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00:06You
00:18Everyone's looking stunning. Thank you. How are we feeling?
00:23Yeah, happy to be out of the woods. Yeah, a big congratulations to all of our new couples
00:30Now it's time to take things to the next level as you'll all move in together
00:35And begin to ask the tough questions is someone willing to move across the country
00:42Is a promise ring enough or do you want more enough big?
00:47And perhaps the biggest question of all
00:50How does age factor in to all of those big life decisions?
00:54But this is also your time to have fun grow closer and really ask yourselves
00:58Do we see a future together?
01:02or
01:03Do you take off those promise rings and leave this experience the same way you entered it alone?
01:10Oh
01:15I'm sure there's one big question in everyone's mind everyone's actual ages
01:24Remember everyone we are 18 years apart, so you're in safe
01:27You know, I think I would love to start with John and Teresa
01:33I knew it
01:35Why don't you two share your ages?
01:39Um, I am proud to be 54
01:41Wow!
01:42Wow!
01:43Let's go!
01:44You wanna go for him?
01:45Yes, Teresa!
01:46You're looking good
01:46Dope
01:47I am 27
01:49Woo!
01:50Woo!
01:52Woo!
01:54Woo!
01:54Woo!
01:54Like, woo!
01:55My friends would be like, what you doing?
01:56I was like, I don't know anymore
01:58We're here though
01:59I think that's not my life
02:01Um, no offense
02:02I thought you were much older
02:04Have you guys done the math?
02:06Yeah, he's half my age
02:0827 years apart
02:10Yeah, 27
02:1027 years apart
02:12Okay
02:12So did that
02:14finding out the age
02:16stir any issues up or do you feel like y'all are good?
02:20So I was definitely shocked when he told me his age
02:23I kind of wish that we could like go back to like not knowing each other's age for a little
02:28bit
02:29Why?
02:29Um, you know, I just worry that like it changes your perception of someone once you know their age
02:34Um, I also think like an older woman with a younger guy is not so accepted socially yet
02:43Um, I think it's getting there
02:45But the bottom line is that we have connected and we just really enjoy each other's company
02:53So, yeah, we're gonna see this out, learn more about each other
02:58And what matters is your guys connections, judgments of the outside world, you know, they're not welcome inside your home
03:04Yeah
03:05All right, Derek and Pfeiffer
03:08All right
03:09Yeah
03:09Am I going first?
03:11Go ahead
03:12I'm 23
03:13I'm 23
03:14Oh, good job
03:15I'm 43
03:16Dang
03:19Yeah, I knew it
03:2020 years
03:2120 years
03:22I thought he was like 30
03:24Derek and I moisturized
03:27How are y'all feeling?
03:28I mean, for me, it
03:30Our, you know, connection
03:31That wasn't gonna change from knowing her age
03:34I was probably just more surprised that she actually has had the experience she's had, you know, at such an
03:40early age
03:40But, I mean, the connection was there, so I wasn't gonna allow age to take away from what we already
03:47started and continue to grow
03:49Yeah, that sums it up
03:50I like Derek for who he is, not for anything surrounding his age
03:54Um, so yeah, I was like, oh, cool, like, good to know, I guess, like, you're pretty much double my
04:00age, but right on
04:01Throw that one in here
04:02That's fine
04:03Yeah, no, that's okay
04:04Hey, you look great, you look fantastic
04:06Um, but yeah, I'm not too concerned
04:08Okay, we love the confidence
04:10Always
04:11All right, Andrew and Libby
04:15I'm 22
04:1838
04:19Oh
04:20Damn
04:21What?
04:22Woo!
04:2416 years apart?
04:26Yeah
04:2616
04:2716
04:28What was the first thing that crossed your mind when you found out Libby's age?
04:32That she was closer to my oldest daughter in age than she was to me
04:37Okay
04:37How old is your oldest daughter?
04:39She's 14
04:3914
04:40Wow
04:41Are you more taken back that he has a 14 year old daughter or that he's close to 40?
04:47Both of those things threw me off a little bit, but it didn't really scare me too bad, I just
04:52was shocked
04:53All right, Chris and Leah
04:55I am 26
04:58All right, guys, you ready?
05:0141
05:02Wow
05:04Oh
05:05Damn, you look good
05:07I gotta start doing better skin care
05:09No, seriously
05:10Oh my god
05:12I'm so sure this whole time that Leah is in her 30s, young 30s, she just has this like buoyant
05:18energy and then she said you're in her 40s and I was like, man, these people in their 40s, like,
05:22they are killing the game
05:24Chris
05:24Oh
05:25What was your first opinion when hearing Leah's age?
05:31I was absolutely shocked
05:33You were shocked
05:34I'm not gonna lie, shocked
05:34To hear the word, the number four first, I was like, okay
05:39Um, I was shocked, but you know, like perception is reality, so at the end of the day, we perceive
05:43each other with no age gap
05:45And we got to know each other that way, now that we have the age gap, I honestly don't feel
05:49like anything's changed, I really don't
05:51And that's a beautiful thing, so I'm excited, very excited for this next step
05:55Better not change
05:57All right, Logan and Vanessa
05:59Go ahead
06:00I'm 49
06:02What?
06:03And I am 29
06:04Dope, okay
06:05Oh
06:06Very excited
06:07I don't know how old I thought he was, but it wasn't that
06:12How are you feeling now?
06:14I mean, I feel okay, how do you feel?
06:17I feel good, I'm excited, I'm excited to learn more about her and have fun
06:21And we had some tough conversations early on, right?
06:23You know, you go into the retreat not worrying about age, and you know, that's something I brought up early,
06:29right?
06:29So, it was kind of a little rough patch, but, um, we had some serious conversations, and I'm looking forward
06:37to having some fun, so
06:37Did you say you brought up age early?
06:40Yeah
06:40You did
06:41He was concerned about it
06:43I was just, you know
06:44But he was being honest
06:45Yeah
06:45I took it the wrong way, and at the end of the day, I feel like he was being honest
06:49about his feelings
06:50Instead of just coming in like, yeah, everything's sunshine and roses, you know?
06:54So, I feel like because we got the hard things out of the way first, now it's time for us
06:59to enjoy and have fun
07:00Yes!
07:01Yes, we made it
07:02All right, Jorge and Vanell, certainly last but not least
07:05Oh man, it's not gonna be least
07:08I'm 27
07:10Yes
07:10All right
07:11So, I'm 35 plus 25, I'm 60
07:14Wow
07:15What?
07:16There's no fucking way
07:17There's no fucking way, dude
07:19Jorge, 60?
07:21Damn, like, I did not see that coming
07:24I didn't even know there were 60-year-olds here
07:26You guys have been surprised
07:27What is that, like a...
07:2833
07:28Dang!
07:29You win!
07:3033
07:31Okay
07:32They win
07:34Vanell, how surprised were you when you hurt his age?
07:37I was shocked because I thought he was, like, in his 40s, but he is fine, so...
07:42Thank you
07:43I'm not mad at it
07:43Thank you, tell him, tell him, tell him
07:46You all found each other and that is the most amazing thing
07:50Right now you're here, you're together, but will you want to leave this experience as a couple?
07:55That's a question you'll have to answer at the commitment ceremony
07:59Oh
08:01Am I afraid of commitment? Maybe
08:03Am I afraid of commitment ceremonies? Yes
08:05You all fell in love without knowing anyone's age
08:09Yeah
08:09So give yourselves a toast and good luck
08:12Enjoy your time together
08:14Woo
08:14Thank you
08:15Thank you
08:17Cheers to Aiden's dating, right?
08:19Woo
08:20All right
08:34Home sweet home
08:36I like that
08:38Yeah
08:38Oh, yay
08:41Super cozy
08:43It was super, super cozy.
08:46It was real.
08:47I think my suitcase is bigger than...
08:50The bed, perhaps.
08:51The bed.
08:51Yeah.
08:52This entire experience has been a bubble,
08:56but then moving in together makes it a little bit more real.
09:02Don't worry, you can borrow my curling iron.
09:05I know you were concerned about that.
09:07Don't put anything on my shelves.
09:09I won't.
09:11Oh, my gosh.
09:12I definitely think it's going to challenge us living together.
09:17Like, are we on the same wavelength?
09:20Like, is she someone that I can see introducing to my kids?
09:23You know, that's a lot to digest,
09:27but every day that I spend with her,
09:29I feel like I'm falling a little bit more for her,
09:32and I do think that she could be my forever person.
09:36Um, so, what's the bedroom situation looking like?
09:42Um, well, it's looking good for me.
09:48Are you bringing a friend?
09:51I guess you could maybe be invited if you act correctly.
09:55Okay.
09:56Yeah.
09:56I think I can do that.
09:57Okay.
09:58I feel like you've done good so far.
10:00I try.
10:01You earned a pass to sleep in the bed and not the couch, I guess, for one night.
10:08One night?
10:09Okay.
10:10I'll take it.
10:11Yeah, say thank you.
10:13You're welcome.
10:14Oh, my gosh.
10:14Aren't I so kind?
10:17I think we're going to be fine.
10:19I'm honestly not that nervous.
10:20I feel like we're both, like, just...
10:22I mean, you're not chill, but I'm chill.
10:24Yeah.
10:25And I'm just very good with the flow.
10:26So I think, like, I'll be able to tolerate this.
10:31Aw.
10:32That's the sweetest thing a guy's ever said to me.
10:35You're welcome.
10:35You're so sweet.
10:37I told you I'm a lover.
10:38Aw.
10:40You're so kind.
10:41I love when you say you tolerate me.
10:43That's very sweet.
10:44I love when you say you tolerate me.
10:49Cheers.
10:50Cheers.
10:51To a new beginning.
10:53To a new beginning, baby.
10:55How do you feel?
10:56I'm glad we're finally here.
10:58Me too.
10:59You know what I mean?
10:59We finally get our own alone time.
11:02Mm-hmm.
11:02It's like we can talk about all the things we want to talk about.
11:04We can have fun.
11:06Because, you know, our connection is dope, but we got to still talk.
11:10Because I know there's some things we were talking about.
11:12You were talking about your sister.
11:14I want to hear about this.
11:15You're the youngest of five.
11:17I'm the youngest of five, yeah.
11:18I have two older brothers and two older sisters.
11:20So what are your brothers going to think?
11:22My brothers?
11:23I don't think they're going to care, actually.
11:25Really?
11:26Yeah.
11:26I don't think they're going to care that much.
11:28It's just like my other middle sister that might be more shocked and might be a little
11:32bit uneasy about it.
11:33But ultimately, I think they're just going to, as long as, like, they know that, like,
11:37you treat me right and stuff, they'll love you.
11:39So, all right.
11:40So you have a kind of an understanding of how your family feels.
11:43Mm-hmm.
11:43Mm-hmm.
11:44What about you?
11:44My family are all, if you like them, then I love them.
11:47Because they know I don't bring, that's not something I, I don't bring anyone around
11:51my family that I'm not serious about.
11:54But now, here's the thing that we haven't talked about.
11:58Okay.
11:59I have children.
12:01And I see your face.
12:03Does that bother you?
12:04What's going on?
12:07Like, I mean, I guess, like, we were in the promise room and stuff, and you brought up
12:12kids and stuff, but then you didn't say that you had kids.
12:15Well, to be honest with you, I didn't think it was the time.
12:17And that day, the most important thing was the age difference.
12:21Because if you can't handle the age difference, I don't, me having children has nothing to
12:24do with anything, I didn't think.
12:25Well, just like you said to me in the promise room when I was bringing up, like, my celibacy
12:30and stuff, and I was just very much a little bit angsty about it and worried, and you were
12:35just basically like, oh, you should have told me this earlier.
12:38Like, there's nothing we can't talk about.
12:39That's how I feel about the kid thing, too, right now.
12:42I'm not afraid to bring up anything to you.
12:44I'm not.
12:45Believe me, I'm not.
12:46I wasn't trying to avoid anything from you, because they're very important to me.
12:51You know what I mean?
12:52And obviously, their ages are closer to your age.
12:56I mean, my daughter's basically the same age, and my son is 23.
13:02My daughter, she will definitely side-eye.
13:05Like, because she's, my daughter's very, very, like your family, very protective of me.
13:09So how are your relationship with your kids' mothers?
13:13Good, cordial.
13:15Cordial.
13:15Now, are we friends, best friends?
13:18No.
13:18What do I mean?
13:19It's, you know...
13:20Maybe they get along.
13:21Yes.
13:21It's very cordial.
13:22So how important is, like, having more kids to you?
13:26Like, would you be okay if you never have more kids?
13:29If I never have more kids, it'd be because I'm never in a serious relationship.
13:33So you do want more kids?
13:37If I'm in a serious relationship, and, like, let's say, for instance, let's say you and
13:41I got, you said, Hori, I don't want kids.
13:44Okay.
13:45Oh, you'd be okay with it?
13:46Because, yeah, because the most important thing to me is the person that I'm with.
13:50So if I come upon someone who I genuinely connect with, I'm going to explore it to the utmost because
13:57I want to find a woman who, those are the last eyes I see before I close mine.
14:02You know?
14:03That is the epitome of a real love, right?
14:07Do you think you can have that with me?
14:09I can have it with you.
14:10I know I can have it with you, babe.
14:13Do you believe it?
14:14I do.
14:17I honestly thought he didn't have kids.
14:20So I was just very surprised by that.
14:23And it's not an issue that he has kids.
14:25Like, I'm totally fine with it.
14:27But I just don't want it to feel like he's, like, keeping things from me.
14:31I feel like he should have known, like, who I am and the type of person that I am, that
14:35it would be okay.
14:43I want to share something with you.
14:45Oh, my God.
14:48This is adorable.
14:51Like a smile.
14:52This is the cutest thing in the world.
14:56Do you feel like when you had him, like, you were ready for children?
15:00Yeah, so I think, honestly, to a certain degree, you can never be completely ready.
15:06Right.
15:06Because every kid's, like, different.
15:08So you're just, like, you got to just roll with the punches, you know?
15:12Because you're trying to balance, like, so much, right?
15:15And so for me, it was, like, whether at that point, like, a relationship, being a father and, like, career.
15:22It was, I just had to understand that, okay, some days you're going to suck at something.
15:28Like, you just, you got to accept it.
15:29Like, it's no way you can beat all three, but just make sure you don't suck at the same thing
15:34all the time in a row.
15:36That's a good point.
15:37That's a great point.
15:38Yeah.
15:39Yeah.
15:39I've never dated anybody who has had children before, and I think being a stepparent or being involved with somebody's
15:46children, you can still have a great impact.
15:48It means a lot to do a good job in that role, but I don't have any experience of my
15:54own, and I haven't been around people who have kids very often.
15:59I want to continue going forward with Derek, and I am committed to him.
16:03So it's like, these are questions and these are challenges that will come up.
16:07I would be lying if I said I wasn't anxious.
16:11So, Nick, how long have you been waiting on this?
16:17Yeah, it's been nice.
16:19Yeah.
16:28I'm doing your pretty ass.
16:30Well, thank you.
16:31You've said that many times.
16:34I'll say it a few more.
16:36I'll take it.
16:49You know, I'm so mad at you.
16:51I never want to be surprised about something you've done, because at the end of the day, like, I came
16:56here with you and not to be or feel alone.
17:00And I was very alone in that moment.
17:05I apologize for everything about the situation.
17:08The fact that I didn't bring it up right away.
17:10We clicked, and after a couple days, I was like, should I bring this up?
17:13And it was back and forth in my mind, and I decided not to, because I just thought that would
17:18be a better decision, and clearly it wasn't.
17:21Yeah, I think for me, I just wish she would have said something, so I would have said, oh, no,
17:24he connected with someone.
17:25He did share a moment or whatever, a kiss.
17:28Then I'm like, all right, cool, I know.
17:29I will say once we were in communication, there was no communication with her.
17:33It's just a mistake.
17:35It's a mistake.
17:37I am upset at myself for allowing this to even be a thing today.
17:42It's kind of like the honeymoon phase was the retreat, and we're already past the honeymoon phase.
17:47It's too bad that that was how we started this.
17:50His immaturity definitely showed a little bit.
17:55I want someone who can come to me, who fills a safe space in with me, like his partner, and
18:01when he couldn't, it hurt.
18:03I'm not going to keep wasting time on people who can't communicate well.
18:06Because you literally play such a big thing on communicating, and it's consistent.
18:11That's why I was like, oh, dope, I got a communicator, I'm doing great, and then all of a sudden
18:14this happens, and I'm like, blindsided, like, in front of people.
18:19It just, it hurt.
18:21It did.
18:21I'm sorry.
18:23I'm really sorry, honestly.
18:36This is ourselves.
18:38This is nice.
18:39How's it feel?
18:40Amazing.
18:41Good.
18:41Uh-huh.
18:42So, like, let's say we have, like, an amazing two weeks here, okay?
18:45Right, right, right.
18:46We have an amazing two weeks.
18:47We have this, like, beautiful connection, and we're like, okay, we want to, like, explore this, like, further.
18:52Yeah.
18:52What would that look like for us?
18:54Like, you go back to Dallas, I go back to Ohio.
18:57Like, could you see this working out?
18:59Like, we could continue to have a long-distance relationship?
19:03I mean, long-distance is hard, right?
19:05I mean, obviously, like, distance, like, the issue for me would be, like, trust.
19:09Like, I know you're going to, like, want to go out with your friends, and you're going to want to,
19:12like, do things.
19:13Like, I just would have to know, like, I could trust you, like, that you're not, like, going on dates
19:21with other girls, or bringing girls back to your house, you know?
19:24Would you actually be worried about that?
19:27Yes, I would be worried about that.
19:29I mean, I feel like.
19:30Wow.
19:31Like, you're, I mean.
19:31Have you been cheated on before?
19:33Yes, I have.
19:35I mean, that's big for me.
19:37Like.
19:37Yeah.
19:37Because, like, the minute you compromise somebody's trust.
19:40Yeah, like, you have to know, like, like, that's, like, a scary thing, like.
19:44That's fair.
19:44Like, I just would have to know, like, I could just, like, trust you.
19:47Yeah.
19:48Like, would you trust me?
19:49Yeah.
19:50Oh, I love that.
19:51I would hope.
19:52Okay, so let's say that this does work out, and we do the long-distance thing.
19:57Would you tell your friends how old I am?
20:00Like.
20:01Can we just lie and say I'm 39?
20:03Yeah, or we don't have lives.
20:05I don't know.
20:05Really?
20:06I love that you said that.
20:07That was so cute.
20:08I love that you're smart enough to know the right answers.
20:12Like, even if you don't mean it.
20:14Yeah, even if you don't mean it, I appreciate that you're saying this.
20:17Is that a good answer?
20:18That was a good answer.
20:19Okay.
20:19Do you think they would make fun of you?
20:21Maybe.
20:22I don't know.
20:26I don't think they would.
20:27I mean, maybe.
20:28I mean, okay, so I show up.
20:29You know, they might say something, but, like.
20:30Should I?
20:31How much Botox should I get before I come?
20:33Shut up.
20:34I need any of this.
20:35Should I get lip filler?
20:36Like.
20:37Do you like girls with that?
20:39No.
20:40Okay.
20:40Am I annoying you asking these questions?
20:42No, your concerns are valid.
20:43And they're sweet.
20:45And it makes you look like a little innocent, sweet little girl.
20:49Am I worrying?
20:50A little so much.
20:51Are you worried?
20:52I'm not.
20:53I was only worried when you were worried.
20:55Yeah, that was, like, a week ago.
20:58Oh, my gosh.
20:59Two weeks ago.
20:59Feels like a year ago.
21:00No, I think we're good.
21:01Okay?
21:02Once you've tasted surrender.
21:06Sugar, so you're gone now.
21:09Made like heaven just for you.
21:16It's the beginning of the next chapter.
21:21I know we're in the bubble, but I've never been as vulnerable as I am with someone.
21:28Like, I'm fine with telling you how I feel and, like, showing my emotions and not being
21:34scared of expressing what you mean to me.
21:37Because in the past, that's, like, scared some people off or I haven't been comfortable, like, expressing exactly how I
21:45feel.
21:45And I feel like I'm ready for this next chapter.
21:52You're so beyond your years.
21:55Like, it's truly insane.
22:01You really do know who you are.
22:05You know what you want.
22:06You see this relationship for what it is.
22:11And, you know, I am genuinely, like, grateful and blown away at who you are.
22:21And, like, I can't believe, you know, this has happened for me.
22:35So, I'm just glad that, like, this all kind of, like, just fell into place.
22:43Seems kind of too good to be true.
22:51All right, let's go to bed.
23:04All right, this is fun.
23:29What happens when I close my eyes?
23:33These dreams are opening doors.
23:36Very cool.
23:40How are you feeling?
23:43I feel good.
23:46I try not to look at you a lot, though, because, you know, you're fine.
23:51It's just me.
23:52Until you pull on this thread.
23:54You've got my imagination running.
23:58Are you going to carry me to bed?
24:00Yeah.
24:02I love that you picked me up.
24:04Come on.
24:05Don't.
24:05What?
24:05I'm not that heavy.
24:08I am not that heavy.
24:09I think I've lost pounds, by the way.
24:11Yeah, I would be happy.
24:12I am.
24:14Ugh.
24:14Am I getting heavier?
24:15I'm going to be, like, dead weight.
24:20You're so cute.
24:23How do you want me?
24:27I mean, I'm so happy to be here.
24:29But I'm just glad to be, like, set.
24:34I know.
24:34But I'm happy.
24:36I'm happy.
24:36It's been a crazy day, but it feels like a crazy, like, week.
24:40Yeah.
24:41Like, leaving.
24:41I'm ready for this.
24:42I know.
24:43All right.
24:46Some sleep.
24:55Did you have any way off?
24:57Better.
25:08Another day down.
25:09Another day we learn some more about each other, right?
25:11Mm-hmm.
25:12That's the best part of it.
25:13I mean, that's what we're here for, right?
25:14Yeah.
25:16How do you go to bed?
25:17I'm tired, yeah.
25:19I kiss.
25:20Mm-hmm.
25:21That was a wee kiss.
25:23You're dangerous to kiss me.
25:25I love you.
25:27Oh!
25:28Oh!
25:29Oh!
25:29Fresh and skinny.
25:32And skinny.
25:33Like a gouache, huh?
25:35Yeah.
25:35Yeah.
25:37Do bad things to me.
25:39Good night.
25:56There's a little slider right there.
25:57Where?
25:58There's a black slider behind the thing.
26:00No, no.
26:01It's right in your face.
26:02It looks like you're not.
26:03Right there.
26:05I'm tired.
26:06Let's go to sleep.
26:08Are you kidding?
26:09Uh, no.
26:13What?
26:14Do bad things to me.
26:25Sleep, zero.
26:28Happiness, ten.
26:33Chef Boyardee, we're doing some sausage links, scrambled eggs, mimosas, and then Libby is
26:43gonna teach me her morning affirmations.
26:46We're about to be bad bitches.
26:48Yeah.
26:48We're just exploring, not trying to fall in.
26:53Don't have to call in love.
26:54Logan, what are you gonna wear?
26:57Decisions, decisions.
26:59Do you think we brought enough clothes?
27:00Uh, yeah.
27:02But, um, you know.
27:03Or something colorful.
27:04Cool in love.
27:05Hi, guys.
27:06We're here.
27:08We're here in the gym.
27:09Um, I'm gonna run, and Derek is gonna do whatever he's gonna do.
27:14Probably a lot more than me, because I don't lift, so.
27:18Thanksgiving.
27:19We don't have to call in love.
27:23Do you want to work out?
27:26Yeah.
27:27I'm feeling good.
27:28We had a nice night together.
27:30Very comfortable.
27:32Um, no issues really at all.
27:35Like, he's easy to sleep with next to.
27:38What are you gonna do?
27:40The Stairmaster?
27:40Um, probably, because my legs are toasted.
27:45We had some fun, and we enjoyed each other's company.
27:49Um, I think we got some sleep.
27:51Did you ever do Epsom salt baths after?
27:56Like, for sore joints or sore muscles?
27:58No, but I heard my new roommate likes that, so.
28:02Chemistry is perfect.
28:03Like, can't complain at all.
28:05Um, shocking, I guess.
28:09You know, knowing our age difference could get used to this.
28:13You ready?
28:14I'm ready.
28:22How was your night last night?
28:25Boring.
28:25I was not happy.
28:27I learned a lot of things about you.
28:30You know, the funny thing is, um, I learned different things from different people when I was young.
28:37We were very young.
28:39Um, very involved in church, so it was like, that was the thing.
28:43So who was a pastor, your mom, your dad?
28:46My dad.
28:47Your dad?
28:48Mm-hmm.
28:48But, you know, my mother and my father, they separated when I was five.
28:54So, kind of grew up with my mom, you know?
28:57And she was everything.
29:00Always will be.
29:01Mm-hmm.
29:02Like, I have voicemails of her in my phone.
29:05Oh, really?
29:06Voicemails of her in my phone that I still listen to.
29:08Mm-hmm.
29:08Me and my father's relationship, not so much.
29:10We didn't have a great relationship.
29:12Why?
29:13Because he just wasn't around.
29:16But, you know, my mother, the one thing I give to her is that she would never, no disrespect towards
29:23my father.
29:23Never.
29:24Mm-hmm.
29:24And I think that's important.
29:25And that's why, like, I am like I am now.
29:27Like, any woman that was ever in my life, I'm not going to speak negative about her.
29:32Just not.
29:34So.
29:34Do you think them, like, separating and stuff affected your dating life?
29:38Um, you know, no, I don't think they played a part.
29:40I think that, um, I made, I'm a grown man.
29:43I made my own decisions, you know?
29:45And whatever decisions that I made in my life, I'll live with them.
29:48You know what I mean?
29:49Mm-hmm.
29:50What's funny is, because I'm so much older than you, I should have, like, thousands of
29:56more relationships, but I didn't, because I had several long-term relationships, you
30:01know?
30:01Really?
30:02Mm-hmm.
30:02And I haven't had long-term relationships.
30:05Really?
30:05The longest is, like, what, like a year, a year and a half?
30:09Really?
30:10You haven't dated a lot.
30:12Mm-mm.
30:12Which is really, that's not the norm.
30:14Like, normally if you meet someone who's 27, they, a female that's 27, she's been through
30:19her relations, she's gone, she has had relationship history.
30:22Mm-hmm.
30:22You haven't had a lot, which is interesting.
30:26Oh, my God, are we getting deeper?
30:29Yes, yes.
30:35First time grocery shopping, can you see us doing this for 20 more years?
30:39Yeah.
30:40But then I can send you to the store, because I know what I want in life.
30:42Yeah, exactly, exactly.
30:43We'll do it three more times, and then after that, I'll go by myself.
30:46Yeah.
30:46That's it.
30:46In 20 years, how old will you be, babe?
30:4920 years from today, 46.
30:51That'll be delicious.
30:52I'll be a little older than you are right now.
30:54Are you scared?
30:55Okay, but I'll still look younger than you, so it's fine.
30:58You might, yeah.
30:58Wait, so in 20 years, I'm going to be 40.
31:0261.
31:04Wow, that's kind of grown, huh?
31:06I'm going to get some puke.
31:07Yeah, that...
31:08You want some puke?
31:09No, that's for all you.
31:10I'm not going to lie, I can picture you, like, with salt and gray, and you'll be fine.
31:14I'm already graying if you look at my hair.
31:16I know, but you'll, if you're salt and pepper, babe, I don't know.
31:19I, I'm going to like it a lot.
31:22I can already see it.
31:24Yeah.
31:25Give me this.
31:33What are you going to get?
31:35Coffee, tea?
31:36Hopefully they have my raspberry Danish.
31:39Oh.
31:40No, no tea, I'm not a tea guy.
31:42You know what tea I like?
31:43I love a green tea, like a green tea latte.
31:46I like peach snapple.
31:49Oh, God.
31:51That's such, like, a college pretty boy drink.
31:55Yeah.
31:56It was interesting, like, being in the gym together.
31:59Mm-hmm.
32:00And just kind of, like, observing people around us and looking at us.
32:05I don't know, do you feel, like, uncomfortable around other adults, like, with us together or anything?
32:13Does that make you feel uncomfortable?
32:15Absolutely not.
32:16How is that not, how, how is that possible?
32:20Because I don't give a fuck.
32:22Like.
32:23Yeah.
32:25I know that my parents don't care.
32:28I know that my sister.
32:28Like, what if someone came up to us and was like, was this your son?
32:35I would fucking die.
32:36I would die.
32:38But, like, worrying about it's not going to not make it happen.
32:41No, I know, but I, like, just, I want to be prepared.
32:44Yeah, and I appreciate that.
32:47It's shocking that he is so at ease and so excited about being together.
32:54It says that he's, like, secure in his own skin.
32:58I am as well, but, again, I think it's the big age gap that's still kind of got me, like,
33:06questioning things.
33:07I'm like, huh?
33:09If he was just older than my oldest son, life would be a little bit sweeter right now.
33:14I think, like, my personal circle, they're going to be like, what, huh?
33:24Uh-huh.
33:25In what aspect?
33:28Um, interests.
33:30Not only interests.
33:32Well, yeah, like, do you, like, I mean, typically, like, younger and older people, like, generally speaking, don't do, like,
33:41the same type of activities, right?
33:43I mean, obviously, I think we both know or, like, we're realizing, like, we have more in common than we
33:49do not.
33:50So, again, like, being an older woman, the younger guy, it's not something that's, like, commonly seen.
33:57So, I think that's something to just ponder and realize that, like, we're kind of not in the masses.
34:06Yeah.
34:07Right?
34:07Do you want to be in the masses?
34:09No, I don't care.
34:10I want to be with someone who I'm, like, in love with and, you know.
34:14My point is, is, like, there's just going to obviously be, like, repercussions because of that, because we're, like, kind
34:21of unique.
34:23Mm-hmm.
34:24Which is good, but it's just also something just to, like, be prepared for.
34:28Yeah.
34:28Right?
34:30I can tell it's, like, weighing on you.
34:34Yeah.
34:35I mean, this is fairly new, so.
34:37Of course, and I told you yesterday, it's not going to be a flip of a sledge.
34:39True.
34:41Like.
34:41Yeah, good point.
34:44I agree.
34:47You don't have to always agree.
34:49Trust me, I will not always agree with you.
34:52We got that laid-back moonlight, everything seems to fit just right.
35:00Oh, yeah.
35:04You'll do a set, and then I'll do a set.
35:06Like, whatever you do, I do.
35:08Whatever I do, you do?
35:08Yes.
35:09Okay, that's a good bet.
35:11I can do that.
35:12Take it off.
35:15Mm-hmm.
35:15Yeah, keep saying that.
35:17Keep saying that.
35:18All right?
35:19Last night, I told her, okay, well, so, since you miss celibate, you stay on your side of
35:23the bed.
35:24And she didn't.
35:26You know what I'm saying?
35:27Not that, you know, we did anything, but she just came over because she wanted to cuddle.
35:31And I was like, oh, so now you want to cuddle.
35:35Mm-hmm.
35:37Yeah.
35:39You're here making googly eyes.
35:42Vanell's celibacy is going to be a point of contact interest talk.
35:47Do I want to be celibate?
35:49No.
35:50Not in any way, shape, or form.
35:51But do I respect her opinion and her stance and her belief?
35:55Absolutely.
35:56But I think anything merits a conversation, right?
35:59Why you're doing it, what's the real motivation behind it, what you plan on accomplishing
36:04from it, what you really think happens from it.
36:06And I know that's a source of sensitivity for us.
36:10What did you think about last night?
36:12It was fun.
36:13It was fun?
36:14Yeah.
36:15It was good sleeping together.
36:17Did it make you uncomfortable at all?
36:19No, not at all.
36:20Like, I just felt so comfortable with you, and it was, like, natural.
36:23Yeah.
36:24Yeah.
36:24It was like that, right?
36:25Yeah.
36:26And I didn't, I mean, like, I didn't expect it to be like that.
36:31What did you expect?
36:32I mean, I don't know.
36:33I was just, I was, like, actually very, like, a little nervous about us sharing a bed together.
36:38Really?
36:39Yes.
36:39Yes, but, you know, it was just, like, nice having you there with me.
36:43That's nice.
36:44I didn't know, I didn't know you were nervous.
36:45Mm-hmm.
36:46I was.
36:47You handled it well.
36:48Oh, thank you.
36:49Because I thought you were, like, you were just easy, like, as far as you were, like,
36:53not tripping, no way.
36:54Yeah, no, I was.
36:55Really?
36:56Mm-hmm.
36:57Wow.
36:57I'm glad I didn't know, because I'd have been like, nah, I've got to stay on the couch.
37:01Yeah.
37:01This is all new to me, because obviously, you know, I haven't lived with anyone before.
37:05Did it seem easy, like, it wasn't...
37:07It was so easy.
37:08It was, like, seamless, right?
37:09Yeah.
37:10I keep looking for, like, okay, so what's the catch?
37:12Really?
37:13Yeah.
37:14Okay, so, at first when you said celibate, I was like...
37:21So that's the catch.
37:23That's the catch.
37:24Okay, she's celibate, okay.
37:26So that's the catch.
37:26You celibate, I'll buy a bit, but, I mean, you know, I'm just like, nah, like, okay.
37:30But I've got to stop looking for what's the catch, because, um, I dig you, and I dig what we've
37:37got going on.
37:38Yeah.
37:39You couldn't stop cuddling me.
37:42Oh, let me see.
37:43I could have swore.
37:45Yeah, okay, okay, okay, so it wasn't, oh, so it wasn't, oh, it wasn't just me.
37:52Because I could have swore, I said, hey, you know, I'll just tell you, like, no.
37:56Now, you know what, do you think anybody would believe that you stayed on your side of the bed?
38:04Do you think anybody would believe that?
38:06Yeah.
38:06No, look at you.
38:08I stayed on my end of the mat, babe.
38:12Why did you climb over?
38:15Hmm?
38:16I just wanted to kiss you.
38:18You just wanted to kiss me?
38:19Mm-hmm.
38:20Is this what you did last night?
38:23Oh, but look.
38:25How did we get to get in the world at our feet?
38:29We got everything the way we want.
38:35We'll live forever, so wild and so free.
38:39Hey, how are you?
38:41I love you.
38:42You look so good.
38:43I love the short.
38:45Thanks.
38:45What are you doing?
38:46I just was having some wine, and I recorded you a glass.
38:50Yeah.
38:51Perfect timing.
38:51Yay.
38:52I'm dying to hear everything.
38:54Yeah.
38:54Yeah.
38:55Cheers.
38:56Cheers.
38:57Cheers.
38:57Cheers to this fun experience.
39:00Mm-hmm.
39:01How, like, what's...
39:03Yes, have we got one day?
39:03Have you slept?
39:04Have you, like...
39:05I know, it's like a whirlwind, isn't it?
39:07Yeah, we got, like, settled in, moved in.
39:10Yeah.
39:10First night, so exhausted.
39:12Yeah.
39:12Didn't sleep.
39:13I know, you were, like, so tired when we got here.
39:15Yeah.
39:15Yeah.
39:15You had your dinner.
39:16How did your dinner go?
39:17It was...
39:18It was really good.
39:19Okay.
39:19It was very cute.
39:20Um...
39:21What did he make you?
39:22He made me a New York strip.
39:24Okay.
39:25With these, like, special potatoes that I guess his family makes.
39:28That was really sweet.
39:29It was really sweet.
39:30And it turned out, like, really good.
39:32Okay.
39:33So...
39:33You guys slept well and everything?
39:35Yeah, we slept really good.
39:36Okay, good.
39:38How good?
39:42Good.
39:43Okay, good.
39:44I'm glad your sleep is going well.
39:47Yeah.
39:47So I have to know.
39:48Have you guys had sex yet?
39:50Um, yeah, we have.
39:51Good for you.
39:53I'm so jealous.
39:54Yeah.
39:55I would like to do it two times a day, at least, if possible.
39:58Like, are you the initiator or is he the initiator?
40:00I think it's kind of mutual, actually.
40:02Yes.
40:03And he's, like, a magnetism.
40:05Like, it's, like, a draw.
40:06Yeah.
40:06And, like, that's what I was hoping, because I was, like, this magnet.
40:10He was, like, the magnet that was turned this way that pushes away.
40:13You know what you ever do?
40:14Like, the magnets when they, like, together and the opposite.
40:17Right.
40:17Yeah.
40:18I almost feel like I'm in the friend zone right now.
40:20Oh, no.
40:21Yeah.
40:22Do you guys, like, hug or, like, hold hands or anything?
40:24Yeah, we hug and kiss and stuff like that.
40:25It's very PG.
40:27It's not even PG-13.
40:28It's, like, a Disney movie right now.
40:30Like, he just wants to be my prince.
40:31And I adore him.
40:33I really do.
40:34And he's not treating me badly, but I want to feel, like, crazy in love.
40:39You know what I mean?
40:40Like, I want to feel like I can't be without you.
40:43You know, especially, like, it's the beginning.
40:44Like, that beginning phase of the relationship.
40:47So do you think he is just holding back?
40:50Or do you think he's, like, like, do you think he wants more?
40:54Like, yeah, I don't know.
40:55Like, that's where we're at.
40:56I'm at a point right now.
40:57Yeah.
40:57And I'm, like...
40:58Because you definitely should feel like this person wants me.
41:04Wants me.
41:04Like, in it.
41:05Right.
41:05Exactly.
41:06Like, I want to respect his journey.
41:07Yeah.
41:08But I felt like when we arrived in Vancouver and we were at our mixer, like, everybody was
41:13cuddled up.
41:14And we were just, like, you know, kind of holding hands from afar.
41:17So then I'm, like, is this issue that I'm having with him, is this an age-related issue
41:22or is this just his personality?
41:24Exactly.
41:24So I feel like he's apprehensive.
41:26If he's in his head.
41:28Yeah.
41:28And I think there's a stigma that people think women after a certain age, like, oh, we're
41:33just going to dry up and we're not into that.
41:35Or about them.
41:36I'm, like, on fire.
41:37Like, I've been ready to explode.
41:39Like, I can't, I can't handle this.
41:41I mean, if it was me and I was in your shoes, I would just rip off the band-aid
41:46and go
41:46for it.
41:46Okay, maybe tonight's the night.
41:48That's what I would do if I were you.
41:50Obviously, you deserve to have your needs met and all of those things.
41:55And so it's, like, when do you make that decision to say, like, okay, enough is enough.
41:59Like, if you're not on the same page as me, like, I can't move forward with this.
42:04Like, literally the first night where I was, like, I wonder who's having sex right now?
42:08Who's not?
42:09Because I'm not.
42:12I'm batting a zero right now.
42:14So, yeah.
42:15How many times a day?
42:17Oh, my God.
42:19Well, I feel like a 27-year-old should be, like, an Energizer bunny.
42:22Oh, trust me.
42:23Okay.
42:35Excited to play soccer.
42:36Have you ever kicked a soccer ball before?
42:38I kicked some balls in my days.
42:43Do you know I used to play?
42:45What?
42:46Yeah.
42:46So I used to play here in Vancouver.
42:50Like, after college, I moved here, signed with the Whitecaps.
42:54I was, like, hurt coming out of college.
42:57So, like, I was rehabbing.
42:58I just wasn't in, like, the best place mentally.
43:01And then not playing.
43:03It just sucked.
43:04So, yeah.
43:05I don't really talk about it.
43:06I don't talk about it because, um, I don't know.
43:08Part of me is, like, regretful about it.
43:12The other part is, like, a little embarrassed because I feel like I just gave up.
43:16So.
43:17No, I don't think it's embarrassing.
43:18If anything, it's, like, a fun little fact of yours.
43:21It's a fun little, honestly, that's what it is.
43:23It's a fun little fact.
43:24You have so many other redeeming qualities that doesn't.
43:28So my short-lived professional soccer career isn't going to scare you away?
43:32I don't think it's going to be the thing, um, that's the deal breaker for me.
43:36Well, let's see if you do even know how to kick a ball.
43:39Go stand over there.
43:40I told you I've kicked balls before.
43:46Oh, okay.
43:47Not bad, not bad.
43:49Coming back to Vancouver after the way I left 17 years ago.
43:53Ow!
43:55For me, it's, like, a very vulnerable thing, and it's not an easy thing for me to talk about.
44:00Ow!
44:00My foot already hurts.
44:02But I think she creates a space where, like, I feel, you know, safe enough to tell her things like
44:08that.
44:09Ah!
44:10The conversations that we're having on a day-to-day basis just keep getting deeper.
44:14I really prefer a hug or walk.
44:16From an intimacy standpoint.
44:18It just feels like it's really clicking, and I really do feel like we've connected, you know, so much the
44:24last 24 hours.
44:33How old were you when you were playing soccer here?
44:3721.
44:39When that didn't work out, it was, like, a huge letdown, or was it just kind of like, okay, I'll
44:43revert now?
44:44Like, like, all I ever wanted to do growing up was play soccer.
44:48Like, I didn't care about my grades.
44:50Like, my grades were just to get me through so that I could continue to play soccer.
44:53Like, it was soccer, soccer, soccer.
44:55Like, that's all I ever wanted to do.
44:57I think what messed me up the most at the time was my dad.
45:05I know that he was so disappointed without, and he would never say it to me, but, like, I feel
45:12still to this day that I just, like, really let him down.
45:15Yeah.
45:16More than I let myself down.
45:17Yeah, that's hard, but I think a lot of people probably disappoint their parents.
45:21There will probably be times where your daughters take a different path than what you were hoping, but all you
45:27can do is what's best for yourself in the moment, and sometimes that won't make sense to anybody else by
45:32yourself.
45:33No, I feel you.
45:35I feel like there's, like, this new side of Libby that I'm seeing, and I don't know.
45:42I just, I feel like little by little, you're letting your guard down, and you're showing me this, you know,
45:48softer, more intentional side of you, and I'm just, like, who is this person?
45:55And it's, I don't know.
45:56It's really melting my heart a little bit.
46:01And honestly, like, I am really surprised.
46:05I don't think that at 22 I would be able to do something like this.
46:11So I think it speaks to, you know, the woman that you are, because I don't think that I would
46:17have been in the right place to do something like this.
46:21I told you I'm a little crazy.
46:25We know that.
46:26It seems like where we're both at in our lives at this point is the perfect time for us to
46:32make this relationship work.
46:35I think I'm definitely more attracted to the fact that he's more mature if I met him at 22.
46:41From the way that he's described himself at that age, I don't think we would be compatible.
46:46I love the perspective he has due to the fact that he's older, and he has gone through certain experiences
46:54that make him the person that he is today.
46:56So this is perfect timing.
47:00I have a huge, like, man crush on Cristiano Ronaldo and David Beckham.
47:06Like, I would fangirl big time if I ever met David Beckham.
47:10Yeah.
47:11And that's wild to me that you don't know who his wife is.
47:14I told you I'm out of touch with pop culture.
47:17But you don't know who the Spice Girls are?
47:19I do, but, like, I couldn't name one.
47:21Not one single Spice Girl.
47:23No.
47:24That's wild.
47:25I know TLC.
47:27TLC, but you don't know the Spice Girls.
47:28They were, like, the biggest, like, girl pop band ever.
47:32When?
47:34Yeah, a little while ago, but I mean, it happens.
47:37I'm thinking of the Powderpuff Girls.
47:40Do you know what that is?
47:40No.
47:41Okay.
47:42Powderpuff?
47:43Don't worry about it.
47:52Just light it up and let this thing burn.
48:00You almost done?
48:01Yeah.
48:02You gave it a full few minutes.
48:05I'm at the end of my lease?
48:06Yep.
48:08Brush me.
48:10My beloved deep brush.
48:14The hell?
48:16I like to brush intensely.
48:18The two brushes.
48:20Do we feel bad for the two of us?
48:22Look, what the fuck is that?
48:39Hey, boo.
48:40Hi.
48:41How are you?
48:42Good.
48:42Good to see you.
48:45What are you up to?
48:46Yeah.
48:47You got one glass here.
48:48Yeah, you can have it.
48:48Can we get another?
48:49I'm good.
48:49So we can talk.
48:50All right.
48:51Oh, okay.
48:56Sit closer.
48:57Okay.
48:58How are you?
48:59I'm good.
49:00How are you?
49:01So, I just want to talk to you, but don't feel attacked.
49:04Like, honestly, like, at the end of the day, like, I don't want you to feel attacked.
49:08It's just been something that's been weighing on me.
49:10Yeah.
49:10I feel like you're not attracted to me.
49:14I feel like we're kind of in a friend zone right now.
49:18Okay.
49:21And I'm sorry that you feel that way.
49:24Obviously, I'm attracted to you, but, I mean, do you honestly feel that way?
49:28Like, we've been kissing, we've been holding hands, we've been cuddling.
49:34Like, what is it that you actually...
49:36I do, but I feel like I'm the one that, like, has to initiate it.
49:39I would beg to differ.
49:41Okay.
49:41I'm not going to lie to you.
49:43Like, I felt like that last night.
49:45Okay.
49:45You know, and I feel like...
49:46Even though we cuddled last night.
49:48Ish.
49:49I've cuddled more with girl best friends than we cuddled last night.
49:53Like, you know?
49:54Okay.
49:54My thing is I want to build this the right way.
49:56You know, the last thing, you know, I'm used to...
50:01Being physical first.
50:02Yeah.
50:03But I want to build a solid foundation and get to know you for you.
50:07I don't want to feel needy, but I also want to feel wanted.
50:12Yeah.
50:12Like, attracted.
50:13Like, it doesn't have to be, like, sexual.
50:15I don't want to, like, hook up on the first night that we're, like, together.
50:19Well, that's what it sounds like.
50:21It's not that there's a hesitation to be intimate.
50:23I don't think that's the driving factor.
50:27If a relationship starts way too passionate, way too obsessed,
50:31I think, you know, a flame that burns too hot too quickly can burn out.
50:37I'm not going to love-bomb you because that's...
50:39It's fake, yeah.
50:40And it's manipulative.
50:42Okay.
50:42Like, I appreciate you respecting me and I appreciate, like, your communication with me.
50:49But I don't want to be, like, a two-week fling and then, like, you don't want to talk to
50:54me anymore.
50:54Like, I don't want to start developing feelings for someone who just, like, think this is, like, a throwaway thing.
51:01I don't want to go back home to my empty house.
51:04I don't want to do this all for nothing.
51:06Like, is he the right person?
51:08Did I pick the right person?
51:10Or did I pick wrong again?
51:14And I just wanted to share with you.
51:16And I just feel like...
51:24I just want to feel like this is just more than a friendship.
51:27Oh, is this the end?
51:34Is this the final moment?
51:42Oh, is this the end?
51:48In the eleventh hour
51:54Will you take my hand?
51:58Or is this the end?
52:03What if tonight
52:05Is all we have
52:09Will you choose
52:13Another path
52:17What if the end
52:19Was a new beginning
52:22Another chance
52:25Or is this the end?
52:32What if somebody
52:34Or is this the end?
52:36That's what an end
52:37Getting
52:56Where
52:57Will
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