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00:04I know hard to believe this is not AI. Good evening everyone. So Jasmine Crockett's campaign
00:12reportedly once called the police on a CNN reporter. It took them hours however because
00:18nobody knew the number for 911. It's silly. The democratic lawmaker in Minnesota this one
00:29claims porn sites could be educational for queer children. Also educational telling children this is
00:36not a woman. All right. In your face. A company that makes sex toys for men revealed that hackers
00:48stole the names emails and past order details of customers. You know this is a great opportunity
00:55to remind you how common a name Greg Gutfeld is.
01:02A Los Angeles TV station KTLA fired a veteran veteran reporter on her 40th birthday.
01:11We'd show you her picture but she's 40. Oh.
01:16It's a rule. FCC says you can't show women over 40. Look it up.
01:23In related news Rosie O'Donnell's daughter Chelsea has been accused of assault after
01:28touching a man's genitals. She apparently never learned boundaries growing up watching farmers
01:34milk her. Three Chinese astronauts were stranded on a space station. A fourth astronaut finally arrived
01:50just to slide a menu under the door. I don't get it. Of course I get it. I think I
01:57wrote it.
01:57Star Trek now has its first gay Klingon and he says he has no fear of entering black holes.
02:10In Pittsburgh a Denny's employee exposed himself in front of a group of women diners
02:15who were horrified since they'd ordered bacon instead of sausage.
02:23Actress Amanda Seyfried revealed that during the making of her new movie she wore a prosthetic anus.
02:32She said the fake body part isn't visible in the movie but used it just in case.
02:37Still this is striking fear in Hollywood because it may put real assholes out of work.
02:50And finally, today is National Chili Day. How do we know?
03:03It's so highbrow here.
03:06All right now we're gonna get serious.
03:08In California, a land where it takes six years to get a permit to build a shed,
03:14the parole board just decided to release a man serving life in prison.
03:19Actually, three life sentences for 16 counts of kidnapping and child molestation.
03:25But now, apparently, life is just a word on a cereal box.
03:29It used to be the term judges use to send an unmistakable message.
03:33You did something so vile, so predatory, so permanently destructive,
03:37that society is done negotiating with you.
03:41And you should spend the rest of your life in a cage where your ass will take on the role
03:46of an oil well on land, man.
03:51It's not about rehabilitation, it's about punishment and protecting other people.
03:56It's the same reason I oppose the parole of Martha Stewart.
03:59She'll just go on breaking men's hearts.
04:02But in California, life now means, well, until someone far removed from the crimes decides when a monster is too
04:09old to rape and releases them.
04:12But you can bet, not in the parole board's neighborhood.
04:16This case involves a convicted pedophile serving life, being granted elderly.
04:21Hey, what's the worst he could do, right?
04:23I mean, it's not like elderly people have ever done anything wrong before.
04:30But this is what passes for criminal justice reform.
04:33They don't revisit the magnitude of harm.
04:35They don't re-weigh the consequences and punishment.
04:38Who cares?
04:39The calculus is simple.
04:41He's probably too old to get a boner.
04:44And, you know, the kids could probably outrun him now.
04:47That's reform, California style.
04:49Not a glitch, but a mindset and another way to prove that they're all so enlightened.
04:54It's now someone who didn't see the victims, didn't hear the testimony or sit through the horror,
05:00who can decide decades later that the scum has aged out of his depravity.
05:04Which means pedophiles now have a retirement plan.
05:07Do your thing until you get caught.
05:09Serve some time.
05:10Then you're out and just hope that they don't have grandkids.
05:13By this logic, you can let anyone out as long as they have the senior discount.
05:18Serial rapist.
05:19Hell, if he's wearing orthopedic shoes, he's probably mellowed into harmlessness.
05:23So what message does that send to the truly evil?
05:26That even 400 years for raping kids is just a number.
05:30All you have to do is live long enough.
05:33Stay hydrated.
05:34Do your crossword puzzles.
05:36Keep your blood pressure down.
05:37Don't get a bunch of COVID vaccines and take plenty of balance of nature.
05:42It's the same thing doctors tell Brit Hume.
05:47Then one day, bureaucrats will come to your rescue.
05:51And as for the victims, the families who sat in courtrooms and were
05:55told or rather promised that this man would never walk again free.
06:00Imagine enduring the trial, reliving the horror on the stand,
06:03rebuilding your life around the one solid thing the system gave you, permanence.
06:08The promise of being rid of this predator forever.
06:11And then they pull the rug right out from under you.
06:14Not because the evidence changed or that he was innocent
06:17or that the sentence was unlawful.
06:19It's just that he qualifies for social security.
06:22At least that's going bankrupt.
06:24So once again, you see lives don't believe in consequence.
06:28Their God is process.
06:29Their devil is reality.
06:31They look at elderly parole as progress and paperwork.
06:34But it's abandonment of victims, of promises, of moral clarity.
06:38And once criminals realize that even the harshest sentence is just a waiting game,
06:42what deterrent is left.
06:44Justice now has an expiration date.
06:47And the only people who never get parole from their punishment are the victims.
06:56Tonight's guest.
06:58He likes to take selfies during prostate exams.
07:02Chief medical officer at the wellness company, Dr. Drew Pinsky.
07:08After watching men compete, she now wants a Senate seat.
07:12GOP, Minnesota State Senate.
07:17He's so hot, I can't believe his last name isn't Gutfeld.
07:21After and host of David King of Israel,
07:23Zachary Levy.
07:28And your kid has already scheduled an interview with foster parents.
07:31New York Times bestselling author, Fox News contributor, catch him.
07:39Dr. Drew, you know what kills me about this whole story?
07:41So I wrote that.
07:42And then I found out later that they've already lowered the requirements in this new thing.
07:48It was like you're 60 and you serve 25 years.
07:51You're eligible in just three years.
07:53It's now 50.
07:55Right.
07:55And you only serve 20.
07:57What's what's it going to be next?
07:59Like you're 30.
08:00Right.
08:00And first of all, 50 and 60 old enough to get a boner.
08:03Yes.
08:04As you pointed out.
08:05And you've proved that many times.
08:07I'm 16, 17 years older than that.
08:10Sending me those pictures.
08:13Just responding to the ones that you sent.
08:16But this time we do it in California.
08:18We don't like the test scores.
08:19Let's not take tests.
08:20Let's not.
08:20No more tests.
08:21We don't like putting people away for life.
08:23I'm sorry.
08:24The prisons are overcrowded.
08:26Let's send them all home.
08:27Yes.
08:27That's it.
08:27They don't take reality into consideration.
08:31But their reality is they create a new metric where the prisons are less crowded.
08:35Yeah.
08:35But they don't place that in the context of what the consequences are.
08:39Ever.
08:40Ever.
08:40Ever.
08:40It's amazing.
08:41And Gavin Newsom is against it.
08:43But get this, Michelle.
08:44There's nothing he can do about it.
08:45I wish I could.
08:46It's like the fires.
08:47It's like everything.
08:48It's like, oh, this just happened to me.
08:50I didn't do anything.
08:51It's yeah.
08:53Right.
08:54You know, it's interesting.
08:55In 1947, California became the first state to have a sex offenders list.
09:00It wasn't for all sex offenders, but that was California in its in its golden era.
09:05Now, as you've said, so these kids were seven and under when their lives were broken.
09:12This is, by the way, is not a habit that you get over.
09:15Yeah, right.
09:16This guy is going to go.
09:18Yeah, of course.
09:19I mean, 60 is nothing.
09:2060 is the new 40, by the way.
09:22Yes.
09:22I tell myself that you keep telling yourself that.
09:25So as you said, the families and these little children, these babies went through this, sat
09:32through court.
09:33A jury of his peers found him guilty.
09:34A judge administered a three life sentence in prison.
09:39And then this this unelected list of bureaucrats comes along and says, you know what?
09:45We need to empty our prison.
09:46So we'll we'll we'll let this guy go.
09:47And in the meantime, the only one serving the life sentence are these kids.
09:52Yeah.
09:52By the way, the life sentence was supposed to substitute for terminating his life.
09:57Yes.
09:57It was supposed to be that was supposed to be the compassionate alternative was not frying
10:02him, but just getting him out of the public, Zachary.
10:04And then what it really has done is it it has given him a reprieve and shifted it over to
10:11the victims who now know he's out.
10:13Yeah.
10:14Yeah.
10:15The whole thing to me is just full of sadness.
10:18I wish I had anything witty or funny to say.
10:21Obviously, you know, we we try to make life leave.
10:25But the reality is, I mean, you know, I really do believe in Dr. Drew.
10:29You can weigh in on this.
10:30You know so much about the human psyche.
10:31But I mean, you know, the saying of broken people, broken people are bird people,
10:35people hurt people.
10:36Thank you for saving me there.
10:38And and this man, you know, like, and this is not I'm not trying to say anything or,
10:42you know, being devil's advocate.
10:44But I can only imagine that that guy was probably sexually abused or abused on some level or
10:48sure early when he was for sure.
10:49And that trauma generational trauma that carries on and is now destroyed these girls lives.
10:55And hopefully through prayer and support in their in their communities
10:59and the little bit of justice that they were given in this that they can they can build some
11:03of that back.
11:03But I think that our entire the prison systems, the judicial system needs a massive overhaul,
11:09particularly in California.
11:10It is so backwards and it is so broken.
11:12And I I feel bad for them, honestly.
11:15Yeah.
11:16You know, I always feel like that we're like lab rats in a crazy experiment,
11:21you know, concocted by these kind of progressive bureaucrats.
11:25But they're not even watching the experiment.
11:27They're like, they're going, let's see what this, what we'll let these people out.
11:31But then they don't see where it goes.
11:33What happens?
11:34Yeah, I feel like they could have tried a lot of other things before.
11:37Or let the child rapist out.
11:40Yes, exactly.
11:41Like sit like sitting on sitting on each other's laps.
11:45Yes.
11:45There's not enough room.
11:47Yeah.
11:47Like, like, I think, you know, but how do we get there?
11:51Yeah.
11:51And it's it's not the average person, whether you're conservative or liberal.
11:58It's these people.
12:00It's a very small percentage of people that have way too much influence because I think
12:05that they're like they are a lot of them in California where they like they try to like
12:08outlive each other.
12:10Yeah.
12:10Where it's like they're so afraid of like they there had to be people who I'm assuming
12:15it was a room of people making this decision that were like, yo, this is nuts.
12:18But they were too worried to be like, oh, this is not sensitive to this part.
12:23Like there's some kind of suicidal empathy, but it but the fact that it's affecting policy
12:31is insane.
12:32It never did.
12:33It's it really is because it is no, but nobody actually wants this maybe except for this guy
12:40who rapes kids.
12:41Yes.
12:41He definitely wants it.
12:42I just want to ask, you know, you said hurt people hurt people.
12:45Not all hurt people hurt people like his victims.
12:49No, this is the point.
12:49Charlie Hurt never hurt anybody.
12:51Exactly, but Zach is bringing up a terrible conundrum.
12:54It's that the children who for whom we're dying for today become the perpetrators.
12:58And when they perpetrate, they don't do it one on one.
13:01They get dozens or hundreds.
13:02And so it exponentially grows and it has to be intervened upon aggressively and early.
13:07And some are not treatable and need to be separated from the rest of us.
13:11All right.
13:12We got to move on.
13:13I don't have enough pedophile jokes to go around.
13:16Thank God.
13:17Thanks for that topic.
13:18Yes.
13:19All right.
13:19Up next, Gavin's shaking in his boots.
13:22Gavin's shaking in his boots.
13:26Newsome.
13:27Vance worse than Trump.
13:30Vance, for whatever reason, scares me.
13:33Why?
13:35Almost more than Trump.
13:37I don't know.
13:39I just, I mean, talk about a guy who put a mask on and his face grew into it.
13:44I mean, J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio were two of the most effective
13:50critics, just like that guy.
13:52What's his name?
13:52Graham Lindsay of Donald Trump.
13:55What frauds?
13:56What phonies?
13:59But J.D. is a unique fraud and phony.
14:01And he's a little more dangerous.
14:03So, Michelle, that was Governor Greaseball.
14:07Yeah.
14:07Uh, Vance is worse than Trump.
14:09How is that possible when Trump is an, we've been told he's an existential threat to democracy.
14:14He's worse than Hitler.
14:15So this guy, I guess Vance is worse than worse than Hitler.
14:19Hitler cubed.
14:20Hitler cubed.
14:22Uh, you know, it's interesting that he's talking to Jen Psaki, because I think she coined that phrase
14:27originally of the only one scarier than Trump is Vance.
14:30So this is how they're going.
14:32This is what they're advancing.
14:33I can't think of anything scarier than Gavin Newsom.
14:37Really, frankly.
14:38I mean, Governor U-Haul, right?
14:39I mean, we know this in California.
14:43Their population under his reign has dropped by half a million.
14:47Their gas prices on average are a buck 50 more than the national average.
14:52Their test scores are abysmal.
14:54Think about the fires.
14:55We've talked about the Palisades fires and how brutal that was.
14:58His response to COVID.
15:00Homelessness.
15:01Almost 30% of Californians are homeless on any given night.
15:0630%.
15:07That is the largest margin by far.
15:1030%?
15:11I think it's 28.
15:13So close to 30% of their population is homeless on any given night.
15:16Does that just mean they like go out to dinner and they're not at home?
15:18Maybe.
15:19But if, you know, for me, if you want hellscape, dystopia, scary, Gavin Newsom's your man.
15:26You know, the thing that gets me about this, Zachary, is like you'd think that they would
15:30learn that demonization gets people killed.
15:33You know, they say they ominously warn that somebody like Trump or Charlie Kirk or whoever
15:38will do terrible things, but they don't.
15:41What ends up happening is the people that are scared or angry do the terrible thing to them.
15:47Let me tell you a few things about Gavin Newsom.
15:50So, you know, it's you know, he's a really interesting kind of Machiavellian.
15:57Listen, it's so I know I'm as an actor, I'm a professional liar.
16:02OK, I'm very good at looking at people.
16:05And and by the way, and you don't even have to be a professional actor to look at Gavin
16:09Newsom and know that when his lips are moving, he is lying.
16:12He is projecting everything that he's saying about J.D. Vance or anybody else.
16:15This is literally the one of the most deceitful.
16:19I'm sorry.
16:19I believe I believe this with everything in me.
16:21The guy is a professional, slick, smells like sulfur liar.
16:25And everything that's happening in California, the fact that he's even trying to make a run
16:29at president of the United States when he's taken what was like the fifth largest economy
16:33in the world is tanking it.
16:36Hollywood's leaving.
16:37Everybody else is leaving all of their taxable monies.
16:40All these billionaires are fleeing.
16:41This is not the guy.
16:43And also, how dare he with his track record of his morality to be accusing J.D. Vance,
16:49who, by the way, is a very stand up man who believes in America, believes in humanity,
16:53believes in the family units and wants to lead with that and lead with that heart.
16:58And he doesn't take any guff.
16:59I mean, I really like J.D. Vance.
17:01I think he's a great guy.
17:02Never met him, but I'm very pro-J.D.
17:04And he never banged his best friend's wife.
17:06Right.
17:07Did not.
17:08Right.
17:09Not all of us can say that.
17:12Dr. Drew.
17:13I can say it.
17:16Well, those pictures speak otherwise.
17:18Kat, your husband's a man.
17:20His name's Cameron.
17:21Yeah.
17:22Where's this going?
17:23Has he ever said to you,
17:25Kat, I'm really scared of this person?
17:28Has he ever, like, I'm, this person scares me.
17:33Now, I've been scared by women in my past, you know, because I am famous.
17:37God knows what they want from me.
17:39But.
17:40Like, where is this going?
17:42No, I'm saying like the whole, to Zachary's point that him being a phony,
17:46the idea that I'm scared, I'm scared.
17:49It's such a, I hate to use the liberal phrase performative, but they always use this incredible,
17:54exaggerated language to describe how dangerous somebody is.
17:57I'm scared.
17:59Yeah.
17:59Well, I mean, and even just hearing a politician call, saying, you know, you're phony.
18:04And especially this guy, it's just the whole thing, of course, is ridiculous.
18:07And you do wonder, how long are we going to do this for?
18:10Mm-hmm.
18:11Where, with Trump, where it's like, Trump's the worst.
18:13And remember, in the primaries, it was always, that was like, oh, when DeSantis looked like DeSantis
18:16was going to be a thing?
18:17Yes.
18:18They were like, well, let me tell you how DeSantis is worse than Trump.
18:21Yeah.
18:21So now it's J.D. Vance.
18:23Like, how long is this?
18:24And everything is framed around, it's like if someone says something positive about Trump,
18:29then like, that's a MAGA person.
18:31And then, you know, if someone says, oh, then you're anti-Trump.
18:33Everything is all revolved around this.
18:36And isn't like, I'm bored of it.
18:38Yeah.
18:38I feel like most people have to, I mean, when are we going to get bored of it?
18:43Yeah.
18:43As a nation.
18:44We've been talking about this forever.
18:46I mean, red eye, I would end my monologue with, if you disagree with me, you're worse
18:50than Hitler.
18:51I thought that would have like, yeah, I did that for 20 years.
18:54Dr. Drew, it's like, you don't even know me anymore.
18:57No, I do.
18:57I just forgotten that part.
18:58Shouldn't the Democrats, if they were smart, treat it like a product and go like, this Republican
19:04is 30% more Nazi.
19:06You know what I mean?
19:07Rather than, you know, like, just get, and then say why, because maybe that would make
19:12it more interesting.
19:12It would, uh, it would somehow add an intrigue to it.
19:16But I'm, I'm thinking as you guys are discussing this, I know who he actually is afraid of.
19:21Who?
19:22It's somebody who appears on this show, sat in this seat.
19:25Adam Carolla scares the out of him.
19:26Yeah.
19:27He holds his hand to the fire.
19:28He came on his podcast one time and said, the real problem with, um, the, uh, the, uh,
19:34Hispanic community in Los Angeles is check cashing institutions.
19:37Adam goes, check cashing?
19:38Why?
19:39He goes, well, they can't get, they can't get bank accounts.
19:41Why?
19:41What's wrong with them?
19:42Why can't they get a bank account?
19:43And he's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
19:45And he just goes at him and at him and at him.
19:47And he falls apart immediately.
19:50Nobody ever holds his hand to the fire.
19:51Well, it's, uh, Kat brought this point up a long time ago that, uh, if you're a liberal
19:56in the media, you never get a follow-up question.
19:58Right.
19:59And no one wants to, no one wants to tap that house of cards.
20:02I always say, you know, I think Kat Carolla should run for governor.
20:05Ooh.
20:06You know?
20:07I don't know.
20:07Careful what you ask for.
20:10I've known the man a long time.
20:12Love him dearly.
20:13I'm not sure of governor material.
20:14Oh, I think he'd be a great governor.
20:16He would, man.
20:16That would be amazing.
20:17He's got name recognition.
20:18I just think there's a law of diminished returns.
20:20Look, he'd do a better job than this guy no matter what he did.
20:25Shrek, he's scared of being gay.
20:28We've all been there.
20:29Zach, this is a great story.
20:31The new Star Trek show that everybody hates, it's called Starfleet Academy.
20:36It's celebrating the franchise's first openly gay Klingon character because the writing's so bad
20:42and nobody's watching.
20:43This is what their metric is.
20:45We have a gay character.
20:46But the actor says he felt scared to take on the role because he expected a
20:50backlash that is rooted in homophobia, racism and bigotry.
20:54You're in Hollywood.
20:55Yeah.
20:56If there is a gay character, he's going to come up against a lot of bigotry and homophobia,
21:01right?
21:01As opposed to say a white, straight guy who goes to church.
21:04Well, listen, within the context of just the insular Hollywood, no, there's not a lot of
21:18that, right?
21:18It's a very left-leaning town and left-leaning industry.
21:20But one could have a legitimate concern that maybe middle America or conservatives wouldn't
21:25like that character.
21:25Oh, how dare you?
21:27Hold on, hold on.
21:28But here's the thing, here's the thing.
21:30Zach, don't make me hate you.
21:31I don't, hold on.
21:33To me, it's not a matter of whether or not you have a gay character and show here.
21:38That's not the point.
21:38The point is, do we as an audience feel like we're being, it's being shoehorned in inorganically,
21:44and we're being preached to and propagandized in some way.
21:47And unfortunately, Hollywood has gotten very good at not doing any of that authentically
21:53or organically.
21:54It's like, we're just going to shove all this kind of agenda and ideology into it.
21:57And by the way, I don't think anybody should do that.
21:59I don't think it should happen on the left, and I don't think it should happen on the right.
22:02The right never does it.
22:03What would we shoehorn?
22:04Well, there's a lot of things.
22:05Let's insert a Utah farmer into law and order.
22:11Well, like for example, in a lot of Christian movies, like a lot of faith-based movies for
22:16a long time, they weren't very good movies.
22:19And in part, it was because the messaging was so heavy-handed that you couldn't get through
22:22all that.
22:23Too much God?
22:24Well, too much preaching as opposed to just telling a great story.
22:28And not to pat myself on the back, but I made a movie called American Underdog where
22:31I played Kurt Warner.
22:32And in that movie, it was laden with faith.
22:35It was laden with all those great messages, but it's done in a good package.
22:38Because the story is there.
22:40The story is first.
22:41And it's an honest story.
22:42Yeah.
22:42Kurt and his wife were Christians, are Christians.
22:44It was a natural part of the story.
22:46It's all organic.
22:47You're not preaching at people.
22:48You're just telling a good story.
22:49But I think that Star Trek should do that.
22:51If you were in Hollywood, they would have said, you know, uh, Zach, we need to, uh, just
22:55for balance, we need to insert a Satanist.
22:58Can we make one of the players a Satanist?
23:01A lesbian Satanist.
23:05Your cat.
23:06In the NFL.
23:07Bravo.
23:08I'm beginning to think that Star Trek is the new Bravo channel, and it might become
23:14must-see TV for the Cat 10th demo.
23:18Yeah.
23:18I mean, honestly, but I would need more, like, cheating and drink-throwing.
23:23Like, this doesn't, like, this, what's it called, the Klingon?
23:27Yeah, Klingon.
23:27He looks more like a RuPaul's Drag Race than a Bravo.
23:33But, Cat, maybe once, what is it, explore his options?
23:35How do they say it?
23:36Oh, that's Love Island, when they say they're keeping, exploring other connections.
23:40Yeah, I got Drew into Love Island, by the way.
23:42Well, I judge you by those pictures.
23:44I'm not surprised.
23:45No, it's a, it goes, continue with your analysis.
23:49Well, I would, my analysis, I mean, look, I mean, look, I, people, people hate people
23:54for all kinds of things.
23:55Yes.
23:55So, I definitely think that there is a concern.
23:57There's definitely people who are racist and who are homophobic.
24:00There's, on every show, there's people who hate the people on the show.
24:03Right.
24:04People hate me.
24:04People hate you.
24:05People hate me.
24:06No, they don't.
24:07People, but it's like, for a whole, a whole multitude of reasons.
24:11So, I think he was just, you know, being honest about the fact that he was scared about
24:13that.
24:14Wouldn't you, wouldn't you at least agree that this, uh, point that he's making is
24:18about 10 years old?
24:19Yes.
24:19Yes.
24:20I agree with that.
24:21Yes.
24:21Because I do think that.
24:22He's gotten better over 10 years.
24:23Yeah, yeah.
24:23I mean, if you, if he actually believes this, then that means his progressive culture must
24:28suck because apparently there's been no progress.
24:31Yeah.
24:31And actually, maybe the things that they did, yeah, but the things that they did actually
24:35worked against him because of what Zach's point, which is shoving this down our
24:39throat.
24:40Yes.
24:40Not literally.
24:41But when there's not a backlash, he's not going to say, oh, this was great.
24:44I was fully accepted.
24:45You won't hear that.
24:46No.
24:46And that's boring.
24:47Right.
24:47And by the way, the Klingons are the bad guys, right?
24:49Yes.
24:50And what's he going to do?
24:51Well, they're an alien race that collaborates within the Federation.
24:57You know, there's a lot of good Klingons and Romulans.
25:00Oh, wow.
25:01Zach has gone full woke.
25:04He's defending the Klingons.
25:06I know.
25:06The Klingons in the original Star Trek were bad guys.
25:09Very bad.
25:09Did you watch The Next Generation?
25:11Worf was a Klingon.
25:12And he was fantastic.
25:14How can it, guys?
25:15How can somebody so good looking be such a geek?
25:21You're welcome.
25:22Yes.
25:23Cat, get him into Love Island immediately.
25:25God help me know.
25:26There's like five episodes a week.
25:28No Love Island.
25:29Oh, my goodness.
25:30Michelle, I think, okay, so he's a Klingon, but he'll be probably sympathetic.
25:35And I think a lot of the challenges for people in other diversity boxes, they're not allowed
25:41to play edgy characters.
25:43They have to always be the good guy, the earnest guy, because any kind of edge suggests a flaw.
25:49Yeah, it's interesting.
25:50Only the villains can be white.
25:51I agree with something you said a minute ago, though.
25:54Isn't this like 10 years old?
25:55I thought we were past this kind of stuff.
25:57I mean, there are barriers that are broken, right?
26:01Barack Obama was the first black president.
26:03You know, Leslie Visser was the first female sideline reporter.
26:06Sarah Thomas, in my industry, was the first female referee or official in the NFL.
26:12And I'm the first little person late-night talker.
26:14Exactly.
26:16I mean, see.
26:19You're a hero.
26:21But I just want to get back to, let's affirm people for they're really good actors, they're
26:29really good writers, they're really good talk show hosts, they're really good doctors.
26:32Or, like, merit, like, couldn't it, can't we just talk about the content of their character?
26:38Well, it's because merit is one metric, we all understand, but they shifted the metric
26:43to something that has no outcome, but counting what's in that box.
26:48I just want that to be behind us.
26:50Yeah.
26:50I really do.
26:51I would like us to just shift to what people do well and how good of a person they are.
26:57Well, maybe one day that will happen.
26:58I have a dream, Greg.
27:00Yes.
27:01I have a dream, too, but it involves Dr. Drew.
27:05You keep sending me the pictures, man.
27:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:08By the way, I was going to ask you a question about something.
27:10Um, shoot.
27:12Uh-oh.
27:12Uh-oh.
27:13Yeah, we got all the time in the world.
27:18All right.
27:19Well, I guess we'll move on then.
27:21Yes.
27:23Coming up, airport boozing.
27:26Oh, I love this.
27:27If the airport lounge bar is full of asses, why not drink with the unwashed masses?
27:32Business Insider is calling on travelers to go back to drinking at the airport bar.
27:36As more people complain, the lounges are becoming overcrowded.
27:40It's a place, that airport bar, to soak your brain in overpriced booze and think of all
27:45the bad decisions you've made.
27:47A place to numb the pain of changing planes in Detroit.
27:53Or worse, the pain of arriving home in Detroit.
28:00But as a huge international star, I can't be seen at an airport bar.
28:04That's why I hit the duty-free shop in the all-gender restroom.
28:11So, Kat, we've been traveling a lot.
28:13We're going to actually be traveling together this weekend for two live shows.
28:17One in Massachusetts, which will require air travel.
28:21How do you, don't you think lounges have changed?
28:25Yes, but I, at this point, I'm just focused on where is the least disgusting place to change
28:32a diaper.
28:33And the lounge is by, the bathrooms of the lounge are by far, I don't know why, maybe
28:38they're clean more often.
28:39Maybe people that don't get in a lounge are mad about it, so they're just rage pissing all
28:44over the place.
28:46It is true.
28:50It's like kind of wild, some of the stuff you'll see.
28:54Like, I understand that things can go wrong, but I, you know, express that a different way.
29:00So you just prefer the, you're not even going to address the charm of the airport bar?
29:05The charm, I mean, I get it, but like those days, those days are over for me, man.
29:09Like, I, I've got the focus of like keeping someone who knows nothing alive.
29:15Yes.
29:16That's my focus.
29:18You mean your husband.
29:19Oh, I was going there.
29:24She beat me to Dr. Drew.
29:28They say that the, all these airport bars are, are struggling because people, the, the, the lounges,
29:33the lounges to me are almost becoming like gates.
29:36Just more people kind of hanging around.
29:39But they're not drinking at the, in the lounges that I have seen.
29:42They just food and unlimited coffee and dark Coke.
29:45That's about it.
29:46Cheese squares, the hummus, the hummus and the pita.
29:51But I think alcohol consumption is generally dropping.
29:55I think people are becoming sort of health conscious.
29:58They're aware of the adverse.
29:59And alcohol is one of the only carcinogens to almost every tissue in our body.
30:02And people are sort of not going there so much anymore.
30:05And recovery is cool again.
30:07Yeah.
30:08So.
30:08Yeah.
30:09Fewer people are out getting smashed.
30:11It's not like it used to be.
30:12Yeah.
30:12You can feel the difference.
30:13The wineries are going out of business in California.
30:15So things are happening.
30:17I think what happened was COVID accelerated a lot of bad things and a lot of good things.
30:22Yes.
30:22So if you were drinking a lot and you went through the COVID thing at home, you started drinking
30:26more.
30:27You hit bottom.
30:28You hit bottom, pal.
30:29I hit a lot of bottoms.
30:31And then I came out.
30:32There you are again with those pictures.
30:33Yes, yes, yes.
30:35Michelle, the whole.
30:38Everybody loved the exclusivity of lounges, but now anybody can come in.
30:43I've seen Kat in there.
30:44Yeah.
30:45I'll go into a lounge and she's changing a diaper.
30:48You know what?
30:49And not her baby's.
30:50Yeah.
30:52Yeah.
30:52Her husband's diaper.
30:54Yeah.
30:54Anyway, this show has gotten so weird.
30:58You know what?
30:59I think we are in this article, they said, go to a bar, meet people, meet strangers and
31:04have a great time.
31:05And then you can walk away and you never see them again.
31:07Airports now are so impersonal.
31:09We all walk around with headphones on or earbuds in.
31:12We're all got our devices.
31:14I don't see anyone interacting really.
31:16Although I will say I was at an airport bar and I saw James Harden of the of the Cleveland
31:21Cavaliers and he was just standing there watching March Madness.
31:24That was kind of cool, but I didn't say hello or anything.
31:28I get all my airport like info from Instagram with fights and stuff.
31:34Oh, makes me think like it's escape from New York in every terminal.
31:37Zach, you are, you know, obviously recognized everywhere.
31:40You and I have a lot in common.
31:42So public place places aren't really an option for you to get completely faced.
31:48So when you are getting wasted, do you prefer to do it in the lounge?
31:55So, well, first of all, first of all, first of all, for what it's worth,
31:58yes, I am semi-famous or whatever, but honestly, I have a,
32:03and I think it's a blessing because I kind of walk around in mostly anonymity.
32:07If people glance at me, they go, did we go to college together?
32:10Or maybe they think I'm joking.
32:12I know, you're handsome and bland.
32:14And bland, exactly.
32:16You are very, like, generic handsome.
32:18Thank you very much.
32:19Yes.
32:20I appreciate that.
32:21Yes.
32:21You'd be great.
32:22You know, in those, speaking of airports, in an airplane video,
32:25you would be one of the passengers that shows you how you're doing.
32:29Or, like, in the cab, like, explaining how to swipe your card.
32:32Yes.
32:34That's some of my best work, okay?
32:36You would play.
32:37But listen, hold on, hold on.
32:39But I like an airport bar.
32:42I like being in public.
32:44I like the public.
32:44I like people.
32:45And because I'm not accosted, like, you know, DiCaprio or whatever, I can go and live my life.
32:50And I like that there's sports going on at bars.
32:53I will say the one thing about air travel in general, both the airports and the planes,
32:56they are designed for alcoholics.
32:59Yeah.
32:59You can order a drink at 8 in the morning, and it is completely fine.
33:04Yeah.
33:04Everyone's like, what are you having?
33:06Margarita?
33:06Do you want a tequila?
33:07Do you want a beer?
33:07And then on the plane, more.
33:08It's like, more drinks, more booze, more drinks, more booze.
33:11So that's fun sometimes.
33:13But to Drew's point, we are seeing a decline, and we should be seeing a decline in alcohol
33:18consumption because it is poison.
33:19It's a poison I've enjoyed many times throughout my life, but it's one that I try to cut back
33:23on more and more the older I get.
33:24But even for younger people, they're saying, there's got to be better alternatives than
33:28there are.
33:28I can't imagine having a baby and having a hangover.
33:33That's why I didn't want to have kids.
33:37I like lounges.
33:40I don't like lounge people.
33:42Do you know what I mean?
33:43Because they kind of walk in with an attitude.
33:46They stop at the buffet, and they're like, ooh, this is all mine.
33:49I'm important.
33:50You know what I'm talking about?
33:51And they walk around with their little plate with the hard-boiled egg.
33:54Yeah, this is free.
33:56This is free.
33:56I have a hard-boiled egg.
33:58I can get anything I want in here.
34:00I'm exclusive.
34:01And they look over at you, and they're like, ha ha ha, you're not better than me.
34:05Are you projecting a little bit right now?
34:08Aren't you a lounge person?
34:10Don't you get to the airport like three hours early?
34:13I used to get there three hours early just to sit in the lounge and do that.
34:18All right, up next, rock and roll posers.
34:23How is Sade rock and roll?
34:27Drew, the 2026 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees are out, and they include a diverse group.
34:32Sade, I used to call her Saeed.
34:36Shakira, Lauren Hill, Mariah Carey?
34:39Mariah Carey?
34:40I mean, Sade's got a great voice, but that's soul jazz, if you ask me.
34:45And the worst thing about it, Dave Matthews.
34:49Oh, no.
34:50That is not rock and roll.
34:51That's not even music.
34:54Bill Collins was in there, is that?
34:56Well, Genesis is great.
34:57Oh, please.
34:57In excess.
34:58Why do you think they're diluting this?
35:00I think people don't understand what this was.
35:05Yeah.
35:05I think in 100 years, it will not exist.
35:07I'm sorry to tell you, Greg, I know you're a huge fan.
35:09But we are so attached to it, you talk to young people, they don't know anything about it.
35:14I can't, I'm not allowed to talk to young people.
35:16I know.
35:17The judge said so.
35:19Yes, exactly.
35:21I tried to start a conversation about music, and it never happens, Michelle.
35:26New edition.
35:28New edition?
35:29To me, there are only, there are three slam dunks in this one.
35:32And by the way, you know, they nominated Dolly Parton too.
35:35This is no longer the rock and roll hall of fame.
35:37That's my point.
35:38It's the music hall of fame.
35:38It's some sort of weird delusion.
35:40James the name.
35:41So, you know, next year it will be Bach and Mozart.
35:44But I want to say, don't you dare diss Phil Collins again.
35:49I love this man.
35:50No, I was saying it's good that he was there.
35:51Oh, okay, you better go.
35:52In excess of Phil Collins.
35:53But I was in college.
35:54Yeah.
35:54Yeah.
35:55And everyone at Berkeley.
35:56Did you sleep with him?
35:57No.
35:59Oh, I'm sorry.
35:59That was Peter Gabriel.
36:02No, I slept overnight in Sproul Plaza.
36:06They were doing all the anti-apartheid stuff in the boxes and everything.
36:09I was sleeping to get tickets to go see Phil Collins.
36:13So the police officer comes up to me, oh, are you here with the apartheid processors?
36:17And I said, no, I just want to get Phil Collins seats.
36:19But I did.
36:20I got front row seats for Phil Collins.
36:22He's a slam dunk.
36:23In excess is a slam dunk.
36:24I agree.
36:24I agree.
36:25Yeah.
36:26You know, Zach, Michelle brought up Bach.
36:29And I think about Bach and Beethoven.
36:31They didn't need a hall of fame.
36:32Rock and roll is only, what, 70 years old, maybe?
36:35I mean, isn't it kind of gratuitous to have a hall of fame for something that is in its infancy?
36:40I mean, yeah, I guess.
36:41I don't know.
36:42We like to celebrate things.
36:43What kind of music do you listen to?
36:46I'm all over the board.
36:47Yeah.
36:47I like a lot of rock.
36:48I like pop.
36:49What a generic answer.
36:51Oh, for crying in the night, Greg.
36:53I'm sorry if I have an eclectic taste.
36:57What are you, just into hardcore hip hop?
36:59What's he mean to you the other times or just now because you've been on so many times?
37:02No, no, no, no, no.
37:03He's always cantankerous.
37:04He wasn't even here last time.
37:06He was sick last time.
37:07I was sick and I'm sick now, but I had to come on because you were here, Zachary.
37:10I'm here for you and for everybody else and for this wonderful audience.
37:13Isn't that good to know?
37:13But listen, I do agree.
37:16But I do agree that I do agree that if you're going to have a rock and roll hall of
37:20fame,
37:20just keep it rock and roll.
37:22I think part of it is also, by the way, we don't even make as much rock like true rock.
37:26Right.
37:26I'm telling you, it's not going to be right.
37:28So it's a very weird thing.
37:30And also all music genres kind of borrow and collaborate with the music genres.
37:34So, you know, when Dolly Parton, when that came around, there was a part of me that was kind of
37:38like,
37:38listen, Dolly has influenced a lot of rock stars.
37:41She's been collaborative in those things.
37:43So and she's Dolly Parton.
37:45So, you know, and also Sade, I love that girl.
37:47And a lot of people in excess, obviously, that's a given one.
37:50But so, yeah, make some other Hall of Fames or just make it music.
37:54Just make it the music Hall of Fame.
37:55Then they got to get all new signs.
37:56Yeah.
37:57How is Sade rock and roll?
38:01Drew, the 2026 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees are out.
38:04And they include a diverse group.
38:07Sade.
38:07I used to call her Sade.
38:10Shakira Lauren Hill.
38:12Mariah Carey.
38:14Mariah Carey.
38:15I mean, Sade's got a great voice, but that's soul jazz, if you ask me.
38:19And the worst thing about it, Dave Matthews.
38:24Oh, no.
38:24That is not rock and roll.
38:26That's not even.
38:28That's not even music.
38:29Bill Collins was in there.
38:30Is that?
38:30Well, Genesis is great.
38:32Oh, please.
38:32In excess.
38:33Why do you think they're diluting this?
38:35I think, I think people don't understand what this was.
38:39Yeah.
38:40I think in 100 years it will not exist.
38:42Mm-hmm.
38:42I'm sorry to tell you, Greg, I know you're a huge fan, but we are so attached to it.
38:46You talk to young people that they don't know anything about it.
38:49I can't.
38:49I'm not allowed to talk to you.
38:50I know.
38:52The judge said so.
38:53Yes, exactly.
38:56I tried to start a conversation about music, and it never happens, Michelle.
39:00New edition.
39:02New edition?
39:04To me, there are only, there are three slam dunks in this one.
39:07And by the way, they, you know, they nominated Dolly Parton too.
39:09This is no longer the rock and roll hall of fame.
39:11That's the point.
39:11That's my point.
39:12It's the music hall of fame.
39:13It's some sort of weird delusion.
39:14It's a musical hall of fame.
39:15So, you know, next year it will be Bach and Mozart, but I want to say, don't you dare
39:21diss Phil Collins again.
39:23I love this man.
39:24No, I was saying it's good that he was there.
39:26Oh, okay.
39:26You better go.
39:27I was in college, and everyone at Berkeley.
39:31Did you sleep with him?
39:32No.
39:33Oh, I'm sorry.
39:34That was Peter Gabriel.
39:35Come on.
39:37No.
39:37I slept overnight in Sproul Plaza.
39:41They were doing all the anti-apartheid stuff in the boxes and everything.
39:44I was sleeping to get tickets to go see Phil Collins.
39:48So the police officer comes up to me.
39:49Oh, are you here with the apartheid processors?
39:51And I said, no, I just want to get Phil Collins' seats.
39:54But I did.
39:55I got front row seats for Phil Collins.
39:56He's a slam dunk.
39:58In excess is a slam dunk.
39:58I agree.
39:59I agree.
40:00Yeah.
40:00You know, Zach, Michelle brought up Bach, and I think about Bach and Beethoven.
40:05They didn't need a hall of fame.
40:07Rock and roll is only, what, 70 years old, maybe?
40:10I mean, isn't it kind of gratuitous to have a hall of fame for something that is in its infancy?
40:15I mean, yeah, I guess.
40:16I don't know.
40:17We like to celebrate things.
40:18What kind of music do you listen to?
40:20I'm all over the board.
40:22Yeah.
40:22I like a lot of rock.
40:23I like pop.
40:24What a generic answer.
40:26Oh, for crying in the night, Greg.
40:28I'm sorry if I have an eclectic taste.
40:32What are you, just into hardcore hip hop?
40:34Was he mean to you the other times or just now because you've been on so many times?
40:37No, no, no, no, no.
40:37He's always cantankerous.
40:39He wasn't even here last time.
40:40He was sick last time.
40:41I was sick and I'm sick now, but I had to come on because you were here, Zachary.
40:44I'm here for you and for everybody else and for this wonderful audience.
40:47Isn't that good to know?
40:48But listen, I do agree.
40:50But I do agree that I do agree that if you're going to have a rock and roll hall of
40:54fame,
40:55just keep it rock and roll.
40:56I think part of it is also, by the way, we don't even make as much rock like true rock.
41:01I'm telling you, it's not going to be right.
41:03So it's a very weird thing.
41:04And also all music genres kind of borrow and collaborate with the music genres.
41:08So, you know, when Dolly Parton, when that came around, there was a part of me that was kind of
41:12like,
41:13listen, Dolly has influenced a lot of rock stars.
41:16She's been collaborative in those things.
41:18So and she's Dolly Parton.
41:19So, you know, and also Sade, I love that girl.
41:22And a lot of people in excess, obviously, that's a given one.
41:25But so, yeah, make some other hall of fames or just make it music.
41:29Just make it the music hall of fame.
41:29Then they got to get all new signs.
41:31Yeah.
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