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Will the Red Wings be able to avoid the March collapse again?
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00:12Guys, that's a soul-crushing loss last night.
00:16I don't care what John thinks.
00:17John's a football guy.
00:18I can tell you, playing hockey all my life,
00:20that's a bone-soul-crushing loss last night.
00:24Heart in the dagger of our playoff hopes.
00:28So people are taking last night well.
00:32Okay, but you still have a seven-point lead above the cut line.
00:36I'm not going to sit there and say it's a dagger to the heart.
00:39Soul-crushing, bone-crushing.
00:42Sure, it hurts.
00:43It's a bad loss.
00:44Yeah.
00:44And at this time of year, when things are magnified.
00:46It's so unnecessary.
00:48Unnecessary is a great way to put it.
00:50And if you want to tell us you're different,
00:52don't blow two goal leads in the third period.
00:56Plain and simple.
00:57I thought it was pathetic the way they played at the end of that hockey game.
01:00They were already checked out.
01:02They had already moved on.
01:03They were not trying to score, possess the puck, forecheck.
01:07It was, hey, we're along for the ride.
01:09Just hope Vegas doesn't beat us.
01:10And it's about time the players took ownership of this team
01:15because I've been beating the drub for Todd McClellan.
01:19And a couple of days ago, he called out his team.
01:22They responded.
01:23He shouldn't have to call out his team every other game.
01:26Right.
01:27Right.
01:27Like, take a little bit of ownership as players.
01:30And don't just simply sit there and say,
01:32well, we need to add more at the trade deadline.
01:35We all know that.
01:36We all hope that.
01:37Yeah.
01:37But until that happens,
01:40take care of your own business on the ice.
01:44Guys, you were talking Pistons losing to Cleveland and the impact from the other day.
01:48This loss last night resonates more for the wings and is more worrisome.
01:52Answers that question I asked you earlier in terms of which one was worse.
01:56Pistons have equity, playoff equity.
01:58They're more reliable.
02:00Well, they're in first in their conference.
02:03And they have positioned themselves better.
02:07And obviously, they went to the postseason last year.
02:09Hopefully, they'll capitalize on that and go further this year.
02:11We all think they will.
02:14But the wings, like, they've got to prove that this isn't the first domino that causes the house of cards
02:24to fall down.
02:25Right.
02:26Because I don't believe it's a house of cards.
02:30I want you to be right really bad.
02:33Trade deadline.
02:33Sign three names that I'm going to target, that I'm going to watch for.
02:37You mentioned one of them.
02:38Justin Falk, right-handed shot, St. Louis Blues, second pair blue liner, can play defense, can help generate some offense,
02:45can play all situations.
02:47Signed beyond this year, not a rental.
02:49Iserman should be willing to give up a first.
02:51The truth is, they've got their firsts.
02:55They've got two elite goalie prospects.
02:57And a lot of buyers right now don't have their first.
03:01Right.
03:02So you've got your firsts in perpetuity.
03:04You've got multiple goalie prospects.
03:05You've got prospects that your pool is flush with.
03:11And you've got cap space.
03:12Like, yeah, you've got to be able to do something.
03:14And I'm not suggesting gut them all for Justin Falk.
03:16But my point is, like, you can be competitive in these bidding markets, in these situations where you have to
03:21outbid other teams.
03:22The Red Wings have as much or more as anybody else making these offers.
03:26So, Falk's one name.
03:28Second name would be Roostalainen.
03:30Big ogre of a blue liner.
03:33Is playing the top pair right now in Philly.
03:35Would be the second pair guy here with Sherratt.
03:38You'd have a lot more physicality around the net front with those two.
03:42He can play big minutes, kill penalties.
03:44That physicality that is playoff hockey.
03:46Not a rental this year and next year.
03:49Those are two names.
03:50The third name for me.
03:52Vinny Trocek.
03:53And this texter says, everybody's focused on blue line help.
03:57Team's awful five on five.
03:58They need offense and lots of it.
04:00Matt in a truck.
04:01Well, Vinny Trocek would help you on both ends of the ice.
04:05He's signed well beyond this year.
04:07This is year four of a seven-year deal.
04:10He would instantly be your second line center.
04:12Create the Team USA line with Debrinket and Kane on each side.
04:16And he would play in his own end as a back checker.
04:19He can win face-offs, kill penalties.
04:21He's good defensively.
04:22And yeah, he can drive the second line offensively.
04:25He'd probably be the most expensive of everybody we've discussed.
04:28In terms of what you'd have to give up, but not in terms of his contract.
04:31It's 5.6 million bucks.
04:33It's actually team-friendly moving forward.
04:34And while he has a no-trade clause, he played for the Plymouth Whalers.
04:38He's played hockey in this state.
04:40He has a connection to the area.
04:41He's going to wave, not going to wave his no-trade clause
04:44to go to teams out west.
04:46He's publicly said that, but he can't wave to everywhere.
04:49And this would be a team that's in the playoff mix.
04:51Vinny Trocek would be the third name.
04:52So it's the two blue liners in Trocek.
04:54I'm not getting caught up in Robert Thomas.
04:57I'm not getting caught up in Pettersson, who may be a head case.
05:01And they've got to decide if they're going to defer some of that
05:03or retain some of that money.
05:05Let's just keep it with guys that I think are more than attainable
05:08for Steve Eiserman to make this hockey team better.
05:12248-539-9797.
05:14A lot of great options.
05:15And that's the thing is, you mentioned it yesterday.
05:19Some of those right-shot defensemen are off the board.
05:22But there are still plenty of options, whether it's on defense,
05:25the offensive side of things, guys that are going to be willing
05:28to play the entire ice.
05:30Yeah.
05:31Okay.
05:31Let's talk about some guys that got dealt yesterday,
05:33just so we understand the urgency as this builds up.
05:35Pareko got dealt from the Blues to the Sabres.
05:38Sabres are a playoff team.
05:39They've had a great season.
05:41They're beefing up their blue line.
05:43That's a guy who's physical, played on Team Canada.
05:45Right-shot guy.
05:46Myers is in Dallas.
05:47Myers, who the Wings wanted.
05:48Big body.
05:49I don't know if I loved his game, but they wanted him.
05:51They didn't get him.
05:52He didn't want to come here.
05:53He goes to Dallas.
05:55Weger gets dealt from Calgary to Utah.
05:58Again, second pair right-shot.
06:00And Connor Murphy got dealt from Chicago to Edmonton.
06:03That's four right-shot blue liners off the board in the last day here.
06:08Today's as good a day as any on deadline Eve for Steve to get in on this market
06:11and nail it because the alternative is they play this way in March.
06:17They don't do anything at the deadline.
06:19It's the same thing with the same results.
06:21We won't get playoff hockey.
06:23Yeah.
06:23Well, I mean, it doesn't mean you won't get playoff hockey,
06:25but you can certainly increase your odds.
06:28We talked about it with the Pistons.
06:30We've talked about it with the Lions.
06:31And we talked about it last year with the Tigers.
06:34I don't always want to be waiting to the trade deadline,
06:37but they have that opportunity because that's where they are as a franchise.
06:41They don't have the most talented roster in the business,
06:44but this is an opportunity to get better in this moment
06:47and actually capitalize on an opportunity and start a new run in the postseason.
06:53Tech says, I've seen enough with Talbot.
06:56He's the common denominator.
06:57No bueno.
06:58Brandon in a truck.
06:59John, is it time to maybe get Kosa in there as the number two goalie?
07:02You might consider that,
07:05but you can also consider making the defense in front of him better.
07:08No kidding.
07:10Which is what we'll continue to talk about.
07:13The Gibson thing feels like disaster is avoided.
07:16Didn't play last night, but the report was.
07:18Yeah.
07:19They don't expect extended absence.
07:20If I understand it right,
07:21Kosa would have to have been medically unable to play
07:25to bring in the emergency goalie of.
07:28You're saying Talbot would have to be.
07:29I'm sorry, Talbot.
07:30Yes.
07:30Yeah, it's a good note.
07:33The rule is,
07:34I believe if you call up a goalie under emergency circumstances.
07:37Both have to be medically unable to get in.
07:40For him to play in the game.
07:41But they could just call Kosa up regular.
07:44Sure.
07:44And make him the number two goalie if they were ready.
07:46If you feel like,
07:47Hey, Talbot's 38 long in the tooth.
07:50He doesn't have it.
07:52Gibby's our number one when he's healthy.
07:54And on every third game,
07:56we want to throw Kosa in there.
07:59I mean, it's a consideration.
08:00Got to think about it.
08:022, 4, 8, 5, 3, 9, 97, 97.
08:07Guys, the Pistons or the Red Wings,
08:09neither team will be making any moves that are significant.
08:11If anything, they will be first round at best.
08:13They won't go past the second round.
08:15Wings probably won't even make the playoffs at this point.
08:18And it will fall off as they have terribly.
08:22I don't want to lump the two teams together.
08:24No, because...
08:25I think it's easy to do because they're playing at the same time.
08:28I don't think they're the same teams.
08:30The Pistons have made the playoffs.
08:33The Pistons are the one seed in the East.
08:35The Pistons should absolutely win a playoff series this year.
08:38And we're talking about winning two and three playoff series.
08:41The Wings haven't made the playoffs.
08:44They haven't made the playoffs.
08:45And I still want to make the point.
08:46I don't want the sky to be falling every minute of every day.
08:51Was last night a bad loss?
08:53Absolutely.
08:54But they are closer to the top of their division than they are to being out of the playoffs at
09:00this point.
09:01But they're missing opportunities.
09:03Last night was a perfect opportunity.
09:05They could have been tied for second with Buffalo by just finishing that game with 78 points.
09:11And then it would have only been two points behind Tampa, who's currently on a three-game losing streak.
09:15Right.
09:16And speaking of an opportunity, Friday night, after the deadline, whatever they do or don't do,
09:20they're going to have Florida in town, reigning cup champs who are nowhere near the team they've been.
09:25They've been all kinds of banged up and injured.
09:27They haven't had bark off all year.
09:28And they've dealt with some big high-profile injuries.
09:30Stick a fork in them.
09:32You know, like, and I hate the yo-yoing like you've heard the stat.
09:36They've picked up up at least a point.
09:39Yeah.
09:40And every other game.
09:41Yes.
09:41Since like December, late November.
09:44But stop yo-yoing like win three or four in a row here.
09:46And then we can all just.
09:48Well, they had that chance where they could have gone, you know, back-to-back with four points.
09:53Instead, they'd only come away with three.
09:55Yeah.
09:56But like the Panthers, I think they're running out of time to make a run.
09:59I mean, they're not.
10:01Yeah.
10:01But stick a fork in them.
10:03Make sure that that's.
10:04Dead and buried.
10:05Yeah, dead and buried.
10:06One less team to worry about.
10:07You pick up a nice win on Friday night.
10:09Don't be the reason that people say, oh, look out.
10:13Here come the Panthers.
10:14Right.
10:15Book a sleeping giant down the stretch.
10:17Yeah, I don't need to hear that.
10:18As tough as the Atlantic Division's been already.
10:20Don't let the Panthers get hot.
10:24You proud of yourself?
10:26You happy about that one?
10:27I just wanted to see your reaction.
10:28And it stopped you in your tracks.
10:30Yes, I am.
10:31I didn't even connect these dots.
10:33So think about it.
10:33As much of a bitch as the Atlantic Division has been, it's been this tough without the
10:38Florida Panthers.
10:39Don't let them be part of the problem.
10:41Anyway, 248-539-9797.
10:45We're going to talk about the Lions coming up at 835.
10:47A big deal in the NFL yesterday has this feeling some type of way.
10:51It's 97-1.
10:52We're going to talk about the Lions coming up at 935.
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