00:00For Harris, though, somebody within the NFL circle said this to me last night.
00:05He's like, dude, he's a D.C. kid that grew up and bought the Redskins.
00:09You don't think he's excited about it?
00:10He's happy as hell.
00:11You know what I mean?
00:12See, the difference is this.
00:13It's a business.
00:14It's cutthroat.
00:15There's a million things.
00:16But that dude accomplished like a dream.
00:18He accomplished a dream, and guess what?
00:21It's not like he has to worry about producing for the boss.
00:27He's the boss.
00:28He's about to build a new stadium.
00:30They got new things coming.
00:32He always discusses the past of his team, and he's bringing all that stuff together.
00:36He can be happy and discuss everything.
00:39Every time Adam or Dan speak, they have to be a little cognizant of what they may say
00:47and what they may not say.
00:49100%.
00:49So they got to always worry.
00:52Josh don't have to worry.
00:53Dude, it's funny you say that because we were kind of laughing about
00:58how relaxed Harris seemed talking with us.
01:02And one of the guys in the group is like, yeah, he doesn't have a boss.
01:05You know what I mean?
01:07Yeah.
01:07I mean, think about how different that is.
01:09It is so different when you are discussing something at your house,
01:15and then when you get to work, you discuss something.
01:18You know what I mean?
01:19You know, people you got to worry about watching all this stuff,
01:22and somebody else is telling you what the rules of engagement are.
01:27At your house, you decide what that is.
01:29Right.
01:30You know what I'm saying?
01:31Like, exactly.
01:33But Harris, there's a passion and an excitement that, and honestly,
01:39I can't state enough, just on a professional level.
01:46Brian, on some level, I'm professional, right?
01:48Like, this is a job.
01:51The difference in the interaction now with what it was before.
01:56And Harris came in, and, you know, you know the usual suspects
02:02that were involved in this lunch we had with Harris.
02:07And he led off his remarks by thanking us for making the trip.
02:10He doesn't have to do that.
02:12Like, if you're going to talk, dude, we're going to go where you're available.
02:15But there's just a level of humanity and civility,
02:20and it's just very different, and I applaud him for it.
02:23When you work to build your fortune,
02:28you have way more respect than when something falls in your lap.
02:31Right.
02:32Yeah, well said.
02:34And the topics that were by far the most, you know,
02:41kind of prescient in the Harris conversation
02:44were the new uniforms and the new stadium.
02:46And I think, I mean, hell, we can open the phone lines
02:50and let people yell about the center position if we want,
02:53but I think the new uniforms and the new stadium
02:55are way more interesting,
02:58and especially with the uniforms, like, way more urgent.
03:02Like, they're coming out in two weeks.
03:05So I believe my man Jeffrey has Josh Harris talking about the new commander's uniforms.
03:16Yeah, it's, the priority is honoring our past
03:19and then looking to the future, right, updating,
03:23but not forgetting about our heritage, who we are, and honoring that.
03:29And so we have a bunch of things up our sleeve.
03:32I don't want to ruin the surprise, but we're going to continue to, you know,
03:36go back and try to embrace our past, but then update it.
03:40And so stay tuned.
03:44B. Mitch, what do you think the tricks up their sleeves are?
03:47Because I don't know.
03:48I legitimately don't know, and I'm very curious.
03:50I don't know.
03:52I don't know what tricks up the sleeve they could be.
03:56I couldn't tell you that.
03:58So we're in straight-up speculation land, and nobody really knows.
04:02Do you think, so, and there's also, like, it's crazy how the NFL operates,
04:09but, like, there's all these rules and protocols,
04:13but we don't actually know what they are.
04:15Like, I don't believe there's, like, a website I could go find
04:19that would stipulate all of the NFL rules around uniforms.
04:24Like, it exists somewhere, but it's not necessarily public.
04:27You know what I'm saying?
04:28Uh-huh.
04:29So that said, like, we don't know exactly how long they have to wait
04:36to redo uniforms, or can you redo an alternate helmet, stuff like that.
04:41Mm-hmm.
04:42On a scale of just relatively, to me, I don't know if you'll agree with this,
04:50I think we're getting to a world where the whites and the burgundies
04:56are the ones you used to wear.
04:58Just getting back to basics that were awesome.
05:01Mm-hmm.
05:01And they'll be modernized, and they'll be different, you know,
05:05the shoulders, like, the arms will be tighter, and, like, they'll be modernized.
05:09They'll look like modern uniforms compared to what they were.
05:12Yeah.
05:12But by and large, it's going to look like what you wore, what Monty Coleman wore,
05:18what Santana Moss wore.
05:19Like, the Super Bowl-era uniforms.
05:21Yeah.
05:22I very much think that's what's going to happen.
05:26I don't find that particularly radical.
05:29Do you?
05:30No, it's not radical.
05:31It's just, like, when they made the change to go away from it,
05:35they kind of, they thought it was subtle, but it was drastic when they got,
05:39the color was no longer burgundy.
05:40It was red.
05:42And it looked totally different.
05:45Like, Washington uniforms were classic, and they looked like Washington.
05:50What changed up with the changes they made it to, it looked like the Cardinals,
05:55it looked like the damn Falcons, the Steelers.
05:58You looked like somebody else.
06:00You didn't look like you.
06:01So if they go back to what it was, now you do have that about the classic look
06:05of your own.
06:06Then they may throw something in.
06:07Like, when you do an alt uniform, I can understand.
06:11Right.
06:11You know?
06:13Something like that.
06:14That's cool.
06:14But when you make the permanent ones look like somebody else's stuff,
06:18ain't cool.
06:19The white jerseys looked like Louisville was playing Wake Forest on a Thursday
06:26night, 9 o'clock ESPN game.
06:29And that was, like, the Louisville alternate.
06:31The burgundy was close, but you couldn't see the damn names and numbers,
06:38which was so infuriating.
06:40Yeah.
06:40And the blacks, like, I got no beef with the blacks.
06:43Like, you're supposed to have an alternate.
06:45That's your alternate.
06:46I don't love the W on the forehead of the helmet, but we're really getting down in
06:51the weeds here.
06:53But my larger point is, I think they're getting back to the classics.
06:58Because at some point, like, there's a timelessness to certain things in the world.
07:05Like, you know, Wayfarers, the Ray-Ban sunglasses.
07:09Like, John F. Kennedy wore those in 1960, and they're still cool today because they're timeless.
07:17Like, some things are just timeless.
07:19And the old skins, uniforms, the real burgundy and gold look fantastic.
07:24And they look way better than the terrible 2-2-22 rebrand.
07:28And I think they recognize that and are going back to it.
07:31I'm curious what else they might be doing.
07:34A black tuxedo with a white shirt and a black bow tie or a black tie still looks damn good
07:41after all these years.
07:42You don't have to go get all the fancy fancy to look good.
07:45You put on a black tuxedo or just a black suit with a white crisp shirt and a tie or
07:53bow tie, and guess what people say?
07:55Damn, he looked good.
07:57Like, you couldn't be...
07:59The classics still hit.
08:00You couldn't be more correct.
08:02Like, if Jay Gatsby could wear that in the Roaring Twenties and I could wear it last weekend
08:07to a boxing event, it still slaps.
08:10You put on a navy suit with a red tie, Ronald Reagan's going to call on you in the presser,
08:15and it still works today.
08:16Some things just work.
08:17And I think Washington's previous uniform scheme worked.
08:24The current one is just dysfunctional on a lot of different levels.
08:28And some of it, because...
08:31I'm not going to sugarcoat this.
08:33I think the people involved really, really botched the rebrand.
08:37I don't think they did it from a place of malice.
08:40But they were also trying something new, right?
08:42And generally, people don't love new.
08:46They like what they know.
08:48So there's a level of, like, uncomfortability in relaunching something.
08:52So, like, I recognize that.
08:56But here's my question.
08:57And I want to ask the boys in the aquarium.
08:59I want to check in with everybody here.
09:01I think we all have an expectation of them returning to the classics,
09:05of getting this back to what we knew functionality.
09:09But they want to honor the past and look to the future.
09:12What else might they be doing?
09:15That's my biggest question.
09:17They've already rolled out the Super Bowl era, like, white jerseys.
09:20Like, those are coming back.
09:22Period.
09:22They're already sort of back.
09:24What else could this be?
09:26Especially the fact that there's a new helmet.
09:29Like, they had a new helmet in the teaser video.
09:33There's a box with a helmet in there.
09:35That's not us making something up.
09:37They're revealing that.
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