00:00O novo filme da Disney Pixar, Cara de Um, Focinho de Outro, chegou aos cinemas brasileiros no dia 5 de
00:06março,
00:06em uma história que nos leva para dentro do reino animal.
00:09A Super Interessante conversou com o diretor do filme, Daniel Chong,
00:13e com a produtora, Nicole Grindle, sobre o backstage científico da produção.
00:17Eu entendo vocês!
00:17Como é bom estar vivo!
00:19Eu também tenho que desabafar!
00:21Lagato, lagato, hora do lanche!
00:30O que inspirou você a contar essa história e era uma coisa específica de um evento ou uma experiência personal?
00:39O interessante é que eu não cresi muito em natureza, eu realmente amo animais, ou eu tenho uma conexão com
00:47a conexão com animais.
00:49Eu acho que é uma coisa que me ensinou como desenhar, eu amo desenhar animais.
00:54E eu sempre tive uma afinidade para criar animais, e tudo que eu fiz,
00:59ela me ensinou como uma série, como a TV, tudo que eu vi, tudo que eu tenho a fazer animais,
01:03incluindo esse filme.
01:04Então, é meio que o meu desenho, é meio que o meu filme.
01:09Mas eu acho que um pouco de isso, que eu acho que tudo estou sentindo,
01:13e ainda estou a sentir a época, que é como o que nós nos sentimos,
01:16um desacrediremos de um outro, e como as coisas estavam ficando muito facutadas em um mundo,
01:21e, você sabe, entre todos os dois, especialmente porque a tecnologia e tudo assim.
01:26E eu acho que foi um grande coisa para lembrar que nós somos animais, também,
01:31e que nós somos parte do mesmo ecossistema.
01:34E, em algumas vezes, quando você pensa em um mundo assim,
01:37e a nossa posição em um mundo assim,
01:40isso faz você sentir um pouco diferente
01:42sobre como nós nos relacionamos e nos conectamos.
01:45E talvez nós podemos ser um pouco mais de um outro.
01:48Então, é meu caminho.
01:51Eu vou apenas adicionar que é engraçado que Daniel não spendia tempo em nature
01:55como criança, porque em fazer a pesquisa para o filme,
01:57eu fui para Yellowstone National Park,
01:59e foi uma experiência mágica de estar em natureza.
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03:27To me, the fun of that idea is playing with all the ideas that humans try to infiltrate the animal
03:33world, try to fit in, but fail in doing so, or succeed in this movie.
03:38So I think that was kind of the beginning inspiration of the movie.
03:43When we tell our stories, we always start with a character and a good, strong premise.
03:49And the thing about avatars, it's allowed us to communicate out to the audience, to the general world, what the
03:54premise of this is.
03:55But we really were motivated, once we figured out that premise, to introduce Mabel and to follow her story through.
04:02And then it was really about just wish fulfillment.
04:05It was like, well, if you did get to do that, why would you go there, and then what would
04:09you try to accomplish, and what surprises would you find there?
04:12And it's been fun thinking about, well, how would she react when animals eat other animals?
04:18How do you follow, in her mind, the rules that humans are governed by, and how do they differ in
04:24the animal world?
04:25And how do we still connect, in spite of those differences?
04:30So just in telling the story, you end up tripping over these things that emerge, and then later, as you
04:37evaluate the film at the end, you go, oh, I guess we were telling a story that has all this
04:41meaning and all this metaphor that we didn't even intend.
04:45That's so funny.
04:46One thing that really stood out to me in the movie was the diversity of animals, you know, each one
04:51with different sounds, with different movements.
04:53How challenging was it to portray all of that?
04:56And did you work with science advisors?
04:58Maybe you, no, maybe no.
05:00How did you decide when to follow real biology and when to create something new?
05:06Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
05:08I mean, with animation, we're definitely led by the humor and the fun and the anything-kind-of-goes kind
05:14of thing.
05:15And I think that definitely is something we wanted to exploit and make sure that, you know, we're making the
05:20most use of the visual medium.
05:22But I think the nice thing is you can add some truths into that.
05:27And we certainly did, especially when it comes to beavers, because they are the central animal in this movie.
05:33And so what we did was we actually went out and we found a beaver expert.
05:38Her name was Dr. Emily Fairfax.
05:41And she would come and watch the film sometimes when we had it.
05:45She would do lectures with us.
05:47And she even took our team out to go see beavers.
05:50And we basically took a lot of that knowledge and we ended up putting it in the film.
05:54So I would say we play it fast and loose overall, but definitely when it came to beavers, we made
06:01sure that we put a lot of truth in there.
06:03Because, you know, that's the way you kind of ground the movie a little bit more so you can kind
06:07of relate a little bit more.
06:08But it also is the thing that helps you kind of take the movie and live your life so you
06:14now have all this knowledge.
06:15And I think that's the fun of watching this movie is people will probably come out pretty well-versed in
06:20what beavers do.
06:21And just to be clear, the central idea that beavers are a keystone species is accurate.
06:28That beavers build an environment that is beneficial to other animals and plants.
06:34And our beaver expert, Emily Fairfax, is just over the moon that people are going to be seeing this movie
06:38and understanding how important beavers really are.
06:42That is fundamentally true.
06:44They don't wear crowns and they don't talk, but, you know, generally, those things you play around with.
06:51No one told me.
06:52Okay.
06:53But they are really good for the environment and they're really good to other animals.
06:57And we should follow their example.
06:59It's a great metaphor for the story we're telling about creating an environment that is good for everyone around you
07:05and the balance that brings.
