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00:00You agreed to let him borrow the car?
00:03Yes.
00:04And you told him the car?
00:05He gave me the car.
00:06He gave it to you as a gift?
00:07Yes.
00:08Not that I'm aware of, Your Honor.
00:10You tell me, where does it say that he gave you the car?
00:13It doesn't.
00:14Ja.
00:15This is Judy Justice.
00:35Daniel Drust is suing his former friend, Timothy DeHorris, for the cost of a car and towing fees after Timothy
00:43crashed the vehicle.
00:45Court come to order.
00:45All rise.
00:47Have a seat, please.
00:51Judge case 4053, Drust v. DeHorris.
00:54You're welcome.
00:55Mr. Drust, am I correct that you met the defendant on a dating site?
01:00That's correct, Your Honor.
01:02When?
01:02This would have been in late 2023.
01:05November, December?
01:06I'd say about November.
01:07And at some point, you remained friends.
01:11Yes.
01:11Is what I gather.
01:13And at some point, you had a second car that you weren't using.
01:17That is a 2007 Honda Civic.
01:20Would you take a look at that, Sarah?
01:22Okay.
01:23Now, you drove a Tesla.
01:25According to you, the defendant wanted to borrow that car to get to and from work, whatever.
01:33And you agreed to let him borrow the car.
01:36Yes, ma'am.
01:37What month and year did you allow him to borrow the car?
01:40That would have been in March of 24, Your Honor.
01:43We had that agreement.
01:44And I assume you also say that you inherited this car from your mother.
01:48Oh, yes.
01:48It was given to me by my mother.
01:50So it was a gift from your mother.
01:51Correct.
01:51When did she give it to you?
01:53May of 2022, Your Honor.
01:55Why?
01:56She was being nice to me.
01:58Did you have a car in May of 22?
02:00Yes.
02:01So she gave you this as a second car?
02:03That's correct.
02:03What did you do with it?
02:05I drove it occasionally.
02:06I mostly kept it as a backup vehicle for my delivery business.
02:10It was insured?
02:11It was, Your Honor.
02:12Liability only.
02:13It had liability insurance and you had an accident.
02:16Mr. DeHorris?
02:18Yes.
02:18You had an accident.
02:20I totaled the car.
02:21You had an accident.
02:23You didn't do it on purpose, did you?
02:24No.
02:25So it was an accident.
02:26Yes.
02:26In what month and year?
02:28The same month, March 2024.
02:30Tell me about the accident.
02:32At the time, I had just started my second job.
02:34So I was doing onboarding that night and...
02:37Slowly and clearly so I can hear you.
02:39Yes.
02:39Started your second job.
02:41You were onboarding?
02:42Yes.
02:43What does that mean?
02:43So they were just telling me about the job and doing some training videos with me.
02:48And then that same night, I went to do some errands before going home.
02:51What time?
02:52I want to say around 10 p.m.
02:53Go ahead.
02:54Then around midnight on the way home, I had fallen asleep behind the wheel at a stop sign
02:59and woke up to me driving into a ditch on the side of a road and crashed into a pole.
03:05Okay.
03:05And whose fault was that, that you fell asleep behind the wheel?
03:08Mine.
03:09Okay.
03:09And you totaled the car?
03:11Yes.
03:11That's what you're here for?
03:13Yes, ma'am.
03:13You want the book value of the car?
03:16Yes, Your Honor.
03:16Okay.
03:18And Mr. DeHorris, I assume your defense is, is what you indicate in the papers, is that
03:25he wasn't letting you borrow the car, he gave it to you as a gift?
03:29Yes, he gave me the car.
03:30Okay.
03:30So the burden is now shifting to you, Mr. DeHorris.
03:34Now we understand that you had possession of the car, you were negligent with the car,
03:39you destroyed the car.
03:41He says he let you borrow the car to go to work.
03:43You show me where he gave you the car.
03:52And when you find what you want to show me, circle it.
03:55Okay.
03:56Kevin will give you a pen to circle where it is that he told you that he was making a
04:02gift
04:02to you of this car.
04:10Because you understand, Mr. DeHorris, if you made a gift to him, then it's his car,
04:14whether he transferred or not.
04:15You would agree with that?
04:16I understand that, Your Honor.
04:18But...
04:18You would agree with that?
04:19I would agree.
04:20Let's see.
04:26Where does this say that he gave you the car?
04:28Um, when he...
04:30I just want you to read.
04:32There's nothing that I read that he gave you the car.
04:35I want you to read to me what it is here that you think says,
04:39I'm making a gift to you of this car.
04:47I'm sorry, it's this paper.
04:49Do you want me to just read it out to you?
04:51Just take a pen, circle it.
05:08I want you to read this whole thing out loud to me.
05:11Okay.
05:12So that Whitney can take it down.
05:14This is what you say you allege is the backup evidence
05:19for the fact that he gave you the car as a gift?
05:23Return this and have him read it out loud.
05:30Well, Daniel stated,
05:32Well, I can tell you're in a bad situation right now,
05:34so I don't mind...
05:35You were in a bad situation because you didn't have a car?
05:38Yes.
05:39And so I can tell you're in a bad situation.
05:41Go ahead.
05:42Let's put a time limit on it, though.
05:44Let's do this for a week,
05:45and then we will either work out a different arrangement financially,
05:48or I'll just take it back.
05:49Well, so you tell me.
05:51Where does it say that he gave you the car?
05:56Nobody gets a ticket because they had an accident.
05:59They get a ticket because they were driving while intoxicated,
06:04driving while impaired.
06:05What did it say on your ticket?
06:07And later today...
06:08Can I also just say that...
06:10No.
06:11Can't say anything.
06:12I'm gonna do this with numbers.
06:14You didn't make payments for two months.
06:16He had every right to repossess the car.
06:27Daniel Drust claims his former friend, Timothy DeHorris,
06:32fell asleep at the wheel and totaled his Honda Civic.
06:36Tell me what word that you just read to me suggests that he gave you the car.
06:44It doesn't.
06:45Duh.
06:49Anything else?
06:52What's the value of the Honda?
06:54Between $3,600 and $5,000.
06:57Okay.
06:58Anything else?
06:59Anybody wanna tell me?
07:00I believe the car should be worth less,
07:02just because there was also issues with the car prior to me...
07:06A what?
07:07There was also issues with the car prior to me retrieving the car.
07:10What issue?
07:11Whenever I would drive it to work or need to go home,
07:14I would have to have somebody jump the car,
07:16so there was problems with the battery, and then...
07:18And, well, the car is worth, at minimum, $3,600.
07:22Maximum, $5,000.
07:24He damaged the car.
07:25I'm gonna give him the minimum.
07:26Clearly, he got the car as a gift.
07:29He let you have it.
07:30There were some minor issues with the car,
07:31but that doesn't diminish the fact that wherever you went to do your errands,
07:36errands after errands, after work, whatever it was,
07:41it was so either exhausting or inebriating that you fell asleep at the wheel.
07:46Anybody have a police report?
07:48I do, Your Honor.
07:49I'd like to take a look at it.
07:51Did you get a summons?
07:53Yes.
07:53Yes. And what was the summons for?
07:55A traffic ticket.
07:56A traffic ticket for what?
07:59For crashing the car.
08:00It doesn't say for crashing the car.
08:01You don't get a ticket for an accident.
08:03You get a ticket if you did something wrong.
08:05Mr. DeHorris, you get a ticket for doing something wrong.
08:09Yes, Your Honor.
08:10Nobody gets a ticket because they had an accident.
08:13They get a ticket because they were driving while intoxicated,
08:17driving while impaired.
08:19They get a ticket if they pass a red light.
08:22You get a ticket if you were speeding and had an accident.
08:25Do you understand?
08:26Yes.
08:27What did it say on your ticket?
08:29Um.
08:31Um is not an answer, Mr. DeHorris.
08:33Failure to maintain a single lane.
08:35What?
08:36I just have the police report.
08:38I don't have the ticket with me.
08:45Okay, so they saw no evidence of intoxication.
08:50That's a good thing for you.
08:51You had liability insurance.
08:54Did the homeowner sue you?
08:56Not that I'm aware of, Your Honor.
08:58Why not?
08:59I don't know.
09:01Because Arthur made contact with the homeowner
09:04who advised that she believes the gate which he struck
09:08is worth $5,000.
09:10Who was your insurance carrier?
09:12It was Progressive Insurance.
09:13You have any information from Progressive?
09:15To my knowledge, the homeowner has not filed a claim.
09:18That's not my question, sir.
09:20I do have proof of insurance from the public.
09:22I'd like to see that.
09:34Okay.
09:35Very good.
09:36You said $3,600?
09:37$3,600 to $5,000 is the range for a private party sale.
09:41Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $3,600.
09:44Thank you very much.
09:45We're finished.
09:45It's quarterback, Judge.
09:49I think she's wrong in her decision.
09:51Judge saw through the lie that the defendant attempted to say
09:54that I gave him the vehicle and she saw the truth
09:57and gave me what I'm owed.
09:59I feel like it was more on Daniel's fault than mine.
10:02We spoke before the case and we're on mostly good terms
10:05but I don't think we'll be close again.
10:08He was very upset about it.
10:11Well, that's interesting because now if we had a loyal viewer
10:16in the woman whose gate was destroyed by that car,
10:20when he totaled the car by driving it into a ditch and a fence,
10:26she'll know who to sue.
10:27Yeah, and she'll know she has a legit claim.
10:29Right.
10:31Case 4062, Dinehart versus Gobo.
10:34All parties, please come forward.
10:35Kyle Dinehart is suing his ex-girlfriend Tammy Goble
10:40for an unpaid car loan and towing fees.
10:44Evidently, you don't listen or watch
10:48because you're never supposed to co-sign a loan for anybody.
10:53So this is what the case is about
10:54and we're going to have to figure out how to resolve it almost equitably.
10:59You used to be a couple.
11:01According to your complaint about three years ago,
11:04you loan the defendant $10,000 as a down payment to buy a used car.
11:09The loan on the car, as well as the title, are in both your names so far correct?
11:15Correct.
11:16Then you broke up and you broke up shortly thereafter,
11:19maybe in 2021. Is that right?
11:21Correct.
11:22And since 2021, you've had the car.
11:25Yes.
11:25And you've made payments on the car with the exception of two months,
11:29according to you.
11:30Two months, you didn't make payments on the car.
11:33The plaintiff was notified by the bank that the car was in default.
11:39Two months, he repossessed the car.
11:41He now has, he says, a buyer for the car,
11:45but he needs you to sign off on it so he can sell it
11:48and pay off the loan on the car as well as the loan to him, I assume.
11:53Is that right?
11:53I've since paid off the car.
11:56You've paid off the car in total?
11:57Just recently, yes.
11:59Okay.
11:59So let's try to figure this out because it's all a matter of numbers
12:03and as everyone who watches me knows, I'm very bad with numbers.
12:08I'm good with social interaction, but numbers are not my thing.
12:13So the car was $21,000, correct?
12:16Yep.
12:16You repossessed the car in February of this year?
12:20Correct.
12:21February of 2024.
12:23You didn't make the payments for December and January.
12:26That's incorrect.
12:27I did make it for December.
12:29It was January that I missed and...
12:32I thought you said you didn't make the payments for two months.
12:35I was late February.
12:37It was January and February that were not made.
12:41Correct.
12:41Was it longer than those two months?
12:43It was two months in arrears when I repossessed.
12:46Okay.
12:46Two months.
12:46Yep.
12:47So it was two months.
12:48Can I also just say that...
12:50No.
12:51Can't say anything.
12:52I'm going to do this with numbers.
12:54Okay.
12:54You didn't make payments for two months.
12:56He had every right to repossess the car, to cut his losses.
12:59What you should have done over the period of time, Ms. Goval, is to refinance the car,
13:05say to him, you're off this, pay him off whatever you owed him, and finished.
13:10You're no longer a couple.
13:14You're really not out any money.
13:16Because you couldn't have had a car for any less than what you spent for this car,
13:21which is $216 a month for three years.
13:24And now he's got to get rid of it.
13:34Kyle Dinehart has accused his ex-girlfriend, Tammy Goebel, of owing for an unpaid car loan and towing fees.
13:43Tammy is countersuing Kyle, claiming he is wrongfully keeping her vehicle.
13:48It's unreasonable to ask him to be responsible for the car, to the bank, responsible if you have an accident,
13:56doesn't know whether you keep insurance, doesn't know any of those things, and his name is on it as a
14:01libel person.
14:01So how do we figure it out?
14:03How much did you pay off on the car?
14:06It was around $22,000.
14:08I can look it up quick.
14:08No, look it up completely.
14:11I thought the whole car was $21,000.
14:13The final payment was $2,247.
14:17$2,000?
14:17$2,247.30.
14:21So if that's the final payout, and that includes the two months that you made current?
14:27No, no, that was in addition to the three months, and then I made payments on it for the six
14:31months between.
14:33From February till, I just paid it off in October, this month.
14:37So that's the whole amount?
14:38That's $2,247 that was paid off, that you paid?
14:43The final payment, yes.
14:44I want to know what you paid on the car that you can prove to me from February 2024 until...
14:51Don't you give me a whole bunch of papers.
14:52Okay.
14:53I asked you for a figure.
14:54It was $216 a month for the six months between March and October, plus the $22,47, $30 in October.
15:03Did you have the car?
15:05I had the car from the end of February until...
15:09Okay.
15:09Now.
15:10Just a second.
15:11You had the car?
15:12I have the car, yes.
15:13You have the car.
15:14Yes.
15:14What were you doing with it?
15:15I lent it to a friend to drive and...
15:18Oh, well, then you pay for that.
15:20I'm not going after the payments I made on it.
15:22Just a second.
15:22Then you pay for that.
15:23You had the car, you pay for it.
15:25Right.
15:26So you paid off $2,247.
15:29Right.
15:29Okay.
15:31So that's what it cost you, the whole thing.
15:34Right.
15:35But now I have the car and I cannot sell it because the lien release would go to the defendant
15:39and she needs to sign off on the title for me to be able to be rid of that responsibility
15:45of the car.
15:46So, Ms. Coble, we're now in October of 2024.
15:51Do you work?
15:52Yes.
15:53What kind of work do you do?
15:54I am the assistant general manager.
15:56And how do you get to work?
15:58Right now?
15:59No.
15:59How do you get to...
16:01How do you get to work?
16:02Let's not play.
16:03In a car.
16:04Your car.
16:05What kind of a car?
16:07It is a Chrysler convertible.
16:09From whom did you purchase it?
16:11It is my late father's.
16:13When did you inherit it from him?
16:15Right after Mr. Dienhart took my car.
16:18Oh, so you have a car.
16:20And what year car is it?
16:22The car I'm driving now?
16:23Yes.
16:242004.
16:25And you had the car from February of 2021, right?
16:31February of 2021.
16:33Your Honor.
16:33We bought the car in August.
16:35Yes.
16:35That's correct.
16:36Of 2021?
16:37Yes.
16:37And he repossessed the car in February of 2024.
16:42Correct.
16:43So you had the car about three years.
16:45Mm-hmm.
16:45And how much did you invest in the car?
16:48You paid $216 a month.
16:51Yes, and I do have...
16:52Just a sec.
16:53$216 a month for the three years.
16:55Yes.
16:56That's your total investment in the car.
16:58I do have the receipts of being fixed.
17:02I don't care about being fixed.
17:03You had a car for $216 a month.
17:07Yes.
17:08That was your investment in the car.
17:10Correct.
17:11Right.
17:11Not any more.
17:13Not any less.
17:16$216 a month.
17:17Yes.
17:18Right?
17:18Yes.
17:18You signed the title over to him.
17:20Get the title.
17:22Ms. Goble.
17:23Ms. Goble, let's not be unconscionable.
17:25You seem like a reasonable lady.
17:27You can't rent a car for $216 a month.
17:30Any car.
17:31You had a car, $216 a month, that's your rental.
17:35You now have a car.
17:36He needs to sell this car to get out from under the payments that he made, and also the money
17:41that he advanced.
17:43The money that he advanced towards the down payment.
17:46Yes.
17:46Which we're not talking about.
17:47So now, listen to me, sir.
17:49You now have the title, and you say you have a buyer.
17:52I do.
17:52Great.
17:53I mean, as far as the money I had to invest to repossess the car and to repeat it.
17:58Right.
17:59That'll be a good lesson.
18:02Absolutely.
18:03That'll be a good lesson.
18:03Can I just say, he has sold my dad's minivan, he has sold all my stuff and kept the money
18:10to put towards this $10,000 that he said that he owed me.
18:15What I'm telling you is, your issue, monetarily, is you drove a car for three years for $200
18:20a month.
18:21Yes.
18:22$216 a month.
18:23That's not unreasonable.
18:24Right now, somebody has to get rid of this car, or not.
18:28But you chalk it up to, I had a car that I liked, that I drove for $200 a month.
18:37That's all I invested in it.
18:39I could have got the car on my own.
18:40I didn't need him.
18:41I didn't ask for him.
18:42Just a second.
18:43Whether you did or whether you did, just give him the title.
18:47Now you have the title.
18:49You're welcome.
18:49Now you have the title.
18:51You're not out any money.
18:52You're really not out any money.
18:54Because you couldn't have had a car for any less than what you spent for this car,
18:59which is $216 a month for three years.
19:02And now he's got to get rid of it.
19:03And you fell behind in your payment.
19:05It's not unreasonable for him to take it.
19:06Get it off.
19:07He's paid off the loan.
19:09Finished.
19:09You're done.
19:11And fortunately or unfortunately, you managed to get a car just at the right time.
19:16So you have a car to drive.
19:17All right.
19:18We're done here.
19:18Thank you very much.
19:19Your Honor, one more point of clarification.
19:21If she receives the lien release, I would like a judgment for her to surrender that to me so I
19:27can sell it.
19:28It's not just the title, but I have to have the lien release from the bank to prove that it
19:31doesn't have a lien on it.
19:33She'll sign it.
19:34Okay.
19:35She'll sign it.
19:36She wants this over with.
19:38Where do you come from?
19:39What jurisdiction?
19:40Minnesota.
19:41Minnesota.
19:42Yep.
19:42Well, we'll just hold on to what we have to hold on to until that's signed.
19:47Understood?
19:47Yes.
19:47Very good.
19:49This court is adjourned.
19:54I think it was fair.
19:56It just, it's a lesson in who to trust with money and who not to.
19:59I tried to text him and send an email telling him that I was out on a medical leave.
20:05If she wanted to work with me on it, I think we could have maybe found a solution.
20:09I think it's a personal vendetta.
20:11I have no less than 12 late payment notices on this loan currently.
20:16I've been with him long enough and know how he is.
20:18I'm glad it's over.
20:19At least this is done and over with.
20:23Don't cosign a loan for anybody.
20:30Have you been cheated?
20:32Go to JudyJustice.TV.
20:34Hey, God.
20:35Do not come.
20:53Hannity.
20:58Anybody can slow down.
21:00Good.
21:01We'll find you louder.
21:01Hit me.
21:02I'll run.
21:03Not only.
21:04We'll be right back to James.
21:04Morrison did.
21:04We're from Fighting.
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