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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 4 Episode 9
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00:10¡Gracias por ver!
00:30He was, like, texting me all day this day.
00:31He came over to your house.
00:32And he's saying, thank you for letting me crash at your house.
00:34And he came over that night to my house this by the night and fucked me.
00:37So, yeah.
00:37And on top of that, I have a pickleball tournament.
00:40Shania was, like, pouring her heart out to Taylor.
00:42And then that same night, Shania goes and sleeps with Taylor's baby daddy.
00:45Update me.
00:46He got back with his wife.
00:47This is why I can't trust people.
00:50Oh, gosh.
00:51This is so bad.
00:52If this comes out, it's all good.
00:54Like, I just feel like it's going to spiral.
00:56And I also think Dakota wants everything to come out.
00:57He does.
00:58Once again, I'm caught in the middle between two friends and betrayal going on there.
01:03I have known Shania for nearly a decade.
01:08Truly, like, a ride-or-die type of friendship.
01:10Was this a massive lapse in judgment for her?
01:14Absolutely.
01:15But at the end of the day, even though I don't agree with her, I obviously love and care for
01:19her.
01:20She's going to find out.
01:21There's no way she's not.
01:22Either he's going to tell her or we are.
01:23You guys, we have your party tomorrow and we're with her.
01:25How is it not coming out?
01:27I think the truth will always come out.
01:28And I just feel like if we can possibly cushion her finding out, I think it possibly could be better.
01:33I think the best person coming from is Shania, for sure.
01:36I'm actually scared for Shania.
01:37I am, too.
01:38I'm scared for her.
01:39She's going to get eaten up.
01:40Is Shania going to Sinner Sunday?
01:42Is she invited?
01:43I don't know.
01:43I didn't invite her because I'm not like a friend.
01:45Would that be the time to tell Taylor?
01:47It might be the time.
01:49I think it's a pro to do it while people are around because then she won't overreact.
01:53Oh, true.
01:53Oh, yeah.
01:54That actually might be a good idea.
01:56Then we can also explain why we didn't tell her.
01:58Taylor's still in Colorado, but she's coming home soon.
02:01So with The Bachelorette coming up, Macy's Sinner Sunday event, and the main title shoot,
02:05to be honest, this news could really shake her up and we have to handle it the right way.
02:09Miranda, you need to ask her if she'll come and tell her tomorrow.
02:11Well, since when she called me this morning, she's like, I want to tell Taylor I feel like
02:14she should know.
02:15I was like, hey, I got to get going because I need to stop by Home Depot and get a
02:18bigger
02:18shovel so I can get a head start on both of your fucking graves.
02:21You're a dead man.
02:22Both of you.
02:22You're dead.
02:23And there's nothing I can do to save you.
02:26Oh.
02:30Oh.
02:42I've got everything you could ever want.
02:45Try me, see, I'll bring you to your knees.
02:49Baby, you're gonna believe.
03:00Baby, you're gonna believe.
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09:39I'm not trying to do it to hurt you. It's not a dig at you.
09:42It's really just about the name.
09:43You're not vindictive, but I do think you're selfish.
09:46That's great.
09:48It's just the way I feel.
09:49It's not being condescending.
09:50It's not condescending.
09:51It's just genuinely the way that I feel.
09:53If I was condescending, I would say other things.
09:56That's what scares me.
09:57I feel like it's always under the surface, like the stuff you want to say,
10:00and you're just not because you know you can't.
10:01No, because that's not who I am anymore, and I've proven that.
10:02A lot of my issues coordinate with you making decisions that are selfish.
10:07You know, deep down, I think we both know that going by my maiden name Draper
10:11gives me freedom again, which I feel like I haven't had in a long time.
10:15If I start going by Draper now, if we did get divorced in the future,
10:19it wouldn't be a huge change for my career.
10:21So I do just kind of feel like it's the safest thing to do right now.
10:25It feels selfish, and that's okay.
10:27You told me it was selfish yourself.
10:47You ready to hit some balls?
10:49Sure am.
10:50Ready to whoop your ass?
10:50Oh, did I hit the curb?
10:52I thought you did hit the curb.
10:53Oh, well, it's fine.
10:54It's fine.
10:54My Center Sunday event is tonight, and honestly, my stress levels are at an all-time high
10:58because I know that Shania is coming, and she's about to confess her wrongdoing with Dakota.
11:03So I definitely need to blow off some steam, so I'm taking a little tennis lesson.
11:07I thought it would be fun for us to just, you know, hit some balls and grunt a little bit.
11:13I'm just kidding.
11:16Oh, hi, Danny.
11:17Let's go, Cougars.
11:18Do you call us Cougars?
11:20Cougars.
11:20Oh, Cougars.
11:21You're a Cougar nut, too.
11:22All right.
11:23Now that I have been kind of far removed from tennis for the last seven years, I kind of stopped
11:27once my college career ended, and I honestly miss it so much.
11:30My prime is here.
11:31No way.
11:32You don't even know what I got.
11:33This is the start of my new career, right?
11:37You ready for this?
11:38Tell me.
11:39Prepare to be amazed.
11:41All right.
11:42And it came so fast.
11:43Tennis here.
11:44It's time for my tennis career to take off once again.
11:49Are you going to start playing again?
11:50Yeah.
11:51There we go.
11:56Oh, you're there.
11:57Ah!
11:58Give me another.
11:59Yep.
12:00You're doing great.
12:01Thank you.
12:02There we go.
12:03There we go.
12:03There she is.
12:06How does it feel to be back out here?
12:08It feels good, but I feel like I'm in slow motion.
12:10Did I tell you I'm back to therapy?
12:12You did?
12:13Well, we did, like, a couples therapy thing.
12:15How was that?
12:16I mean, it was fine.
12:17I feel like I just, I feel like I'm at a point where, like, when I get really angry, I'm
12:22like, okay, fine, then go have sex with someone.
12:23Like, leave me alone, almost.
12:25Like, no, like, actually, like, I'm like, I feel like I'm working on so many different things outside of just
12:30sex, and I know that, obviously, he can't just be like, okay, well, we can just go without that.
12:33We both get to a point where we feel really helpless about it, because he's like, I feel like you
12:37don't have the motivation to do it, and I'm like, I don't think I have the motivation to do it
12:40right now, because I know that it's really hard to work through.
12:43Jace and I haven't made really any progress as far as our intimacy and our sex life goes.
12:49I'm obviously very attracted to Jace, and I want to be married to him.
12:52It makes me sad that I'm not able to meet his needs, and I know that there's only so long
12:57that he can be patient with me for.
13:03Hey, there he is.
13:06What's up, my guy?
13:08How are you doing?
13:10I'm not bad.
13:11How are you?
13:11So, I just wanted to get your advice.
13:16It's between Michaela and I, we're still kind of dealing with the same struggles that we've been dealing with for
13:21a long time.
13:22The intimacy side of our relationship.
13:24It feels like we both kind of feel like we're stuck.
13:27I mean, yeah, man, that's a scary thing to be in right now, and I feel for you.
13:32Kissing is harder for me than sex, because I think kissing is more intimate for me, and I obviously have
13:37triggers with kissing.
13:38Sometimes I'll go through the day, and I'm holding down the fort, like you, I'm holding down the fort at
13:43home, and then also we just had this newborn, and I'm doing everything I can.
13:47And sometimes when Michaela will come home, and she'll want for me then to start taking care of her, which
13:53I want to do, but I need to take care of my needs also.
13:59But also, it's not fair for me, like, if I'm not feeling like working on it, to, like, keep dragging
14:04it along, like, yeah, I'm going to work on it eventually.
14:06Well, like, what would you do then? Like, just separate?
14:09I don't know.
14:10What are you wanting? What do you want, man?
14:25I'm sorry.
14:31More than anything, and more than, like, the actual sex, I just want to feel like I can connect with
14:38my wife again.
14:40Yeah.
14:42And I want to feel, um, I want to feel loved by my wife.
14:48That's got to feel incredibly lonely and isolating.
14:52We're stuck in this place that we've been stuck in for, like, four years.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Should I just go away from the house for a couple weeks and not have the pressures of trying to
15:01fix the intimacy issues right now?
15:03But I have this baby.
15:05I want to focus on being the best mom for her and being the best wife.
15:09But I'm also lost because I don't know how to handle it.
15:12And part of me is, like, I want to be done, but I also know I don't want to be
15:14done.
15:15So I'm like, what do I do?
15:16I don't know.
15:16I don't know.
15:36Hello?
15:37Hi.
15:38Hey.
15:38I'm going to ask you one time.
15:40How long have you known?
15:41I took this trip to Colorado.
15:44It was healing.
15:45I was feeling better.
15:46She's such a slut-bag hoe to me.
15:47Like, I almost thought it was a joke.
15:49I thought it was a joke because I'm going to fucking ruin her.
15:52Dakota and I were texting, and I find out that Dakota's sleeping with Shania.
15:55I'm sorry.
15:56I don't even care what this does to me.
15:58I act on impulse, unfortunately.
16:00So I don't give a fuck.
16:01After he told me everything, I was like, it's all on purpose.
16:03It's not like he's trying to go out and move on.
16:05It's who it is to get at me.
16:07And it's disgusting again, and it takes me back again.
16:11It's fucking gross.
16:12You have to admit.
16:13You have to admit.
16:14I haven't...
16:15I couldn't...
16:16I could not agree more with you.
16:18And she knows that, and I've said that to her.
16:19Then why did she do it?
16:20I wish I knew.
16:25And I'm sorry.
16:27For what?
16:29That I didn't say anything sooner, but I also...
16:33Well, so you guys all left to Dakota to tell me.
16:38Right before I leave.
16:39I thought there was maybe loyalty on MomTalk and, like, to me, it's the sneakiness of it.
16:44If you know you're sneaking it, that means you know how bad it is.
16:47I cannot believe that MomTalk would protect Shania, a snake, over me.
16:52Is she going tonight?
16:55I don't know.
16:56I guarantee she doesn't show up.
16:57I will fucking call you out, so just let you know.
17:00Kat, yeah, be ready for it.
17:02But I'm going to have to have a discussion with all my fucking so-called friends.
17:05Because this is what I fucking found out from him.
17:11And all my friends knew.
17:12And I don't want to fucking hear,
17:14Oh, we knew you were going to be at your way.
17:15We don't want to hurt your feelings.
17:16You guys fucking knew I would know.
17:18You knew that...
17:18You guys all knew.
17:19You're not...
17:19You've got to be smarter than that.
17:21I'm sure you guys are.
17:23I also don't think I knew Dakota the way that you do.
17:26And I genuinely thought that he would want to keep it under wraps and then to know that
17:32he didn't and he wanted to...
17:33But this is your nasty asshole friend.
17:36Yeah, and I'm not...
17:37I'm also pissed at her.
17:39Taylor and I have both worked really hard to rebuild our friendship.
17:43It would be so beyond disappointing
17:46if a man were to be the downfall of us once again.
17:53I hate her.
17:54And so right now I am very busy because I got to edit some videos
17:57because I fucking hate her.
18:20Hi.
18:22They all lining out there?
18:24Yeah, they're all ready for you.
18:25Oh, my goodness.
18:26Look at me.
18:28They're all ready to sin.
18:30Sinner Sunday is basically a page where people can anonymously confess their sins
18:35and it gets very juicy.
18:38And so this event is going to be really fun because it's my sinner community
18:41coming out to just have a fun time.
18:43It is her.
18:44I think it has to be just her.
18:45Your hair looks so good.
18:46It does look so good.
18:47Did you cut it?
18:48I did.
18:49What kind of a makeup look are you doing?
18:50I like the one from the picture I sent you.
18:52I'm so excited.
18:53That's going to look so good.
18:55I feel like a little dramatic, you know?
18:59Are you kidding?
19:01Dakota, I think, told to her.
19:03Miranda just texted and said,
19:04just got off the phone with Taylor.
19:05She hates all of us for not telling her.
19:08Are you serious?
19:11That's so unfair when we're all just trying to look out for her not being a mental patient
19:15and not being able to go to the bathroom because of it.
19:18Taylor just called me.
19:19Shit.
19:20Okay.
19:21Just call her back.
19:22Because I could see her not on the other side.
19:24I'll talk to her.
19:25Okay.
19:26Hi.
19:26Hey, how are you?
19:28Horrible.
19:29What's up?
19:30So, I just want you to know that the rest of us found out about this just recently.
19:35Yeah, I heard.
19:36I know.
19:37I just want you to know that we just weren't going to tell you quite yet just because we
19:41didn't want your mental state to be.
19:43It's fine.
19:43My mental state's fucked now.
19:44So, what does everyone want to say now?
19:45Hey, Taylor, you need to understand that we've been nothing but good friends to you and I'm
19:48trying to be there for you.
19:49So, will you please not be like that?
19:51Go for it.
19:52Okay.
19:52There is something else that God has done that you need to know about.
19:55Okay.
19:56But I feel...
19:57I mean, are you coming tonight?
19:58Just...
19:59Can you just say it?
19:59I'm tired of being torched at this point.
20:01Can you just say it?
20:02Okay.
20:04He hooked up with Jenna and, like, basically almost had sex with her, like, a couple weeks
20:08ago.
20:09Okay.
20:10So, he's a piece of shit and I hope you really see that.
20:13And I found out about this a day ago and I was after the shine stuff and I was like,
20:18yeah, I'm not hiding this from Taylor.
20:19Like, he's a piece of crap.
20:21So, you deserve to know that.
20:22That's what I'm telling you.
20:25Okay.
20:26Thank you for telling me.
20:27No, it's fine.
20:28I'm going to fucking light them all up.
20:32And it's coming for fucking Jenna, too.
20:34Jenna, she tried multiple times to get me on her podcast and, like, begging me and,
20:39like, trying to help me and then does that behind my back.
20:42Like, it's disgusting, really.
20:45The fuck is wrong with people?
20:46They also look so stupid, too.
20:48Your feelings are valid.
20:49I know.
20:50I know that they're valid and I have every right to call her out.
20:53No, Taylor.
20:54Dakota's a piece of shit for doing this.
20:55We're not talking about Dakota.
20:56We're talking about the bitch.
20:57I already posted about Shania.
20:58I just did a video with her.
20:59Little fucking little sneak.
21:00But I don't want you to compromise.
21:02I am going to call her out.
21:03I'm going to fuck about Dakota.
21:04I'm calling out the stupid dumbass bitches about her stupid...
21:08This is stemming from the pain of Dakota.
21:10You wouldn't care.
21:11I am going to fucking fuck them up.
21:12Yes, I am.
21:13I come back to this bullshit again about who the mother effing girl is.
21:18And it's disgusting because there's so much, like, history, emotion.
21:21It's just like, oh, here we go again.
21:24I just, yeah, I want to let it go because, like, I'm literally just suffering.
21:28Like, I'm suffering because I won't, like, I resist letting it go.
21:30Obviously, it controls, like, my incisions and my emotions.
21:33And I'm just, like, tired.
21:34I'm, like, physically exhausted.
21:35Take a night.
21:36I get that.
21:37But, like, don't let this ruin the bachelorette for you.
21:39That'll be the biggest regret you ever do because you know you're not going to be with
21:43me ever again.
21:43You've said that.
21:44We all want this for you, Taylor.
21:46Like, we all want you to move on and be happy.
21:48Yeah, I know.
21:48I hear you guys.
21:49We're on your side, though.
21:51Just know that.
21:57But I am sorry, and Shania sucks, and I can't believe she did this, and same with Jenna.
22:03I hope you guys have fun tonight.
22:05This has been happening for three years.
22:06Dakota definitely purposely hooks up with friends in Taylor's circle to piss her off.
22:10And, like, I feel like it's almost an isolation tactic, too.
22:13Like, sleep with all of her friends so she no longer has those friends.
22:15And then she'll come running back to him.
22:17I think it reeks of desperation, if I'm being completely honest.
22:20We'll leave you alone, but I just, I want you to know we love you, and we're here for
22:23you, and if you need anything, we're here.
22:26Okay, thank you.
22:27All right, bye.
22:29Okay, bye.
22:34I'm sorry.
22:36It's fine.
22:37I already did it.
22:39We need to look at the video she posted.
22:41Just found out the snake in the middle is sleeping with my baby daddy, meanwhile crying to me because
22:46she just got dumped by a married man.
22:48I think this doesn't look good for her to post that.
22:50That's what I'm saying.
22:51Like, what are you doing?
22:52What is she doing?
22:52And Taylor gets comments, ooh, keep being petty queen, and people vibe her up for this.
22:56And that's why she keeps doing it.
22:57And she's known for that, but it's getting to a point where it's not okay.
23:01Oh, this is a night, may I have her.
23:15I'm walking into Macy's Center Sunday party with Jace, and I feel like I'm in a pressure
23:20cooker with the separation issue because I feel like I'm also a little bit lost of what
23:25to do right now, and so I don't fully know what to communicate to the other girls in Mom
23:30Talk.
23:30So I'm just trying to put on this, we're good, we're here to support Macy.
23:36Oh, spooky.
23:38Oh, my God.
23:39Oh, this is kind of scary.
23:41So good.
23:41Thanks.
23:42Like, should we do a praying one or something that's not religious?
23:46Whoa.
23:46Damn.
23:47A little satanic.
23:48More than I expected.
23:49Nice.
23:51Nice.
23:51Nice.
23:52Nice.
23:52Nice.
23:52Oh, all right.
23:53Shafted.
23:53Oh, my goodness.
23:54You went straight from Mikayla.
23:55How is everyone?
23:57Not great.
23:57I feel like great.
23:58Taylor, she's good.
23:59Oh, yeah.
24:00She's a mess right now.
24:01She's already so mad.
24:02Why is she mad?
24:02I'm so mad.
24:03We were doing it for you so that you wouldn't ruin this experience that you're leaving for
24:08in four days.
24:09She's like, I'm going to call everyone out.
24:10I'm going to ruin their lives.
24:11I think Taylor is valid in her feelings.
24:14However, it doesn't feel good as a friend that I continue to have your back time and time
24:18again, but the second I do you wrong in your eyes, I'm a shit friend and you don't
24:24want to be around me and it's just, it's really, it's really hurtful.
24:33Hello.
24:35How is everyone?
24:37Thriving?
24:38I'm just frustrated.
24:39I'm over this whole situation.
24:41I am too.
24:41How do you feel about that?
24:42You feel the heart.
24:43I'm pissed.
24:44Yeah, I'm pissed.
24:45Okay, so what do we do?
24:46After I found out about Shania and Dakota, I did not withhold that information with malicious
24:52intent, but once Taylor sees red, it's hard to reason with her.
24:57Oh, you guys, it's drained.
25:01Uh-oh, Taylor posted a story.
25:02No, she didn't.
25:04Anyone praying for my downfall, please just say the fuck away from me and anyone associated
25:07with these people moving forward also stay the F away from me.
25:10Want to be friends with desperate snakes?
25:13Is this about you?
25:15Also, why is she saying praying for my downfall?
25:17No one's praying for your downfall.
25:19Like, no one's, like, trained up my things.
25:20And again, by your own logic, we're all going through shit.
25:23We've all fucked up.
25:24And how many times have we been put in this situation with information that's gonna hurt
25:27Taylor and we have to tiptoe around her and babysit her emotions?
25:30It's hard.
25:31I understand her being upset, but the thing is, what are you supposed to do when you're
25:35put in a situation like this?
25:36And Shania's been your best friend for how many years?
25:38It's-it's wrong.
25:39It is wrong.
25:40It is wrong.
25:40It is wrong.
25:48Who's all the guys that Shania's walked in?
25:50Who?
25:50Shania did?
25:51Oh my god, she has a lot of balls.
25:52She does.
25:53I'm like scared.
25:54So she doesn't know Taylor's not coming?
25:56Probably so.
25:57So what do we do now?
25:58Like, let Shania sit down.
26:00Yeah, we need to talk to you.
26:01Oh!
26:02Wait, who's calling you?
26:03Oh, Taylor.
26:04Speak of the devil.
26:05Hello?
26:06Hi.
26:07Hi.
26:08How are you doing?
26:09Hi.
26:10We're here with Laila, Miranda, and Jesse.
26:22I don't know.
26:23Shania just walked up here.
26:24So I'm like, we'll call you after.
26:26Yeah, we'll call you after.
26:26I'll call you after.
26:27And I'll get you an update.
26:29Okay, bye.
26:33You guys pull up the chair.
26:38Hi.
26:39Hi.
26:39Hi, Mom.
26:40Oh, Macy.
26:41Mind if I squeeze in here?
26:42Hi.
26:42Hi.
26:43I want to understand Shania because I really don't know what her intentions are, but I
26:48also don't understand why she's going for Dakota.
26:50Like, what's wrong?
26:51Like, seriously.
26:52Like, Salt Lake isn't that small.
26:53Like, can we not find someone else?
26:55Is it not gross to you that he's, like, slept with other girls in between all this?
26:59Well, he also makes it sound like he hasn't.
27:00That's what I'm saying.
27:01Like, he's lying to me.
27:02He's like, let's have a sex pact, but I'm going to go fuck the next day.
27:05Like, we've already been seeing each other for, what, like, a week and a half?
27:08Yeah.
27:08And he's, and he's literally lied to you at least, at least, like, 10 times in that span.
27:15No, I think that's, like, ridiculous.
27:17I don't know why he's trying to do that.
27:18I'm like, that's extra.
27:19But this is Dakota.
27:20Like, we've seen him, George Taylor, for years.
27:22I just want you to know that, like, you're not an exception.
27:24I think he's going to do it.
27:26He did it already.
27:27Do you see a potential future of him?
27:31To a point, like, with him, yes.
27:33With Dakota.
27:35This is the first time I'm hearing this.
27:37Okay, him as a person?
27:39Yes.
27:41So I guess my question is, if you were going to talk to Taylor tonight, but you still plan
27:45on seeing him, like, what was that conversation going to go like?
27:48I never meant it to her, Taylor.
27:50Like, I saw her with Ben, and I saw her, and she's going on The Bachelor.
27:53I knew all the things, but I'm just like, I don't, I don't know.
27:59I didn't think it would be like this.
28:02Taylor just texted me.
28:04Taylor just texted me.
28:04Taylor just texted me.
28:06Did you hear?
28:07Oh, okay.
28:09Sorry, we'll be right back.
28:11Taylor's blowing up my phone right now, and I can't answer because Shania's right across
28:14the table, so we have to go outside so that we can see what's going on.
28:18Hey, mom, talk.
28:21Yeah.
28:22Oh, hi, okay, we're outside.
28:24I think she thought you were coming
28:26because she was going to tell you about all of this.
28:28In what world is there to say anything at this point?
28:31Like, I guess I don't know the agenda there.
28:33You should come and find out.
28:35There's nothing that she could possibly fucking say,
28:36and I want to know if Miranda's going to be friends with this bitch,
28:38so, because she just posted a video of her three days ago.
28:41And you're telling me, Miranda, if you can hear me,
28:43you've known for a fucking week.
28:45And you just post, what?
28:46So, yeah, I can hear you loud and clear.
28:48Okay, good, loud and clear.
28:49So you posted with her, oh, just three days ago
28:52when you knew this about her,
28:53and you're, like, saying,
28:53sorry, you got caught in a fucking video, it's disgusting.
28:55By the way, I didn't know.
28:57I didn't know.
28:57I found the rest of it out when everyone else did.
29:00The rest of what?
29:01The rest of what?
29:01I knew about the first night they hung out.
29:03That's all I knew about it.
29:04I don't...
29:04You knew that they fucked.
29:05Don't lie.
29:06Don't lie.
29:06That's what I'm saying.
29:07I just knew about that night.
29:08I didn't know that they kept seeing each other.
29:10I don't care about how many times and what nights you knew.
29:13Taylor, I think at the end of the day,
29:14like, it doesn't change...
29:16It doesn't matter the time frame that everyone knew.
29:18Her intention of not telling you was not malicious.
29:20It was to protect you.
29:22It absolutely does as a friend.
29:23Absolutely.
29:24I'm like, oh, you chose Shania's little sneaky snake ass over mine.
29:27Do I agree with that?
29:28No, because I think Shania's true colors will come out,
29:31as they always do, and let's see.
29:33This is a hard situation for Miranda,
29:35and she's trying to navigate it.
29:36I don't care what's fucking fair.
29:38I can't.
29:39I peer-to-peer.
29:39That's where I'm putting my poop.
29:40People can make a mistake.
29:42Taylor, you've played plenty of mistakes before in your life.
29:44No matter what, Taylor, this would have hurt you
29:46no matter when you found out.
29:48If anyone's defending her, there's no friend of mine.
29:50Like, ever again.
29:51Ever.
29:54It's painful.
29:54It's shitty.
29:55It sucks.
29:56It's fucked.
29:56It's disgusting.
29:57Truly.
29:58Call you after.
29:59Do you feel like you have to, like, choose now?
30:02Yeah.
30:02One, it's triggering.
30:03I'm sure it's triggering for you in that friendship.
30:06Yeah, it is.
30:06I get she's heated, but also, like...
30:08Well, you see, Shania's been a better friend to me
30:10than Taylor ever has.
30:11Yeah, and that's why it's hard.
30:13Taylor giving me an ultimatum on choosing her or Shania
30:16is frustrating because I'm not your partner
30:20and I'm not your child.
30:22I'm your friend, and I'm pretty sure that Taylor
30:24is not going to like my decision
30:26from where I'm standing right now.
30:27Maybe just use this as an opportunity to give her space.
30:31I think you guys have been through a lot worse.
30:32This has come back for me.
30:33You're a good friend.
30:44We'll have to pack up because Macy's going to be her.
30:46Whoa.
30:48Say hi, Daddy.
30:50Hi, sweetie.
30:52You are so pretty.
30:54I don't even know what I'll need, honestly.
30:58So how are you feeling about everything?
30:59Um, so Jace and I stayed up late last night
31:03talking out the pros and the cons of separating
31:06between all of the mom talk drama
31:09and the pressure that I feel
31:10to get my marriage in a good place.
31:12I'm definitely reaching a breaking point.
31:15I'm feeling very maxed out today
31:19just because my freaking nerves are hurting so bad.
31:24We both agreed to do a separation.
31:30What are you looking to get out of this?
31:34Uh, I think just working on my stuff separately.
31:39At home, you feel like you can't focus on your,
31:43on your skin and your health
31:45because I'm also here.
31:46Well, I think it's hard with the,
31:49like, anytime you bring up the stuff
31:51with, like, the sex and intimacy,
31:53I feel like it's hard on me
31:55because I feel like, again,
31:56my nervous system's already in fight or flight
31:57and I'm already maxed out.
31:59Like, my bucket is full.
32:00I know, but for me,
32:02it seems like the solution to that
32:03would be to commit to trauma therapy
32:07until you're at the point
32:07where it doesn't make your nervous system freak out.
32:11I know.
32:11I feel like I've done a lot of therapy work already
32:13and my stuff is still bad.
32:16And again, I don't think it's, like,
32:17with the intention of being separated forever.
32:20And I think we're obviously
32:21still going to see each other,
32:22like, every single day.
32:23I'm not trying to go
32:25even a day away from the kids anyways.
32:27Should we get her a bottle?
32:31Move those fingers.
32:32For something like this to feel effective for me,
32:36maybe we don't get back together
32:39until you feel like you can commit
32:42to our relationship.
32:44Oh.
32:47I don't know.
32:48Just the pressure of, like,
32:50when it's going to be fixed.
32:53I think that's what's hard.
32:54I think it's definitely hard
32:55to put a timeline on the situation
32:57because it could take weeks.
32:59It could take months to be healed.
33:01There's part of me that is definitely scared
33:04to lose him
33:05because I feel like our marriage is so good
33:07outside of the sexual intimacy part of it,
33:10which it's ironic
33:12because that's his number one need
33:13and that's my number one wound.
33:16I think it would be better, you know,
33:19for our kids, though,
33:22for us to work it out.
33:23I definitely want my kids to see
33:26their parents with having
33:28a good intimate connection.
33:31Yeah, emotional connection.
33:33Yeah, both.
33:35Yeah.
33:38Yeah.
33:55It does make me very sad to know
33:58that Jason and Michaela
33:58are separating for a little bit,
34:00and I'm going to try my best
34:01to be there for her
34:01in any capacity that she needs me.
34:06I'll give you a moment.
34:08I love you.
34:09I love you.
34:10I'm talking to you, okay?
34:11Mm-hmm.
34:14I'm shaking.
34:16You're a little pokey on my neck.
34:17Oh, sorry.
34:18I'm shaking.
34:20I'll take good care of her.
34:22Don't worry.
34:23If you want to talk, too,
34:24I'm all ears, too,
34:25and Jacob is, as well.
34:32Okay.
34:33I think as sad as it is,
34:35I do take comfort
34:36in knowing that I do have
34:37such a great support system
34:39in MomTalk.
34:39I don't want to have
34:41to tear our family apart,
34:42but I also know
34:43that I have to be selfish
34:44for a period of time
34:45so that I can heal.
34:59Today is the main title shoot,
35:01and this is the first time
35:02MomTalk is back together again
35:03since the situation with Taylor,
35:04and since Whitney and Jenny
35:06didn't show up to my book event,
35:07things do feel a little bit awkward
35:09and contentious in the room,
35:11so we'll see how this goes.
35:13Hello.
35:14Good morning.
35:15Good morning.
35:16How are we?
35:18Thriving.
35:19Thriving.
35:19You know, I'm definitely
35:20allergic to horses.
35:21Why are we doing it on a horse farm?
35:23How are you?
35:24Good.
35:25It's your hair.
35:26What?
35:26It's more red.
35:27No, she's got extensions.
35:28I got it.
35:29No, but the color's more red.
35:30I got it done.
35:31I got it done yesterday.
35:32It looks so good.
35:33Thank you.
35:33I don't think it's fully hitting me,
35:36the gravity of the situation
35:37of being separated,
35:38but I don't like to sit
35:39in the sadness
35:40and just feel it,
35:40so it's nice to have a distraction
35:42to go do the main title shoot.
35:43Where's Jessie?
35:44She's doing her individual shot
35:47in the cocoon.
35:48In the cocoon?
35:49Yeah.
35:50We're like butterflies.
35:51And you have to get out.
35:51I heard it's actually us
35:52coming out of the womb.
35:54Shut the fuck up.
35:54I love you.
35:57Did Taylor talk to you at all
35:59after the event
35:59or did you reach out?
36:00I texted her
36:01and I basically was just like saying
36:02like I understand
36:03that like your feelings
36:04are like heightened
36:05and like the way
36:06that your feeling's valid,
36:07but go easy on Miranda.
36:09This is like a really hard place
36:10for her to be in right now.
36:11Like you are two of her good friends
36:13and she's having to like
36:14basically like pick between you guys,
36:15which is hard.
36:16That's what's so crazy
36:17is that like I genuinely don't know
36:19how I ended up here again
36:20because I'm like part of the reason
36:22the whole situation
36:23is triggering for me as a whole
36:24is because I feel like
36:26I'm in the exact same position
36:27that I was in in 2022
36:29where I'm finding out
36:30about Taylor's affair
36:32and now I have to then decide
36:35how I'm going to go about
36:37handling that information
36:38and it's just like
36:39the exact same situation
36:40only Taylor's on the other end
36:42of it this time.
36:42During the swinging scandal,
36:44I was the middleman
36:46and felt expected
36:48to keep Taylor's affair
36:51a secret from the other wife
36:53and now I am the middleman
36:55between Shania and Taylor.
36:58There is a little bit
36:59of a double standard there
37:00and all in all,
37:01it feels like I'm doing
37:02a lot of giving
37:03and not a whole lot
37:04of receiving here.
37:05Oh, there she is.
37:06Speak of the devil.
37:09Morning.
37:09Hi, guys.
37:10Is that the devil?
37:11Holy shit, you're fully ready.
37:13We need to be here at eight.
37:14Eight?
37:15Wait, why?
37:16Because we're not Taylor.
37:16We don't get the latest
37:17call time on the cast.
37:19Oh, damn.
37:19There's perks to being the favorite.
37:21You're going to crash out
37:22this morning?
37:22I mean, I crash outs
37:23almost every day,
37:24but I think I'm just overwhelmed.
37:25Well, yeah,
37:26I was just saying that about you.
37:27I was like,
37:27you're just at your tipping point.
37:29Yeah.
37:29What are you overwhelmed
37:31with just leaving?
37:32Seeing everything going on?
37:33Yeah, everything.
37:34What was yesterday
37:35that I was...
37:37Everything was a blur.
37:38Uh, I feel kind of like,
37:42like, just a little awkward.
37:45I was in that moment,
37:46like, so angry,
37:47but I think my anger
37:49towards Dakota and myself
37:50definitely gets redirected
37:51to other people.
37:52That is for sure.
37:53I can admit that.
37:55Hi.
37:55Hi.
37:56Are we good?
37:56Do we love each other still?
37:57We do.
37:58I've never stopped loving you.
37:59Okay.
37:59I still stand by what I said,
38:01that, like,
38:01I think the name calling
38:02can be, like, hard, you know?
38:04It can be, but I don't know.
38:04But I understand
38:05that your emotions
38:05were high.
38:06I would still say it today.
38:08And that we handle things
38:08very differently.
38:10I think she's a gross,
38:11disgusting bitch.
38:12Why?
38:12Because to me,
38:13it doesn't seem like
38:14you were close.
38:15So I'm like,
38:16why was she so hurt by it?
38:17Because if you're trying
38:17to be friends with me
38:18and get close to me,
38:19instead you go
38:20and fuck my baby daddy?
38:21You don't think
38:21there's something wrong with that?
38:26That's odd.
38:27She knows the pain
38:28I've gone through
38:28because we've confided
38:29in each other
38:29about breakups and things.
38:31I think it's sneaky.
38:32Okay.
38:33I'm very confused
38:34why Taylor is so amped up.
38:37I'm really trying
38:37to understand
38:38why she's reacting this way.
38:40I've learned
38:41filming two reality shows
38:43at the same time
38:44can be very overwhelming.
38:45And it's very important
38:46to have that mental clarity.
38:48So I'm starting to feel
38:49a little bit worried for her
38:50because she's literally
38:52about to leave
38:53to go be the Bachelorette.
38:54Can I get you dressed
38:56for that?
38:57Yes, yes.
38:58Wait, last night, what?
38:59Dakota was saying
39:00he felt bad, actually?
39:01Yeah.
39:02He's like, this was so wrong.
39:04And to be honest,
39:05like, everything hit me.
39:05Like, I lost you.
39:06I lost my child.
39:07And he's like,
39:07I'm just, like, so sad.
39:10But if you want to be with him,
39:11then go be with him.
39:12But you don't.
39:14I think everything Dakota does
39:16is a complete red flag.
39:17I feel like he's
39:18a walking red flag.
39:19So it does not shock me
39:20that he decided
39:20to love bomb her
39:21right before the Bachelorette.
39:22But I feel like
39:23he's definitely hurt
39:24at the concept of her
39:24coming back
39:25and being in love
39:26and engaged
39:26and moved on from him.
39:28So I feel like
39:29he's doing anything possible
39:30to ruin this experience
39:31for her.
39:32And I hope that she
39:32can see through that.
39:34We just don't want to see
39:34you allowing yourself
39:35to get hurt again.
39:35Well, no, he said that.
39:36He was like,
39:37it sucks because he's like,
39:38I know you love me
39:38and, like, you can't be with me.
39:40Exactly.
39:41I don't want to talk about it
39:41because I can't.
39:41I don't want to get it.
39:43If you're going to go
39:43do the Bachelorette,
39:44like, you have to be in it.
39:46Well, I do think
39:46that's my only way out of this.
39:47I do agree with that.
39:48I worry if you don't find someone
39:51that you're going to come back
39:52and be stuck in it again.
39:53Like, he just said,
39:54like, yeah,
39:55he was just like,
39:56I feel like you just
39:57need to marry me.
39:58That's what he said.
39:59Oh, perfect.
39:59I mean, Dakota was
40:01definitely apologizing
40:02for what he did with Shania
40:03and do I believe him?
40:04No.
40:05He knew how this would affect me
40:06and he was like,
40:07well, maybe if I make her,
40:08like, crash out hard enough,
40:09she won't go
40:10to the Bachelorette.
40:11And I think that's deliberately
40:12Jenna and Shania.
40:13Hmm.
40:14If it takes everything
40:15in me to get up and go,
40:16I'm going to do that.
40:18There's tons
40:19you can bleed with your heel.
40:20Yep.
40:21Heel.
40:22Heel.
40:23Like, I just,
40:24I love how it's so,
40:25you get to glide.
40:26Glide.
40:27Okay.
40:27This is my new favorite dance.
40:28Yeah.
40:29I have really exciting news.
40:30Why?
40:31It's not official yet.
40:33Okay.
40:33But Chicago reached out to our team.
40:35I did hear.
40:36I did hear.
40:37From Zach.
40:38Zach's one other.
40:39Can I take you, girl?
40:40Sorry.
40:41Yes.
40:41We're ready for you.
40:42Okay, okay, okay.
40:42Oh.
40:43I don't know.
40:44Ready for your...
40:45That is incredible.
40:46Yeah.
40:46Why didn't you tell me
40:47that you knew?
40:49I feel like there's just
40:50so much happening.
40:51It's hard to keep up.
40:52I see Jen almost
40:53every single day.
40:55I text her.
40:56We talk a lot.
40:58And she hasn't said
40:59anything once.
41:01Everybody's telling me
41:03I gotta act right.
41:04Sit right.
41:05Talk right.
41:06To me,
41:07that's very weird.
41:08And I find that
41:09very off-putting.
41:10The only thing
41:11that I can think of
41:12is things that I have felt
41:13from way long ago
41:15is it just makes me
41:16feel like
41:16you just don't care.
41:22That was brutal.
41:29Thank you, Macy.
41:30What is the state
41:31of mom talk right now?
41:32Who's in?
41:33Who's out?
41:35Demi,
41:35have you officially
41:36left mom talk?
41:40I feel like everyone's
41:42kind of just like
41:42doing their own thing,
41:43like spreading their own wings.
41:44Like butterflies?
41:46What do you mean?
41:47Well, besides Jesse
41:48being in the other room,
41:49this is the first time
41:50that mom talk
41:51has been together
41:52for a minute.
41:53We survived.
41:53I'm not just saying that.
41:54I genuinely
41:55have missed being
41:56with you guys.
41:57Do you hang out
41:58with anyone in California?
42:00No.
42:00What about you and Whitney?
42:02Yeah, what the fuck?
42:03We never talk.
42:05We literally never talk.
42:08To be honest,
42:09I have been hesitant
42:10to get close to her
42:12because I do think
42:13her being nice to me too
42:14on Dancing with the Stars
42:16is transactional.
42:18I do think
42:19at the end of the day,
42:20Whitney only cares
42:21about Whitney
42:21and you can't tell me otherwise.
42:26I'm just kind of
42:27like at my wit's end.
42:28Yeah, I mean,
42:29that's what I thought,
42:30but then I heard that
42:31and I was like,
42:31oh, great.
42:33Jordan's still really upset
42:34about the name change
42:35even though I know
42:36it's what's right for me.
42:37So even though
42:38I haven't made a decision
42:38about Jordan and I,
42:40I met with my dad
42:40to go over this prenup,
42:42but it's been over five years
42:43and I do not remember
42:44what's in it.
42:45Oh, yeah,
42:46this is really long.
42:48I definitely feel like
42:49I need to have
42:49like a divorce lawyer
42:50look at it.
42:51I keep saying like,
42:52Jordan's a hard person
42:53to be married to,
42:53but I think he'd be
42:54a harder person to divorce.
42:56Yeah.
42:56After looking at my prenup a bit,
42:58we discovered that
42:59me and Jordan
43:00did not have witnesses sign it.
43:01So that could mean
43:02that the prenup is voided.
43:04Yeah.
43:06Yeah, sorry.
43:07Yeah, it's fine.
43:09No, I'm okay.
43:10Okay.
43:10I'll come out.
43:11Okay.
43:11Thank you.
43:13This information
43:14has really rattled me
43:15because I just don't know
43:16what that could mean
43:17for me, my business
43:18and the security
43:18of my family.
43:20Before we go,
43:20I just need,
43:21I need to say
43:22an announcement.
43:23I wanted to apologize
43:26for being mean
43:27to everybody.
43:28I just feel bad
43:29and I think
43:31I'm also about
43:31to start my periods.
43:32I'm a little wacky.
43:33I hope you are.
43:34But I'm sorry
43:35for being mean
43:36to all of you.
43:37I've been snappy.
43:38I know.
43:38Yeah, you have.
43:39I agree.
43:40But you know
43:41that we're all coming
43:41from a place of love.
43:42I don't want you
43:42to ever feel attacked.
43:44Like, yes,
43:44we judge a lot
43:45of the things you do,
43:46but it's from a place of love.
43:47So we hate to see you hurting
43:48and it's been like this
43:49for a long time.
43:50I think, too,
43:50just being like,
43:51if you don't want to hear it,
43:52that's fine.
43:53That's fair.
43:53Just being like,
43:54I hear you.
43:55Like,
43:57I don't want to be receptive
43:58right now.
43:58I mean,
43:59I just have nothing
44:00else to say anymore.
44:02Yeah.
44:02And I think neither do we
44:03like about it.
44:04Amen.
44:05Because you know
44:05where we all stand.
44:06Great.
44:09I do feel like
44:10Taylor's apology
44:11is genuine,
44:12but I think at this point
44:14I'm feeling a little bit weary
44:15and we'll be proceeding
44:17with caution
44:18moving forward.
44:19Jessie,
44:20are you okay?
44:22Okay.
44:23Sorry.
44:26I went over my prenup
44:27with my dad
44:28and I found out
44:28it wasn't finished.
44:30And so...
44:31Fuck.
44:32Wait, what?
44:33What do you mean?
44:34So me and Jordan signed up
44:35and we didn't have
44:36witness signatures
44:36so it could be all voided.
44:38And I've just been
44:39struggling with that
44:40because I just,
44:41I don't know
44:41what my decision is,
44:42but I feel like
44:43if I make that decision
44:44of putting my business
44:44and my family
44:45in like a terrible situation,
44:50I just don't know
44:50what will happen.
44:51I'll probably lose millions.
44:52Yeah, I'm kind of confused.
44:53What does that mean?
44:53That means that you can
44:54take half of her business
44:55and half of everything
44:56that she has.
44:57Can't they like do that now?
44:58Can't you do it now?
44:59No, like it's a prenup.
45:00Like he's entitled
45:01to anything in the last
45:02five years that I've created
45:03and when we got married
45:04I was worth
45:04a lot less than I am now.
45:07So it just sucks
45:08and I'm just like
45:09I don't want to do that
45:10to my family
45:10and my dad's like
45:11my business partner
45:12and I mean I've told you
45:13how much I'm worried like...
45:14Oh my God, please.
45:15Do you think he would do that?
45:17I don't know.
45:17He's entitled to it
45:18and so like...
45:19He would.
45:19I could see him doing it
45:21to just...
45:21And I would owe him
45:21child support
45:22or to keep him...
45:23And I would owe him alimony.
45:24I'm just like terrified
45:25that I'm putting my family
45:26in a bad situation
45:27and I'm like I'll just stay.
45:29Can't stay because of this though, Jess.
45:30You're going to build
45:31that money back
45:31right away.
45:33You're so successful.
45:34There's a reason why
45:34you have a multi-million dollar business.
45:36You're not dumb
45:36when it comes to those things.
45:37You're going to build it back.
45:38I think you'll find a way around it.
45:39You can't stay in a marriage
45:40that you're miserable in for money.
45:42Like your happiness
45:42means way more.
45:44Jordan has made a lot of changes
45:45but if I'm basing it off
45:47of the Jordan
45:47that I was married to
45:48for four years
45:49that Jordan would be
45:50a very hard person to divorce.
45:52I think he would be spiteful
45:53and vindictive
45:53and I think he would play
45:55a little bit dirty.
45:56So I just kind of have
45:57to prepare myself
45:58that if we do get divorced
45:59it could go that way.
46:16Are you feeling better?
46:18Switch you.
46:19Me?
46:19Yeah.
46:21I'm feeling okay.
46:22I'm going to be honest
46:23I was a little mad
46:24that when you told me
46:27that you knew about Chicago
46:28but didn't say anything to me.
46:30I can totally see
46:32why that would frustrate you.
46:33Like when did Zach
46:34tell you about it?
46:36Um
46:39Sometime last week.
46:40I see you almost
46:40every single day
46:41in the studio
46:42and it wasn't like
46:43I gave him to O'Connor
46:44I was like
46:45I had no idea
46:46that she knew.
46:47Not one thing
46:48in the studio
46:48not a text
46:49not anything.
46:50Okay well
46:50I was also very sick
46:53and
46:54I'm sorry
46:55not at every given point
46:57I'm thinking about
46:57That's how it always is Jen.
46:59You always have
47:00all these expectations
47:00for everyone else
47:01to be
47:02to be supportive to you
47:03and that expectation
47:04is never received
47:05ever.
47:06Okay well maybe
47:06I don't think
47:07we're actual
47:08genuine friends.
47:11Okay.
47:12I mean
47:13if you truly
47:15were my friend
47:15you wouldn't have
47:17then became friends
47:18with the one person
47:19that was bullying me
47:20during the hardest
47:21stage of my life.
47:23So
47:24Okay let's not deflect
47:25let's talk about
47:25the one thing at hand
47:27I'm not deflecting
47:28You knew about Chicago
47:29and you never said
47:30one thing
47:31to me ever.
47:32You asked me
47:33why.
47:34I don't really
47:35trust Whitney
47:35she is best friends
47:37with the me.
47:38You guys kiss
47:39like what if she's
47:40holding the
47:41So how could I be
47:43genuine friends
47:44with her?
47:45I even texted you
47:46after I found out
47:46you were sick
47:47because I wanted
47:47to make sure you were okay.
47:48No response.
47:49Nothing.
47:50Zero.
47:50Maybe it's because
47:52I don't think
47:52we have a genuine friendship.
47:56I don't think
47:57you actually care about me.
47:59I actually don't think
48:00you care about
48:01anyone else in this group.
48:02What is going on?
48:03You were nice to me
48:04during season two
48:05because it benefited you
48:07and the minute I left
48:08you went and became
48:09friends with the one person
48:11who was calling me.
48:11No one wanted you around.
48:13I was the one
48:14that vouched for you
48:15every fucking time.
48:16You didn't vouch for me.
48:17Yes I did.
48:18Every time.
48:19When everyone was
48:20talking shit about you
48:21in Arizona
48:22who stood up for you?
48:24Me.
48:24I did.
48:25Question of the day
48:26where is Jen?
48:27She is pregnant.
48:29A band-aid baby.
48:30Yay.
48:31What?
48:32The babies don't
48:33band-aid anything.
48:34I am so shocked.
48:35Right now there needs
48:36to be more understanding.
48:38For the love of God.
48:40If you were my friend
48:40you wouldn't have
48:41come back to mom talk
48:42just to take
48:44Dancing with the Stars
48:45with you knew
48:45with a dream of mine.
48:47First of all Jen
48:48why didn't I reach out?
48:49You don't own that dream.
48:50You don't own it.
48:51I'm not saying
48:51anyone can have that dream.
48:53I'm not saying
48:53anyone in this cast
48:55can go on
48:55Dancing with the Stars.
48:57I'm just saying
48:58it's how you did it
49:00that matters.
49:01Because no one
49:02wanted me around.
49:03And then I came back
49:04and I built
49:05relationships again.
49:06Well yeah.
49:07I built a relationship
49:08again with Mikayla
49:09with every fucking
49:10person in this group.
49:12Okay.
49:12Stop deflecting.
49:13I support you.
49:14I'm so sick
49:15of you having
49:15this expectation
49:16of every single person
49:17in this group.
49:18I haven't had any
49:18expectations.
49:19Yes you do.
49:20Do you guys feel like
49:20I've had an expectation?
49:22Jen.
49:23I will say that
49:24I feel like
49:25if we weren't to show
49:25complete support
49:26for you right now
49:26with Dancing with the Stars
49:27I feel like we would
49:28hear it later.
49:29You know?
49:30No.
49:30Not at all.
49:31It definitely feels like
49:32there's a major disconnect
49:33with Whitney and Jen
49:34from mom talk
49:35as a whole.
49:36Sometimes they kind of
49:37lose sight that
49:37they wouldn't get
49:38these opportunities
49:38if it wasn't
49:39for mom talk
49:40in general.
49:41Remembering to connect
49:41with the people
49:42that brought you
49:43to where you are
49:44is in my opinion
49:45very important.
49:46Like from what I remember
49:48it very much felt like
49:49Whitney was there
49:50for you at that time.
49:51If you were truly
49:52there for me
49:53then why become
49:54friends with the one
49:55person who put me
49:56Shut the fuck up.
49:57I can separate the two.
49:58I can be friends
49:59with someone
49:59and be friends
50:00with someone else.
50:01I can do that.
50:02I can do that.
50:03And we had a talk
50:04at my house
50:06when I invited
50:06your family
50:07to stay with me.
50:08We had that chat.
50:09I said
50:10does that make you
50:11uncomfortable
50:11and you said
50:13no.
50:14I didn't want there
50:15to be any underlying
50:16contention or hard
50:17feelings just because
50:18you guys know
50:19that we get along
50:20with Demi and Brett.
50:21Yeah.
50:22It's honestly
50:22I would rather
50:23not even talk about it.
50:24I'm over it.
50:25I'm just telling you
50:26my honest feelings.
50:27It's not your honest
50:27feelings Jen.
50:28You're being manipulative.
50:29I'm not being manipulative.
50:30Yes you are.
50:31I'm just telling you
50:31genuinely how I feel.
50:33We started the conversation
50:34with me
50:34sharing how I felt
50:36how you knew
50:37about Chicago
50:37for a week.
50:38Yeah I do
50:38because I'm so fucking pissed.
50:40I'm over it.
50:41Do you see the way
50:42that you're screaming?
50:43Yes I do.
50:43Everyone can see.
50:44How are we supposed
50:45to have a healthy conversation?
50:47This isn't a healthy conversation.
50:48Exactly.
50:49I'm letting it out
50:49because I've held it in
50:50for so fucking long.
50:52I have been there for you.
50:53You had not been there for me.
50:55No you didn't.
50:55I texted you.
50:56I said how are you doing?
50:57You ghost me.
50:57How are you doing?
50:58You ghost me.
50:59You sent me one text.
51:01It's almost like deja vu
51:02that I'm sitting here
51:03watching this happen.
51:04Everything that Whitney
51:05is saying to Jen
51:06was the issues
51:07that I was having
51:08with Whitney
51:08so I'm like
51:09whose side am I on here?
51:11The Chicago thing
51:12was the tipping point Jen.
51:13Okay.
51:14I see you every day
51:15and not once
51:16could you have said
51:17hey congrats.
51:19That's so exciting for you
51:20because we're not friends.
51:23What the fuck is going on?
51:25I definitely feel like
51:26sometimes there's a battle
51:28between friendship
51:29and fame
51:29within this group
51:30and with Taylor
51:32and her toxic relationship
51:33with Dakota
51:34sometimes I worry
51:36about MomTalk's future.
51:38What the fuck?
51:38You just said that to me
51:39that you don't feel
51:40like we're friends.
51:41Okay then fuck you.
51:43Holy shit.
51:55What the fuck is going on?
51:57Fuck you.
51:58Whitney only cares about Whitney
51:59and she knows that I hold power.
52:01Someone needs to hold her accountable.
52:02This isn't easy for anyone Zach.
52:04No.
52:05All of us are mentally unwell.
52:07I can tell.
52:10I'm so exhausted all the time
52:12because I know that it's going too far
52:14and I can't stop.
52:15This is Taylor's last night
52:16before she flies out
52:17for the Bachelorette.
52:18I would love to be with Taylor.
52:19But is that your plan?
52:20To wait for her?
52:21She filled my head
52:22with all this hope now
52:22and I don't know what to think.
52:24Do I choose me
52:24and what makes me happy?
52:26There's a lot of pain.
52:27I think there's a lot of things
52:28we've done to hurt each other.
52:29It doesn't have to be this way.
52:31Her plane leaves in an hour.
52:33Maybe there's a chance
52:34that she just ends up
52:35choosing me at the end.
52:36Can you just admit
52:37that you still love me?
52:42Wait, where's Taylor?
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