00:00We're going to talk about NIL, what they're doing in Mississippi, and how you feel about it.
00:05Would you want to see Michigan adopt any of this?
00:08Before that, if you listen to the update here in Detroit, I want to make sure I heard this correctly.
00:14Harrison Barnes was injured during a nap?
00:16He woke up from a nap with left ankle soreness, apparently.
00:21That's why he missed Tuesday's game for them.
00:24First one since 2021.
00:26Never napped so good that you woke up with a sore ankle.
00:30Oh, sure.
00:31Okay.
00:31If you sleep on too short of a couch, and your foot gets caught in a weird position, but the
00:39individuals that they're watching on Saturday, who some of them are going to be making multi-million dollars, aren't going
00:46to pay taxes on that.
00:48Right.
00:48The athlete who got a $4 million NIL deal who can afford to pay state taxes would get the break,
00:56while you, going to break your back at the job site,
00:59I'll make sure it comes out every two weeks.
01:02So the question is, we don't really care what happens in the state of Mississippi, but what would you think
01:09if Michigan went this route?
01:11For those that are going to Michigan, Michigan State, throw in Eastern, Central, any NIL dollars, would you be okay
01:19if those student-athletes, and we can cut out the student, let's go with the athletes,
01:26don't have to pay taxes on their NIL income?
01:30I'd hate this.
01:32You'd hate this.
01:34You're lying if you say otherwise.
01:36Well, Michigan's got to be able to crute like Texas.
01:38Well, I think they'll be okay.
01:41Yeah.
01:43John, is this the difference in getting big-time talent to Indiana, to Michigan?
01:49No, I don't believe it is.
01:51I think this is just a, it's a ploy.
01:55It's a news article.
01:57Yeah.
01:58To try, you know, for a, you know, for one recruiting class, maybe it makes a minor difference, but in
02:05the long haul, no.
02:06And, and what, what, it just continues this separation of athletes are special.
02:13Athletes are a class above.
02:16Everyone else has to pay their taxes, but these guys don't, or girls.
02:21Well, and where does it stop?
02:23Do you want this to help the Lions get better free agents?
02:29No.
02:30No.
02:30I mean, if I have to pay, then so does, I mean, it's just.
02:34Yeah, the special carve out.
02:35There needs to be a special carve out.
02:37That's a great way to put it, for college athletes and certainly not professional athletes.
02:42Right.
02:43Look.
02:44Am I all for abolishing state income tax?
02:48Sure.
02:48Are you going to pay for it one way or another?
02:51But if I get a chance to choose the way that I'm paying that a little bit more so than
02:57paying, you know, state income tax, I'm for that.
03:00But if I have to do it, then so does everyone else.
03:03Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97.
03:05I'm sure this is going to go over well with people driving into work today.
03:08The idea that you would pass a law that says, hey, the 19 year old who can catch a football
03:14or runs a fast 40, he gets five million free and clear, at least at the state level.
03:21But not everybody else.
03:22No, no.
03:22You can't do special carve outs.
03:24If you want to completely separate argument, if you want to make it a statewide deal.
03:29Yeah.
03:29If you want to abolish the Michigan state income tax, it's a completely separate discussion probably happening on a news
03:34talk station.
03:35But but that's separate.
03:36If you want to do a sports carve out, I don't think it makes sense.
03:40No, it seems ridiculous to me.
03:42And it just it does.
03:43It doesn't seem to be for all those that are using their taxable income to buy tickets, to buy merchandise,
03:50to pay for TV and the different ways that you have to pay to view these athletes, that they should
03:58be watching guys that are not having to pay their weight.
04:03You just made me think of it, too.
04:04It's not just the people who pay the tickets.
04:07How about people who've helped fund these NIL players?
04:12Well, they're in a completely different tax bracket, right?
04:15No, but sometimes I don't think they care either.
04:17No, but weren't schools trying to collect donations from people like where the athletes put in.
04:20It didn't catch on, but there was the thought of the QR code to send money to the athlete.
04:24Imagine that you're saying you're in Oklahoma state that put the QR code on the back of their helmets.
04:29Yeah, I'm going to help fund the NIL program that you won't be taxed on for my money that I
04:34work hard for.
04:35It's post-tax dollars.
04:37My post-tax dollars for your pre-tax income as a college athlete.
04:42Wolf.
04:44Let's go to Steve in Bloomfield Hills.
04:46Steve, good morning.
04:48Good morning.
04:49I just wanted to say that with pro athletes, and I don't know if it's common knowledge,
04:54but when they travel to a different state, they have to make out tax forms because they did earnings.
05:00They made earnings in those other states.
05:02Now, if it's going to be the same thing with college football, if you have half your games on the
05:08road,
05:08then that changes the dynamics for a tax-free student-athlete.
05:12Yeah, but so the workaround is that the NIL dollars aren't for playing.
05:20They're not for performance.
05:22They are just simply to use your name, image, and likeness, which is only going to be paid in that
05:28state, correct?
05:31Makes sense.
05:31But, Steve, it is a good no because people might not realize, and, John, obviously, you could speak to it.
05:35You dealt with this as a pro athlete.
05:37You pay taxes if you go play in.
05:39If you guys played the Dallas Cowboys, you didn't pay state taxes for that.
05:42Right, yeah.
05:43That's why when you looked at the schedule, you're like, oh, I've got to play in California.
05:47Well, it's why, think about the AFC.
05:50But California is the place where you want to get hurt.
05:52They've got the best workers' comp laws.
05:55So if you've got a bum ankle and you've got the game coming up with the Niners.
05:58Yeah, hey, get there any which way you can.
06:00And, oh, I got hurt in California.
06:02I was saying the AFC South has the Houston Texans, no state tax.
06:09The Jacksonville Jaguars, no state tax.
06:11And I don't know if Tennessee does.
06:15A what?
06:16Does the state of Tennessee have state taxes?
06:18Income tax?
06:19I don't know.
06:20I don't know that they do either.
06:21I think it's three of the four teams in that division.
06:23So you think about your home games and the games you play, you would think, sure.
06:27But it's not like the AFC South is bringing in all of the great free agents and no one else
06:32can bring anybody in.
06:33The idea that we simply couldn't keep up with the states of Texas and Florida if we have state income
06:39tax is silly.
06:41This is correct.
06:42Anyway, let's get to Rick.
06:43You're next up.
06:43Rick, you're on 97.1.
06:45Hey, good morning, gentlemen.
06:47So what we're saying here is the student athlete who gets a multimillion-dollar contract, also free college, has no
06:56tax to pay.
06:57But the kid who's paying for his own school, going to work at Rick's in East Lansing, has to pay
07:02tax on his stuff.
07:03That just is not right on any level I can think of.
07:07And state tax still wouldn't get Brad Holmes to pull in a free agent.
07:10That's not even going to get him off his home.
07:14Yeah, that's a whole different matter.
07:15But, yeah, I mean, that's a great point, too, is, you know, you get somebody going to Michigan or Michigan
07:21State, they're paying for their tuition.
07:23A lot of them are working to pay for their tuition, and they're paying taxes on that, let alone the
07:29athlete that's on an athletic scholarship, isn't paying for school, is getting paid to be there, yet doesn't have to
07:37pay taxes on his income.
07:39Now picture it where the head coach of the football team is shaking his fist at students going, why aren't
07:44you showing up to games?
07:48Because I don't want to support this.
07:50Yeah.
07:50Because you rubbed me the wrong way, because it's a double standard.
07:53Maybe those are some of the reasons.
07:55And we want to get drunk after halftime.
07:572-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
08:00Take some phone calls and some feedback.
08:02David, you're on 97.1.
08:05Hey, good morning, fellas.
08:06What's up?
08:07So you're talking about dumb injuries.
08:09I got two.
08:10Oh, yeah, go for it.
08:12When I was in the military, we had some downtime, and we were just clowning around.
08:16Clowning around, and my friend, you know, young guys would punch the arms and all that.
08:22This guy punched my arm and totally broke his hand.
08:27How hard he hit you?
08:29Sheesh.
08:29It was pretty hard, but, I mean, it didn't hurt.
08:31I wasn't, like, crying or anything.
08:33He just, like, broke his hand.
08:34It was a freak accident right before deployment.
08:39And the other one, it was, you know, during COVID, I didn't get a haircut for a long time,
08:43so I had pretty long hair, and I was in the shower, and I was trying to dry my hair
08:47off.
08:48And I whipped my hair, you know, like a headbang.
08:51And I gave myself, like, a really small concussion.
08:54Like, I was busy.
08:56Because my hair was, like, really thick and heavy and wet.
09:01What did you hit your head on?
09:02I saw a concussion.
09:02I didn't hit my head on anything.
09:04It was, like, the weight of my hair.
09:06Like, whiplash or something, I think.
09:08I don't know.
09:09Wow.
09:10Slight concussion.
09:11That's crazy.
09:12Heather, you have longer hair than either of us.
09:14Does that even sound possible?
09:15I totally get what he was doing.
09:17Sometimes I do that to give myself volume.
09:19Yeah, but your neck muscles are built up so well since you've had this hair your entire life.
09:24Apparently.
09:25But, no, I can't imagine giving myself a concussion.
09:29Wow.
09:30Wow.
09:31He's whipping his hair back and forth.
09:33Hey, oh, John, don't eat armadillo.
09:35It's gross.
09:36Oh, really?
09:37How'd you prepare it?
09:39Um, I just, they're just gross animals.
09:42I've seen them all the time.
09:43I'm from Kansas.
09:44They're all over the place.
09:45Okay.
09:45They're always dead.
09:46They're just gross.
09:47Don't eat it.
09:48Okay.
09:49All right.
09:49All right.
09:50Bye, guys.
09:51I can ask them how if you had to compare it to something.
09:54Yeah.
09:54I mean, they may look like disgusting animals.
09:56Doesn't mean they can't taste good.
09:58But do they taste good?
09:59Mm-hmm.
10:00Anyway, how did we get off on that tangent?
10:03Oh, it was in the news.
10:04The armadillos.
10:05Dumb injuries, yes.
10:05And dumb injuries.
10:06Yes.
10:07And all kinds of dumb things.
10:09It's 97-1.
10:10Yes.
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