dan Campbell earlier in the show on David
21:51Montgomery. Here's Nick Casario on the Texans big pickup at, um, running back, which was David
21:58Montgomery. David's been as consistent and productive a player at that position as, as
22:02there's been in a league over the last few years. So, um, you know, that was a player that we
22:07had
22:07the good fortune of playing against and or practicing with and or against. So there was some familiarity
22:13and even going back to, you know, when he came out, um, Iowa state played for coach Campbell,
22:18who we have a lot of respect for his program and his track record with players. So that's all part
22:23of the calculus. That's all part of the evaluation when we're looking to bring players into the
22:27building. Uh, you had to bring up Iowa state, man. You had to bring up Matt Campbell. So we're
22:32now the Penn state immediately becomes the pipeline for Texans players after guys have spent a couple
22:37of years with Matt Campbell, or even just as that guys that, you know, Matt Campbell gives a positive
22:42appraisal of to Nick Casario. There's a good chance they're going to end up on the Texans.
22:45He is very high up the list of college head coaches that Nick Casario trusts, uh, to develop guys for
22:52sure. It is, uh, there is kind of a, you start to get a feel for the coaches that I
22:59think D'Amico
23:00and Casario feel like, all right, this guy coaches in a certain way that we want the, that these
23:06players respond to a certain type of coaching. Um, and then also just the actual football education
23:11side of things, guys that play defense at Georgia, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, they, they, they like guys
23:16like that. And then the irony that you point out frequently, which is, and USC, you know,
23:22it was schools where the, the, the defense is a bunch of dogs and the coach is a dog in
23:30a good way,
23:31all those things. And then they draft a bunch of guys that played for Lincoln Riley where they,
23:35I feel like they think there's untapped potential there. I had honestly, I was always kind of a
23:40shock to me. Remember when, I mean, the Texas university of Texas went through that stretch
23:45where they would just have the best recruiting class every year. And then very few of them would
23:49end up getting drafted. I was always surprised that, that there weren't more teams that would
23:53still say, all right, look, clearly Texas isn't doing everything they can with these recruits,
23:59but there's still talent there. I was surprised some of the years where so few of them got drafted was
24:04a little bit alarming, but part of that too, is that, you know, the five-star system is,
24:09it's flawed in here. It's inaccurate. Yeah. No question. No question. There's a whole lot of,
24:14okay, Texas is they're recruiting out of a recruiting guide more so than really finding
24:18guys that fit their system. That's right. Back in the day. That's right. A couple more from
24:22Casario here. This is from Texans all access. This is Nick Casario on a tight end. They picked up
24:27Foster Moreau. Foster kind of has an interesting sort of history, kind of some of the things that he's
24:32had to endure physically and, you know, his background. Everybody's probably studied it
24:36there a little bit, but there was a period of time when, you know, he was one of the better
24:40tight ends in the league, probably a little bit underrated. So kind of had some injuries and had
24:44the, obviously the cancer diagnosis that's kind of affected his play. But overall, I mean,
24:48everybody has spoken about his leadership and just team first mentality. So hopefully he can add
24:54some things to that group. Okay. And he, and we know Foster Moreau loves a firm handshake.
25:01That's right. He likes D'Amico's firm. D'Amico's strong handshake. Yeah.
25:06I wonder the, he, him being one of the best tight ends in the league. I wonder like how that
25:12jives
25:12with wherever various power rankings were in anything back in his first few years.
25:16Yeah. I, I don't recall. I mean, I'm just coming at this purely like as a fantasy football player,
25:21you know, I don't ever remember Foster Moreau getting, you know, showing up on my draft board
25:26or anything. I don't know. I mean, his career high in receptions is 33 back in 2022 with the
25:31Raiders. And part of it is like, you're toiling in anonymity with the Raiders, perhaps that the
25:36combo, the combo blocking slash receiving threat was maybe a lot more highly regarded, uh, you know,
25:42amongst people who are watching the entire league than, than us, the public at large. Yep. Yep.
25:47So that was, uh, Casario on Foster Moreau last one here from Nick Casario. This is Casario on,
25:53uh, the one pickup. The Texans made big pickup. The Texans made on the defensive side of the ball
25:59safety, Reed Blankenship. It's got a pretty cool story. There's a player that's a good example player
26:02wasn't drafted. He's kind of had a good career to this point. Um, he's been a part of a lot
26:07of
26:07winning, um, won a Superbowl, um, in Philadelphia. Um, I think everybody that you talked to talked
26:13about his awareness, his instinctiveness, um, and just kind of adding a certain level of just calm
26:19to the secondary. Um, that was a player that, you know, we had studied, we evaluated and our coaches
26:24kind of took a liking to him. So we're able to kind of make it work. Um, you know, so
26:29hopefully
26:29Reed can come in and, you know, we're really, we're not going to ask these players to do anything more
26:32than what they've already done to this point. Um, but, you know, Reed's got a pretty cool story,
26:37kind of his background and kind of where, where he started to where he is now. It speaks a lot
26:41about
26:41who he is as a person and a player. Yeah. Undrafted out of middle Tennessee state is pretty much what
26:45Nick's referring to there. You know, he's, he is, he's the ultimate, you know, he's the extreme
26:50outlier in the NFL. He's an undrafted guy. Who's gotten a nice second con second contract in his
26:55career. I think with, uh, with safety, especially Nick mentioning that the coaches really took him
27:01like took a liking to him. It reminds me a little bit of the way that defensive coaches,
27:05I think sometimes talk about nose tackles that, uh, especially back in the day when the nose
27:10tackle position meant more was that the coaches, there's certain things that a safety or a nose
27:15tackle or a middle linebacker, really anybody up like right up the core of the middle. There's
27:20things that, that there's things that defensive coaches appreciate more than scouts do because
27:26it's kind of the yeoman's work that, that ties everything together and you might not rack up a
27:32bunch of stats, but it's really, really important that things are consistent there. So I could imagine
27:37maybe there's some things that Matt Burke and D'Amico Ryan see out of Reed Blankenship that
27:41don't jump off the screen to either personnel types or the casual observer, but the D'Amico
27:47really thinks that they need. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so that's Nick Casario on some of the
27:52newer guys. Um, the league meetings are going on right now in Arizona. I would say probably the
27:57biggest news coming out of those meetings yesterday, Seth, and I, there'll be all kinds of
28:02audio coming out today. I would imagine D'Amico Ryan's meets with the media this morning. I believe
28:07Nick Casario's meeting with the media too. He obviously sat down with John Harris and Mark
28:11Vandermeer who were at the league meetings. Yeah. I think D'Amico's doing his little, uh,
28:14awkward breakfast, a little breakfast round table thing. Supposedly the coach is supposed to eat his
28:20breakfast while talking to a bunch of media types. And I just, I feel it's one of these rare
28:26instances where I feel bad for NFL head coaches. What do you think D'Amico eats for breakfast? You think
28:31eats like a big hearty country breakfast? Cause he's a, you know, Bessemer, Alabama guy, or you
28:35think he's, you think Casario's kind of had an influence on him where it's like blueberries and
28:40yogurt kind of, no, I think with D'Amico, it's probably always about moderation. I think, uh,
28:44that he's not afraid of bacon, but he's only going to have two strips of bacon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
28:49Definitely some fruit and maybe, uh, just some kind of like a, like an actual, uh, a single serving
28:56size of oatmeal. Makes sense. Not the, which, which is a foreign concept to me because for me,
29:02it's the largest Tupperware you can find. Oh, I've watched you. Yeah, no, I've watched you. So I
29:07think it's a, I think it's like a nothing, nothing spectacularly. It's not like he's eating like a
29:12monk, but he's also not gorging himself. Yeah. Just a standard American breakfast,
29:17but in the right portions. He is a shredded, yoked dude for sure.
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