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00:24Welcome to the Jonathan Ross show and what a fabulous line-up we've got for you tonight
00:29Let's have a look at who's in my green room first up a Hollywood icon
00:33Who over seven decades has starred in some of my favorite films of all time like Escape from New York
00:39the thing the hateful eight
00:40He's played Santa Claus. He's played Elvis
00:42He's even made a living planet in Guardians of the Galaxy. It is the one and only Kurt Russell ladies
00:46and gentlemen
00:49Amazing thank you so much for joining us Kurt
00:53Alongside Kurt one of my favorite comedians at the moment
00:55She's also an author and a writer and you know from just about every great comedy panel show over the
01:00last few years
01:00She's currently touring to sell out crowds all over the world. It is Sarah Pasco
01:10My next guest is one of this country's finest actors who's always fabulous in whatever is in like Kurt
01:16He's played just about every role in every movie you're known from reservoir dogs
01:20Pulp fiction and soon the brand-new Peaky Blinders movie our very own Tim Roth
01:25And if that weren't enough, I've also got someone who I am genuinely in all she was the president of
01:36the British Science Association
01:37She's been awarded a Damehood for her services to science education and diversity
01:42And she's even had a Barbie doll made in her honor. It's the fabulous dame Maggie Aderwin
01:53Plus an amazing artist someone who's changed the face of popular music with his band back in the day talking
02:00heads
02:00He had huge hits like burning down the house once in a lifetime wrote you know where he's won a
02:05Grammy
02:05He's won an Oscar
02:06He's won just about every award going and he's one of the most original thinkers I've ever met
02:10It's the legendary David Byrne
02:18We've also got great music tonight from a brilliant singer-songwriter who's hit song stick season and dial drunk have
02:24turned him into a global superstar
02:26It's no a car
02:32I'll keep this short, but just before I get my guest I just wanted to talk about this. Have you
02:36seen this thing online?
02:37I'm sure you've probably seen there's been a lot of footage a lot of clips. There'd be memes all over
02:41the internet of that sad little grey monkey
02:44No one wants to play with
02:47Vulnerable little creature
02:49Keep trying to make friends but keeps getting pushed away
02:52He doesn't understand the world. He doesn't understand why nobody wants to speak to him
02:57Why nobody wants to be around him and now he's been forced to find comfort next to some kind of
03:02a stuffed orange orangutan
03:04I mean the poor little fella. Here he is and your heart bleeds
03:09He's just pushed away wherever he goes
03:13The poor little fella
03:16It's heartbreak. It's heartbreak
03:18That isn't the picture
03:19Although it still works now. I'm talking about punch the monkey who lives in Ichikawa City Zoo in Japan
03:25Here's little punch. You've seen punch I'm sure online
03:27It's such a sweet look there he is
03:29And that his mum pushed him away and this happy end to the news because punch has now made a
03:33real monkey friend
03:35He no longer needs his toy companion
03:37But it got me thinking that there are times in life when all of us feel this way
03:40I'm sometimes feeling anxious or nervous
03:41I could do one of those
03:43And I think there should be no shame in carrying around a cuddly orangutan with you
03:46Whenever you feel that way. What do you think guys do you feel that I have a point?
03:49Well, there you go
03:52Actually, that just looks like a really weird charity appeal show doesn't it
03:57Should we get on with the show?
03:58Yes
03:58Right on then
03:59Let's get my first guest out. He's one of my favourite actors
04:02I'm absolutely delighted he's here
04:03It's Mr. Kurt Russell
04:21Kurt Russell ladies and gentlemen so lovely to have you here. That's fun
04:24I hope you don't mind me mentioning the length of your career
04:27In the opening there. I've been doing it for 65 years
04:3065 years. What was your first feature film?
04:33With Elvis, uh, it was called It Happened at the World, uh, Happened at the World's Fair
04:38Happened at the World's Fair
04:39Yeah
04:39Wow, imagine that it's like your first time in the films and you're co-starring with Elvis Presley
04:42Well, I wasn't co-starring
04:44I was there kicking him in the shins
04:47Oh, so you're you're seeing that did that did happen you did have you were a little kind of a
04:51pesky kid
04:52Well, he wanted to have uh, he wanted to get some pity from a nurse
04:56So he told this kid he'd pay him a quarter to kick him in the shins
05:00So they had him padded up and they gave me a few goes at it and he said, yeah, I
05:05think he's got it
05:05So you had a few goes with the stand-in or you kicked Elvis several times?
05:10No, I did a bunch of times
05:13Did you, um, the films you made that you made some weird films
05:17I have
05:18I mean they were but even then they were you had a weird career from the beginning
05:22I remember because there was one where you co-starved with a chimpanzee. Yes, uh
05:26Barefoot executive great story. It's about a monkey that could pick tv shows better than the tv show people
05:33There was one where you could turn invisible I seem to remember or someone
05:36Yeah, now you see him now you don't I don't remember what the story was but
05:42There was one when your brain got mixed up with a computer's brain computer wore tennis shoes
05:46That was the first of a bunch of those. Yeah, there's one where you became the world's strongest man. That
05:51was the name of it
05:51Okay
05:53I want to remind you and I want to enjoy with everyone else a brief moment from the world's strongest
05:57man. Have a look at this
05:58He's cutting us all way that's a big kid
06:01We'll take that formula
06:06Uh why I mean it doesn't even work
06:11See oh that's all right. We'll take it anyway
06:15Go get it boys
06:27Oh
06:42That's it. I'll get a love for that.
06:44That's the entire movie.
06:46You know what my favorite thing about those movies was?
06:49There was this guy who would always introduce them
06:52somehow in the theater or on television as an ad for it.
06:54And it was always, will you see?
06:57There was all these different movies, but it was always that guy.
07:01So you're back working in the world of TV now with a new series
07:04with an amazing creator, Taylor Sheridan,
07:06who's one of the most interesting people working
07:08in American television, I think.
07:10Tell us about Madison.
07:12He's just a hell of a writer.
07:13This is very different for him.
07:16It's just a very different show for him.
07:18It's what I feel it's fair to call Taylor Sheridan's female gaze.
07:22But it's these people who live in New York City,
07:25New York City and Montana are two characters in the show.
07:30And Michelle Pfeiffer is absolutely fabulous in this thing.
07:34And the whole cast is great.
07:36But it gets into this, a tragedy occurs.
07:39And they find themselves fish out of water.
07:43And it's fun and tragic and at times pitiful
07:47to see, you know, the change in their life.
07:52I play Preston Clyburn, who is married.
07:55We have a great marriage, these two.
07:56We can't talk about it too much,
07:58because there are some big kind of plot twists.
08:00Yeah.
08:01So we can't give any spoilers away,
08:02but I can show you a clip.
08:02And this is the Madison.
08:03It's out for you to watch next Saturday on Paramount+.
08:06Here's a clip of the Madison.
08:07Mine is not a family designed to withstand tragedy.
08:16The worry is what you do next.
08:20I know you are hurting.
08:22We are all hurting.
08:24Jungle fishing?
08:25I don't know how.
08:26Neither do I.
08:27But men do it drunk.
08:29So how hard can it be?
08:34That's why I'm here.
08:37I make a memory a day.
08:45That's for Madison.
08:46Coming next weekend for Paramount+.
08:50You know, you said the character in there,
08:52the character you play,
08:53he has a great marriage, a great relationship.
08:54You have a great marriage.
08:55Well, yeah, I do.
08:57I think I do, you know.
08:58I mean, we've been together for 43 years.
08:59So you and Gaudi hold spectacular human beings.
09:02Amazing.
09:03It is amazing.
09:04She's amazing.
09:05It's just, she's one of the great people on the planet.
09:08When did you meet them?
09:09Can you remember the place?
09:11We met on a picture.
09:12Well, we actually met in 1966.
09:14We were doing a Disney movie.
09:16It was her first movie.
09:17I was under contract at the time.
09:18I was 15 turning 16.
09:20Wow.
09:21So years later,
09:21she was doing a picture called Swing Shift,
09:23and she was producing it, and we met.
09:26And she hired me to go to work,
09:28and I went to work.
09:31Been working ever since.
09:33What did you say to her?
09:34Can you remember the first thing she said to her?
09:35I actually do, yeah.
09:37My dad and I had been out the night before,
09:39like, till like three.
09:40And I was really hungover.
09:42I mean, seriously hungover.
09:43She opened the door,
09:44and she was,
09:45I said,
09:45man, you got a great figure.
09:48I realized that today,
09:49that would be like a hashtag,
09:51hashtag me too moment, right?
09:54But she kind of looked at me,
09:55but she took it the right way,
09:56you know,
09:57and she said,
09:58well, come on,
09:58let's talk about this.
09:59I watched her put on her producer's hat,
10:01and I was very impressed right away.
10:03I went,
10:03I like that.
10:04Because you're not actually married,
10:05are you?
10:05The two of you aren't married.
10:06You never know.
10:09Maybe you are,
10:10you just haven't told him.
10:10Either way, yeah,
10:11it's very useful for tax purposes.
10:14I've been hearing that one for 43 years, sadly.
10:17But you've got a lovely blended family,
10:18and I know your daughter,
10:20she's up for an Oscar.
10:21Kate Hudson's up for an Oscar.
10:22Yeah, how about that?
10:23It's amazing.
10:25But congratulations
10:26for a beautiful little film
10:27from Dong Sang Blue,
10:29a lovely film.
10:30Are you going to the Oscars with her?
10:31Is Goldie going?
10:32Goldie's going to be her date.
10:33I thought I was going to be actually
10:35in London at the time,
10:36so I,
10:37but anyway,
10:38I think I'm going to probably
10:40have a suit sitting nearby.
10:41I'm going to get home,
10:42I think,
10:42in time to be there.
10:43Yeah.
10:44And if I am,
10:44and if things are going on afterwards,
10:47I'll throw this on.
10:48Well, best of luck.
10:49It's an amazing performance by her.
10:50I hope she does get it.
10:51She's great in that movie.
10:52She's great.
10:53It's been a,
10:54just a great pleasure to watch,
10:57you know,
10:57your little girl come up
10:59and all these years later,
11:00she's got great talent,
11:02and now she's just
11:03so easily using it,
11:04and she's terrific in that movie.
11:06So lovely.
11:07She really is.
11:07Well, you can watch Oscar's
11:09live here on ITV
11:11next Sunday as well.
11:13In the Madison,
11:14you're, you know,
11:14this guy who lives in the city
11:15and does a job
11:16he doesn't particularly like,
11:17and he's got this incredible place
11:18in Colorado
11:19that he loves.
11:20No, he's in Montana.
11:21He's in Montana.
11:21I live in Colorado.
11:22You have a place in Colorado.
11:23And in real life,
11:24you have a place in Montana,
11:24which is,
11:25it sounds beautiful.
11:26It's orange.
11:27In Colorado.
11:29It's in America.
11:30Okay?
11:31It's a really big place,
11:32but you know what I'm saying.
11:34Yeah.
11:34You've got a place
11:35outside the city.
11:36Well, Montana and Colorado,
11:38they have strong similarities.
11:40Yeah.
11:41But your place in,
11:43wherever it is in America,
11:44your place,
11:45you had a very,
11:46a person who,
11:47in this country,
11:48we hold in high esteem,
11:49of course,
11:49sadly no longer with us.
11:50Didn't Diana come
11:51to stay with you there?
11:52She had a vacation.
11:53Yeah, I met Diana.
11:55It was a,
11:55what do you call them,
11:56a royal premiere
11:57for Backdraft,
11:58a movie I'd done.
11:59And I was sitting
12:00in between she and Charles
12:03and later on in the evening
12:05spoke about different things.
12:06And I, you know,
12:07I understood her difficulties
12:09with paparazzi
12:11and all that kind of thing.
12:12So I said,
12:13if you ever,
12:14you know,
12:14if you ever want to go
12:14to some place
12:15that it's pretty under control,
12:17it's a lot of fun
12:18and, you know,
12:19we'll work it out.
12:20Let me know.
12:22And I think Fergie and Goldie
12:24somehow later on
12:25got to talking
12:26and anyway,
12:27I guess I had said something
12:29to Fergie
12:29and they got it together
12:30and she brought the two boys
12:32and they stayed there
12:33for a week
12:34and they had a wonderful time.
12:35I wasn't there,
12:36but none of us were there
12:37at the time.
12:37So they,
12:38but I,
12:38but she wrote some really nice cards
12:39and things like that.
12:40But she,
12:41they got it.
12:41I mean,
12:42and I,
12:43and I've seen Harry,
12:44a number of times
12:45since then
12:46at the polo things
12:47around Aspen
12:47and he always remembers,
12:48he's very sweet,
12:49he always remembers that
12:50as one of the really fun times
12:51that they had
12:52and I,
12:53I think that's a,
12:54that's a great thing.
12:55That's really sweet.
12:56Yeah,
12:56future king of England
12:57was sleeping in my son's room.
12:59That's always true.
13:00Harry's not going to be the king of England.
13:02That was brilliant.
13:03No, no,
13:04I meant that.
13:05I know how you guys
13:06are working over here.
13:08If you could explain it to me,
13:09I'd appreciate it
13:10because I don't really know
13:10what's going on.
13:12It's so lovely having you here
13:13and you're going to stick around
13:13for the rest of the evening,
13:14I know.
13:14I'm going to stick around.
13:15Mr. Kurt Russell,
13:16ladies and gentlemen.
13:18We're out here all night.
13:20But don't go away
13:20because up next,
13:21we'll be joined by
13:22Tim Roth and Sarah Pascoe.
13:24See you after the break.
13:36Welcome back to the show.
13:37I'm Jill Ake,
13:37the famous Kurt Russell
13:38is still here,
13:39ladies and gentlemen.
13:39But let's get my next guest out.
13:41A brilliant actor,
13:42a hilarious comedian.
13:44It's Tim Roth and Sarah Pascoe.
13:45Go on, go on.
13:55Thank you for coming up.
13:56All good.
13:57Good to have you guys.
14:00So, where are you going?
14:02Are you doing this?
14:03You go here somewhere.
14:05You go here somewhere.
14:06Are you going that side?
14:08Come up here.
14:08Come up here.
14:09Tim keeps going,
14:10go on, girl.
14:10You ready, girl?
14:11You want no stairs, girl?
14:12I bet my little pony
14:13that's been sort of brought in.
14:15Well, you know,
14:15Tim,
14:16when we told Tim
14:17who was on the show with us,
14:18he said he was particularly excited
14:19you were here
14:20because he's a big fan of yours.
14:21Yeah, not Kurt.
14:22Not Kurt.
14:23Well, you know Kurt, don't you?
14:25No, I just wasn't excited
14:26whether I know him or not.
14:29So, but you live in LA now.
14:30So, where do you see Sarah's work?
14:32So, um...
14:33I'm big in LA, Jonathan.
14:34She's huge over there.
14:36Yeah, oh, yeah.
14:37Are you big in LA?
14:37Oh, they're always talking about me.
14:39Yeah.
14:40Full on.
14:41Yeah.
14:41Yeah, she's everywhere.
14:43No, we...
14:44Me and my wife became,
14:46um...
14:47I would say,
14:48addicted to the...
14:50the British comedian,
14:51the side of the world.
14:53I mean, we absolutely did.
14:55So...
14:55Is it because you miss home?
14:57Is there something about
14:58sort of British comedians
14:59that sort of reminds you
14:59of British humour?
15:00I just think they're better.
15:03No, I just fell in love with them
15:05or I started watching...
15:06My wife found it,
15:07uh,
15:08uh,
15:08would I lie to you?
15:09I'll lie to you.
15:10Right?
15:11Yeah, it's very good, isn't it?
15:12And that...
15:13So she's...
15:14And I come into the kitchen,
15:15because it's where we live,
15:18and, um...
15:19And she said,
15:19look at this,
15:20and I watched it,
15:20and I didn't understand
15:21what was going on.
15:23And, of course,
15:24and so...
15:26And then I started going,
15:27okay, this is...
15:28You get hooked.
15:29Would you do what I like?
15:30I asked him that about
15:31Taskmaster backstage.
15:32You would do it?
15:33I think we need to get him
15:33booked on all of these shows.
15:35Can you imagine an episode
15:36of Would I Like You?
15:36Sarah Pascoe,
15:37Tim Woff and Kurt Russell.
15:41So what happens is,
15:42you open a card,
15:43and it says something on it,
15:44like, um,
15:45my golden retriever
15:46once dug into next door's garden
15:48and stole her knickers.
15:49And then everyone asks you
15:50questions about it,
15:51and then you have to say,
15:53they guess whether
15:53it's a true story or not.
15:55Yeah.
15:55So you would just have to
15:56tell the story,
15:57and we would ask you, like...
15:57I think Kurt's out.
15:59I'll be honest with you.
16:00Tim, you've known Kurt
16:01for years,
16:02because, of course,
16:03Hateful Eight,
16:03what an amazing film.
16:05I only know him as Ozzy.
16:06That's almost 10 years ago now.
16:08No, it's 11 years, I think.
16:09It's amazing.
16:10We were, like,
16:12it's flying.
16:13Have you kept in touch since then?
16:14We have a text.
16:15We have a text.
16:16We have the group text
16:18from Hateful Eight,
16:19which we started on set.
16:20Yeah.
16:21And so when I did actually know
16:24that he was going to be on this,
16:25he didn't know I was going to be on it.
16:26It's interesting, isn't it?
16:28Well, I don't know,
16:28but that's not his fault.
16:29I've only known you an hour,
16:31but I think you're a flakier book in.
16:32I am a good girl.
16:33That's always more likely to lie
16:34if he's definitely going to turn up
16:36and be here.
16:37He's got nowhere else to go.
16:39So, no,
16:40so I texted the group saying,
16:42Kurt, I'll see you on whatever date this is.
16:45What?
16:46No, I didn't know what date,
16:47I don't know what date it is.
16:47We've been talking a lot.
16:48Yeah.
16:49And he was like,
16:49what?
16:50And then Sam and all the gang were going,
16:52I want to be at that party.
16:54Yeah, I'm jealous.
16:56Wanted to be here,
16:57so you better ask him.
16:58We will ask him next time.
16:58It's one of those things like Ocean's Eleven
17:00where there'll be more,
17:01like a hateful nine,
17:03a hateful ten.
17:04They better get to it.
17:05Don't worry.
17:06There'll only be three left soon.
17:08Yeah.
17:13Let me ask you about something
17:14that I heard happen on set,
17:15and I think you were there, Tim.
17:16I don't know.
17:17Oh, there we go.
17:18Kurt was responsible
17:20for damaging something irreplaceable.
17:21I wasn't responsible.
17:22Yeah, you were.
17:23I was there.
17:24You were there, weren't you?
17:25Yeah, I was.
17:25I'm afraid.
17:25Oh, what was said before that take?
17:27Oh, that's true.
17:28Thank you very much.
17:29I don't want to go up a bad thing here.
17:31No, no, no.
17:32This is good.
17:33Okay.
17:33You know what happened was this.
17:36Jennifer's playing this guitar,
17:37and it really,
17:38it meant a lot to her,
17:40and she'd been working on it
17:41and working on it.
17:43Now we're going to do this scene
17:45where I get angry
17:46at the character I'm playing
17:47and smash it.
17:50Okay, Quentin,
17:51I go, I go, I go,
17:52at this point,
17:53and if you don't say anything,
17:55I continue on smash the guitar, right?
17:57So, okay, yeah, we do.
17:59We do it a couple times.
18:00Quentin says cut.
18:00Boom, we get the thing.
18:01Now we get to do it the one time.
18:03No cut, no thing.
18:04I smash the guitar,
18:06and I turn around and look at her,
18:08and she's got an expression on her face
18:09that ain't right.
18:11Yeah.
18:12And I knew something was wrong,
18:13but, you know,
18:14continue with the scene.
18:15Now starts the routine.
18:17Well, you know that guitar
18:18was worth $15,000,
18:20says the prop man.
18:20Here it comes.
18:22$15,000.
18:22I said,
18:23$15,000?
18:24I said,
18:24that's, you know,
18:24pretty,
18:25that's a lot of money
18:25for a guitar, right?
18:26I mean,
18:26that's too bad.
18:29Within six months,
18:30it was a $50,000.
18:33Within a year,
18:34it was $500,000,
18:36and now it's a priceless Gibson,
18:39or...
18:39It was an antique,
18:411870s Martin guitar.
18:42It's now,
18:42what is that?
18:43It's now,
18:43this is new.
18:441870s.
18:44It's an 1870s.
18:46It was the first ever guitar.
18:47Bullshit.
18:48Completely bullshit.
18:50Yeah.
18:50So,
18:51it'll just go up and up and up
18:52as the years go by.
18:54You've worked with Goldie as well,
18:56of course,
18:56haven't you?
18:56Yes.
18:58This was a film in the...
19:0096.
19:01Everyone says,
19:01I love you.
19:02How did that go?
19:02How was it?
19:03Well,
19:03I can't sing,
19:04and it was a musical,
19:05so that should tell you something.
19:08But there was a moment
19:09with Goldie
19:11where...
19:12So,
19:13it was a Woody Allen film,
19:14and he would come to me
19:16and he'd go,
19:16OK,
19:17you've got the whole house,
19:17there's a big party
19:18going on in this house,
19:19all the actors are in,
19:20everyone's fropped up,
19:22and I play a character
19:23who shouldn't be there,
19:24but it's there
19:25because of Drew Barrymore's character,
19:26so there's all that going on.
19:28So he said,
19:28the house is yours,
19:30we've got the camera,
19:30you will...
19:32It's quite a free form.
19:34Very much that.
19:35So I come in,
19:36hooligan acting type,
19:38and...
19:40At one point,
19:43Goldie walks past me,
19:45and I just smacked her up.
19:49And the look that she gave me,
19:53I swore it wasn't acting.
19:56I mean, she's good,
19:57but she's not that good.
19:59I thought she's going to tear me up.
20:01I think the women here
20:03are going to tear you up.
20:04Did you not hear that reaction?
20:05You were in character,
20:06you were playing a bogus character.
20:08Oh, OK.
20:09So the look that she gave me,
20:11I think that was the last time
20:12I saw her as well
20:13on that film.
20:15So years later,
20:16we're doing our thing
20:18on Hateful Eight,
20:19and who's walking across?
20:20It's him and Goldie,
20:21and at that point,
20:23I walked up to her
20:23and I said,
20:24I've been wanting to do this
20:25for so long,
20:26I really...
20:27I don't know if you remember,
20:28but when we worked together
20:29and I slapped her,
20:31I said,
20:31I just wanted to say
20:31I'm really, really sorry,
20:32and she just broke down laughing.
20:36So I carried the guilt
20:37for so long,
20:38and she thought,
20:39it's hilarious.
20:41But I was,
20:43I was, I must say,
20:44quite terrified.
20:45Mortified.
20:46So you started as an actor,
20:49or you wanted to be an actor?
20:50I wanted to be an actor
20:50for many years.
20:51I'm a failed actor.
20:52Yeah, sure.
20:53This is...
20:53It shows.
20:57He's the cheekiest man
20:58I've ever met, Jonathan.
21:00Yeah, I wanted to be an actor.
21:02I auditioned for drama school
21:03for five years
21:03and didn't get in.
21:04I'm very lucky I'm a comedian
21:05and play myself all the time.
21:09Pajamas?
21:10Pajamas school, yeah.
21:11Drama school.
21:12Pajamas school.
21:13That's how good my...
21:15That's how good my...
21:16That's a great example of my...
21:19That's a great example
21:19of my Essex fiction.
21:21I don't think I'm a good actor, yeah.
21:23All right.
21:24Yeah.
21:25I tried my best.
21:26Do you get many parts early on?
21:27Were you given a chance?
21:29I auditioned when I was 14
21:30for Barrymore's My Kind of People.
21:33Do you remember that program?
21:34Michael Barrymore's My Kind of People?
21:36Yeah.
21:37But that's not really an acting job,
21:38is it?
21:38That's like a...
21:39That was a variety show.
21:40Yeah.
21:41But, you know, you've got to get your break
21:42where you can.
21:44What did you do?
21:45What was your performance?
21:46What did you do?
21:46I'd been practising with a tape
21:48of More Than Words by Extreme
21:52and then I went up in a shopping centre
21:55in West London
21:56and I'd never had to do it
21:57with sheet music before
21:59and so I didn't know when to come in
22:01because I only knew when to come in
22:02when the man on the tape came in.
22:03Yeah.
22:05And so, this was all to make everyone at school like me.
22:08That's why I wasn't very popular
22:09so I thought, oh, if I go on TV,
22:11I won't tell anyone, I'll just sing amazingly
22:12and then they'll all watch it on Saturday night
22:14and then as the song was going on and on,
22:16I thought, oh, it's definitely should have started singing by now.
22:20I don't want to be my friends
22:21so I thought, I'll just have a small cry
22:24just while I think about what to do.
22:26And then, because people are inherently nice
22:28and I think we forget that people are
22:29and it's very uncomfortable
22:30to watch someone having a terrible gig, I should know.
22:33So, the audience, they started singing at the chorus,
22:37the people in the shopping centre,
22:38they all started singing the song
22:40so I joined in with them, you know, still crying
22:42but then the thing is,
22:45on the way out of the shopping centre,
22:46I was walking so quickly
22:47and several people stopped me to say, well done
22:49and they said, so, you know,
22:50they said things like,
22:51you were brave for getting up there
22:52and well done for having to go.
22:53One woman told me I had a pretty voice
22:54so by the time I got back on the tube,
22:56I thought I smashed it.
22:58I thought no one had noticed me crying
23:00and I just couldn't wait to see myself
23:01on Saturday night television.
23:04So, I want to talk about your tour.
23:05I haven't seen you on this tour.
23:06Your new tour is called,
23:07I am a strange gloop.
23:09I am a strange gloop.
23:10And what sort of stuff do you cover on this tour?
23:12What sort of, is it still, is it home life?
23:14Is it, because your stuff is quite surreal sometimes.
23:15It can be.
23:16This is very not surreal.
23:17It's a lot about,
23:19a little bit about the kids.
23:20It's a lot about marriage actually.
23:21It's trying to work out why marriage is important
23:23and what monogamy is
23:24and, you know,
23:26and just sort of silly stories
23:28of trying to cope really.
23:29I'm finding out a lot about the local soft plays.
23:31That's the, that's my thing.
23:33That's what I'm reduced to now.
23:36In Sheffield,
23:37because they'd been telling me
23:37how good their soft play was,
23:39a man was waiting for me after the gig,
23:41a young man, like a 20-year-old,
23:42and he said,
23:42I work at the soft plays.
23:44He said,
23:44when we have a code brown in the ball pit,
23:48and then he started to tell me what a code brown is,
23:50and I was like,
23:51I've cracked the code.
23:52Yeah, yeah.
23:54And then he said,
23:55when we have a code brown in the ball pit,
23:56there's no way.
23:57Do you know what a soft play is, Kurt?
23:58Nope.
23:58Nope.
24:01I'm like,
24:01I'm acting.
24:02Yeah.
24:04This is the best listener I've ever met in my life.
24:06And he's just like,
24:07that's not a fucking clue.
24:08He's loving the story about the soft play.
24:11It's like a jungle gym.
24:12Okay.
24:14Tiny colours.
24:15They make them big warehouses.
24:16Anyway,
24:17he said,
24:17when we have a code brown in the ball pit,
24:19we've got nowhere to clean the balls
24:21apart from the dishwasher in the cafe.
24:23Oh.
24:25I don't know if that's true of all of them,
24:27or if Sheffield is particularly ranked,
24:28but I don't think we should eat in those places.
24:30Wow.
24:30We need a cup of tea.
24:32Okay, so here's exciting news.
24:34The Peaky Blinders movie is in cinema.
24:39That's a huge thing.
24:41The love people have for Peaky Blinders in this country
24:43is enormous.
24:44I know there's been all over the world.
24:45It's called The Immortal Man,
24:47as in cinemas now,
24:48it'll be on Netflix from the 20th of March.
24:49And so it's kind of,
24:50the backdrop is the war in Europe,
24:52the Second World War,
24:53and you play a very interesting character.
24:55Yeah,
24:56I'm the good guy,
24:57innit?
24:59LAUGHTER
25:01And,
25:02yeah,
25:04he's trying to bring peace
25:06to this country
25:08and end a war.
25:11And he's doing that how,
25:13this good guy?
25:14Well,
25:14he's...
25:15LAUGHTER
25:15All right, so he's a Nazi.
25:17Anyway,
25:18there was this actual event
25:22that did take place
25:22where they were going to...
25:24they were going to...
25:27flood Britain with counterfeit currency.
25:30Destabilise the economy completely.
25:32It's completely trashing.
25:33So the idea is the beginnings of that.
25:36He goes to get the help of the Peaky Blinders.
25:39It's a...
25:39OK, I'm going to show you a train...
25:40I have to be very careful.
25:42No, but it's great fun.
25:43It's a great, fun film.
25:44It's a really satisfying crowd-pleaser.
25:46And, of course,
25:46seeing Killian back as Tommy Shelby
25:48is going to be just a delight
25:50for so many people.
25:51Let's have a look.
25:52This is, as I said,
25:52it's out in cinemas now.
25:53It'll be on Netflix on the 20th of March.
25:55Look at this.
25:58I need to know
25:59that you are willing to take part
26:01in an act of treason
26:02that will decide this war for Germany.
26:07The world don't give a fuck about me.
26:10And I don't give a fuck about the world.
26:18I'm looking for me, son.
26:20Who the fuck are you?
26:21Everybody stay calm
26:23because this man, ladies and gentlemen,
26:25it's Tommy Shelby.
26:27Who the fuck is Tommy Shelby?
26:33Perhaps someone should explain to him
26:35who I am.
26:37There you go.
26:39It's great.
26:40It's a great, fun film.
26:42You went to the premiere
26:43of Peter Blankton,
26:43but you don't normally go
26:44and watch yourself on screen, do you?
26:45I never, I don't watch,
26:46I make, the only exception
26:48would be with Quentin's stuff
26:49and this fantastic filmmaker
26:51that I work with,
26:52Michel Franco from Mexico,
26:53but no.
26:56And I haven't for years
26:57and I really like it that way,
26:59but Killian threatened me.
27:01Actually physically threatened me.
27:03So, I thought, okay, I'll see it.
27:06And I did have fun.
27:07Jonathan, do you watch your programs back?
27:09Did you watch Traitors?
27:11Actually, I did watch some of Traitors,
27:13yeah, I watched some of Traitors,
27:13but that's because my wife wanted to watch it.
27:15I don't normally watch myself back at all.
27:17It's an odd thing to do.
27:18Do you do it?
27:19Do you watch something?
27:19No, it makes you feel sick.
27:20Yeah.
27:21Yeah.
27:21It's really weird.
27:22We didn't evolve with mirrors.
27:23It's weird enough seeing a photograph of yourself
27:26and seeing it outside.
27:27I think it makes you feel mad.
27:28But you know why?
27:29It's because the three of us,
27:30we're quite average looking,
27:32but I bet you Kurt watches himself back and thinks,
27:35that's a pretty good look going on.
27:38I believe we've got Lungton with Jonathan.
27:40I'm like, look at her.
27:43We're gorgeous, thank you.
27:45You are.
27:46We're all.
27:47We're in Kurt's gang.
27:49We're Hollywood, baby.
27:50Come on.
27:51Hollywood ends there.
27:52It starts there, ends there.
27:54Okay, stick around.
27:55You're going to be here for the rest of the evening,
27:56all of you.
27:57It's lovely to have you here,
27:57but don't go away,
27:58because up next we'll be joined by
27:59David Byrne and Dame Maggie Addoin.
28:02See you after the break.
28:15Welcome back.
28:15Welcome back to the show.
28:16Let's get my next guest right out here.
28:18We've got two legends in the run-wide,
28:21and they're going to arrive
28:22by their favourite means of transport.
28:24It's Dame Maggie Addoin and David Byrne.
28:26Here they come.
28:39Excellent one.
28:40David.
28:41Fabulous.
28:43He's out there.
28:44Come and join us.
28:45Come and sit down.
28:46Come and sit down.
28:46Come here.
28:47Just right here.
28:48Just right here, Dave.
28:50Just right here.
28:50Get away from me, Dave.
28:51And now, David Byrne.
28:57And as I promised you,
28:59Dame Maggie Addoin.
29:05There we are.
29:06What a way to make an entrance.
29:09David, lovely to see you.
29:10Maggie, lovely to see you.
29:12First of all, we should explain the outfit,
29:13because I didn't request you wear that, did I?
29:15Oh, well, we know.
29:16Yeah, I know.
29:17We're both fans.
29:18But this is your own from home, isn't it?
29:20It is, yes, yes.
29:22Star Trek played such an important part in my life.
29:24I wanted to be sort of, I suppose, channeling your horror
29:29while I'm here.
29:29Yeah.
29:30And you would like to be in Star Trek, wouldn't you?
29:32Well, yes, because I've actually been in The Clangers.
29:36You know, it's a little cartoon show.
29:38Oh, yeah, The Clangers.
29:39And I'm only the second human to visit.
29:41So I reckon if I wore this, I might get a part in the next movies.
29:45David, let me ask you about cycling,
29:47because you cycled onto the set.
29:48I know that you cycle wherever you tour.
29:50When you tour, you take a bike with you, don't you?
29:52Yes, that very bike.
29:53What is it about cycling that you love?
29:55Oh, it means we can get around.
29:57The whole band does it.
29:58We can get around anywhere and go see, explore the town.
30:03Have you ever gone on any of the wine trips?
30:05No, I've heard those are great.
30:07Do it.
30:08I've heard they're really good.
30:09Absolutely great, because you have more time
30:11when you're on a bicycle and you hear things.
30:13You hear something, you go, what is that down there?
30:15And somebody's getting married.
30:17And you kind of just wander down.
30:18And then always they, come on down, come on in.
30:20And their story is Kurt Russell gate crashed out.
30:23And they just turned off over a hill on the fire.
30:25What are you doing down there?
30:28I went to see David's show,
30:30and it's one of the best shows I've seen in my entire life.
30:32It's an amazing show.
30:34And there are some more dates around the UK,
30:37and you're going to be at the Latitude Festival.
30:38Yes.
30:39I know in July.
30:40So if you get the chance to go.
30:41And what struck me was it felt, you know, we're living in,
30:43I think we're all aware, slightly kind of challenging times, globally.
30:47But I really came away with a sense of optimism,
30:49seeing the way you were on stage,
30:51seeing the way you were connected with this group of people,
30:53performing all ages, from all different parts of the world,
30:56all performing.
30:56And in a way, you know, essentially quite a simple thing.
30:59And I know early in your career, when I saw your early stuff,
31:02you struck me as being someone who was kind of like distanced from other people.
31:05There seemed to be a cultist.
31:06Have you changed, or have we just come to see a different version of you?
31:09I think I've changed over the years.
31:11I mean, I've been doing it for a while,
31:12and I've gotten a little more comfortable.
31:15Yeah.
31:16Years have passed, I've been more comfortable around people.
31:19Here I am on this show.
31:20Yeah.
31:21And your dancing, were you always comfortable dancing the way you do on stage?
31:27Yeah, I mean, I'm not being, you know,
31:31because you're not like a conventional dancer.
31:35Okay.
31:35It's like a loaded question.
31:37Where are you going?
31:39You know what I'm saying?
31:40You're doing stuff where like you're falling over as part of the routine.
31:45Well, that was a move that I tried.
31:47Yeah, I thought I have to come up with my own.
31:49I mean, all the rock and rollers are doing their own moves,
31:52and James Brown was doing these splits and everything else,
31:56and I thought, you know, I don't think I can do that,
31:58and I shouldn't do that because somebody else is doing it,
32:01and they're doing it really, really well.
32:03So I thought I have to come up with my own things.
32:06So I tried.
32:08One of them was, yes, see if it looks like you can stumble.
32:11Stumble like you're going to fall over,
32:14and just keep going across the stage like you're going to fall over.
32:18And did you fall over ever doing it?
32:20No.
32:21You see, that's the control of a dancer.
32:24You know what you mean?
32:25I used to think that.
32:26I was like, God, he's right on the edge there.
32:29He's right on the edge there, but he's so great with the music.
32:32It really is great to watch.
32:34Let's remind ourselves, this is David,
32:36sometimes with his band, sometimes solo.
32:37Look at this, it's amazing.
32:41Watch out, you might get what you're after.
32:46Cool babies, strange but not a stranger.
32:51I'm at all, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:55Burning down the house, we're on a road to nowhere.
33:05I've got a girlfriend that's better than that.
33:09And nothing is better than this.
33:12Oh, it's hot.
33:17Into the blue again.
33:19After the money's gone.
33:21Once in a lifetime.
33:23Water flowing under.
33:25Everybody wonders what you're going to do.
33:28Everybody's wearing, everybody's shoes.
33:37Thank you very much.
33:37Thank you very much.
33:38Beautiful.
33:38Thank you very much.
33:41Do you see, um, um, the last part of that montage, uh,
33:45everyone laughs, was like, uh, David's was singing.
33:47You can see what I mean?
33:48There's that sense of community.
33:50There, and it really comes across.
33:51And it must be, I guess it's an important message to be getting out there.
33:54Yes.
33:55Especially now.
33:56Yes.
33:56When it seems like, well, especially in the States, where, where do we go?
34:04We arrived at some country and they go, oh, you're from the United States of,
34:08United, the divided States of America.
34:10Yeah, yeah.
34:10Yeah, yeah.
34:11Are you optimistic, though, about the future?
34:13I have to be, yeah, I have to be.
34:15It'd be hard to live the other way.
34:18Yeah, yeah.
34:19Uh, Maggie, let's talk to you, because, uh, I'm fascinated by your work
34:21and I love you, as you know.
34:23Uh, do, would, if I called you a space scientist, is that, does that kind of cover it?
34:27Oh, yeah, yeah.
34:28Yeah, and so what does that actually mean?
34:29Yes.
34:30So, as a space scientist, I build satellites, uh, some go in low Earth orbit,
34:35about 300 kilometres above sea level.
34:37Others go in and look into deep, dark space and, um, and everything else in between, really.
34:42How old were you when you built your first telescope?
34:4514.
34:46I was a nerd, I still am.
34:49You're the coolest nerd ever.
34:52It's amazing what you can do.
34:55Maggie's got a book out, a book about her life and about her work.
34:58It's called Starchild, My Life Under the Night Sky, and it's a fabulous read.
35:01And I didn't know that much about, but you can, both parents came from Nigeria.
35:05Yes.
35:05They're over here.
35:07You're raised mainly in London.
35:09Yes.
35:09Um, but just an incredible journey.
35:11What age did you think, okay, astronomy is for me, science is for me?
35:15For me, it's really weird.
35:16And I think I might be lucky, but I'm not sure.
35:19But I can't remember a time when I wasn't fascinated by everything out there.
35:23And I think it started, um, by hearing about the moon landings.
35:26So I was born in 1968.
35:281969, the moon landings happened.
35:29So I don't remember them.
35:30And people say I was taking my first wobbly steps as Neil Armstrong was taking his giant leap.
35:35I don't remember.
35:36But, um, uh, but I was brought up in that buzz of excitement.
35:39Yeah.
35:40And then along came the clangers to sort of, you know, seal the deal.
35:43Yeah.
35:43And they turned out to be a sort of a bit of a gateway drug.
35:45Yeah.
35:45Start watching the clangers before you know it.
35:47Star Trek.
35:49And that's what Doom came to.
35:50Have you met any of the first astronauts?
35:52Of the first astronauts?
35:54Yeah.
35:54No, um, I got, I've met Neil Armstrong's son and Buzz Aldrin's son, but never, never the originals.
36:00Well, Sarah.
36:01Oh, Sarah.
36:02Oh, ooh.
36:03Sorry to sort of step in.
36:04One of my very first earliest radio bookings is a comic for Radio 4.
36:08And, you know, they sort of bring you up and tell you who else is going to be on the
36:10show, like today.
36:11And they were like, oh, so it's Jimmy Carr's going to be on.
36:13And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to meet Jimmy Carr, you know.
36:15And then they were like, and Buzz Aldrin.
36:18Just put that in.
36:18What a mix.
36:19And it's like, you know, I learned about him at primary school.
36:21So who's he coming with?
36:23Tutankhamun and his father's son.
36:24It's all in daily history.
36:26I couldn't believe it was really my life.
36:28And then, oh, this is a photo of us.
36:30So, this is us in the room at Radio 4.
36:32And so Jimmy there.
36:34And Jimmy, it was the first time I met him.
36:37But he whispered in my ear, he went, touch him, he's been on the moon.
36:41Because I've got my arm right on Buzz Aldrin.
36:44Just a joke.
36:45But I'm so glad he did that.
36:47I touched him, he's been on the moon.
36:49But I was fascinated in the book because there were times when, obviously, you were, you know,
36:52being a woman in that industry as well, you were undervalued.
36:56And you were often, people would make one of the clumsy mistakes and ideas about who you were.
37:02Tell me about you, you were chairing a meeting once, weren't you?
37:05Yes, yes.
37:05And so, as a space scientist, I've been a project manager, sort of managing the project, the budget and everything
37:10else.
37:11And sometimes people come for meetings and they'll come in and they'll sort of look at me and say,
37:16oh, two sugars in my coffee lab and make it quick.
37:19And the thing is, when that happens, you think, ooh, and it's smart, but you think, well, how can I
37:24handle this?
37:25Because I could sort of go, I put, you know, I do know who I am.
37:29But I think that it's much better to sort of break the ice.
37:33And so what I usually do is I go and get the coffee and say, there's your coffee here, here's
37:36the sugars.
37:37And then I say, now, let's get this meeting started.
37:40Dr. Maggie here, ready to get going.
37:42And so it's more re-education.
37:44I'm going to have you spat in the coffin.
37:49No one's watching.
37:50I'm sorry, enjoy that.
37:54Hey, my actors, we get that all the time.
37:56You must enjoy the look on their faces when you let them know that you're in charge.
38:00And the thing is, that is the wicked bit, because it's sort of just, you know, that little moment of,
38:07Let me ask you about a contemporary artist, David, if I may, because you are now, whether you like it
38:12or not,
38:12an elder statesman, looked up to, admired by many in the music industry
38:16who weren't even alive when you first started recording,
38:19and that you seem to have an appreciation of and you like working.
38:21I know last year you were working with Olivia Rodrigo.
38:24Yes.
38:25Which is an amazing collaboration, and I imagine a lot of young fans.
38:30David's the one on the left.
38:33We did try to coordinate her, our outfits, but she showed me hers, and I said,
38:39no, I don't have that one.
38:41Who do you listen to?
38:42Do you listen to many contemporary artists?
38:44What albums of recent years or recent months have you enjoyed?
38:47Oh, everybody's, a lot of people are talking about the Rosalia record.
38:51And I believe you're a fan of Lily Allen's latest album.
38:54Oh, yeah, yeah.
38:55I think everybody probably knows that record by now, and I thought, that is amazing.
39:00I'm so jealous, but I'm not jealous of what she went through.
39:03No.
39:04Have you met Lily Allen?
39:05I haven't met Lily Allen, but I got a phone call from a PR woman saying,
39:09Lily Allen would like to sexually empower you.
39:12Wow.
39:12Yeah, and I said, I said, all right.
39:16Join me up.
39:17A couple of hours later, a man knocked at my door, and he's the most embarrassed I've
39:20ever seen anyone look into.
39:21He's white red and all sweaty, and it's because he's holding this box, it's dark green with
39:25gold letters on the front, and it says, I masturbate.
39:28And he'd have had to walk quite a long way with that, because there's no parking in my house.
39:33And he chucked this box at me and then scuttled away.
39:36And at that point, I did feel quite sexually empowered.
39:39I didn't know that shame in men was my kink.
39:43And then I just left it on the floor, so at that point, I didn't know what was inside.
39:47I can now tell you what was inside was some sort of, like, tissue paper and some chocolates
39:51and a sex toy, because Lily Allen had put her name to a...
39:56You're not like, you know, David knows it.
39:59This sex toy that apparently worked really well for, like, helping women be in charge of
40:03their own pleasure and satisfy themselves.
40:05I can't tell you if any of that's true, because I only ever saw it once, and that was
40:08in the garden in my dog's mouth.
40:12I had to get off him, because, you know, I've got neighbours, and I didn't want to think
40:15that I was going to...
40:17It's kind of complicated her dildos, so I had to sort of, like, run out and try and get it.
40:20You know, like, if you chase a dog, they sort of run around, and they think it's a day.
40:23Yeah, but then I didn't feel sexually empowered at all.
40:27So, almost.
40:29I know it's not the point, but what eventually happened to the dildo?
40:32I gave it to the charity shop.
40:35It wasn't one of you, it's the bike mark.
40:38How did you explain the bike mark?
40:40Yeah, that's nice.
40:41Guys, we have to take another break, but don't go away, because we're going to find out
40:44whether aliens really exist, and Noah Kahn will be performing in the studio.
40:48See you after the break.
41:00Welcome back to the show.
41:01I'm still here with all my guests.
41:03You must get this all the time, Maggie, I'm sure.
41:05Do you think there is life out there?
41:06Do you think we'll meet it?
41:07Have we met it already, without realising, David, or...
41:15No, Amanda, if there is something on the planet already, what's your take on it as an esteemed scientist?
41:20Oh, gosh, esteemed.
41:21Well, as a scientist, I truly believe there is life out there, because to me, it's human
41:27hubris, and we do it again and again.
41:29If you go back in time, we were the centre of the universe, you know, everything revolved
41:33around us, and we could see the evidence, you know, the sun rose, the sunset, the stars
41:36wheeled around us, and then we realised that, hold it, there were these things that are doing
41:40odd stuff.
41:40And so our knowledge has evolved, and we realise, with each step, how insignificant we are.
41:46And so we live on a planet, you know, beautiful planet Earth, you know, third rock from the
41:50sun, but our local star is the sun, and all the stars we see in the night sky are suns
41:55like our sun.
41:56In our galaxy, in the Milky Way, there are approximately 300 billion stars.
42:02And what we're finding is most of those stars have planets going around them, and we can detect
42:06them and look at their atmospheres in some cases.
42:08And then one of the things the Hubble Space Telescope taught us is that in the whole of
42:11the universe, there are maybe 200 billion galaxies.
42:14Why would it just be here?
42:16I believe, Kurt, who is a pilot, not so much anymore I know, but you were a pilot for many
42:22years, you witnessed something which has kind of gone down as an unexplained phenomenon.
42:26It was the most witnessed, this is a part of the most witnessed UFO, the one in Phoenix.
42:32Yes.
42:34So 20,000 people.
42:35But anyway, I'm taking my son Oliver, he's going to go see some friends, and so I'm flying
42:40from Los Angeles to, I think it was Sky Harbor, and we go into the Sky Harbor, doing the approach.
42:44And Oliver finally says to me, Pa, are we okay here?
42:46What are those lights?
42:47And I, for the first time, said, yeah.
42:49You know, I said, I don't know what those lights are.
42:52So I'm looking at one light, two lights, two other lights, perfect line.
42:57And I said, no, I don't know exactly what that is.
43:00And he said, well, are we okay here?
43:03And I said, hmm.
43:04So I'm talking to the tower, and I said, are you guys painting anything above the airport?
43:08Are you looking at any radar?
43:10And no, we're not showing anything.
43:11They're unidentified, they're flying, and I don't know what those objects are.
43:15But here's the interesting part.
43:17About six years later, a guy come home one night, and Goldie's watching TV, and there's
43:23this show on it.
43:24She's watching this show.
43:26And I'm suddenly like Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters, and I'm, you know, I was
43:32like, I need mashed potatoes to build a mountain here, right?
43:34And I'm going, I know, I know, I know, what is this?
43:38And the guy comes on, he said, the most witnessed 20,000 people.
43:41Well, but only one general aviation pilot declared.
43:46And I'm listening to myself.
43:48I can't pronounce it, too, take a FIERA, I remember.
43:50And I'm listening to this, and I said, that's me?
43:53Wow.
43:55And Goldie said, I said, yeah, I took Oliver to, I remember that.
44:00I said, wait a minute, I'll have that in my logbook.
44:02Went back into the closet, looked at my logbook.
44:06Yeah, I made the flight, no mention of it.
44:08I called Oliver, and I said, hell, remember the time we landed in Sky Harbor, and we saw
44:13those lights?
44:14He went, oh, yeah, yeah.
44:16I said, have you ever thought of that between now and then?
44:17He said, no.
44:19I said, neither have I.
44:20I'm telling you, these aren't the droids you're looking for.
44:25You think your memory had been wiped?
44:28Your memory had been wiped?
44:29Oh, I remember everything about it, but it was gone.
44:32It was gone.
44:32I mean, it didn't register it.
44:33It happened, and it was gone.
44:35Wow.
44:35I never thought about it.
44:36Well, it's good you're here tonight.
44:37That was weird.
44:38Because Maggie can now tell us what that was.
44:41I have this crazy, crazy idea that the aliens are going to come in about, you know,
44:46five years' time and say, look, humans, we've had enough, you know,
44:48saw off shotguns, chuchu, we've had enough of you.
44:51They're going to slaughter us.
44:52We're going to take you out.
44:53It sounds like you're going to turn, Maggie.
44:57But the thing is, I'm going to wipe you out unless you get your act together.
45:00And so we think, oh, no, no, and we run around like headless chickens,
45:03and then we start working together, and we sort of...
45:06I go the other way.
45:06Tell you what I find weird about this is the fact that they're coming with shorn off shotguns.
45:12David, I never thought I'd be saying this, but I'm going to turn to you
45:15for the voice of common sanity here.
45:19I want to ask Maggie, what forms could they take?
45:24My thought is that, as you said, they have to...
45:29Just percentages.
45:30There has to be life out there.
45:32It just has to be.
45:33But we might not recognise it.
45:35It might be a cloud.
45:36Yeah.
45:36It might look like...
45:39Who knows?
45:40I had an argument.
45:41It won't necessarily come walking on two legs.
45:44That's it, life as we know it.
45:45And in things like Star Trek, all the aliens are just like us,
45:49but green, or we've got an extra eye.
45:50And I had this argument with the great Sir David Attenborough,
45:53and we were saying that we might not recognise life.
45:56He was saying that all life needs is water,
45:58but there's a whole study called astrobiology
46:00trying to work out what sort of life we might find
46:03on these different planets out there.
46:05Yeah.
46:05So it's an exciting time.
46:07You were having an argument with David Attenborough.
46:09National pressure.
46:10Who has an argument with David Attenborough?
46:13I've got beef with it.
46:15You've got beef with it.
46:16You've got beef with it.
46:16I know you've got James.
46:18That's about all we've got time for, Faye,
46:19but I could go on listening to you all night
46:21because I've enjoyed it so much.
46:22But will you join me in saying thank you
46:23to all my guests, ladies and gentlemen?
46:25Thank you all for being here.
46:27I'm afraid we're not on next week
46:30because ITV's showing the rugby,
46:31but I'll be hosting the Oscars coverage on ITV next Sunday,
46:34and this show will be back the week after.
46:36But now, with the great divide
46:37from the upcoming album of the same name,
46:39here he is, Mr. Noah Khan.
46:44CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
46:50I can't recall the last time that we talked
46:56About anything but looking out for cops
47:02We got cigarette burned in the same side of our hands
47:07We ain't friends, we're just morons
47:10Who broke skin in the same spot
47:15You know I think about you all the time
47:21My deep misunderstanding of your life
47:27How bad it must have been for you back then
47:33How hard it was to keep it all inside
47:38I hope you settle down
47:41I hope you'll marry rich
47:45I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
47:51Like murderers and ghosts and cancer on your skin
47:57They're not your soul
47:59And what he might do with it
48:07You hitched yourself across the great divide
48:12You drove a mystery along the twin-state line
48:18I heard nothing but the bass and every ballad that you'd play
48:25While you swore to God that's single in your mind
48:31The world is scared of hesitating things
48:36Where they overshoot the birds you cannot see
48:43I'm finally aware of how shitty and unfair was to stare at that everything's fine
48:55I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
48:58I hope you'll settle down
48:58I hope you'll marry rich
49:00I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
49:07I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
49:36I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
49:37Like murderers and ghosts and cancer on your skin
49:41And not your soul
49:45And believe I do it
49:47I hope you're scared of all the ordinary shit
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