00:00And I'd like to start Dipper and Lowys by dispelling some of the myths and thanking NHS staff and everybody
00:06that works within our NHS for the immense work that they do.
00:11And we're often criticised of we're doing down Wales, we're doing down the NHS. No, quite the opposite. We want
00:17Wales and the NHS to be better than it is.
00:20We want ambition to see it improve, not do it down and always focus on the negatives.
00:25The problem is the only thing that we can ever focus on is because there are so many of them,
00:30Dipper and Lowys, are negatives.
00:32We're at the bottom of every league table, be that in the NHS, in education and in the economy.
00:37But I don't think Wales has an NHS anymore. It has seven health boards doing things differently, each one doing
00:44things on its own accord.
00:46And the Cabinet Secretary and previous Cabinet Secretaries have always highlighted that it's up to health boards to deliver the
00:52services.
00:52We are the ones just providing the policy framework in which they deliver it.
00:57I think that's nonsense now. I think it's become quite apparent that the system in which the NHS is being
01:03redistributed under 27 years of Labour rule is just quite frankly bureaucratic and messy.
01:12Because where does the accountability lie? And a gentleman has sent an FOI in that he's CC'd myself and my
01:18colleague Paul Davison on, asking how on earth do we get rid of those who are serving in our NHS
01:25health boards, who are leading those health boards?
01:27Because there's no accountability there.
01:29You then come to an election time and you vote for a government that you want in power and that
01:34winning party then puts a Cabinet Secretary for Health in.
01:36And then they stand up and say, well, it's not up for us. It's the health boards who deliver the
01:40services.
01:41And that brings me to the pertinent point as to what's happening in West Wales at the moment with the
01:45redistribution.
01:46No, sorry, not redistribution. The centralisation of services away from Brongleis and once again away from Withybush Hospital.
01:55And like every family in Pembrokeshire, I have a link with Withybush Hospital.
02:00I was born there, my brother was born there, both my grandparents passed away there and that hospital has kept
02:05my mother and father alive.
02:07So I owe a debt of gratitude to that hospital and I will never be patronised by a First Minister
02:13or told that I'm spreading mistruths or being whatever the word she used to describe it.
02:20When we're scaremongering, when we're standing up for the constituents, the very same constituents that she too was elected to
02:28represent.
02:29And the irony of them announcing these brand new facilities in North Wales and at the same breath saying bringing
02:36services closer to the communities,
02:38when only days earlier, Huel Thar were talking about centralising services away from communities into a hospital that is no
02:46longer fit for purpose at Glangwylley.
02:48And I know Glangwylley, it's in my constituency. It's old, it's outdated, it's overcrowded and it's just not fit for
02:54purpose in the system that it's in.
02:56So why is it that this health board has been given carte blanche by this government, by a Cabinet Secretary
03:02for Health,
03:02to proceed with a policy of centralisation of services into a hospital no longer fit for purpose?
03:08Where does the accountability lie? That is a question that no one has an answer for.
03:12And I'm so frustrated, once again, that when we have NHS debates, it's used as a political football back and
03:19forth.
03:19Yes, we know we're in election season. I think Lloyd Warburton is counting down on Twitter how many days there
03:24are to go.
03:2571 days to go.
03:26People are fed up now of politics and NHS being used as a political football because, as we've said, it's
03:32life and death, Dawn.
03:34This is life and death. The Minister's laughing here. The Minister is laughing. The Minister is laughing on a point
03:42of life and death.
03:43And this is what's so frustrating.
03:46I came into this place in 2021 thinking, do you know what, if a good idea is a good idea,
03:52perhaps in a small centre of only 60,
03:55it might be picked up and said, do you know what, actually that's a good idea and we can progress
03:59that.
03:59We, in our 2021 manifesto, had surgical hubs as a manifesto commitment.
04:04Marbon stood up earlier and said, they've got a brand new idea of surgical hubs.
04:08We had that in 2021.
04:09Why did it take so long for this government to introduce surgical hubs when they were brought forward by a
04:16UK Conservative government
04:17to get rid of the backlog after the pandemic?
04:20A good idea is a good idea regardless of where it comes from.
04:23Absolutely right.
04:23So why don't we focus on good ideas rather than the politic of it?
04:27Because at the end of the day, this is people's livelihoods, life and death,
04:32and families are now fed up of all this back and forth.
04:35Thank you, Diprin.
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