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00:16The book Yoni Shakti I wrote between 2010 and 2012 and Yoni Shakti is a woman's guide
00:26to power and freedom through yoga and tantra it's about bringing people back into a respectful
00:34reconnection with the rhythms of earth and their vitality of life I was interested to see who else
00:43is connecting to these practices and that is how I found out about the school in Denmark and I was
00:51like that is interesting so I put a two-line reference almost like a footnote and I didn't
00:59think any more about it until 2020 when I was contacted by a reader and she expressed horror
01:08because she had been studying at that school and knew about the terrible things that had happened
01:15and then from that I connected with other people who'd had similar experiences so they all were
01:21saying the same kind of thing so I found their website and this little Danish yoga studio was
01:31actually part of this Atman International Federation there are members across the world and when you
01:40look on each one each one has got a different name in Romania it's called Lisa in Sweden it's also
01:48called
01:48Nata yoga so when you get to England Tara so you wouldn't know that's anything to do with it and
01:56at
01:56this point I was like oh my god it's everywhere it was my life okay this is 10 years ago
02:07for me but
02:08there are still women going through this now they claim that it was consensual and frame me as a liar
02:18I wanted to move to kind of leave from this position I was and he grabbed both my wrists and
02:23put them
02:24on the bed like be quiet this felt like I've got to get out of here I couldn't take any
02:29more at that
02:29point he is portrayed as sexually obsessed this is what we see from the files the testimony of Ashley
02:40he's the missing piece that I needed just watch them squirt it started and ended with him
03:14July 2019 when I left Paris I guess I knew that there was sexual abuse happening but I didn't at
03:23that point piece together trafficking but I was just on this kind of constant reading rampage becoming
03:31really kind of obsessed with understanding it more and more the school was still operating everything
03:38was fine and I just knew that every single day more and more women were going through those same
03:43experiences and being sent to Paris so I actually got in contact with me and basically revealed why
03:52she had left the school I was just up the fuck is going on so I confronted the main coordinators
04:02from
04:02Sweden and they're just like it's all lies I think he sort of thought he could make some change from
04:10within and that perhaps people would understand and they could break free from Bivalaru and continue all
04:15the good parts of the school and he wasn't able to recognize that Bivalaru was the school the response
04:22was our belief is so strong that we will do whatever it takes and we will support him no matter
04:28what and in
04:29that moment I just felt like this this shudder and this coldness come over me just thinking like
04:34that's the sort of indoctrination that leads people to drink kool-aid that's the Jonestown's sort of
04:40ideology of you're so aligned with this individual that you would do whatever it takes at whatever cost to
04:49protect him and I just got so scared I thought holy shit these they're gone so it was around May
05:012020 that I first spoke out hi everyone I'm Ashley and I run the cult awareness page this is the
05:07first
05:08story there was a lot of fear of being judged or misunderstood at the time there was so much fear
05:13in me and I was still trying to understand what had happened and I still wasn't sure where I sat
05:17and
05:17how I felt about it and I was kind of oscillating between being really certain that something was
05:22wrong and that I'd left a cult and then also at other times wondering if I was wrong to leave
05:28and
05:29that perhaps I'd fallen off a spiritual path but I just kind of had this need that I needed I
05:34just
05:34needed to say something ask the teachers actually ask them are you sending women to be initiated by
05:40the Guru is that happening just watch them squirm I thought that I would feel really silly if I just
05:46went to my local police station and said hey I had this experience in France can you help me I
05:52just
05:52felt really silly I didn't know where to go so when I first heard about the experience of the people
06:05in
06:05the first school in Scandinavia they put me in touch with Ashley Ashley Freckleton and what she sent me I've
06:13never forgotten it I actually got it received it here I remember it coming through on the email and it
06:17was her testimony the photo was taken the night before I was trafficked to a foreign country for
06:27want of a better of a word a cult people don't show up at yoga classes because you know they
06:32want to do
06:33bad in the world they're like looking for self-improvement to be a better human so that's why she's there
06:39and
06:39there she is in the middle of London looking like really vibrant young woman who's totally destroyed
06:44by this experience it's just wickedness to do that isn't it Uma wanted to publish my testimony anonymously
06:53in the book that was the first time I felt like she gave a voice sort of on a larger
06:59scale but then
07:00they came after her in April of 2021 I got a letter of claim a legal letter it basically says
07:10that all
07:10the allegations I've made are false defamatory severe and it's going to cause their client loss
07:16of potential students serious financial losses is their main concern initially I think I felt disbelief
07:26and then I was just terrified they want me to tell them the identity and whereabouts of all the
07:34parties who provided me with the information for you to make the defamatory allegations they want to go
07:39after the survivors that's what this is about isn't it the whole process ended up with me going to court
07:46three times and it took about two years to complete and in the end the judge decided that they had
07:56been
07:57out of time and that there were so many procedural errors that I won the call to get it thrown
08:02out of
08:03court it couldn't go any further it was a disaster financially disastrous yeah but I kept thinking you
08:11know the stress I was under was nothing compared to the deep suffering that those young women had gone
08:19through what I felt was a kind of sickening sense that these really essentially good teachings had been
08:30twisted up to serve the greed for power of the person who was in charge who was teaching them
08:53people didn't really speak about him as a human being more of a spiritual being
09:00we were really encouraged to look at him as somebody who was enlightened and elevated and whatever he
09:08taught was the truth almost as if he was Jesus
09:16I knew that the school had originated in Romania and I was told don't bother looking him up because
09:24there's this long history with Romania and religious persecution and he started teaching yoga when it was
09:32illegal and he's been persecuted and demonized by the Romanian authorities and that's all that you'll find so
09:41don't bother this is a neighborhood in the outskirts of Bucharest it's called Ferentard and this is known because the
09:59houses that are used as
10:00as ashrams by the group Misa most of them were around the streets
10:11you can see that there are no windows or very small windows very high fences many of them have very
10:18large satellite antennas and in 2004 police got information that there was much more going on inside these houses
10:29than some normal yoga classes than some normal yoga classes
10:35the police had received a lot of complaints coming from parents who told the authorities that their children were missing
10:59because they had joined this movement Misa
11:02because they had joined this movement Misa
11:04my exact împrejarea că copiilor aderaseră la o mișcare aderaseră la un cult și ajunsese să se rupă din de
11:15familia din nucleu fără o explicație foarte clară
11:21besides the fact that a lot of minors were believed to live in those ashrams the police told the media
11:28that they had information that there might be human trafficking going on that there might be organized crime activities
11:38Misa
11:45bineînțeles că am avut niște surprize după ce am pătruns
11:52mă dat eu de aici
11:54e împarte să la
11:56mă dat eu de aici
11:58mă dat eu pe da
12:07Some people didn't...
12:10Let's go here.
12:11Let's go here.
12:12Let's go here, let's go here.
12:14Let's go here.
12:15Let's go here.
12:15At any question I was asked,
12:19they were opposed to me.
12:24One of them were scared,
12:26they were angry.
12:29They didn't feel free.
12:32I was, I can say,
12:35even scared.
12:40There was no, I think,
12:42about twenty-five,
12:44or fifteen,
12:45or quite a lot,
12:46they were in the head
12:47an image of the Bivolar.
13:05I was born in Transylvania, which is a very captivating place and magical place.
13:14Yoga was entered through the contact with my mother,
13:18which was a search for spirituality.
13:23It was such a wild world,
13:26which we didn't have access to before,
13:29because it was communism,
13:31it was more open,
13:33we didn't have access to such information.
13:39After the entire period of communism,
13:41people sometimes need to gather,
13:45to create,
13:47and to deposit all hope and illusion in someone else.
13:56These courses were started when I was 11-12 years old,
14:01and I said, of course, that I could participate and I was curious.
14:07It was quite captivating to discover that there is a spiritual guru
14:12that created this yoga school,
14:15that there is someone who has answers to all our questions.
14:23The fact that I found myself there,
14:26along the Maia Rele Maestro,
14:27is something that is so intimate.
14:36So girls saw him on the wall,
14:39as an supreme symbol,
14:43a masculine symbol.
14:45Can you see that, in my vision,
14:47of a child of 15 years old,
14:49I started to see him as God.
14:52God!
15:00We were talking about it until we started the investigation
15:03and we were very much predated and implemented this vision
15:11that what outside we want evil,
15:14that there is a conspiracy, how spiritual we are.
15:21Right after the raids that were taking place,
15:24MISA started building up a defense and organizing protests.
15:30And then, exactly when all the heat was going on
15:33and all eyes were on MISA,
15:38Gregoriami Volaru decided to appear on this very popular TV show,
15:42Mario Stucca, just a few days after the raids had happened.
15:53Good evening.
15:55Good evening.
15:56Good evening.
15:56I would like to say, from the beginning,
15:58that I am not the leader of MISA,
16:02but only the mentor of these movements.
16:05What do you say the Guru?
16:07I do not say the Guru,
16:09except for the press,
16:10and for those who are trying to criticize me.
16:14I have always considered that I am a professor of yoga, Gregorian Vivolaru.
16:20Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA?
16:23The sympathizers of MISA?
16:25I do not always do sex with anyone.
16:27Because to do sex is something degrading.
16:30Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA?
16:33So, if I made love, I made love.
16:37I made love.
16:38Not the degradation of sexuality,
16:40but the love relationships,
16:43as we all know, based on love, respect, reciprocity.
16:51And my initiation happened in the beginning of the year 2000.
16:59I was a virgin.
17:02That's right.
17:03I do not want to give a lot of details about my initiation,
17:06but it was not very special.
17:10I didn't feel any pleasure.
17:11I did not feel anyå‘¢.
17:14Please note that my existence was full of blood.
17:17But it did not take any time,
17:19and I remember that sometimes I got tears.
17:26I had tears.
17:29I had 15 years and nearly 6 months.
17:32That's right.
17:38In manifestation, everything is in resonance and God is the supreme creator of everything that exists,
17:47and the spirit, through the yoga practice, has to get to know the deeper,
17:52to reach the state of enlightenment.
17:55You have obtained a character from the community.
17:59The character is not so physical, because he is not a human being,
18:04and he is not a human being a human being.
18:07It was the fact that we constantly transfigure him
18:10and put him on a constant piedestal.
18:15I am going to do this for all those who follow me for a minute.
18:21If it is, I can create a state for those who are open,
18:26to accept, with happiness, my branching into the infinite infinite force
18:33that exists in the macrocosmos.
18:36So, I will start now.
18:38He said that he is going to kind of transmit a state of absolute happiness
18:43to the viewers who are open to believing in his philosophy.
19:07You would start to wonder if that man is okay from a mental point of view.
19:20I have been involved in fighting against types of movement and cults for many years.
19:28So, that's how I became to be interested in MISA.
19:35I wanted to understand the motive of parody, what was going on with MISA in France.
19:42And I started to read and slowly investigate.
19:46It was something very well organized and always the same.
19:52So, they organize a kind of strategy where they ask women from everywhere around the world,
20:01except from France, to come in France for initiation, to improve their personal development and so on.
20:11After that, they go back to the origin country.
20:14And when you are a thousand kilometers, what can you do? Just nothing.
20:22It's difficult to accept that somebody is completely under the control of someone else.
20:28First of all, you absolutely need to have testimonies from the victims.
20:34And it was a kind of protection for Bivolari to not have compliance influence from French victims.
20:41I had reported to the Royal Charity Commission in the UK.
20:45Nothing had come of that.
20:47Like, I put something on Crimestoppers International,
20:50and I followed that up maybe once or twice, and it never came to fruition.
20:56No one ever got back to me. No one ever seemed to want to take my testimony.
21:02I put some alerts on my computers.
21:06Paris, Omania, Guru, Cult.
21:10And I quickly found this article in Australian newspapers.
21:17Paris, Omania, Guru, Cult.
21:20The testimony of Ashley.
21:24Hello, Ashley.
21:26Allow me to introduce myself.
21:30It actually is, yeah, it's pretty wild, because from where I was sitting at that point,
21:34he was just some random guy in France.
21:37And yet, he's the missing piece that I needed to connect in with the foreign police.
21:44So I was in touch with Ashley and transmitted this testimony to the Department of Police
21:50in charge of what is going on in terms of cults in France.
22:05We knew there were difficulties with this movement.
22:08But before 2021, in reality, we wouldn't start an investigation on this movement.
22:20The first crucial step is the audit of the victims.
22:24Kaimard, which is a very specialized anti-cult unit, did reach out and said that they wanted
22:31to receive my testimony verbally.
22:34Then they asked me if I wanted to make a formal complaint.
22:38And I said yes.
22:40We knew there was a possibility that Gregorian Bivolaru was on the French territory.
22:49But it was very precious because there was a risk that Gregorian Bivolaru
22:53was on the right side of the scene, they disappeared and they couldn't put their hands on it.
23:06Gregorian Bivolaru is justified for five chapters of accusation.
23:10It's talking about sexual infractions, sexual corruptions, sexual trafficking, sexual trafficking,
23:16sexual relations with minorities, but also for the intent of fraudulent crossing.
23:21After the raids, Gregorian Bivolaru denied all of the charges.
23:26What do you want to do now? Do you try to hold you?
23:30No, I won't try to hold you. I don't know why.
23:33But then, a trial had begun and he was nowhere to be found. He didn't show up in court.
23:40And the next thing we found out was that Gregorian Bivolaru appeared somewhere in Sweden.
23:47Tasturat, Gregorian Bivolaru, cel mai vânat român din ultima vreme, a fost prins și reținut în Sweden.
23:53There had only been like 15 years since the fall of the communist regime.
24:01So Misa was using this argument that was still sensitive in Romania,
24:07saying that Romania is still a corrupt country, is still a country where police use force, everything,
24:16in order to convince the Swedish authorities to refuse extradition requests.
24:21Slopitură sub centură dată justiției române. Gregorian Bivolaru nu poate fi extradat.
24:25Asta a decis astăzi Curtea Supremă de Justiție de la Stopol.
24:30Agistrații suedese au temut că liderul spiritual Misa va fi persecutat în România.
24:34In 2004, escaped Romania to go to Sweden.
24:40Officially, he was living in Sweden,
24:42but there is evidence that since at least 2007, he went in France and stayed in France.
24:59Everything I did was very much connected with the school.
25:03It was my life for quite a few years.
25:08And then I started to date people outside of the school and met somebody and had a child.
25:15So my focus shifted.
25:19I was quite disappointed because there wasn't so much understanding
25:22that life with a small child requires huge amounts of dedication and energy
25:29and I felt very much left behind.
25:34I was dedicating myself wholeheartedly to motherhood
25:38and a friend of mine called me and said,
25:41Look, you know, there are some things that I would like to share with you.
25:46So my friend came an evening and sat on the sofa and began to give me accounts of women having
25:54really awful experiences.
25:59For me, I went in because I wanted to.
26:02Like I really, really wanted it.
26:04So I never felt that I had to do anything against my own will.
26:08It was 100% my choice.
26:14But at the same time, there was a huge underlying pressure for a lot of people to do things against
26:23themselves
26:24and against their will and against their boundaries
26:26because there wasn't really that safety to say,
26:31actually, I don't want to do this.
26:40Video chaturile are a, a a a a a a a a a a f a a a a a
26:44f a a a f a a a a a a a a a a a. a a a a
27:02and at the time when you were willing to do what you wanted.
27:06It was in that period when I understood the magnitude,
27:10and when you saw the 40-year-olds,
27:14the bought houses,
27:15when you saw the Costinești,
27:18when you saw the hotel in Costinești,
27:20and I confirmed that all this prosperity
27:23of a non-profit organization
27:25comes from the sites, the videochats.
27:36I signed a contract, they took a photo,
27:40and they said,
27:41one of the reasons why this place is so special
27:46is because the profit from the site goes to him,
27:53goes to Greek.
27:59In terms of our growth and our development in the school,
28:04it started and ended with Greek.
28:09There were very many teachers in the school
28:13who were incredibly intelligent and charismatic,
28:18and all of them were just so devoted to this human being.
28:25But anybody familiar with the yin and yang symbol,
28:29we know that in each light,
28:32there's always a speck of darkness.
28:35Just like in each darkness,
28:37there's always a speck of light.
28:41I guess I made an assumption that the speck of darkness in him
28:45was really small.
28:48But from everything that's been uncovered,
28:51maybe the speck of darkness is much bigger
28:53than what we assumed.
28:58Missa and Gregorian Bivolaru have always presented Bivolaru
29:05as both a victim and a hero.
29:09That he has always been oppressed,
29:13attacked, harassed, jailed, tortured, beaten
29:19by the hands of the former secret police of Romania.
29:23It's called the Securitate.
29:31During the communist regime,
29:33we indeed lived in a closed and totalitarian society.
29:38That is true.
29:41But now, years after,
29:44we can actually look up in these files
29:47and see what really happened.
30:03The first mention of the Securitate surveilling Gregorian Bivolaru
30:11dates back from 1971.
30:16Back then, Gregorian Bivolaru was 19 years old
30:23and he was in his last high school year.
30:27They discovered that he was in contact with foreign citizens
30:33whom he was asking for pornographic materials,
30:39such as, like, photos, magazines.
30:42So we have one of those letters.
30:45I think it was 72.
30:49I know a lot of things about your sexual freedom in Sweden
30:54and I want to obtain pictures.
30:57Do you want to send me sexy photos and sexy slides from Sweden?
31:02Another letter, I have a great sympathy for the German people
31:07and in your sexy photos I can see the emancipated comprehension
31:11of the sexuality in Germany.
31:14Later on, he was actually convicted to prison
31:18because he owned and distributed pornographic materials.
31:23He was not jailed because he was a yoga practitioner.
31:26This is what we see from the files.
31:29In the summer of 1989,
31:31raids were organized by Securitate
31:34in several cities in Romania
31:36to dismantle groups that were practicing yoga.
31:43Yoga had been forbidden since 1982.
31:47Bivolaru was leading such a group,
31:49so he was again detained.
31:51But this time, the Securitate decided
31:54that his place was not in a prison,
31:56but in a psychiatric medical unit.
32:02He is basically portrayed as sexually obsessed.
32:10So, in his own words, back from 1989,
32:15he tells the Securitate agents
32:17that one day, somewhere in 1986 or 1987,
32:21I met near my house a young 12-year-old brunette girl.
32:29I think she was a gypsy.
32:32And I asked this close friend of mine
32:35to have intimate relations with the girl
32:39and afterwards to present her to me
32:43in order for me to initiate her in sexual tantrism.
32:47This shows a potential interest in very young women
32:52since so many, many years ago.
32:56And also, it goes on saying that Bivolaru,
33:00over the years, has asked his women friends
33:03to recruit other women for him.
33:08He was subject to psychiatric exam,
33:12which says that he lacks the mental capacity
33:17to assess his own actions, his own deeds.
33:21And then, just a few months later,
33:24the communist regime in Romania fell.
33:28And soon after, special commission
33:31of this psychiatric unit
33:33decided to release Gregorian Bivolaru.
33:35And soon after that, in 1990,
33:41the group called Misa took birth.
33:49So after Prague, I travelled back to the UK
33:54and I started to realise
33:57how extremist the teachings and practices
34:00of the school were.
34:03And there was this website
34:05that was made by people
34:07who were enemies of the school.
34:10We were told that it was demonic
34:13and it was better not to look at it.
34:15So, New Year's Eve, 21, 22,
34:19at home on my own,
34:20I did look at it
34:22and it was like a mirror.
34:26It just confirmed what I was already feeling.
34:31All of those moments of doubt
34:33or incongruence now made sense.
34:36And this word, cult,
34:38that before I hadn't been willing to accept,
34:42I thought that it was a term
34:44that was used to denigrate religion
34:46and spirituality
34:47and keep people away from it.
34:50At that point, on that New Year's Eve,
34:53I realised for the first time
34:54that I had to leave
34:55and I had to leave completely
34:57and I had to do something about it
34:59and I had to speak out.
35:01And then it became really clear
35:05their true colours
35:06and what they were actually capable of.
35:12So they claimed that everything was consensual
35:15and framed me as a liar.
35:17And people who I thought were my friends
35:20were lying about me
35:22and saying, you know,
35:24how I'd fallen from the path.
35:26It made me feel sad that
35:27that whole foundation of community,
35:31which had been such an important part of me
35:34remaining in there for those years,
35:36was completely inauthentic.
35:39It wasn't a real community.
35:40Those weren't real friendships.
35:41And there was no opportunity for you
35:45to truly be yourself.
35:52I got a phone call from my first relationship
35:56at the time, Paula.
35:59Initially, she wasn't prepared to discuss any of it,
36:01but she revealed everything.
36:03And it was just the final confirmation
36:06that I realised, like,
36:08this was the last straw.
36:17The fourth and last visit was in October of 2019.
36:27I wanted to move, to kind of live from the position I was,
36:31and he grabbed both my wrists
36:34and put them on the bed.
36:35Like, be quiet.
36:36And then, eventually, a little bit more after that,
36:40he didn't keep them, but he put them, you know,
36:42and then took his hands off.
36:44And then, a few minutes afterwards,
36:46I started crying so that he would just get off me.
36:51And then, he was screaming at me for, like, three hours,
36:55saying that I was never going to be invited there again,
36:58because I didn't deserve it, because I didn't love him.
37:02Then, after I left his room and I went to the room
37:04with the girls, he came into the room,
37:06and he continued saying horrible things to me.
37:09Like, he just repeated everything he said in his room
37:11to me alone in front of the girls.
37:15At that point, I said, I'm never again coming here.
37:18Like, I had it really clear, like, this is just...
37:20This is the opposite of what I ever thought it would be,
37:24you know?
37:26Like, this is super traumatic.
37:27Like, it's not enjoyable at all.
37:29Like, I'm being forced to pretend
37:32that I want to do something I don't want to,
37:34and I'm being humiliated because I don't want to, you know?
37:42That was the straw that broke the camel's back.
37:45I just, I couldn't take any more at that point.
37:47I just felt like, I've got to get out of here.
37:50I can't do this anymore.
37:53This investigator from France contacted me.
37:56So I did agree to give my testimony.
38:15I was contacted by the police officer to tell.
38:21I've been doing a lot of work and the police officer
38:21sent me a lot to leave.
38:22and he was a lawyer and that said,
38:24that I'm being the police officer.
38:24I'm watching.
38:27I was that,
38:28you know,
38:28and I am being the police officer.
38:28by this special unit and through the questioning techniques
38:33and the use of language of this French unit,
38:36I could tell that they understood.
38:38I gave them my testimony.
38:41I just knew that that's what I had to do.
38:45There was no other choice for me.
38:49By the time they spoke to me,
38:50they'd already taken statements from a few others.
38:53And I really felt that, okay, this was 10 years ago for me,
38:57but there are still women going through this now.
39:01I mean, I knew that I was a victim of sex trafficking and rape,
39:04and that was clear from, like, even the therapy that I had done
39:07and some of the things that I had read until that point,
39:10but it was something about having the police
39:11actually say it back to me
39:13after hearing all of my very personal details
39:16for multiple days, having them say,
39:18yes, this is what happened,
39:19and it's a very serious crime under French law.
39:23And we will be absolutely pursuing this as far as we can.
39:29At a moment, with the authorization of the magistrates,
39:33we had an operation of an envergure.
39:35We had about 170 inquieters who were on the ground.
39:40Just before the intervention, we had still concerns.
39:44What would we really find behind these doors?
39:49No one could have a look.
39:56175 policiers mobilisés,
39:5840 arrests simultaneously,
40:00all linked to a sectarian yoga group.
40:02A yoga yoga guru was arrested
40:03over accusations of abuse and exploitation in France.
40:06He was tempted to abuse hundreds of women.
40:10I was just excited.
40:10I don't know.
40:11It's just...
40:12I don't...
40:12Like, honestly, when Ziggy called me,
40:14I didn't really have it.
40:15I don't...
40:16I can't really find the words.
40:22It just feels like the start of the reckoning
40:25that we all wanted to see happen.
40:28He will choose to select a certain number of women
40:31from the four corners of the planet
40:33to be initiated by him.
40:35It's an initiation sexuelle
40:36under the context of personal development.
40:40At first, I wasn't sure if it was real.
40:42It was like just a lot of shock and awe
40:45and gratitude and relief.
40:48Come in.
40:57We're not there yet.
40:59This is just the first step
41:01in what will be a pretty lengthy process,
41:03but at least we know
41:05he can't be doing this any longer.
41:20Do you think he's a criminal guilty of those crimes?
41:24Do you think he's a criminal guilty of those crimes?
41:40Once I took my experiences
41:43and the events that had happened to me
41:45out of the context of their dogma
41:47and applied it to the context
41:50of other normal people's reactions,
41:53my own feelings and experiences,
41:56legal definitions,
41:57then I understood that what had happened
42:00was trafficking and rape.
42:05there's a yes in my system
42:10and also the story's complicated.
42:20But ultimately, the responsibility lies
42:24with him.
42:29To me, it was just like a bad experience
42:31something then,
42:32and then talking to my therapist,
42:34she was like, you know,
42:35let's just put the name for the things that happened.
42:40When you were kidnapped,
42:41she started to use all of these words
42:43in therapy.
42:43It was really conflicting.
42:45It was like,
42:46I don't want to hear that.
42:48That's not what happened.
42:49And she was like,
42:50she really helped me to start putting names
42:52on the things that really,
42:53like,
42:54to really name properly the things that happened.
42:58And then when I saw the charges
43:00that we were accusing him of
43:01and then it said rape,
43:03and then it was an explanation
43:05of what rape means
43:06for the French law.
43:10Any type of sexual interaction
43:12that you had
43:13that was done through manipulation
43:15or coercion,
43:17it's also called rape.
43:25We don't have to talk a lot.
43:28We just have to read
43:30after your declaration
43:31to check that there are no mistakes.
43:33I do worry about the fact
43:35that I ultimately resisted
43:37and I ultimately did say no
43:39and I left
43:40and I wasn't initiated.
43:42I didn't endure the same
43:44horrors that others did.
43:47Therefore,
43:48is that an indication
43:49that their consent was valid
43:51because I was able to say no?
43:56So this is the beginning
43:57of the shops on the Cowdy Road.
44:00So you can see the sign from here.
44:02You see it?
44:05They're not going to say
44:06that this didn't happen.
44:08They're going to say
44:09that everybody consented
44:11and therefore no crime occurred.
44:15It's all the debate.
44:17It's obviously
44:19what supported
44:20the examinations
44:22is that everyone was free.
44:24Every branch
44:25that was open
44:27when I left
44:28is still open.
44:29They target students
44:31particularly.
44:31So it's really upsetting
44:33to think
44:33that a young, impressionable
44:35person,
44:35but potentially anyone
44:36could just walk
44:39into that yoga studio
44:40and have a yoga class
44:41just like I did
44:42without knowing
44:44that it's connected
44:45to Bivalaru
44:46and Misu
44:47and that man.
44:49I see
44:51at my level
44:52as a law practitioner
44:54and because
44:55these issues
44:56that I often treat
44:57that all these young women
45:00were under
45:01psychological suggestion
45:03at the moment
45:04when they had
45:05had the effect
45:05that they played.
45:08What's going on
45:09the France
45:09is that,
45:10in a group
45:12and by a certain number
45:13of techniques
45:14and conditions
45:15you have to be
45:16deprived
45:16of your free-arbitre
45:20I think
45:21that if there is
45:22a trial,
45:23it will not be held
45:24before a year
45:28or two years
45:30or three years.
45:32We wait.
45:34We wait
45:35in a way
45:35active.
45:36In French,
45:38I don't know
45:38if your traductor
45:39will translate it.
45:40We wait
45:41at the feet
45:42like the military
45:43ready
45:44to act.
46:01It's been crazy actually.
46:03I'm just still
46:05trying to
46:06make sense of it all.
46:08Just
46:09finding myself again.
46:17I miss the community.
46:19I miss the teaching.
46:20I miss being
46:22so incredibly inspired.
46:24And I've also learned
46:26that we can't just
46:28keep our gaze
46:29up to the light
46:31when we're standing
46:32in a pile of shit.
46:36The time that I spent
46:37actually in there
46:38and working
46:39alongside the other
46:40community members,
46:41I still feel like
46:43there's a sense
46:44of accomplishment
46:44behind all of that.
46:48I have
46:49often wondered
46:50what my life
46:51would be like
46:51if I hadn't been
46:52in this organisation
46:53for seven years.
46:55Maybe I would have
46:56had children.
46:57I don't know.
46:58Like maybe I would have
46:59been in a long-term
47:00monogamous relationship
47:01for that time.
47:02It's just really hard
47:03to know what would have
47:04happened and
47:05how life would have been.
47:10I think it's good
47:12to be curious about
47:13why we're here
47:16in this incredible planet.
47:21But life is hard.
47:24Life is painful.
47:25Life is confusing.
47:27A lot of really horrible
47:29things happen.
47:30And we don't have
47:32the explanation for why.
47:33And maybe we're not
47:35supposed to.
47:38to take their power.
47:39Anumite vise
47:40din copilărie ale mele
47:41au fost spulberate
47:42de această sectă
47:44și acest mod de viață.
47:46Și eu cred că este
47:47de datoria noastră morală
47:48să luăm o atitudine
47:49și să avem o voce
47:50și să nu ne lăsăm intimidate.
47:53Și nu avem de ce
47:54să ne fie rușine.
47:56Cum obișnuiesc eu
47:57să spun în engleză
47:58dacă spun bine
47:59only if you lose your fear
48:01you have the power
48:02to take their power.
48:07I'm still trying to figure out
48:09where I sit
48:10on the spiritual spectrum.
48:11Good boy, Gil.
48:13There is a sense
48:14of spirituality there
48:15but I don't know
48:16what I believe in anymore
48:18and I'm still trying
48:19to make sense of that.
48:22Since then
48:23I realize that
48:24I have this
48:25really deep
48:26connection
48:27with the spirituality
48:29if we want to call a god
48:30or the universal source
48:32that I have such
48:33a deep experience
48:34that I don't need
48:35a guru
48:36I don't need
48:37anybody else
48:38all of this
48:39exists within me.
49:26Sous-titrage ST' 501
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