00:00And so it was really about a leap of faith to delegate and to mesh our Anglo-Saxon northern culture
00:06with this Central America Latino culture, taking the best of both and seeing what we could do to make this
00:13a company.
00:14Because it's almost like an 80s sitcom. There's always these funny misinterpretations like Three's Company and things that might be
00:20taken out of step.
00:22And so it's very important to make sure you have boundaries, you have target dates, you have accountability.
00:29And if you have these things, it's very easy to have checkpoints to reduce any sort of spillage, a lot
00:36of preventative measures.
00:37And I'm not a genius, Devin. You're the smart guy that went to law school. I would have probably cheated
00:43off you in school.
00:44But the thing is, for me, I realize that if you treat people with empathy and you give them benefits
00:51of the doubt, sometimes there's wiggle room in regards to the labor law.
00:54Well, nothing severe, but if someone's two minutes late, it shouldn't be a deal breaker. You shouldn't fire them for
01:00that.
01:00And so by giving certain second and third chances that I were given growing up and molding, it's enabled me
01:08to preserve certain people so they don't spin out of control.
01:12It's very labor intensive. You invest so much in somebody and the worst thing to have is someone leave you
01:19without any sort of two weeks notice or just something that's unexpected.
01:23And so besides the technical side of it, if you have nobody showing up to work, you have no company.
01:30And so I wanted to ensure that initially I created a certain company culture where people felt like they belonged
01:40and they weren't expendable like some of the larger call centers.
01:43And so that's always been my million dollar bit of advice to get out of your ivory tower offices and
01:50walk your roads and know people's names and, you know, acknowledge the work that they're doing.
01:55And that's putting wind in your sails and that's putting wind in your sails. And that's a good, those are
02:00ones that are budding people and paying it forward so they can grow and become future leaders.
02:06No, I think that's all definitely some great piece of advice and insight as to how to go about growing
02:12now.
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