00:00On NFL.com, I think it was NFL.com, they had an article, Eric Edholm does a good job on
00:07there.
00:07Who is the next Hall of Famer for each of the 32 NFL teams?
00:13And there wasn't a lot of suspense in looking at this article through a Texans lens.
00:19Unless something crazy happens, J.J. Watt will go into the Hall of Fame the first chance he gets in
00:242028, I would imagine.
00:26So that was an easy one for the Texans.
00:28I guess the more interesting question would be, who's the next Texan after J.J. Watt to go into the
00:34Hall of Fame?
00:34Is there one right now?
00:36Is it on this team?
00:38Is it DeAndre Hopkins?
00:41What's the scuttlebutt about DeAndre Hopkins?
00:44Has he been enough of a compiler to get there?
00:47Well, I long thought when he was a Texan, he was on a similar track to Andre Johnson.
00:53And obviously, since he left the Texans, he hasn't been as productive as he was.
00:57He was good his first couple of years in Arizona.
00:59I think he was a pro bowler or an all-pro again his first year in Arizona.
01:03I just think receiver, you know, look, he was a three-time first-team all-pro.
01:07And I think he was second-team at least one, if not two other times.
01:11That many all-pros will at least get you into conversations.
01:14You know, you're in that Reggie Wayne – you're not only – you're in the Reggie Wayne,
01:20Torrey Holt category.
01:21And with DeAndre, it's doing it with a slew of quarterbacks, kind of like Andre back in the day,
01:27you know, where Andre Johnson never had Peyton Manning or Kurt Warner throwing him the ball.
01:32Actual Hall of Famers.
01:33I think if – this is the one that I think people right now, if you ask, is Daniil Hunter
01:41a Hall of Famer?
01:42That's a good one.
01:43Around the league, people might – people are going to say, oh, I've got to think about that.
01:48Let me think about that for a minute.
01:50Because he's just never gotten a whole lot of attention despite being very prolific, very fun to watch,
01:57all of those things, whether it's just the fact that he's kind of playing in the –
02:01the national media doesn't like to pay a whole lot of attention to the Vikings.
02:05He's quiet, too.
02:06That doesn't help.
02:07And he's quiet, doesn't call a lot of attention to himself.
02:08But if he were to get 10 sacks this year and 10 sacks next year,
02:14which given his health and his fitness and everything else,
02:19the fact that he was as good as he was last year, I think that's really reasonable,
02:23that he's going to play at least two more years.
02:24He hasn't missed a game in four seasons.
02:26Yeah.
02:27So if he only got 10 sacks in the last couple of years – in the next two years,
02:32he would be 18th, 19th on the all-time sack list.
02:37That's nine – if he gets at least 10 sacks the next two years,
02:41that's nine double-digit sack seasons for him.
02:43Every guy above him at that point, if he were that guy.
02:49So he would be above John Abraham.
02:51And John Abraham was like – he's an interesting one because he's –
02:55he was never as great a player as he was at getting sacks.
02:58And I think there's like – there's a style of play element there that –
03:03Like Simeon Rice back in the day with Tampa.
03:05Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:06But every guy above him at that point is either a current or future Hall of Famer.
03:13Yeah.
03:13I think because Von Miller – the guys who aren't in the Hall of Fame above him.
03:18So if he gets 20 sacks over the next two years, he would be 19th.
03:22And Von Miller, Terrell Suggs, who –
03:27They're both going in at some point.
03:28They're going to be in the Hall of Fame at some point.
03:31And that's it.
03:32Everybody else is in the Hall of Fame unless I'm reading it wrong.
03:34That's a great one, Seth.
03:35That's the one.
03:36That's the answer to the question right there.
03:38It's – it's Daniel Hunter.
03:41If I had to put my money on somebody, you know, if I had to bet on somebody.
03:44You know, the other one – the other interesting one,
03:47to the degree that you take credit for somebody's career,
03:50like some of these teams do.
03:51You know when we do five reasons I hate you during the season
03:53and one of the things I've started to do is see which teams take credit
03:57for guys going into the Hall of Fame when they played like two games
04:00for that organization?
04:02If Stefan Diggs goes in, do we – do we use those eight games he played
04:07as a Texan as any sort of like, well, it's Diggs, obviously.
04:11He was a Houston Texan for half a season.
04:13Sure.
04:14Yeah.
04:14I wouldn't do that.
04:15Daniel Hunter is obviously way more Texan than Stefan Diggs is.
04:18Daniel Hunter's gotten – maybe it's because we're closer to it
04:21and we cover him every day.
04:23It feels like Daniel Hunter's gotten more attention the last two years as a Texan
04:27than he did the previous five years as a Minnesota Viking.
04:31Yeah, yeah.
04:32Because of his defense that he's playing on.
04:34Yeah, and honestly, too, I think in Minnesota there was also a little bit of the –
04:43well, they blitz a lot.
04:45Okay, so how often is he having to beat one-on-one, you know,
04:50how often is he really just winning versus taking advantage of being part of one of the,
04:54you know, five or six guys that rush in the passer?
04:56Yeah.
04:56With Houston, yes, he gets the benefit of having Will Anderson on the side of him,
05:00but Will Anderson also gets the benefit of having Daniel Hunter on the other side of him.
05:03Oh, yeah, yeah, the eye test is crazy here.
05:05Yeah, and when you're on a defense, it's as good as they are,
05:08and when the driving force – as opposed to Minnesota where a lot of times
05:13it was more of a blitz-based scheme.
05:17Yeah.
05:18Here it's more, oh, the defensive line is the driving force of it,
05:22and they'll talk a lot about Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter, obviously.
05:25Yep, yep.
05:26The other AFC South ones are interesting.
05:28Again, this is an Eric Edholm article,
05:30who is the next Hall of Famer for all 32 teams.
05:33I looked at all of them.
05:34Like, some of them are – it's kind of depressing if you're fans of some of these teams.
05:37Like, we don't have any.
05:38We have nobody to look forward to.
05:40In the division, Indianapolis, Reggie Wayne,
05:44who Andre Johnson has kept out of the Hall of Fame for a few – or did, you know, by
05:49getting in.
05:49It was Reggie Wayne, Torrey Holt, and Andre Johnson for, like,
05:52the three years that Andre was eligible before he got in,
05:55and Andre gets in before both of those guys.
05:57Reggie Wayne, a former teammate of his at Miami.
06:00Jackson – I want to bring this up, Seth,
06:01because the Jacksonville one is Fred Taylor, who was a teammate of yours.
06:05Yeah.
06:05Fred Taylor feels like he's near the top of that best player not in the Hall of Fame list right
06:12now.
06:12Yeah, and I think with Fred, it's – I think one of the things that hurt him was that
06:16when he was in his prime on good teams, that's when he was getting injured all the time.
06:21Yeah.
06:21And then – but then he ended up putting really respectable numbers after that,
06:26and he ended up, for a guy that was so injury-prone early in his year,
06:29was kind of a compiler for a long time as a guy that was part of tandem committees
06:33or a backup of the – he was with the Patriots for at least one year, wasn't he?
06:37Yes.
06:37Yeah, yeah.
06:38Where does he stack up on all-time rushing and all of that?
06:41He's, like, in the – he's in the teens somewhere, but this I know,
06:45that Fred Taylor is the all-time leading rusher who's either not in the Hall of Fame
06:51or will soon be in the Hall of Fame.
06:53You know what I mean?
06:54Like, everybody ahead of him –
06:55No, that's where – if you go again, yeah, he's –
06:58for all-time rushing leaders, he's 18th.
07:0118th, okay.
07:02He's 18th, and every guy – every guy above him is in the Hall of Fame
07:09except for Adrian Peterson.
07:12Yep.
07:13And Frank Gore.
07:14And Frank Gore, yeah.
07:15Yeah.
07:15And Frank Gore is the ultimate compiler.
07:17Ultimate.
07:17I don't think Frank Gore – Frank Gore was never – the problem with Frank Gore
07:20is he was never at any given point in his career one of the very best running backs in the
07:25league.
07:25No.
07:25You know, he was on some good teams, and he was impressive and everything.
07:29You know, Adrian Peterson is eligible this year?
07:33Is this –
07:33I'm not sure.
07:34It's coming up.
07:35He was – 2021 was his last year.
07:36Okay, yeah, so it's coming up.
07:38It's either – yeah, it's usually five years, so maybe this year.
07:40So, yeah, that's where Fred is.
07:41Fred's right at that dividing line.
07:43Yeah.
07:43But then you go down below Fred, and in terms of especially modern running backs,
07:47Fred Taylor's not in.
07:49Steven Jackson's not in.
07:51John Riggins is in.
07:52Yeah.
07:53But then, you know, you keep – Corey Dillon is not in.
07:56O.J. Simpson, still in.
07:58Still in.
07:59Because they don't factor in off-the-field stuff.
08:03Yeah, no, and so both John Riggins and O.J. Simpson are from a bygone era.
08:07Right.
08:08Like, Fred Taylor is the cutoff.
08:10Thurman Thomas is in.
08:11Yeah.
08:11He's right above Fred Taylor in all-time rushing yards.
08:14Then it's Fred Taylor and the vast – like, there's like 10 modern-era players below him
08:19who aren't in the Hall of Fame.
08:20Yeah, and you bring up Thurman Thomas right above him, too.
08:23You'd like – it accentuates the fact that Fred Taylor didn't play on any –
08:28didn't play – to my knowledge, didn't play in a Super Bowl.
08:31You know, I don't know if the Patriots team he was on went or not, but it wasn't a factor
08:35in a Super Bowl.
08:36It also speaks to just how much less shine or importance is attached to the running back position anymore
08:43that those guys – it used to be back in the day, there were a lot of drafts
08:48where you might have five running backs drafted in the first round and maybe one quarterback.
08:53It was like, that's who people wanted.
08:54That's who were the engine of your team.
08:56And a lot of these guys from the modern era, even though they've amassed a bunch of yardage,
09:01I guess they're just – they're not viewed as impactful or as Hall of Fame worthy.
09:05No, yeah.
09:06Back in the day, Earl Campbell was the first overall pick in the draft,
09:09and everybody thought he should be the first overall pick in the draft back in the day.
09:13Different time, for sure, for sure.
09:16The ones – okay, the other one in the division that we didn't get to,
09:19and we're going to break it a little early here because Heidi Watney's calling in at 8.20
09:23to talk about the Astros and the Cubs.
09:26But Tennessee –
09:28Bud Adams.
09:30Oh!
09:31Bud Adams, contributor.
09:32Yes.
09:32So would he be – he would go in based especially on being part of the old –
09:37Merger.
09:38Yeah.
09:38Yeah.
09:39He was a co-founder of the AFL, critical to the AFL-NFL merger.
09:43He owned the Oilers franchise slash Titans for 54 years, 21 playoff teams.
09:49The lack of a Super Bowl title has hurt his cause,
09:52and Adams has often been overshadowed by Lamar Hunt in terms of credit for the AFL.
09:56But recent momentum suggests Adam could break through in the coming years.
09:59I know McLean has said for a long time that Bud Adams should be in the Hall of Fame,
10:03much to the chagrin of everybody here in Houston.
10:06Yeah.
10:06Because McLean has knowledge and is intimately aware of that portion of history
10:12that Bud Adams was part of back in the day.
10:14Part of the pioneer in terms of playing in an enclosed stadium as well.
10:19Indeed. Indeed. Yeah, yeah.
10:20I don't know if you know about the history of the Astrodome, Sean.
10:23Tell me more.
10:24Were you aware that it's still in existence?
10:27Painfully so, yes.
10:29Big time.
10:30If you want to visit it, you can go look at it.
10:33I'm aware.
10:33Anytime you want.
10:34You can drive right up to it.
10:35I know, I know.
10:36Just get that hazmat suit on and run inside and hang around with all the feral cats.
10:40It's great.
10:40Didn't they catch some kids in there a while back?
10:42Yes, they did.
10:44I think they were content generators.
10:46I think they were like TikTokers or something like that.
10:48I don't remember the exact story, but they did.
10:51Yeah, yeah.
10:52Good stuff.
10:52Idiots.
10:53Good stuff.
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