00:00George Conway, welcome to Firing Line.
00:02I found as I was watching the trial and listening to Stormy Daniels' testimony,
00:07I just realized it was the perfect case for him just because it really shows you who he is and
00:13how tawdry he is. And the case really bothers him precisely because of...
00:19Of course, the thing that has been most debated about this case is the novel legal theory upon
00:23which it rests, right? You... First of all, you said you never had a quibble with that in the
00:28first place, that that part never bothered you. It's not that novel. It never bothered. Okay.
00:32But then it has... I mean, conservatives and liberals all sort of opine that it hasn't
00:36actually been tested. This man's a criminal. He's a criminal in multiple respects. He's behaved like
00:41a criminal his entire... One explanation, generous explanation that other people have given is that
00:45perhaps she just is not familiar enough with the... I don't know. I... At first, I thought... You think
00:51it's corruption. I mean, I don't think it's corruption in the sense that I don't think she's being paid
00:56or anything like that. Sort of breaking down your justification for using these terms,
01:00despite the fact that you're not a trained professional. Right, right. Nothing but himself.
01:05No empathy. Empathy, no lies, literally about everything. From the trivial to the significant,
01:09he lied about the documents that he stole. He tried to move the documents. It's all again.
01:14He has also promised that he would pardon the January 6 rioters. There are not going to be people
01:19who are going to say, no, we're not going to do that in the next administration. Donald Trump became the
01:24presumptive Republican nominee. Of course, we know that the majority of Republicans already supported
01:29him. They began falling in line pretty quickly in the primary. There were some holdouts, some
01:34Nikki Haley supporters, but even Governor Sununu, who is a strong supporter of Nikki Haley.
01:38Now that it's all said and done, we have had four years of Trump and we have seen how it
01:41ended.
01:42We also got three judicial appointments. Conservatives got three judicial appointments to the high court.
01:46Was it worth it? Being harassed by their neighbors and they were basically giving the finger,
01:50they were giving the finger to the neighbors by turning that flag upside down.
01:54Rule line between voters excusing Bill Clinton's actions to the apparent acceptance that Ken Starr
02:02was investigating Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky. How do you reflect on that, on the Clinton
02:08impeachment's now? I basically hold the same views I held then.
02:14for her.
02:14we'll discuss the capture of the
