00:00My next guest was once considered a rising star in the Democratic Party.
00:04Jason Kander was a former, new memoir is out.
00:07It is a tell-all about his secretly dealing with this serious condition for 11 years,
00:13all while in the national spotlight.
00:15I'm happy to welcome the book, The Invisible Storm, a soldier's memoir of politics and PTSD.
00:22Jason, I am grateful that you're...
00:24The scary jobs or the difficult jobs is to tell you over and over again,
00:27what you're doing is no big deal.
00:29And I don't really fault the Army for that, because to get me to keep going into room,
00:32and we are dealing with this national trauma, and that made me feel like,
00:36you know, if I can tell people my journey as to how I confronted my trauma,
00:40got through it to a place of post-traumatic growth, then that would very...
00:43The country right now experiencing our own PTSD, the mass shootings, the political divide,
00:49I mean, all that we're experiencing, are we experiencing our own have military experience?
00:54Yeah.
00:54How do we not just show our appreciation for the military,
00:58but how do we help you?
01:00Well, I can tell you individuals, and I can tell you society.
01:02I can still do a little politics.
01:03There you go.
01:04But on the other side, when the warrior comes home, there's a bringing the warrior back in,
01:10right?
01:11So a lot of Native American cultures would have a ceremony where they allowed the warrior to come in,
01:16and which ones you can't, without them, you know, kind of changing how they see you.
01:20And if we were just all more exposed to it, I think it wouldn't be that.
01:24I didn't mean to do that.
01:25Because now, you have experienced so much.
01:28Yeah.
01:28Don't you think that right now you actually have more to offer than you did four or five years?
01:33In the future, because the present was pretty intolerable.
01:35I was having violent night terrors.
01:37I felt like myself and my family were in danger all the time.
01:40I had a lot of shame and system.
01:41Which is to say, yeah, at some point, I think it's very possible that I might run for something again.
01:46But I'm just having...
