00:00christmas morning and waking up to coal great well there's time left it's uh day two so right
00:06something big could be coming well a whole lot of big things left at the store friend
00:13right well i mean basically trey hendrickson or you're trading for aj brown or brian thomas that's
00:18about it and based on kind of like you know curtis's lead a little bit if robert craft if
00:24you believe robert craft is not willing to open up his checkbook like that then you're probably
00:30not going to get either one of those two guys because they're probably going to cost you a lot
00:34of money well um he certainly is going to have to open his checkbook as you put it uh for
00:43christian
00:44gonzalez and that number got uh bigger uh so i i mean i i think they could do both you
00:54can put it
00:54off for a while but you're gonna have to pay him uh over a hundred million dollars yeah i don't
01:01know
01:01the rams just paid trent mcduffie they also signed another corner in free agency their quarterback
01:07makes 40 50 million dollars they were interested in aj brown they're gonna have to pay puka nakua
01:12they paid davante adams last year i don't know like you teams are capable of doing it if you're
01:17willing to do it i would love to be in that cap jail it sounds lovely i mean it's the
01:22dumbest thing in
01:23the world they can do all of this they can they choose not to and i know what wiki and
01:27courtney
01:28are saying about why would vrabel come here if he doesn't have final say because he's making 15
01:33million dollars a year and he trusts that the team can go in the right direction because he has the
01:37quarterback but all i get told is that the cheat code in the nfl is a great quarterback on his
01:42rookie
01:42deal and this is what you're doing with that a fullback you're losing digs bringing in nobody
01:51but is this a a vrabel wolf thing no it's a craft thing it's remained the same for 30 years
02:02so then you believe it wasn't bill who was cheap and out in the past said that he said that
02:08during
02:08his lead this morning yes he now believes that it wasn't bill who was cheap i think bill was fine
02:13with it but i believe that it was robert craft's budget that was what was put into place
02:19this is a very very interesting kind of road we're going down like well i feel like vrabel
02:26so why does vrabel then say if i want it i buy it because why would he want to tell
02:32the world he
02:32doesn't have power yeah yeah but he can always be like you know we we like we like to look
02:37at
02:37certain things and make the best decision for the team like he can always spin it that way
02:42right but when you spin it the same way it it bit um um gerard mayo in the ass we
02:49got money to burn
02:50right well that was because of me grilling right so when you say those cash ready to burn some cash
02:56that could come back to bite you in the ass like why would vrabel then say that he can shop
03:03at neiman
03:03marcus and get what he wants if he wants it but knowing that he really can't do that knowing that
03:09that's going to come back to bite him in the ass well when it comes to aj brown do you
03:14believe
03:14it is the fact that that's not a done deal is it more about the money you're going to have
03:20to pay
03:20him or the assets you are going to have to part with there you go and that and that affecting
03:25your
03:26future right and if it's the assets is that really a craft lane no that's a that's probably a mike
03:32rabel elliott wolf lane so my thought is is the assets are what's holding up the deal
03:36but the money is what is holding up them pursuing more in free agency you see what i'm saying
03:43so we have the money set aside so remove the aj brown thing yep um so that's that's the reason
03:50why
03:51even if you look at uh a tight end for instance like isaiah likely that like that's the reason why
03:59they weren't in on that free agency wise is the money yeah and the other argument would be i guess
04:04so first of all rabel says that because he wants people to think he's in charge and i'm sure he
04:07is
04:07to a certain extent it's just coincidence that for 30 years they've always handled free agency this way
04:14with different coaches different quarterbacks different teams like they are they've had success
04:18doing it that way but that was you know in a large part probably what are you chuckling about i'm
04:23chuckling because when you have the cheat code at quarterback you can literally do anything i'm saying
04:27that so they are uh they have been institutionally programmed to believe that if you have the
04:36quarterback then you can put the the parts around him don't need to be the a plus super expensive parts
04:42but bill belichick on our show told me that the the way that the rams and bucks had behaved was
04:48going
04:48to cost them with their roster because they had gone in too many years in a row in that season
04:53the rams
04:54and the bucks made the playoffs and the patriots went four and 13 it doesn't help you to do what
05:00the patriots do unless you have a great quarterback and i believe that they left championships on the
05:05table because of the roster they put together with tom brady but i also think that rabel is his own
05:10guy
05:10and has a completely different thought process when it comes to free agents or trading at getting guys
05:16acquisition wise completely different than bill belichick right and i just you know courtney and i think we
05:22agree on this like rabel is the a type personality to not be like i'm gonna go to a place
05:30and be
05:31handcuffed because we know from some of the things that he talks about how he's learned from some of
05:36his mistakes in his past he knows that that isn't a good way to operate because it was something that
05:43i we didn't see out of iowa and in tennessee we will hopefully be able to talk to him again
05:49end of
05:49this month because he is participating in saving by shaving again and we are going to be there at the
05:55end of this month that uh at granite again also somebody somebody else uh big major level local uh
06:05local sports celebrity getting their head shaved as well i don't think i'm allowed to say who it is but
06:10is it the same position as somebody else it might it might be is it sophie it might be um
06:15mac jones has
06:17taken over my my tiktok algorithm i don't know what's going on but every time he pops up it's
06:22like he's having a lot of fun my guy he's living his best life he yelled there 20 something makes
06:28millions wearing chains that look ridiculous on him and i don't know listen there are there are
06:34patriots fans certainly who are have been texting in all morning every time we talk about this
06:39and saying uh you guys are ridiculous they were active when it when it comes to to free agency
06:46and they got a guard and they got a fullback and uh so why are we why are we happy
06:53about a fullback
06:53are they gonna run the wing t and that's why i say it i don't think it's so much about
06:58the money
06:58because last year you just brought it up they were active in free agency when it came to spending money
07:03they spent a bunch of money last year right but for the entirety of their ownership no no no no
07:08but
07:09i'm just like i want i want to focus on the vrabel era the bill era is that's a different
07:15conversation
07:16and maybe they did things differently i feel like the vrabel era is completely different and i think
07:21you and i feel that way because what we had heard was that vrabel met with craft in seaport at
07:26his
07:26apartment elliot wolf was there so he knew that elliot wolf was going to be the guy i believe that
07:31josh
07:31mcdaniel's that whole conversation probably happened as well i think mike vrabel has final say in
07:36everything when it comes to this team because i don't think he would have come here otherwise right
07:40and i look at so do you think mike vrabel was presented with the opportunity to pay uh alec
07:49pierce 40 million dollars a year and said no to it no shot yeah no shot was he presented with
07:54that
07:54opportunity they they were like yeah we're not doing that so they probably had a number they'd be
08:00comfortable with who's we're not doing that robert craft they did it with milton williams
08:06last year so i i believe they probably said and i would think it may be vrabel where where
08:13maybe craft said hey if you want alec pierce you can go get him and and they go he's not
08:20worth
08:20the money he's gonna get so if you presented mike vrabel with the option of retaining steph diggs
08:25and keeping him under the contract he signed biting the bullet for three and a half million
08:29dollars and seeing what the free agent market and trade market for receiver looked like you're
08:34saying vrabel said no we need to release him now no i think vrabel said i i think vrabel said
08:41that
08:41we're gonna get aj brown we we feel we hey we appreciate everything you did steph diggs but
08:47we don't want to pay you what we have what we're supposed to pay you for next year we feel
08:53like
08:53you're not worth that right but you don't have to pay him the full freight you would just have to
08:57pay
08:57him the three million yeah but if they're like why are we going to pay him the three million when
09:00we
09:01know we're not going to because you need to make sure that you have an answer at receiver before i
09:05think it's the exact same discussion we had when the the bruins traded linus omar right lose all of
09:10your level and i and i understand that but i think vrabel was like we're moving on from this guy
09:15anyways we might as well save ourselves a couple bucks so where does his thousand plus yards come
09:19from i think they feel like whoever the guy that they go and get is going to be the guy
09:24that is
09:25going to nobody left the market is dwindling it could be we've we've talked about it did romeo
09:31dobbs sign on anybody no he is available it could be one of those type of guys in their minds
09:37they
09:37could be looking at it we can get the same type of production for probably a little bit less than
09:42where we're going to pay steph diggs this year from a guy like romeo dobbs or that type of player
09:47that's available out there the receivers still available today tyreek hill christian kirk debo
09:52samuel darnell mooney curtis samuel hollywood brown juan jennings right nobody even knows where
09:58debo samuel is no he's like missing isn't he no debo though you're thinking of um brandon i you
10:05yeah you're thinking about you yeah debo was matt you know what debo was you gotta love this one
10:09he was just out partying with coddie b oh he was yeah that's not right well he's just so it's
10:16too
10:17soon well i think she there was some other people around okay wasn't just the two of them yeah debo
10:22happened to be one this is mike mike hello hello what's up mike hey how we doing good how are
10:30you
10:30i want to talk i'm good i this is my first time calling so forgive me if i'm a little
10:34nervous
10:35but i was listening to you guys and uh i was you know i'm a little older uh i feel
10:40like the uh
10:41we've always i always thought you build championships either through defense or
10:45or from the trenches inside out doesn't matter whether you have brian uh thomas or or uh aj brown
10:51or whoever if he has no time to get the ball i mean that's what we did for years we
10:55gave brady time
10:56and he made things happen i just feel you know that's what we need to do we need to show
11:01up
11:01our quarterback and make sure he's safe back there well they didn't do that if that's the
11:06case then why not overspend on tyler linderbaum and keep wilson at guard or spend on a center and a
11:13guard elgin elgin jenkins is there if you wanted a center uh there's plenty of guards like you could
11:19have you could have picked a ton of different guys but you just all you did was sign elijah
11:23tucker who can't stay on the field for a full season i just um i am hopeful that something is
11:32going to happen today and that they have a trick up the up the sleeve yeah and but that's why
11:39when we
11:39have this conversation that's why a lot of it and i would say i don't know 70 percent of it
11:48i
11:49obviously put on vrabel because i know vrabel vrabel is not coming someplace or gonna be
11:56somewhere where they're like you can't do this this this this and this but they're not telling
12:01him he can't do anything wiggie it's they give him a budget right they're like spend within this
12:04budget so that's why yesterday they don't pursue a ton of free agents because all their eggs are in
12:09the aj brown basket so 30 million dollars of that budget is set aside and then when they don't get
12:14aj
12:14brown if they don't get him now you've wasted an opportunity to spend that 30 million on good
12:19impactful players well i but see maybe part of their budgeting is like we because aj brown is not
12:26a free agent we have to hold off and figure out what's the best way to get him so we
12:32potentially
12:32could be missing out on some players but hey our backup plan if we don't get aj brown could be
12:39jawan jennings uh
12:41jawan jennings uh
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