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00:00:15I really don't know if you're ready for this one. You ready?
00:00:21I'm 16.
00:00:22Yeah.
00:00:26There you have it.
00:00:30You might want to think about that one for a second.
00:00:32Oh, my gosh.
00:00:35Yes, you might want to think about that one.
00:00:36He looks so young.
00:00:40What?
00:00:41Does it affect you?
00:00:47It's very shocking.
00:00:50I literally thought you were, like, oldest, like, 47 or something.
00:00:56Yeah.
00:00:57Wow.
00:00:58Does it scare you?
00:01:02I feel like, if I'm being really honest, like, maybe I was meant to come here to meet someone
00:01:10like you.
00:01:12I honestly haven't felt like this with anyone before.
00:01:16I love that.
00:01:17Can I just kiss you?
00:01:19Yes, baby.
00:01:24You're so handsome.
00:01:26You're beautiful.
00:01:31Damn.
00:01:32Yeah, it's better.
00:01:33Well, how do you feel now knowing each other's ages?
00:01:36Yes.
00:01:36Yes.
00:01:37I'm shocked, but it doesn't mean anything.
00:01:41It's even more, it shows what I've always thought.
00:01:44You know what I mean?
00:01:46Like, you are a dope human being to me.
00:01:49You know?
00:01:50I'm going to be in your life.
00:01:51That's for sure.
00:01:51I know that.
00:01:53You're so beautiful.
00:01:53Let me get on.
00:01:55Come on, this is my baby.
00:01:57Mm-hmm.
00:01:58It doesn't.
00:01:59Mm-hmm.
00:02:03Mm-hmm.
00:02:04Mm-hmm.
00:02:05Mm-hmm.
00:02:06Mm-hmm.
00:02:06You're going to show them where that real connection is?
00:02:07Mm-hmm.
00:02:08All right.
00:02:10Come on.
00:02:10I want to fall with you.
00:02:1727, wow.
00:02:20A lot of different thoughts.
00:02:22The touch of your body.
00:02:26And all my senses ignite.
00:02:28I've been excited about a relationship in a while.
00:02:31I've been excited about getting to know someone like this in a while.
00:02:34It's nice.
00:02:35It's really nice.
00:02:38I was very worried about telling her my age.
00:02:41And I was ready for her to say, hey, that don't work for me.
00:02:45And if it didn't, I understood that.
00:02:48I'm sure her family and my family are going to be like, what the hell is going on?
00:02:52But I don't care what no one thinks.
00:02:54Like, we have a connection.
00:02:55So it is what it is.
00:02:57Connection is connection.
00:02:58Period.
00:02:59I think you may be the one, but I haven't told you yet.
00:03:05I am falling in love with him.
00:03:11That's just so scary to say.
00:03:14He's 60.
00:03:17Oh, my gosh.
00:03:19I think it's like 30, 40, 50.
00:03:22No.
00:03:2440, 50, 60.
00:03:26Yeah, 33.
00:03:27He's 33 years older than me.
00:03:30Oh.
00:03:35Oh, my Lanta.
00:03:37Wow.
00:03:38Jorge's literally the same age as my parents.
00:03:43Oh, my gosh.
00:03:48When I explain this to my family, they won't understand.
00:03:52But I think over time, as they see how serious I am about him and how well he treats me,
00:03:59they'll grow to love him.
00:04:06I think I might be the one, I think I might be the one, I think I might be the
00:04:11one on the top
00:04:12to keep you closer.
00:04:14I want to fall with you.
00:04:26Okay.
00:04:27You guys are in for a real treat.
00:04:29First game ever.
00:04:32Oh, my God.
00:04:33Okay, okay, okay.
00:04:34First game, we're going to figure this out.
00:04:35Okay, I'm good.
00:04:36I'm good for it.
00:04:39Bro.
00:04:40You got it.
00:04:40You got it.
00:04:41I'm not good for it.
00:04:42Okay.
00:04:43Back up a little bit.
00:04:45Oh, my God.
00:04:52The more time that I'm spending with Derek, I just know that this is who I want to spend
00:04:57my time with here.
00:04:58We have similar interests.
00:04:59We have similar life goals.
00:05:01And I mean, he's like a model.
00:05:04He's gorgeous.
00:05:05There's no question about that.
00:05:07He is the total package from what I've seen so far.
00:05:15With Pfeiffer, the connection's been so genuine and authentic.
00:05:20So I feel now Pfeiffer needs to know about my kids because I see the potential.
00:05:24So she needs to know the most important part of my life now because we would actually be
00:05:28merging it together.
00:05:31I'm so happy that you picked me to be your devil's partner ever today.
00:05:35Yeah.
00:05:35I feel like I've been having a good time with you.
00:05:38We've been having a good time.
00:05:38We have a good connection.
00:05:39I agree.
00:05:40And I did want to talk to you because we haven't really talked about, like, my personal life
00:05:44up to this point.
00:05:46Just been getting to know you.
00:05:47So I have two boys.
00:05:48Okay.
00:05:50So I'm on daddy mode.
00:05:52Okay.
00:05:52You know, a lot.
00:05:53Like, that's extremely important to me.
00:05:56So obviously dating me, that's a part of it.
00:05:59You know, if you're willing to accept that.
00:06:01Do you want to have more kids?
00:06:03Absolutely.
00:06:04Because that's big for me.
00:06:04Like, I know I want kids.
00:06:06No, completely.
00:06:07Okay.
00:06:08Because that was the one thing I was like, it is a deal breaker.
00:06:10Like, I, like, want kids.
00:06:12Yeah.
00:06:12100%.
00:06:13Absolutely.
00:06:13Um, but yeah, I mean, I think that's, I think that's great.
00:06:16Yeah.
00:06:16I, like, don't see any reason why that would be an issue.
00:06:19It's amazing.
00:06:21No, I think that's great.
00:06:22I thought that Derek was probably in his mid-30s before finding out that he had children.
00:06:27Now, I don't know.
00:06:28He could still be in his mid-30s.
00:06:30People can have kids early when they're young.
00:06:32People can have kids late.
00:06:33I don't care.
00:06:34At the end of the day, what matters is that we have this connection.
00:06:37And every time I see him, I mean, it just gets better.
00:06:40How is that?
00:06:40Like, like, I guess, being a parent.
00:06:45It definitely changes you.
00:06:46Right, I'm sure.
00:06:47And everyone, like, says that.
00:06:49But until you have it, like, so when you don't have them, it's like, damn, I miss my kids.
00:06:55My parents got divorced when I was, like, a baby, like, very young.
00:06:59And she was, like, very career-focused, which is, like, totally fine.
00:07:03Right.
00:07:04But I grew up with just my dad.
00:07:05It was rough at times just because I'm an only child growing up just with my dad.
00:07:10So it's like, yeah, while it does suck, it kind of taught me, like, I know what I value.
00:07:15Yeah.
00:07:15And, like, I know I want to be a mom, so.
00:07:18Absolutely.
00:07:19Yeah.
00:07:19I grew up with my dad, too.
00:07:20Okay.
00:07:21Yeah, so he was on it, like, you know, like, military.
00:07:24It's tough!
00:07:26Strict dads are tough.
00:07:27Yeah.
00:07:28Well, it's similar.
00:07:30Everything that I was nervous about is out, knowing that we're on the same page.
00:07:34And I just think she truly is potentially a life partner.
00:07:38I'm coming home.
00:07:41I'm coming home.
00:07:49Tell me something else.
00:07:50Sweet.
00:07:51Why do you like me?
00:07:53I felt like from the moment we saw each other, we didn't have to say anything.
00:07:57That's so true.
00:07:58And you know what I'm saying, because it is real.
00:08:00It's actually real.
00:08:01I mean, we were smiling at each other from 30 feet away.
00:08:07I like Chris a lot.
00:08:09He has a lot of the qualities that I've been looking for in a partner, in a man, or a
00:08:13husband.
00:08:14I can tell that Chris is younger, but I don't know if he knows how much younger, if that
00:08:20makes sense.
00:08:21He doesn't know my age.
00:08:22Nobody does.
00:08:24I don't even know if he thinks about it, like, how much older I could be than him.
00:08:30That's very scary.
00:08:33What if he does find out when my real age and I'm not as young as he thinks I am?
00:08:36Like, will he still like me?
00:08:38You know?
00:08:41Wait, so who was the last person you massaged?
00:08:45Well, honestly, this is just me getting massages and, like, remembering what feels good and trying
00:08:50to repeat it.
00:08:50I don't know if it feels good yet, but I guess...
00:08:52No, it does.
00:08:53You're doing a good job.
00:08:55I hope she didn't catch that I was trying to avoid that question.
00:09:01Obviously, in that moment, I wasn't about to tell her that a few days before I was in
00:09:06the spa getting Vanessa a massage.
00:09:09Me and Vanessa got a little bit intimate.
00:09:11Yes, we kissed.
00:09:12So, I was like, yo, there's no way she's asking me this right now.
00:09:17Thanks.
00:09:18Okay.
00:09:25I like to climb on things.
00:09:28Ooh, that's crazy.
00:09:31Romeo, Romeo!
00:09:33Where for out there, Romeo?
00:09:34Is this supposed to be the opposite way?
00:09:36Like, I think you're supposed to be up here with your hair.
00:09:38We had that backwards.
00:09:40Yeah.
00:09:40The typical age range that I date are women that are probably around 20, I would say 28
00:09:47to 33, 34.
00:09:49I've dated older, but it's never been something serious.
00:09:54So, now, looking at something that's serious with Vanessa, you know, that's something that
00:10:03is intriguing.
00:10:06All right, that was fine.
00:10:07All right, good job.
00:10:08Okay.
00:10:14Hello, boys.
00:10:15How's it going?
00:10:16Good.
00:10:16How's it going, buddy?
00:10:18I saw you hanging out with Jolene a little bit.
00:10:21What's the vibe for you guys right now, do you think?
00:10:23Oh, man, it just increased.
00:10:25Like, everything's good, and it just, like, amplified.
00:10:29We know what we have, and the connection is just, like, it's good.
00:10:34She's a good vibe.
00:10:35Do you think she's older than you or younger than you?
00:10:37I think she's older than me.
00:10:39High 30s, early 40s, I don't know.
00:10:41But also, you can't tell with her, you know?
00:10:43She's got great skin.
00:10:44Yeah.
00:10:45Girls think I'm just a flirt, and they're like, oh, look at this guy.
00:10:48He's good looking.
00:10:49He's flirty.
00:10:50Oh, he's just an F boy, you know?
00:10:52It's, like, tossed up a flag for some girls in the past.
00:10:56And I don't like that, because the person I think I am in a relationship is loyal, trustworthy.
00:11:02I'm always going to be in my partner's corner, so I'm trying to find an awesome partner to do life
00:11:09with, because that's what it's about.
00:11:11I think about, like, the promised room and all that, and I'm like, I'm the kind of guy who's, like,
00:11:15lover boy.
00:11:16I love what I see.
00:11:17I can totally see that.
00:11:17I want it.
00:11:18Let's go.
00:11:19I can totally see that.
00:11:20And I was ready to go yesterday.
00:11:31I've been ready to go to the promised room with Jolene since the first time I set my eyes on
00:11:36her.
00:11:36Hey.
00:11:37Hi.
00:11:37I'm Jolene.
00:11:38Wes.
00:11:40Which is corny and cheesy, but it's true.
00:11:43I'm a pretty easygoing guy, and I've lived with a woman before that I've dated, so I understand, like, the
00:11:50do's and don'ts.
00:11:51I'll pull this out for you.
00:11:53So sweet.
00:11:56How's your bell?
00:11:57Does that work?
00:11:59Oh, that's how it goes.
00:12:01You don't have a bell on your bike?
00:12:02I was doing it wrong.
00:12:03Oh.
00:12:07I think we're totally on the same page with what we want and what we want to do, and I
00:12:11just want to spend more time with her.
00:12:12That's kind of what makes me feel good, and that's where I want to be.
00:12:22I came here to find love in an ageless environment, mostly to get rid of the parameters I put around
00:12:31dating and to focus on getting to know the person.
00:12:35But it does kind of mess with me.
00:12:37When I make a commitment, I want to make sure that it feels right, and the next phase for Wes
00:12:43and I would mean that we would have to live together, wake up together.
00:12:48So there's a lot of things for me to think about.
00:13:06Looking beautiful.
00:13:08Oh, my goodness.
00:13:14Thanks for joining me.
00:13:16Yeah, thanks for inviting me.
00:13:20I kind of think it's undeniable, the connection we had in the beginning, like pretty much right when I sat
00:13:25down with you and looked at you.
00:13:27I kind of wanted to say that I was just so dead set on you from the beginning.
00:13:31I was just like so into your vibe and everything and how you look and all of that, how you
00:13:37carry yourself, that I didn't really see any of the girls as an option.
00:13:42I think you're such a young spiritual heart and soul that I want to continue this journey with you.
00:13:49I definitely want to let you know that I care a lot about you, that I want to...
00:13:54I care about you, too.
00:13:55Yeah.
00:13:57I just feel like our time together has been so good, and it's only getting better, and it can only
00:14:02be so great moving forward.
00:14:05So I was wondering if you wanted to, like, accept the promise and, you know, continue on with me in
00:14:12this journey.
00:14:21I think that our connection was really...
00:14:23It is really strong, but...
00:14:30No, I'm not ready to, like, make the commitment of moving in and living together right now.
00:14:41I think that you're much younger than me, and that shouldn't matter, but I think that you're much younger than
00:14:46me and that maybe you have some growing to do for us to, like, work on, like, taking that next
00:14:53step in a relationship.
00:14:57Moving in together?
00:14:59Do I have a chance to persuade you right now, or is that your decision?
00:15:03What's your persuasion?
00:15:06I think that the time we spent together is just so easy and it flows...
00:15:12Yeah.
00:15:12...that I felt moving in with each other would just continue that, so...
00:15:16I agree.
00:15:16It wouldn't have to be serious.
00:15:18Well, it is serious, though.
00:15:20See, that's...
00:15:20That's what I mean.
00:15:22Like, as far as, you know, maybe growing and understanding that that next step is not just for fun, you
00:15:33know?
00:15:33Um, okay, I'll put this back down, then.
00:15:36You have pieces of you that are so mature, but I just think that we shouldn't make that commitment right
00:15:44now.
00:15:46I am mature.
00:15:47I mean, I am, you know, serious.
00:15:49How old are you?
00:15:52I'm 30.
00:15:54Oh.
00:15:55So, I knew you...
00:15:56I mean, you're...
00:15:56You might think that I was, like, 25 or something.
00:15:59Yeah, exactly.
00:15:59I know, I get that.
00:16:01But that's...
00:16:02As I said before, I'm a little older than you thought.
00:16:04A little.
00:16:07Yeah.
00:16:08Okay, so are you gonna tell me how old you are?
00:16:11Are you gonna keep that a secret?
00:16:12Oh, yeah.
00:16:13So I'm 48.
00:16:16Did you guess that?
00:16:18How would I...
00:16:19I never...
00:16:22I can't really believe that, either.
00:16:27I think you say 48, but I...
00:16:30I barely see 38, you know?
00:16:32It's, like, insane.
00:16:34What?
00:16:35Yeah.
00:16:35No.
00:16:36It's okay.
00:16:37Oh, come here.
00:16:40Thanks for meeting me here.
00:16:42I'm glad you didn't just say, like, no, you didn't want to do it.
00:16:44So...
00:16:45Oh, no.
00:16:45Of course.
00:16:46Of course I wanted to.
00:16:47Appreciate it.
00:17:03It's disappointing to hear her say she's looking for a long-term partner and to see where I'm
00:17:10at right now with a rejection, I, like, made myself really vulnerable to this, and I feel
00:17:18like she just didn't take me seriously enough and broke up with me before we even started.
00:17:24Something I learned from this, the age is a thing, but it's not everything for me.
00:17:33In making the decision not to move forward, I just feel bad that, you know, I'm letting
00:17:39him down.
00:17:40But I think he has to think of the bigger picture.
00:17:44I'm so much older than him.
00:17:45I've been married, divorced, I have two kids, and I know that marriage isn't always going
00:17:52to be fun.
00:17:55I'm looking for someone that isn't only just trying to have, like, good times.
00:18:02I want someone in it for the long haul.
00:18:04And ultimately, I think age can be a parameter that you let go of if there are life experiences
00:18:11that both people have gone through that kind of complement each other.
00:18:23It's definitely a dent in the armor, but as we learned, you know, she's 18 years older
00:18:29than me, so she has lived a lot more life than I have.
00:18:39It is a shocker.
00:18:41It is crazy.
00:18:45But hey, what am I going to do about it, you know?
00:18:48Can't be wild or rearrange.
00:18:52We cannot do the thing.
00:18:55You won't ever change.
00:18:59No.
00:19:06So in your case, how's the connection?
00:19:08With Fiverr?
00:19:09Yeah.
00:19:09It's good.
00:19:10Like, I trust it.
00:19:11You know what I mean?
00:19:11I think it's great.
00:19:13Like, I've opened up about things that are dear to me that I wouldn't share with someone
00:19:18that I'm just, you know, dating or I'm just hanging out with.
00:19:22Like, these are things that are dear to me.
00:19:24This is who I am as a person.
00:19:26If you can accept those things, then we can continue forward.
00:19:29Getting into the promise room, like, you want to make sure, before you even get there,
00:19:33I've laid it on the line.
00:19:35You know what I mean?
00:19:35You don't want to go in there and, like, say, hey, let's go live together.
00:19:39But you really don't even know who I truly am.
00:19:42You know what I mean?
00:19:42So you feel like you've laid it on the line completely already?
00:19:44Yeah, like who I am and, you know what I mean, my family and my boys.
00:19:48Nice.
00:19:48Like, that's the closest thing to me.
00:19:50100%.
00:19:50Yeah.
00:19:51So you like Leah?
00:19:52I do like Leah.
00:19:53You feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:19:55That's where I'm at.
00:19:56Do I feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:19:58Yeah.
00:20:00I feel like I am, but why am I being so hesitant?
00:20:03That's what's scaring me, right?
00:20:05If you go through that process, right, age is disclosed, all of that, you move in with somebody,
00:20:10then damn, you got something.
00:20:11You can look at it like, okay, it's kind of like we've been dating for, like, a year.
00:20:13A thousand percent.
00:20:15If we made it through the soul process, you know what I mean?
00:20:18I'm very proud of myself for allowing myself to be vulnerable to someone else.
00:20:24Because my parents' relationship definitely has had a lasting effect on me.
00:20:29They actually split when my mom was eight months pregnant with me.
00:20:34Essentially, the only room we've been in together is a courtroom.
00:20:37I would say I have the most amazing relationship with my mom now.
00:20:42Um, you know, and that's been great.
00:20:45With that being said, for me...
00:20:59Give me a second.
00:21:02I think that I probably haven't been as open, you know, that was how I dealt with disappointment
00:21:07was to close it off.
00:21:12So it was like, I have to open myself up, you know, if I truly want to have a partner
00:21:18that truly understands all of me.
00:21:22That's what you want to get to in a relationship, because you don't ever want to feel like you're
00:21:25putting on, you know what I mean?
00:21:26Like, a thousand percent.
00:21:35So who do you talk to so far?
00:21:36Um, so we went on a group date, and I hung out with, like, Chris a little bit.
00:21:41We had fun, but I didn't feel like it was something I could keep going for a longevity.
00:21:48So how about you?
00:21:49What makes this timing now, like, right for you?
00:21:52Um, like, my last serious relationship was three years ago.
00:21:56And the last year, realistically, it's just been, I was like, you know what, like, kind
00:22:01of focus on, like, myself and my career.
00:22:04It's kind of hard to, like, focus on, you know, a lot of things at the same time.
00:22:07So I've kind of put dating on the back burner a little bit.
00:22:10Yeah, I get it.
00:22:11What about you?
00:22:12Um, yeah, so I have been single for four years, actually.
00:22:15Yeah, so I just kind of went, I kept having, like, toxic relationships.
00:22:21Really?
00:22:21You know, and, like, the last one was, like, super toxic.
00:22:23I was actually engaged.
00:22:26Yeah, and it didn't work out.
00:22:28And so I ended up, um, like, I really wanted to, like, explore and be, like, why am I picking
00:22:34people that are not healthy for me?
00:22:36So did you, wait, so you never got married?
00:22:38No, I've never been married.
00:22:39Have you been married?
00:22:40No, I've not.
00:22:40No, I haven't been married.
00:22:41So, yeah, so never married, no kids, right?
00:22:43Um, well, I have one kid.
00:22:45Okay.
00:22:46I was 18 years old, and I was very young, and, you know, he wanted to go party.
00:22:52And I was like, I'm at home with a baby.
00:22:55That sounds about right.
00:22:55Like, that's not going to work out, you know?
00:22:57This is the guy you were engaged to.
00:22:59So I've been engaged twice.
00:23:00Okay.
00:23:00So that was the other one.
00:23:02Well, actually, no, I've been engaged a few times.
00:23:05I've been engaged.
00:23:05Damn, girl, you're collecting rings like J-Lo.
00:23:08So, actually, I've been engaged four times, to tell you the truth.
00:23:10I have as many rings.
00:23:11Four, whoa.
00:23:12I've had as many rings as LeBron James.
00:23:14I was about to say, that's LeBron.
00:23:15So I'm telling you my small relationship.
00:23:17So not quite Kobe, but you're a LeBron level.
00:23:17No, next one's Kobe.
00:23:19Let me.
00:23:20Go ahead.
00:23:20Let's have a sip.
00:23:21Let's have a sip.
00:23:22Let's have a sip.
00:23:23Let me.
00:23:23Yeah.
00:23:25Cheers.
00:23:25I'm sure you want to share.
00:23:26Okay.
00:23:27Oh.
00:23:28And I'm breaking down these walls.
00:23:36I'm not sure come down.
00:23:44Before I came here, I was feeling a bit closed off to love, and I used to think someone younger
00:23:52wouldn't be able to understand the responsibilities that you have as a single father, but then I
00:23:59met Pfeiffer.
00:24:02When I look at Pfeiffer, I feel at peace, like in a happy state.
00:24:08I just love being around her.
00:24:12I want to take Pfeiffer to the Promise Room because I want to continue our journey.
00:24:16I don't want it to end here.
00:24:19I'm feeling some nerves, knowing that I'm moments away from revealing my age to Pfeiffer.
00:24:26I'm trying not to love you so much.
00:24:30But what's stronger for me is definitely the hope of love.
00:24:38The Promise Room to me means commitment, and it means acceptance.
00:24:43I'm very confident in who Derek is as a person, and so I'm hoping he can accept me for what
00:24:48he knows now, regardless of my younger age.
00:24:52This whole time, truly, I have not thought about his age a single time, and getting to
00:24:58know Derek more has only confirmed that we have a connection.
00:25:02Really, he just gives me space to be myself.
00:25:07I mean, there's like nothing more that you could want, really.
00:25:10Like, I do feel...
00:25:11Oh my God, sorry.
00:25:14Sorry.
00:25:21I've had some bad relationships.
00:25:26And it took a lot for me to, like, accept that and, like, come into my own person.
00:25:37So being around somebody who is so the opposite of that is, like, it's something that I didn't
00:25:45think that I would find so soon.
00:25:50It feels, like, too good to be true.
00:25:52I think.
00:26:05Hi.
00:26:06Hi.
00:26:07How are you?
00:26:08I'm good.
00:26:15A little stressful?
00:26:16Yeah, it's a little bit nerve-wracking, this whole situation.
00:26:20This whole process.
00:26:21Yeah.
00:26:23So much alliance for us.
00:26:25Like, it's been crazy.
00:26:26Yeah, that's true.
00:26:27You know, and, like, literally from the jump, like we said, like, from our speed date, like,
00:26:31it just felt comfortable with us.
00:26:33Like, I love that obviously I was extremely attracted to you.
00:26:38Thanks.
00:26:38You're beautiful.
00:26:40Like, obviously you understand being raised by your dad, me being a father.
00:26:43Right, right.
00:26:44You understand all that.
00:26:45Family being big, clearly it's big to me.
00:26:47And knowing that that's big to you and me being willing to obviously add to the family
00:26:53as well.
00:26:53Whatever differences, challenges, all those things, I feel like we could definitely get
00:26:58through it together.
00:27:00Oh, I totally agree.
00:27:01Yeah.
00:27:02Coming here, I never would have thought that I would have found a connection, a, like,
00:27:07great connection.
00:27:08My past relationships have definitely been rough, I would say.
00:27:14And so being around someone like you is, like, refreshing.
00:27:18Yeah.
00:27:19Um, it's nice to be treated well.
00:27:23Even if it's someone you don't know for very long.
00:27:30And it's, like, it's, I have a really hard time opening up to people just based on, um,
00:27:41my past, you know?
00:27:42But being able to meet you and, like, talk about what we've talked about so easily.
00:27:52Obviously, we haven't known each other for very long.
00:27:56Um, but it feels like I've known you for a long time or longer than I have, which is,
00:28:02I, I don't know.
00:28:02I didn't think that that would happen.
00:28:04Yeah.
00:28:04So it's nice.
00:28:05Yeah.
00:28:06Sorry.
00:28:07Oh, you're good.
00:28:07Um, yeah, I don't know.
00:28:09It's been great.
00:28:09It's been great.
00:28:10And, um, yeah.
00:28:13Anyway.
00:28:15I'm looking forward to the next step.
00:28:17I know.
00:28:18I can't wait.
00:28:18I want to keep going.
00:28:19Yeah, me too.
00:28:20So, obviously.
00:28:21Let's keep going.
00:28:22Let's check out.
00:28:25This is my promise to you.
00:28:27My commitment to obviously continuing down the path that we're on,
00:28:31continuing to get to know and grow with you.
00:28:33I'm loving every part of it so far.
00:28:35I know it's only going to continue to get better.
00:28:37Even with you just opening up like that, like, that just solidifies to me, honestly,
00:28:42what your heart is.
00:28:43It's a heart of gold.
00:28:44It means the world.
00:28:46Absolutely.
00:28:53I really had no hesitations and no doubts at all.
00:28:57There's no one else here that I would ever want to put a ring on.
00:29:01To meet my family.
00:29:02Um, yeah.
00:29:04Of course.
00:29:07Now we're ready to move on.
00:29:08Oh, my God.
00:29:10To the next stage.
00:29:12And so I'll, um, first I'll start with my voice.
00:29:15Right.
00:29:15Um, so Dominic is five and Carter's 15.
00:29:20Okay.
00:29:22And I'm 43.
00:29:24Okay.
00:29:29That's older than I thought, but I don't really, I don't care.
00:29:32I don't.
00:29:33I mean, I've never really thought about it.
00:29:34I haven't either.
00:29:36Okay, good.
00:29:37Um, yeah.
00:29:40I mean, do you have any, do you want to, do you have any guesses?
00:29:43Mid-20s, like, we're all my guesses.
00:29:45Okay.
00:29:46I'm 23.
00:29:4923.
00:29:50Okay.
00:29:51All right.
00:29:52I have no problem with it.
00:29:54I know you.
00:29:55The connections are with you.
00:29:56So, it's shocking because I think more so, like, it's about experiences.
00:30:01Right.
00:30:01And obviously, you've had life experiences, and that supersedes just age for me.
00:30:06So, I'm excited.
00:30:08Me too.
00:30:09Me too.
00:30:12And have a kiss.
00:30:14Yeah, we do.
00:30:32I'm happy.
00:30:33Mm-hmm.
00:30:34You said I'm happy?
00:30:34I'm happy.
00:30:35Oh, my God.
00:30:36I'm blessed.
00:30:38I'm blessed.
00:30:39I'm sweet.
00:30:42I would have never thought that I would connect like this with somebody who is nearly double
00:30:46my age.
00:30:46It's kind of unbelievable how quickly we were able to connect and truly how accepting he
00:30:53is of me, of my age, of my story, of my emotions, of everything.
00:30:56That isn't to say that I'm totally fearless with no anxiety.
00:31:00But at the end of the day, I got to know Derek based on who he is.
00:31:04Like, I got to know Derek, not Derek, the 43-year-old.
00:31:0820 years, when you first say it, it's like, wow, a 20-year age gap.
00:31:12There will obviously be challenges, but that's a part of it.
00:31:14That's a part of the growth.
00:31:16Obviously, we're starting the next phase, but the overall objective is to create a family
00:31:22together, create a home together, and all those things.
00:31:25So I think the next phase will give us, like, a snapshot into what that'll look like, and
00:31:30then we'll go from there.
00:31:31And I just want, just one guy, could see them, could see them exist.
00:31:50I appreciate you holding the umbrella.
00:31:52Yeah, I got you, girl.
00:31:53Yeah.
00:31:54I like that.
00:31:55I like that.
00:31:57So far, my strongest connection has been with Logan.
00:32:00He just seems very caring and supportive and affectionate, and it's really what I like,
00:32:09and it's really what I needed.
00:32:10Yeah, yeah.
00:32:11I want to know that he is somebody that wants to, like, build something together, and,
00:32:18yeah, I could see some potential here.
00:32:20I hope I didn't scare you away with telling you about my history.
00:32:25I was trying not to do the mental math.
00:32:27Okay, yeah.
00:32:28Like, the four rings.
00:32:29Yeah.
00:32:29This was like...
00:32:31Four years, four rings.
00:32:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:33So this is hard.
00:32:34But, yeah, so, I don't know.
00:32:39Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, one of those things where I just, I'm still trying to, I don't
00:32:43know, figure...
00:32:44Yeah, figure it all out, yeah.
00:32:46I don't, I don't think...
00:32:47Are you afraid of, like, outside judgment?
00:32:49Is that something that concerns you?
00:32:51I don't know, I mean, I'm just, what do you think?
00:32:53Like, I don't know, how do you feel about, I mean, because, like, there's obviously a
00:32:58visible age gap, right?
00:33:00Yeah.
00:33:01I mean, I, you know...
00:33:01Geez, thanks!
00:33:02No, I mean...
00:33:04Do you think people are gonna think I'm your mom?
00:33:06No, I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, it's not, you know...
00:33:10Like, what do you feel?
00:33:12Don't act like you haven't thought about it.
00:33:19Yeah, that was a little insulting.
00:33:21Him saying these things are just raising all the red flags.
00:33:25He doesn't know how old I am, I don't know how old he is, but I'm starting to see, you
00:33:30know, some of the immaturity.
00:33:34So I'm definitely in a dilemma when it comes to Vanessa.
00:33:37Like, I like her a lot.
00:33:39I feel a strong connection.
00:33:41She's super energetic.
00:33:43She's friendly.
00:33:44She's so easy to talk to.
00:33:46She has the same interest.
00:33:47But, you know, when people are older or have more life experience, they have things that
00:33:52come with them.
00:33:53There's more than just an age difference.
00:34:16I'm taking Chris to go to the promise room with me because I love who he is as a person.
00:34:22He makes me feel seen and he chooses me.
00:34:25I got you, though.
00:34:28I got you, though.
00:34:29I got you, though.
00:34:31And that's what I've been wanting and missing.
00:34:35I came here to find my person.
00:34:37And, you know, I'm hoping he's my person.
00:34:41We're on the same page with almost everything we've discussed, which is kind of rare.
00:34:47You ready to settle down, get married, and have some kids?
00:34:50I'm very ready.
00:34:51I don't want to waste time.
00:34:53I want my happily ever after.
00:34:55You look hot.
00:34:56Ditto.
00:34:57Will you marry me?
00:35:00Bye, babe.
00:35:03It's very important that Chris accepts me for me, including my age.
00:35:09All of it.
00:35:10I just want him to see me for me.
00:35:12I mean, I can't change my birth year, you know?
00:35:16It's a little scary.
00:35:17And, like, what if he does act different when I do tell him my real age?
00:35:22I'm afraid of that.
00:35:27Looking back at the beginning of this process and my relationship with Vanessa,
00:35:31I am so happy to have had that experience.
00:35:34I feel like if I didn't have that moment with Vanessa,
00:35:36I wouldn't have understood how important my relationship with Leah is.
00:35:41I want her to know my family, my brother, my dog, all these things.
00:35:48And that's something that I've never felt before.
00:35:50I'm nervous.
00:35:51I'm super nervous for this.
00:35:52There's no question about it.
00:35:53I've waited all this time.
00:36:07You look beautiful.
00:36:12You look amazing.
00:36:14I do.
00:36:16You're beautiful.
00:36:18Thank you, baby.
00:36:23I'm so happy you were here.
00:36:25Me too.
00:36:27You are genuine, kind, empathetic, consistent, and you're fun to be around.
00:36:34And that's all the qualities that I'm looking for in my future partner.
00:36:41Don't make me cry.
00:36:42I'm sorry, babe.
00:36:44I know.
00:36:45In general, I struggle with sharing and being emotional because I know that it leads to connections,
00:36:50and connections leads to hurt.
00:36:52Yes.
00:36:52But, you know, it's led me here.
00:36:55It's led me to sit in front of somebody that I could see myself building a long-term connection with,
00:37:01and I can't wait to get to know more.
00:37:03I'm so excited.
00:37:05Oh, my God.
00:37:12Okay, let's see.
00:37:15I commit to you, babe.
00:37:17I choose you.
00:37:19And I see you.
00:37:21And I want to be with you.
00:37:23That's beautiful.
00:37:25Look at this cute little ring.
00:37:26Is this going to fit?
00:37:27Yes, it is.
00:37:29All right.
00:37:29This is cool, huh?
00:37:32The rings do look pretty cool.
00:37:35It matches your...
00:37:36I know.
00:37:38Who would have thought?
00:37:40Ooh, are you nervous?
00:37:42A little bit.
00:37:44Because you know I'm going to ask you your age.
00:37:47Mine first?
00:37:48Yeah.
00:37:50You have to go first.
00:37:54Smile?
00:37:55Uh-huh.
00:37:57Okay.
00:37:58I am 26 years old.
00:38:01I knew it.
00:38:04I've never dated a 26-year-old.
00:38:07You were tripping me out.
00:38:09When can I ask you?
00:38:10Can I ask you now?
00:38:11Okay.
00:38:16What if I said I was 41?
00:38:20No.
00:38:22Are you really?
00:38:24I am.
00:38:25Wow.
00:38:27I'm shocked.
00:38:28I knew.
00:38:29I figured.
00:38:29I knew you thought I was at least mid-30s.
00:38:31Yeah.
00:38:32I was going to say 36 maximum.
00:38:33And then like, yeah.
00:38:34And then like, I...
00:38:35I thought, okay, at first I thought 30, 31, 32.
00:38:38And then I started talking.
00:38:39And I was like, okay, she's a decade older.
00:38:4036.
00:38:41I was not going to say older than that.
00:38:44So you're happy?
00:38:46I'm happy.
00:38:47Me too.
00:38:47I'm a little bit nervous, but it's a good nervous.
00:38:50I've never been able to open up to somebody as much as I have with you.
00:38:54Agreed.
00:38:55No matter what, let's just commit to being 100% ourselves throughout this next process.
00:39:01I've never lived with anybody.
00:39:03You've never lived with anybody.
00:39:04This is going to be a journey.
00:39:06It is.
00:39:06A good journey.
00:39:07I'm excited for this.
00:39:09Yeah.
00:39:09I mean, it's going to be a good journey.
00:39:13You ready?
00:39:13Mm-hmm.
00:39:15Let's do it then.
00:39:17Let's do it then.
00:39:18Give me a kiss.
00:39:22Don't kiss me on my forehead.
00:39:24Me too.
00:39:34I knew there was an age gap.
00:39:36I didn't think it was going to be that big.
00:39:3715 years, bigger than I expected.
00:39:39But I am so excited to get to know more about Liam.
00:39:46It was nerve-wracking for me to tell Chris my real age.
00:39:49I didn't know how he'd react.
00:39:50There was definitely a fear of him being like, oh, no, you're too old for me.
00:39:56I would be lying to say that there's no hesitation about moving in with each other.
00:40:00These next few weeks will determine the rest of my life, possibly.
00:40:05Oh, I never felt so hard.
00:40:11Maybe it's definitely close.
00:40:14Maybe it's you and I.
00:40:25Our time here is, like, coming to an end soon.
00:40:29Right.
00:40:29And I feel like we don't really have any clarification, like, where we stand.
00:40:34Yeah.
00:40:34So that's what I was hoping to talk about today.
00:40:37Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:37And I want to get some things off my chest as well.
00:40:41Okay, good.
00:40:42Good.
00:40:43That's what I was hoping.
00:40:44Vanessa is definitely the strongest connection that I've made.
00:40:45But when I brought up the age the other day, you know, obviously I messed up.
00:40:49I shouldn't have said that.
00:40:50We're here on this retreat.
00:40:51Not to worry about that.
00:40:53I remember saying, you know, we'll talk again.
00:40:55And we kind of didn't.
00:40:57And that's when I kind of had this, you know, realization that I need to actually try with
00:41:04Vanessa.
00:41:05And she's somebody that I really care about.
00:41:08You know, sometimes you either run or you stay.
00:41:11And that's when I told myself, I want to stay.
00:41:14After we had that talk, like, I feel like I kind of shot myself in the fire.
00:41:19Yeah.
00:41:20And so from that point forward, it's like, well, she's still into me.
00:41:23Is she not?
00:41:24Like, do you still feel this?
00:41:25Do you want to talk to other people?
00:41:26Which is fine if you do.
00:41:28Yeah.
00:41:28But, like, I'm still, like, trying to get a read.
00:41:30Yeah.
00:41:31It's been very difficult for me.
00:41:32Yeah.
00:41:32I just feel like, yeah, you've been my strongest connection here.
00:41:36You know what I mean?
00:41:38But, like, do you feel confident enough to, like, make this grow?
00:41:42Is this age thing going to really bother you, you know?
00:41:45And, like, how do we know unless we try?
00:41:48Right.
00:41:48But, like, do you want to try?
00:41:50Or do you feel is there still something holding you back, you know?
00:41:53Yeah.
00:41:54I mean, at this point, I think I was in my head about it, obviously.
00:41:57But to be honest, I don't think there's anything holding me back from at least making an attempt.
00:42:02Yeah.
00:42:02So I feel like I want to kind of take a step back and give you, like, kind of like
00:42:10the real me, right?
00:42:11He's taking accountability for his actions, and that really means a lot.
00:42:15And now it's, like, moving forward, I need to see if actions are going to line up with words.
00:42:20As far as the promise room, I feel like I need him to be that person to make that decision.
00:42:27So it lies in his hands.
00:42:31I'm going to put in the effort to man up and, you know, be the person that I feel I
00:42:38am.
00:42:38And that's with Vanessa.
00:42:50When I look at Vanessa, I feel excitement.
00:42:54There's a part of me that just wants to know what else is there to this woman that I'm already
00:42:59so attracted to, so intrigued by.
00:43:03Vanessa and I have had a rocky road, but she makes me want to commit, and that's a good sign.
00:43:11Now we're going to reveal our ages.
00:43:17It'll be interesting.
00:43:25I came here without putting parameters on age to try to find love in an ageless environment.
00:43:31And I want someone to share holidays with and milestones with.
00:43:36I'm tired of being the only one in my family that's single.
00:43:39My sisters are married.
00:43:41My daughter's married.
00:43:42I mean, I'm just kind of the black sheep.
00:43:44I don't want to go into the last years of my life alone.
00:43:54I know age is a concern for Logan, so I'm a little worried Logan might see me differently when he
00:44:00knows my age.
00:44:02I just don't know what to expect right now.
00:44:04I won't have to wait for some days.
00:44:16Hi.
00:44:16Hey, gorgeous.
00:44:18How are you?
00:44:19Good.
00:44:20Good.
00:44:20Have a seat.
00:44:22You look nice.
00:44:23You look hotter and hotter every single day.
00:44:28How are you feeling?
00:44:29Good.
00:44:30You look absolutely stunning.
00:44:33Dating for me, there's been some ups and downs, obviously, as you know, and I chose to go here, get
00:44:43on this retreat because I wanted to just leave the outside world to come here and find that special connection.
00:44:51Um, and I think I was so concerned with finding, finding this connection, right, finding the right one.
00:45:00You know, I didn't take the time to appreciate I was right in front of me.
00:45:04And that's this Midwestern girl, this amazing woman.
00:45:09And that's why I'm here, and that's why I invited you here.
00:45:15I appreciate that.
00:45:18I mentioned the other day, like, I lost my mom, like, less than a year ago, and I was just
00:45:22in a really dark place.
00:45:23And I realized, like, it's time for me to settle down and find my person, you know, watching my dad
00:45:30be there for my mom, like, through the end.
00:45:32Like, it really meant a lot, and that's, like, something that I wanted to find.
00:45:36So I came here trying to find the right thing and to find my light at the end of the
00:45:42tunnel.
00:45:42You know, we hit a rocky road, and my instinct when I hit a rocky road is to run.
00:45:50But something told me to, like, talk to you about it.
00:45:55Don't run away from it.
00:45:57And I'm glad that we're here.
00:45:58I'm glad that we made it.
00:46:00And, you know, sometimes I think the hard things can make you stronger in the long run.
00:46:05And I don't want to run away.
00:46:09I'm good.
00:46:19I had a death, all right.
00:46:20I love it.
00:46:21I was like, hey, you know.
00:46:22I love it.
00:46:23You kissed me so good.
00:46:25It knocked my bracelet off.
00:46:27Okay.
00:46:31Well, here's this for you.
00:46:33Yeah.
00:46:34I got this to symbolize my commitment to you moving forward, to continue this journey and this relationship with you
00:46:46and only you and nobody else.
00:46:48I want that, too.
00:46:51Okay.
00:46:52And I'm giving you this because I promise not to run away, okay?
00:46:57And I promise to talk to you through all the bumps.
00:47:06Okay.
00:47:07Oh, God.
00:47:09I forgot about this part.
00:47:11All right.
00:47:12Here's the hard part.
00:47:14Okay.
00:47:15Last thing.
00:47:17Okay.
00:47:20I am 29 years old.
00:47:29I was worried.
00:47:31That's good for me.
00:47:32Yeah.
00:47:33So I am 49.
00:47:43I was going to guess 29.
00:47:45Honestly.
00:47:46What did you think I was 49?
00:47:47No.
00:47:48How old did you think I was?
00:47:49I was going to say maybe eight years older than me.
00:47:53I was thinking mid to late 30s.
00:47:54Okay.
00:47:55That's what I was thinking.
00:47:55So now, is it going to bother you?
00:47:59Do you still want to try?
00:48:03Hell yes.
00:48:04Okay.
00:48:05Of course.
00:48:05Come on now.
00:48:06I'm excited.
00:48:07Ready?
00:48:07Yes.
00:48:08All right.
00:48:08Let's do it.
00:48:10And you took me, took me where I never knew you saved me.
00:48:17If I knew Logan was 29, let's say I'm on a dating app.
00:48:20I'd say 29 now, like without even like looking at the rest of his stuff.
00:48:24But I came here with an open mind and I feel like through all the ups and downs, we're in
00:48:31a really good place now.
00:48:32I was really hesitant about, am I going to find a connection?
00:48:36Is it going to be the right connection?
00:48:38But, you know, at the end of the day, it's Vanessa.
00:48:42I was very nervous to share my age because it was something that he was nervous about,
00:48:47but he's willing to push through.
00:48:49Time will tell, like where this goes.
00:48:52I have strong feelings for her and I, you know, I think that it's up to me to prove that,
00:48:57you know, I'm somebody that can be in it for the long haul.
00:48:59And I'm looking forward to continuing to build this connection, but, you know, you go from
00:49:03the retreat out into the real world to now living together.
00:49:07I mean, you know, of course I'm nervous, but I'm excited, nervous, excited.
00:49:15When you turn on a good promise, it's your life.
00:49:27Upon arriving at this retreat, a group of singles of all ages came looking for love without
00:49:33knowing anyone's age.
00:49:35They dated, connected, and got to know each other without the usual judgments age can
00:49:40bring.
00:49:40Some found love within their age group.
00:49:43The big reveal, 46.
00:49:45Stop it.
00:49:4747.
00:49:49I'm 26.
00:49:51Really?
00:49:52Yeah.
00:49:52I'm 23.
00:49:54Oh.
00:49:5640...
00:49:5640?
00:49:574.
00:49:5844?
00:49:58Yeah.
00:49:59Oh, wow.
00:50:00I am 48 years old.
00:50:02Okay.
00:50:02Yeah.
00:50:03All right.
00:50:03While others were shocked by the age difference.
00:50:06I'm 60.
00:50:07I'm 60.
00:50:12I'm 60.
00:50:14Now, six of those couples, with age differences ranging from 15 years apart to as much as 33
00:50:20years apart, move forward in the next phase of this journey.
00:50:23This is happening to me, yeah.
00:50:28They'll live together, share their daily lives, and meet each other's closest friends and families,
00:50:34putting their relationships to the real-world test.
00:50:37I never thought I could love this much.
00:50:42At the end of this experience, they will face a big decision that could change their lives
00:50:48forever.
00:50:49They'll take the journey, the top of this mountain, to face the person they've built something
00:50:53with, and decide, is this just the end of an experiment, or the beginning of something
00:50:59life-changing?
00:51:04Will age and all that comes with it be the thing that separates them, or the thing they
00:51:09overcome?
00:51:09Can the love they found survive what's coming next?
00:51:20Oh, okay.
00:51:22I'll take this one.
00:51:23Wow.
00:51:25This is beautiful.
00:51:26This is nice.
00:51:27I just can't believe I'm here with Derek.
00:51:30Cheers.
00:51:31Cheers.
00:51:31We really have gotten along great so far, and it's almost been unnervingly easy, but
00:51:38this really is the next phase in this experience, and the real world is about to smack us in
00:51:45the face.
00:51:45I'm definitely worried about the stigmas and the judgments that will come.
00:51:49I mean, Derek is nearly twice my age, which, saying that out loud, it feels crazy.
00:51:54I would be lying if I said, like, thoughts haven't crossed my mind.
00:51:58Like, what would my family think?
00:51:59What will my friends think?
00:52:00We made it.
00:52:01We did.
00:52:02But that doesn't dissuade me from continuing with Derek.
00:52:05I'm happy to face the judgments because he means so much to me, but it will be challenging.
00:52:13Oh, my God.
00:52:15Oh, my God.
00:52:16Oh, my God.
00:52:17I can't wait to see everybody, but I'm nervous.
00:52:20I still have some reservations over the whole age gap.
00:52:25Staying in the bubble would have been a much more comfortable situation, but that's not reality.
00:52:29Look who it is.
00:52:31Hey.
00:52:32Hey.
00:52:35Hey.
00:52:38I've definitely had a little bit of time now to kind of decompress from Libby telling me her age in
00:52:45the Promise Room.
00:52:46It'll be good for us to get to actually spend, like, a little bit more quality one-on-one time
00:52:51together.
00:52:52To the first three couples, and hopefully we got some friends and girlfriends right behind us.
00:52:58That's right.
00:52:59Cheers for that.
00:53:00Oh.
00:53:01Oh.
00:53:02Oh, my God.
00:53:04Oh, my God.
00:53:04Leah and Chris, I'm a little bit surprised, but they really did have that physical connection, and they seem so
00:53:11deeply involved with each other.
00:53:13I do kind of question, do they have the strength of knowing each other's values and everyday character, because it's
00:53:25been a lot of touching and kissing and less talking.
00:53:30But, you know, that can maybe go a long way, so we'll just have to see there.
00:53:35No!
00:53:37What?
00:53:37We made it.
00:53:39We made it.
00:53:43Last time I saw Vanessa and Logan, they were broken up, and I have heard some comments regarding optics.
00:53:50That one was really out of left field for me, but it was kind of an exciting surprise, and I
00:53:55hope that they're happy ever after and in love forever.
00:53:58I don't know if I see it, though.
00:54:01Whoa!
00:54:03You guys already started?
00:54:04Hey, how you doing?
00:54:06Jorge and Vanell are so cute.
00:54:08I wasn't really sure who Vanell was going to pick, so that was good to see her where she's at.
00:54:15I think that they're a great match.
00:54:17I just see their energy together.
00:54:19Like, they're so affectionate.
00:54:21I feel like a lot of the other couples here are more affectionate than Logan and I are.
00:54:27Tell us about your journey.
00:54:28I don't really know.
00:54:29I was going to say, like, what's next?
00:54:30Okay, you guys, I love listening to him talk, so do it.
00:54:33Tell him our journey.
00:54:33Yeah, he's really good.
00:54:34All right, so we had no communication.
00:54:37Like, it just, it just...
00:54:38It's natural.
00:54:38It was what we're saying.
00:54:39We had nothing.
00:54:39It was out of nowhere.
00:54:40You guys didn't get to meet on the speed day?
00:54:42Nope.
00:54:42Nothing.
00:54:43But immediately the conversation was supernatural.
00:54:45It was like, we didn't have to force anything.
00:54:47I wish I could say there's a lot more to it, but there's not.
00:54:49Yeah.
00:54:50Yeah.
00:54:50Today, all day long, like, seeing you guys together made me realize, like, how wonderful
00:54:55you are together, because, like, I hung out with him.
00:54:57Like, we had a great time.
00:54:59Wait, why didn't you guys work out then?
00:55:01They're not getting all serious, huh?
00:55:03You had another connection.
00:55:04Yes, and then you went on a date.
00:55:06Okay.
00:55:06Well, it was a group activity.
00:55:07Just kidding.
00:55:08It was a group activity.
00:55:08Just kidding.
00:55:09Like, I said, date.
00:55:10It was a group activity.
00:55:11It was a group activity.
00:55:13Okay.
00:55:13Oh, man.
00:55:13We had a beautiful...
00:55:14Hold on.
00:55:15Let me...
00:55:15It was beautiful already?
00:55:18It was.
00:55:18Did you guys kiss or something?
00:55:20Like, dang, what happened on this group date?
00:55:22Did you have...
00:55:23Oh!
00:55:24Yeah.
00:55:26I feel like I may have made a mistake.
00:55:29Part of me was already battling with whether I should share that or not about the kiss that
00:55:33me and Vanessa had prior to me and Leo's relationship.
00:55:36There was some wine involved.
00:55:37Oh, now there's wine?
00:55:38We're getting woozy.
00:55:39I was sober and everything.
00:55:40You know, we're hot.
00:55:41Every day, we did get very woozy.
00:55:42We're hot.
00:55:42And, you know, it was a very simple...
00:55:44Yeah, it was.
00:55:45Simple.
00:55:45It was.
00:55:46Oh, I heard you were sucking face.
00:55:48No, no.
00:55:49There's no tongue.
00:55:50I didn't know that Chris and Vanessa kissed.
00:55:55So, that was interesting to find out today.
00:55:58I just thought he would have told me ahead of time because apparently Logan already knew.
00:56:03Apparently, maybe everyone knew.
00:56:04I have no idea.
00:56:05We got to see what's up now because that's unacceptable, period.
00:56:09I mean, you know, the reality is, like, we're on a...
00:56:11We're at a retreat.
00:56:13We're finding connections.
00:56:13I mean, I didn't find any, so I don't know.
00:56:16I think it was a mistake to not reveal that and talk about that earlier.
00:56:20Did I mess up?
00:56:21I guess, I don't know.
00:56:22I'll find out soon.
00:56:24Okay, so, Fife, as somebody who's in a similar situation, how are you feeling about Derek having kids, the age
00:56:31gap, all the things?
00:56:32Yeah, I don't have experience dating someone who does have children.
00:56:36Same.
00:56:37I mean, I like Derek for all that he is, including his children, and he wouldn't be the person that
00:56:43he is if he didn't have his children.
00:56:45Right.
00:56:45And, like, family and being a dad, like, those are things that are so important to me that it's, like,
00:56:50it only adds to his character.
00:56:52Yeah.
00:56:52Okay, so, how are you feeling?
00:56:54Yeah.
00:56:54About the whole kids thing?
00:56:57Honestly, everything you said, I second that, and when I heard he had kids, I feel like I took him
00:57:02more seriously because, like I said, I'm looking for a guy who's more mature, more established, and to hear that
00:57:09he's, like, uninvolved, good father, like, honestly.
00:57:13Yeah.
00:57:14He's quality.
00:57:15He's high value.
00:57:16Attractive.
00:57:17Yeah.
00:57:17How about you, Andrew?
00:57:19Only one girl that I've ever dated.
00:57:21Some of my daughters.
00:57:22But it didn't, you know, it didn't work out.
00:57:24And ever since then, I've been super protective of them.
00:57:25And so, no one else has ever met my children.
00:57:29I told myself that no one else would unless I knew that that was going to be my person.
00:57:34You've told Libby about your daughters.
00:57:37I lead with it.
00:57:38They're a huge part of my life.
00:57:39So, it's tough.
00:57:40I mean, you know this.
00:57:41When you have kids, it's like, you know, you don't want people coming in and out of their lives.
00:57:45Right.
00:57:45You know?
00:57:46And it's...
00:57:46Libby showed you signs of being that person?
00:57:49I mean, we're going to find out, to be honest.
00:57:51My situation is, I have two children.
00:57:54When did you share with her, your children, your...
00:57:56I haven't.
00:57:57I'm about to...
00:57:58You haven't.
00:57:58And so, you know what?
00:57:59She doesn't know you have kids?
00:58:00No.
00:58:01Wait, I totally didn't even think about the fact, does Hoare have kids?
00:58:06Yeah, he does not have any kids.
00:58:08Yay!
00:58:09I don't think so.
00:58:10I haven't really had.
00:58:12So, you're worried about that?
00:58:13No, I'm not worried about it at all.
00:58:14Because if, in fact, we wouldn't have got here, if that was the fact.
00:58:18If you were, right.
00:58:19Right, right, right.
00:58:19That's right.
00:58:20When I told her my age, she didn't blink.
00:58:22Vanell didn't care about my age, and I was really happy.
00:58:24I'm relieved about that.
00:58:25But something that's weighing on me, something I really want to discuss with her, is my children
00:58:29and their ages, right?
00:58:31So, my kids' age are right around the same age as her.
00:58:34And it's a concern, because I need to see her reaction and how she feels about it.
00:58:38I believe that our connection can withstand it, but we're going to find out.
00:58:41He doesn't want kids outside of marriage.
00:58:44Okay.
00:58:44Perfect.
00:58:45That's perfect.
00:58:46I respect that.
00:58:48Because I'm the same way.
00:58:50Pray for me.
00:58:56Pray for me.
00:58:58Pray for me.
00:59:03Pray for me.
00:59:08You got the demons in my head, going crazy.
00:59:11I can't bear it down.
00:59:14Dancing around me like a looming shadow, waiting to watch me drown.
00:59:20They want you, and you're making waves.
00:59:24Don't care how long it takes.
00:59:28Take me down somewhere, the devil lies.
00:59:32What can you spell me?
00:59:33I know that you'll treat me somewhere, as you pull me down closer to him.
00:59:48Break the wind.
00:59:50Break the wind.
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