00:00You could be a believer that the New England Patriots are going to spend a lot of money in free
00:03agency, all of which are possible.
00:05However, as NFL tampering in free agency technically starts later today, I am weary on exactly how much they're going
00:14to spend.
00:15Look, rumors are flying all over the place.
00:18Josina Anderson is reporting or stating that the Patriots or the Eagles want like a first, a second and a
00:24player for A.J. Brown, which seems like a ridiculous price.
00:29But then again, you hear Ian Rappaport talk about how trade talks have stalled.
00:33Then Anthony Gargano, I believe it was, of like All City from Philadelphia claims that the Patriots offered a first
00:40and a third for A.J. Brown, which if that's the case and the deal didn't get done, then the
00:43Eagles are dumb.
00:44I don't think the Patriots offered that much.
00:46I think they're probably stuck on a second and like a fourth and the Eagles want the first round pick.
00:51And it's some kind of battle back and forth on that because the Eagles technically are in no rush to
00:56trade him.
00:57It's less punitive on them if they hold on to him and wait until that post-June 1st deadline for
01:03his money reasons.
01:05It hurts their cap less if they hold on to him.
01:07So it's really going to kind of come down to who budges first.
01:11Howie Roseman is a guy who normally deals in a position of leverage.
01:14This time, not so much.
01:16So he is kind of battling as hard as he can to get the best result.
01:20And I don't think the Patriots are going to overextend themselves.
01:25As Prosecutor Lally used to say, what, if anything, does the relationship between Mike Vrabel and A.J. Brown do
01:35when it comes to helping this happen?
01:37Or is it all on the Eagles?
01:39They're not going to help him in any way, shape, or form.
01:42And he says, hey, I really want to play here.
01:45Yeah, the relationship will not help in the actual trade negotiations.
01:48It'll help once he gets here, if he gets here.
01:50But when it comes to actually dealing with the Eagles, that's not going to help at all.
01:53The Patriots are going to be, even if they're interested, they are going to have to deal with Howie Roseman.
01:58And Howie Roseman is not going to lose a trade.
01:59He's just not.
02:00You look at him historically, he wins every trade.
02:03And that's by design.
02:04Well, Sean, do you think, because if the report was the Patriots offered a first-round pick and the Eagles
02:10said no, which you don't believe that to be true, right?
02:14I feel like if they offered a first and a third, according to that guy from Philadelphia, the deal would
02:18be done.
02:18Gone.
02:18Okay.
02:19All right.
02:19That's why I think that I don't know if the Patriots offered a first-round pick.
02:22I don't know if they feel like no one's going to give the Eagles a first-round pick for A
02:27.J.
02:27Why not?
02:28Maybe that's what they do.
02:29But why wouldn't you?
02:30Curtis said that at the start.
02:31Curtis, you were in favor of giving the first-round pick, right?
02:34Without a doubt.
02:35Yeah, but I don't know if the way that they look at it, we would do that, Greg, because that's
02:40how we are as fans.
02:42But maybe they're looking at it like he, in the eyes of the league, is only worth the second-round
02:49pick.
02:49If you're an Eagles front office man, if you're Howie Roseman, and you saw D.J. Moore going for what
02:54he went for, you would be foolish to not only accept anything that had a first-round pick in return.
03:00Like, it would be shocking, if he is indeed traded, that there is not a first-round pick involved.
03:05Right, but what if nobody's offering you that first-round pick?
03:08I believe that they will.
03:09If the market value is for what D.J. Moore is, it's a pretty clear comp.
03:13Just like when we talked about Alonso in a different sport, it's like when Schwarber got what he got, you
03:17kind of knew what Alonso was going to get.
03:18Right, so then maybe the eyes of the league, they're like, you're the same as D.J. Moore.
03:23We're only going to give up a second-round pick.
03:25Right, I just don't think the league views them as the same.
03:27I don't either, Curtis. I don't think the league views them as the same.
03:30I think the Patriots probably have offered a two and something else, but they refuse to go to the one,
03:35and that's exactly why Gargano from All-City claimed that they offered a one and three, because that's the price
03:40Philadelphia wants.
03:41They want a one and a three, and the Patriots won't get there.
03:44So what is the plan at the position, then?
03:47Pray for rain.
03:49Steph Diggs, if you were smart, you would have hung on to him, but they'd probably bring him back.
03:53No, I don't think he's not coming back.
03:55Do you want Jennings? That doesn't make you excited?
03:56Rashid Shaheed?
03:57No.
03:59Pierce?
03:59No.
04:00No.
04:00Also, the reports on him lately, 30-plus million a year for him, and there's no way the Patriots are
04:06spending that, thankfully.
04:07I know we lead the league in white-wide receivers, but I think we're good.
04:11And I don't know if you're going to give him, you know, maybe a team will give him this, Sean,
04:17you might know, but 30 million for one season that you've proven that you could be a thousand-yard receiver?
04:24Right, and if you're that team, Wiggs, and you're saying, my options are 30 million a year for this guy,
04:29Alec Pierce, or I get rid of a first-round pick and I get A.J. Brown.
04:33It's A.J. Brown.
04:34It's simple.
04:34Yeah, it's all day long.
04:36All right.
04:38Noon is when you can begin to tamper legally today.
04:41Oh, also, just a recommendation real quick, Greg, sorry.
04:44Yeah.
04:44The Patriots should probably pay Christian Gonzalez sooner rather than later because the price continues to only go up after
04:50that Trent McDuffie contract.
04:51Right, I know.
04:53By the way, Wiggs, you've been on this.
04:55Like, the contracts are looking more and more like NBA deals.
04:58Shorter with more guaranteed money during your prime.
05:01Yeah.
05:01Four years, 124 or something, what was it?
05:03Yeah, get it early because then it still gives you another kick at the can down the road, you know,
05:09if you're playing well.
05:10Because you know how these contracts are.
05:13It's really, it says four years, but it's really three years because then after that third season, he's going to
05:19be looking to redo his deal like a lot of teams.
05:22So, if you just put yourself in Robert Kraft's chair and you're going to have to pay Gonzalez $30 million
05:32a year, right?
05:33Well, yeah, I think that's $32 million.
05:35Okay, then by the time you're going to do, redo Drake's deal, you're going to have to pay him almost
05:42$60 million a year.
05:44Are you willing, if you're Robert Kraft, to invest whatever it's going to take to get A.J. Brown or
05:51a wide receiver?
05:52No, that's exactly why, what was it, Curtis, the Herald had the cash flow issues quote or whatever, or comment
05:57last week?
05:58Andrew Callaghan.
05:58Yeah, like there's no way they're spending this money.
06:01That's why I've been saying now for a week to temper expectations when it comes to the offseason of free
06:06agency because they are primed to not spend money.
06:09Oh, I don't like hearing that, Shy.
06:12Doesn't make me happy when you say that.
06:13All right, great lead.
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