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00:00On today's show...
00:04Your potential brother is seriously coming on national television
00:07to say that you've made up about being sexually abused by his father, yeah?
00:11Call me a liar as much as you want, but I know for a fact,
00:13because I was there, I went through it, it happened to me,
00:16it's the truth, whether you like it or not.
00:18I do not believe it.
00:19Wife! Wife!
00:22If you didn't do it, Raz, you wouldn't have got 18 years in prison.
00:24So you don't believe that he raped her?
00:26No, I don't.
00:27So he is his dad? Yeah.
00:29Is he her dad?
00:30A 50-50.
00:32TNA test results show that Tash and Natalie...
00:38She uses the kids against John, she blackmails him.
00:41Yes, she does.
00:41If you don't do what you're told, you won't see your kids everywhere.
00:43What do you want from today, darling?
00:44What do you want from today? I want her to butt out.
00:46You had no...
00:47...to my kids.
00:49No one! No one! You asked me!
00:51You asked me 12 hours ago to take care of the rug!
00:55The burning question almost broke the internet.
00:57Who pooped in the caravan's fridge?
01:01There's no other choice for come back.
01:03You know, I have to prove myself.
01:24Hello, my friends.
01:24Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show to my first guest today.
01:27Tash is here to do DNA tests with her potential half-siblings Danny and Natalie so they can find out
01:32if they share the same dad or not.
01:34Now, Tash says that all their doubts aside, she wants to confront Danny for turning on her after she was
01:40raped by the father they might share.
01:42She says that her dad was convicted of this crime and sentenced to 18 years in prison but Danny refused
01:47to accept it and blamed her for destroying the family with lies.
01:51She says that Danny still doesn't believe what happened and instead sides with her father and she is desperate to
01:56know why.
01:57Massive day for an incredibly brave lady.
01:59Tash is next on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:01That way.
02:03APPLAUSE
02:05How are you doing?
02:09I'm not going to lie, they say you're amazing and I'm also not going to lie, this is such a
02:13confusing story that I want to try and make sure that we give you, most of all, what you want
02:19and what you need from today.
02:22Before we get on to Danny and Natalie and where we are in the ether of DNA, shocking, your father,
02:31talk to me.
02:34Yeah, from the age of four till I was 15 obviously, got sexually abused, rapes and abused by my dad.
02:40Just slow that down one minute because people will tune into a show like this and they'll hear a line
02:44like that and we can't become desensitised.
02:47For 11 years your own father raped you.
02:50Yeah.
02:50Did you tell anybody?
02:51No, I was too scared and obviously always felt like it was my fault that it had gone on.
02:56That's what abusers do, they point your finger.
02:59You didn't tell anybody at school?
03:01No, I didn't.
03:02Did you not tell your mum because you believed that your mother wouldn't say anything?
03:05What?
03:05No, I didn't tell my mum because I was too scared because my dad always used to turn around and
03:09say if I ever told anyone then it would tear the family apart and they'd all believe him over myself.
03:15So when I hit 15 and I finally told somebody and it went quarter to the ages, when I was
03:2016, pregnant with my oldest, that's when all the family turned really badly against me.
03:27This man was convicted, right, in a court of law of raping his own daughter, sexually abusing her for 18,
03:35well for however long, and he got 18 years in prison.
03:38Is he still in prison?
03:39Yes he is, yeah.
03:40Good.
03:41Your own brother is so anti-hearing anything he's not even, he doesn't believe this.
03:49Why would he not believe it?
03:51None of them do.
03:53I don't know, they're just stuck on their own.
03:54What, they thought you'd just make that up?
03:55They're just stuck on their own stupid little fantasy world, thinking that the sun shines out of his backside when
04:02it actually doesn't.
04:03Danny says that you're an attention seeker.
04:07I'd love to see how.
04:09He says you're a compulsive liar who does things for sympathy.
04:12Like what?
04:14He, if he wasn't guilty, the court wouldn't have found him guilty and he wouldn't have got 18 years in
04:19prison.
04:20There wouldn't have been any evidence.
04:22Swamps.
04:23Everything.
04:23There wouldn't have been any evidence there to get him sent down.
04:28Why have they turned on you?
04:29I don't know.
04:30I've always been the black sheep of the family and...
04:33How do we get from that horrendous experience and how your family have turned against you, how do we then
04:39get to an argument about DNA?
04:41I don't understand.
04:42I don't know.
04:43The first time I heard about it was...
04:45I mean, this is your dad.
04:46Yeah.
04:47If you're saying he's dad, why do you need a DNA test to prove he is or isn't?
04:50I don't know.
04:50It was a couple of days ago I only found out that Natalie and Daniel had a so-called Pearson
04:58ring Natalie to say,
04:59look, I've been in prison with your dad.
05:00They've come out and obviously they turned around and said, turned around and said obviously that Natalie and Daniel aren't
05:07his.
05:07So they've asked loads of people in the family to come out and do a DNA test and they've all
05:11said no.
05:12So me being me, I've just turned around and goes, fine then, I'll do it so you two can find
05:17out who your dad is.
05:18I'm sure your family might well have turned against you.
05:20I'm sure your father is as low as he appears to be.
05:23I think you're utterly fantastic at 21, if you don't mind me saying.
05:26I have a great respect for you.
05:32So your relationship with Danny and Natalie is not at its best.
05:35Danny says, erm, I don't believe this at all.
05:39I believe that she lies about all sorts of things.
05:42Your potential brother is seriously coming on national television to call you a liar
05:47and to say that you've made up about being sexually abused by his father.
05:50You can call me a liar as much as you want but I know for a fax because I was
05:54there.
05:54I went through this.
05:55It happened to me.
05:56It's the truth whether you like it or not.
05:58Don't tell me.
06:00Amazing.
06:00Don't tell me.
06:01Don't tell him Danny's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
06:11Do you think that's funny, do you?
06:13What?
06:13Do you think that's funny?
06:14Do you think what's funny?
06:15Your dad's in prison because he's a rapist.
06:17Found guilty.
06:18You got found guilty but I don't know if he is or he isn't.
06:21What do you mean you got found guilty but you don't know if he is or isn't?
06:23It's your sister.
06:24Yeah.
06:24Got any kids?
06:25Got any kids?
06:26Got any kids?
06:27Got a daughter?
06:28Yeah, they have.
06:29What would you do if your daughter said something like that?
06:30I'd kill.
06:30Oh right.
06:32But your own sister swaps every bit of proof known to man put away for 18 years and you
06:38have a go at her?
06:39I've never ever said to Tash I do not believe it.
06:42Why mate?
06:43He told me that you didn't believe me.
06:43Why are you lying?
06:45Who are you?
06:45He asked me that you didn't believe me.
06:47He asked me he doesn't believe me.
06:49He asked me he doesn't believe me.
06:50Why do you think we don't believe you?
06:51Because you tell every time Nick and Amy.
06:53Sorry can I just.
06:54You tell everybody that some different men have bring you all the time.
06:56Really?
06:57So you're saying she's somebody who regularly accuses people of raping them?
07:00Really?
07:01You go and take a seat and let me finish.
07:03Oh come on you never touch me then!
07:05Don't know you tell me that Nat.
07:07Well I'm not here about what's happened with them.
07:11I'm here for me.
07:12We have to hear that story pal.
07:14You're not even hearing anything from me.
07:16No because your sister came out.
07:18Well I'm not being funny Danny guys.
07:19I promise my brother brothers and sisters I would not mention nothing about that.
07:23That's why she's here!
07:24I'm not being funny but I.
07:25Her father was jailed because he raped her.
07:29Yeah and I.
07:30Allegedly.
07:30Well okay now your sister.
07:32Hold on a second.
07:32Your sister's just come out and said this girl's a serial accuser so you must know about
07:37that.
07:38If my sister had been raped I'd be apoplectic.
07:42You seem so calm.
07:43I don't have nothing to do with them because I don't know.
07:46Shut up a minute darling.
07:47We will get to you now.
07:48I want it.
07:49Darling.
07:50Now be quiet.
07:51Lose the picture Matt.
07:53I want to speak to your brother.
07:54Go on talk to me.
07:55I don't know if it is true or not true so I prefer not have nothing to do.
07:58Why would she make it up mate?
07:59I've got my own family.
07:59Why would she make it up?
08:01I don't know.
08:02Your sister says it's because she always makes things like that up.
08:06So why.
08:06I'll talk to her.
08:07I was going to say something then.
08:08Can you shut her up a minute please?
08:10I don't want to talk about dad.
08:11I want to be here for me.
08:13Yeah and why do you think.
08:14Just leave it at that then.
08:16Right why do you think right.
08:18Nat asked everybody else.
08:19Hold on Nat asked everybody else.
08:20But Danny surely the reason this family has been split apart is because of what your father
08:23did.
08:23I don't know what to believe.
08:25Is it easier to not think that your father could be that disgusting?
08:29I'm asking you seriously man to man.
08:31It's easier not to know.
08:33Do you go and visit him?
08:35I have done.
08:36And I asked him if he did it or not.
08:38What did he say?
08:39He said no.
08:42How does that make you feel that your brother's gone to visit a bloke who raped you?
08:47I can't stop him from going to see his dad because at the end he is his dad.
08:52I went to see dad once when he first got sentenced and I promised my kids I wouldn't go again
08:59and I haven't.
09:00Can you both sit down, be quiet and let me do this as best as I can.
09:05Matt, lose the picture but be quiet until I ask you to come out.
09:10Your DNA test.
09:11Explain to me why you need a DNA test without anybody else speaking.
09:14I had a phone call saying my dad's been saying I'm not his.
09:18A man you've supported despite the fact that he's been caged for rape is now sitting in a court,
09:23well in a jail, saying to any Tom, Dick and Harry, by the way they're not even my kids.
09:28That's nice.
09:28That's support.
09:29You went to visit him.
09:30You've stuck up for him.
09:31Why didn't he tell you this years ago?
09:33I went to visit once.
09:34Why didn't he tell you that years ago?
09:35He has mentioned it years ago but I was too young to do anything.
09:39So you want a DNA test to find out if this guy is your father or not?
09:41Yeah.
09:42Yeah?
09:42Yeah.
09:44So Natalie, help me out.
09:45If he is, would I have anything to do with him?
09:48No, I wouldn't.
09:48How do we do a DNA test if the bloke's in jail?
09:51Has the producer decided to explain that to me?
09:53That's why Natasha is his daughter.
09:56Do you know what I mean?
09:58Yeah, that's why.
09:58You've come to help him.
10:01Yeah, Natalie.
10:02And you don't believe she got raped?
10:03Natalie.
10:05Right, you've talked too much.
10:07Natalie's next.
10:08Give her a round of applause, those gentlemen.
10:10APPLAUSE
10:16Sit down.
10:17It's very confusing for any of us with not many brain cells.
10:20It's just a ridiculously confusing story.
10:23I don't want you to shout, I want you to talk to me.
10:25This guy, do you believe he's your dad?
10:30Because your brother found out from somebody who was in jail recently
10:33that he might not be.
10:34What's that done to you, that as an emotion?
10:39I just felt lost all these years at the end of the day.
10:42I was told when I was 12, he was.
10:4521, I was told he wasn't.
10:46And now he's 50-50.
10:48Can I ask you a question about the other thing?
10:50I know you don't want to talk about it, but I've got to bear that in mind massively
10:52because here's a girl who is here today to help you get that sibling deal.
10:56And I asked the question, and that was the question about...
10:57I was rifled as well.
10:59Do you not believe that he raped her?
11:00Answer that question.
11:01Why make all them accusations on the other men as well?
11:03I'm not being fooled in that, right?
11:04At the end of the day, no.
11:05At the end of the day, right, if he didn't do it, he wouldn't have got 18 years in prison,
11:08right?
11:08It wouldn't have been me.
11:09Yeah, you're a miner.
11:11No proof.
11:12No proof.
11:12No proof.
11:12No proof.
11:15Yes, they have.
11:16Just your word.
11:16No, it's not.
11:17Just your word.
11:18They would have seen straight proof.
11:19You don't jail somebody.
11:21Hello, excuse me.
11:23You don't jail somebody for 18 years based entirely on word, darling.
11:26Not in a million years.
11:27When you're a miner, you've got no chance, have they?
11:29When you're a miner.
11:29So you don't believe that you're dead?
11:30You don't need no evidence when you're a miner.
11:31So you don't believe that he raped her?
11:33No, I don't.
11:34The judge, the jury, the scientific fact, everything.
11:38Why'd wait till she was born and do it to me?
11:40Did you ever ask him if he did it?
11:41Yeah.
11:41You visited him?
11:42I have, yeah.
11:43Do you visit him regularly?
11:44Not now.
11:45Oh, really not.
11:45Hold on, hold on.
11:46Why don't you visit him now?
11:48Yeah, he said I never touched you.
11:49I write it to him and we don't speak anymore.
11:51When is he out?
11:5234 years.
11:54But you said you were coming here today to help me do this DNA test
11:57and now you're making it all about you.
11:59I'm not making it all about me.
11:59You said to me, don't even mention this and I weren't going to mention it on air,
12:02but now you're mentioning it yourself.
12:04Who's Elaine?
12:05Excuse me, you're the one that actually told the producers
12:07because he got brought up.
12:08So you have a different mother to them?
12:09I said he was in prison.
12:12You didn't believe me, right?
12:14Yes, Tash, do me a favour.
12:14So your mum, Elaine, is your mum, you two.
12:17Your mum was different, so this guy has had a few women, a few children.
12:22How many kids has he got, the rapist?
12:23One too many.
12:24Serious question, how many?
12:26It's known to say rapist when you don't know if he is or anything.
12:28It's a convicted rapist, it's a fact, a statement of fact.
12:30What do you want me to do?
12:31Talk show host, he's a rapist, that's what it says.
12:33Why aren't you going to say your father?
12:35Well, because we don't know if he's our father, that's why we're doing the DNA test.
12:39Elaine's your mum, right?
12:40Elaine's your mum.
12:40Let's get Elaine on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
12:44APPLAUSE
12:47I want to ask you something, this is really important.
12:50Right?
12:51You were married to this guy, you were with this guy?
12:54Yeah.
12:54I've got a girl coming out saying that her father raped her for 11 years,
12:57he was jailed for 18 years.
12:58Yeah.
12:59I'm coming here to find out about DNA.
13:01You were with this guy?
13:02Yeah.
13:03What's your opinion?
13:04Would he be incapable of that?
13:06Seriously?
13:07In my humble opinion, no, I don't.
13:09Well, you think she made that up?
13:10Yeah.
13:11She's sentenced, Eika.
13:12That's all she is.
13:13What has that been?
13:14Well, no, I want your mum to speak, please.
13:15It's a massive, massive accusation, isn't it?
13:18Well, of course it is, yeah.
13:19You're telling me on national television that this girl's so manipulative of 21
13:23that she would accuse her own father of raping her so that he gets jailed for 18 years
13:27so she gets to pay her.
13:28How much was the payout?
13:30Er, 22 grand.
13:31Yeah, but...
13:31You honestly believe that?
13:33Yeah, I do, yeah.
13:35That's disgusting.
13:36I'm not being funny, but how can you say...
13:37How many people in this audience believe this woman here is telling the truth?
13:40What do you say, you can't believe me?
13:41Can I ask you something?
13:42You're making it all about yourself, really?
13:43You have any idea how difficult it is?
13:45Excuse me.
13:45Nobody's mentioned...
13:46No, it's relevant.
13:48It's relevant.
13:49Would you believe somebody that said three times about three different men that they
13:52were raped, saying they've had 18 miscarriages since they were 10?
13:56Yeah.
13:56Just lately, you've spent your own daughters...
13:58What to call it when you get off social?
14:00Don't even bring my dead daughter up in this.
14:01You did.
14:02You did.
14:02Don't even bring Angel up in this.
14:03Your own mum messaged me last night saying you said that she's not even my mum.
14:06Don't even bring Angel up in this.
14:07Angel's got nothing to do with this.
14:09She's dead and buried.
14:10Yeah, but you didn't pay for it, did you?
14:12You've got money from Angel in this.
14:13You've got money from Angel in this.
14:13You've got money from Angel in this.
14:13And spelties on your boyfriend's drugs.
14:15Really?
14:16Yeah.
14:16Is that why my fella was in prison?
14:18You've got a house now.
14:19I haven't even got a fella now, you dad.
14:22Oh, yeah, that's not a...
14:24That's not a...
14:25That's not a...
14:25That's not a...
14:25That's not a...
14:25That's not a...
14:26So this girl...
14:34How old were you when your dad went to jail?
14:3716.
14:3816 years of age.
14:39Stood in a courtroom.
14:40Her entire family have turned against her.
14:42She and a social worker.
14:42We haven't turned against her because...
14:43Yes, she did.
14:43Do you know how difficult it is to get a criminal conviction for a...
14:46I'm talking for a sexual predator nowadays?
14:50No.
14:50I would stand absolutely by that conviction.
14:5218 years, they've got to have had some pretty strong evidence.
14:55It strikes me.
14:56He wasn't.
14:57It strikes me.
15:01I don't really understand the DNA.
15:04You're prepared.
15:04This is the...
15:05Can I speak?
15:06I'm going to go to a break.
15:08And I'm basically going to come back.
15:09And I'm going to say, are these two, right, related...
15:13You're saying that he is their father, both of them, yeah?
15:16Yeah.
15:16No.
15:17I said he's...
15:18I never denied him as his dad.
15:19Never.
15:21But?
15:22What do you mean, both?
15:23So he is his dad?
15:24Yeah.
15:25Is he her dad?
15:26A 50-50.
15:27A 50-50.
15:28What do you mean, 50-50?
15:30What?
15:30What I mean by 50-50?
15:32What, you slept with somebody else?
15:33Yeah.
15:34And that doesn't matter that you don't think your daughter...
15:36No, no, no.
15:37It's not the time I did, but...
15:38I love the fact that you're defending...
15:40Well, I don't.
15:41I find it abhorrent.
15:42You're defending the fact that you don't think he could possibly rape a young girl, abuse
15:45her, despite the fact he's been caged for the crime.
15:48But you know what?
15:49The DNA, that's just important.
15:50That's more important, is it?
15:51No, not really.
15:52You don't really care about anything, do you?
15:54Yes, of course I do.
15:55Because if you did, she'd have found out for your daughter.
15:57She's 27.
15:58You could have found out 10 years ago.
16:00Yeah.
16:00And that means a lot of parents again.
16:02And we don't have to look at that.
16:05Why didn't...
16:05You've changed.
16:06You too, why wouldn't they have a right to know from an early age, love?
16:09You're too busy protecting somebody.
16:10No, I've always told him who his dad is.
16:12Right.
16:13Yeah.
16:13What about you?
16:14What were you told?
16:15I was told when I was 12, I was.
16:17You sit there slagging her off.
16:19Somebody just shouted out you don't know you opened your legs to.
16:21Do you know you opened your legs to 27 years ago?
16:23Then you should know her father is.
16:27He's right!
16:31So, the bloke that's in prison, the rapist, that's what they call it, he's his father,
16:35yeah?
16:35Yeah.
16:35Is he her father?
16:37No.
16:38I don't think so, no.
16:39Unbelievable.
16:40We're back after this.
16:41Don't go anywhere.
16:42I don't know where we are.
16:45Where are we coming from?
16:46The DNA test results show that you too.
16:51Your ex-mother, why ask me?
16:53Your ex-partners, what a woman, yeah?
16:55To take care of the world, to look after your son, it's your job.
16:59Look at him!
17:04Have you got a jealous partner?
17:06Are you the one that cannot control your jealousy?
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17:39I have to say the person who's shown the most dignity throughout this is you, Danny, by a merry mile.
17:44And I mean that.
17:46You said that, I mean I guess looking at you, you can see the argument from both sides.
17:51There have been accusations that you are a serial accuser.
17:55Hear me out.
17:55That you've apparently, according to your potential sister, had 18 miscarriages.
18:00You've accused three other men of raping you.
18:02It is not for me in any which way or this show to make a judgement on that.
18:06Yours is an extraordinary position though.
18:08Even your own son agreed with me.
18:09Do you not think it would have been wise to have helped your children to find out the truth years
18:13ago?
18:13Yes.
18:14Are you too busy protecting somebody who's in jail for rape?
18:16No. No, I'm not. No.
18:17Why didn't you do something about it then?
18:20Because it doesn't matter to you, does it?
18:21It does matter to me.
18:22Then why didn't you do something about it?
18:23I've been here 11 years.
18:25Why didn't you do something about it then before?
18:26Hang on, yes. That's not to me.
18:27No, why didn't you get a DNA test 11 years ago?
18:32What's this done to you, not knowing 12 to 21?
18:34Come on, be honest.
18:35Forget her a minute.
18:36Talk to me.
18:37Not knowing the truth.
18:38What's it done to you, Nat?
18:41Tell your mum.
18:42Come on.
18:43Tell me.
18:46It's just made me feel lost.
18:49I don't know where we are.
18:51I don't know where we are.
18:55Or where I come from.
18:58Actually, they're not asking them in, won't they?
19:00But you're right in what you say.
19:02Well, come here today with hopes and...
19:03This has all got clouded.
19:05It has, yeah.
19:05Clouded in the accusation.
19:08The jail term.
19:10So these two, you say, he's definitely, whatever the man is called that's in jail, is his father.
19:16What about you?
19:17You don't know whether he is or not.
19:19Because you too have also heard rumours.
19:20Let's do this DNA.
19:22As I say, it's sad.
19:26We did sibling DNA, ladies and gentlemen, if that makes sense.
19:28Because obviously the father's in jail, which means that we can do it.
19:31Right on.
19:33We started with you, Danny, and you, Tash.
19:39If you're full siblings, obviously, you'd have the same mother and the same father.
19:42If you're half, you'd have the same father.
19:44Obviously, you have this different mother.
19:45That's your mother.
19:45Your mother's not here.
19:47The DNA test results show that you two, you share the same father, you're half siblings.
19:52Thank you for coming.
19:54It's all right.
19:54I like you, Danny, increasingly, and I mean that.
19:57I absolutely mean that.
19:58That's all.
19:59Respect to you.
20:00Tash and Natalie.
20:03You said you don't think that Natalie shares the same father as the brother.
20:10You want to be her half-sister, don't you?
20:12Yeah, because I love her more than anything.
20:14What about you?
20:16You were close once.
20:19We were, yeah.
20:20What does it mean to you?
20:21Well, it means, if it says anything, it means nothing in my life's been a lie.
20:25I know in my family.
20:26The DNA test results show that Tash and Natalie, you're not half-siblings.
20:32What?
20:39Can I have one as well?
20:40What that means...
20:44That must mean that you and Natalie can't be full siblings.
20:47That's exactly what you said, but you could have done something about this.
20:50Explain when you get home, Mum.
20:51Yeah.
20:51You need to explain, Mum.
20:53Why don't you get her to explain now?
20:59I so wished she was on your foot.
21:02I do.
21:04So, basically, let me get this absolutely right.
21:07The guy who's in jail is the father of your son and the father of you with a different lady.
21:15Natalie, her father is somebody different.
21:20Nothing to say, love.
21:22She knows?
21:23No, she doesn't.
21:24No, she does.
21:24I told her.
21:25You told her three different things.
21:27Even your son's right.
21:29Come on, love.
21:30No, I told her who her dad might be.
21:31You come out here shouting and screaming.
21:32Don't start me.
21:33Forgive me for this, right?
21:35You come out here, right, forgiving and forgetting about some guys in jail for rape.
21:39Why don't we turn it on you?
21:4127 years this girl hasn't known the truth.
21:43You slept with I don't know how many.
21:44Maybe it was just two.
21:45Why didn't she know more sooner?
21:53You know, it's great, isn't it?
21:55I'm going to finish this part as I started it.
21:56You came out here.
21:57You called her a liar.
21:58You said she's a fantasy.
22:00She said she bends the truth and doesn't face up to reality.
22:02You've lied to your own daughter for 27 years.
22:05At 12 you said he was.
22:06No, I haven't done that for 27 years, sir.
22:08At 12 you said he was her father.
22:10At 21 you said he isn't.
22:12He isn't, yeah.
22:13Come on, then.
22:14Nothing.
22:14Tried to find her dad, didn't we?
22:17Do you know who her dad is?
22:19Yes, I do know who her dad is.
22:20Oh, you do now?
22:22She said you were 50-50 a minute ago.
22:24Yeah.
22:24Right, yeah.
22:26She knows who her dad is.
22:27I know the name.
22:28We know the name, yeah.
22:30Natalie, you know what?
22:32The one thing out of this, if we take what happened with this guy who is not your father
22:38to your, to Nat, to Tash, your relationship was quite close, wasn't it?
22:43Yeah.
22:44The tragedy of all of this, that's not the case anymore.
22:46It should be.
22:48Shouldn't it?
22:49Because one thing I want to say, and I do not include you in this at all, in any which
22:54way, because you failed as a mother.
22:55All three of you kids are victims on this stage.
22:59Obviously, yours is a story that we've done already, but you two are victims.
23:03Danny, you show remarkable restraint, and I mean that, and I didn't think I'd say it.
23:07I have the utmost respect for you, that you can sit there and listen like this, and I mean it.
23:12I think.
23:14I'm going to ask you something.
23:17Still here?
23:18Yeah.
23:19Yeah.
23:20But we go to here.
23:20What?
23:21But we go to here.
23:22Yeah.
23:23Yeah.
23:23Yeah, I'm fine.
23:25Walk away like you did for 27 years without telling you the truth.
23:29I've been going away for 27 years.
23:30Go away.
23:31Shut up!
23:32Go and get a DNA test, love.
23:34And somebody else to pay for it.
23:37This man shows a dignity I didn't think he'd show.
23:40You know your next move is, don't you?
23:42What?
23:43You need to draw a line in the sand and do your best to get your sisters to talk, to
23:49behave.
23:51That's up to them.
23:52Yeah, but I think you have a bigger part to play than you would imagine.
24:01Look at her.
24:04It's obvious what you both...
24:10She told us she's desperate to have a relationship with you, but it'll take time.
24:14Take what I'm going to say in the right way.
24:16You would appear to a lot of people to be quite hard-nosed.
24:19I'm not surprised, by the way, just so you're aware.
24:22Quite independent, quite set in what you believe and how you see things.
24:27You're all victims here, aren't you?
24:31And in my world, that means you lot should stick together.
24:36Will you sit and talk to her?
24:38Yeah.
24:39Look at her.
24:41Look at her.
24:41Oh, for you.
24:43Give her a hand.
24:55Listen, we're going to ask you all to get that way.
24:58Graham and the team are waiting.
24:59I really appreciate it, but remember one thing.
25:01You are not responsible for what's gone on.
25:04People have lied.
25:04People have done whatever.
25:06If there's any sort of bond, try and make it work, because life's too short.
25:11Give them a round of applause.
25:12They're going that way.
25:16Unbelievably extraordinary story.
25:17I wish them all the best of luck, and I hope absolutely they can settle their differences with our help.
25:21Now, don't go anywhere.
25:22We're right back with exes at war.
25:24We're right back.
25:25She has no right.
25:27Have you got to get your ring on her finger or anything like that?
25:29How much I need to be gathered?
25:31Excuse me.
25:32I love this man with all my heart.
25:35I have to do this.
25:36Did you poo in the fridge?
25:37It's a question we asked.
25:38Oh, God, no.
25:39What?
25:40Go and kill me, I suppose.
25:50Thank you very much indeed.
25:51Welcome back.
25:52My next guest today, Kelly, is here to tell her partner, John's ex-wife, to stop causing trouble and playing
25:57God with her children's lives.
25:58Kelly says that John's ex-wife, Jackie, viciously lashed out at her online when she dared to post a loving
26:03snap of the stepkids she loves.
26:04And she's here to find out, basically, what's your problem, love?
26:08Kelly says that Jackie uses her kids as a weapon against her and John when, in fact, she's the one
26:12who doesn't feed them properly, doesn't treat them well enough.
26:15Listen, I'm a great step-mum.
26:17Step up or me and him will get full custody.
26:19Kelly's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
26:28Oh, my Lord, you're all ready for this, aren't you?
26:30I am.
26:31Look at them.
26:31Don't kick me with them, will you?
26:32Welcome to the show.
26:33Kelly, been with John three years.
26:35Yes, I have.
26:36He used to be with Jackie.
26:37Yeah.
26:37Don't like her, do you?
26:38No, I don't.
26:39All right.
26:41How many kids do they have?
26:43They have two children.
26:44Yeah.
26:44I met these kids early on and bonded well with them.
26:46Yeah.
26:46I've been a great step-mum to them.
26:48I'm on benefits, but I won't think twice about spending and doing everything I can.
26:51No, I won't.
26:53Benefits?
26:53You can tell her to shut your mouth as well.
26:55I won't shut my mouth.
26:56You're the one that got me on it.
26:57Yeah.
26:59Yeah.
27:01I'm trying my best for my kids.
27:03Well, hold on a minute.
27:04Why are you here?
27:05Why am I here?
27:06Because I took them to the fair on the weekend.
27:09To the fair?
27:09The fair.
27:10We had a good weekend and everything like that.
27:13I spent my money on them.
27:14I looked after them.
27:15Her son has stayed with me for two whole weeks where I have fed that boy.
27:20I gave up my double bed for that boy.
27:22You know what I mean?
27:23I love them kids with all my heart.
27:25Because I put a Facebook picture on saying how I love my stepkids, they turned around
27:30and said, until you start feeding and clothing them, then come back and call yourself a step-mama
27:34and tell them.
27:35Well, I'm sorry, Jeremy.
27:36I ain't having that.
27:38She uses the kids against John.
27:39She blackmails him.
27:40If you don't do what you're told, you won't see your kids every day.
27:44What do you want from today, darling?
27:45What I want from today?
27:46I want her to butt out.
27:47At the end of the day, they might not be my children.
27:50Yeah?
27:50They might not be my flesh and blood, but you know what?
27:52I love them kids with all my heart.
27:53She's also digging at your relationship and phoning John, isn't she?
27:57At the end of the day, my relationship...
27:58Yeah, every relationship ain't perfect, Jeremy.
28:00Don't ask me about that.
28:01But you know what?
28:01I love that man with my heart and I love his kids.
28:04Right.
28:04It's about a time she shut up.
28:06Well, she says she ain't going to shut up.
28:08She says, basically, you're constant trouble and drama.
28:10You're trying to get in her face.
28:11You're no sort of stepmother and frankly, you need to do one.
28:14Really?
28:14Jackie's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
28:26Yeah, what?
28:27Get her away from me.
28:29What?
28:30Kelly, you have no...
28:31...to my kids.
28:33No, what?
28:34No.
28:34You asked me.
28:35You asked me 12 months ago to take over the role to look after Matthew.
28:39Yes.
28:40Look after Matthew.
28:41No.
28:42Matthew.
28:42But you know what?
28:43You're his mother.
28:44Why ask me?
28:45Your ex-partner's woman.
28:47Yeah?
28:48To take over the role to look after your son.
28:50It's your job.
28:51Not me.
28:52Excuse me.
28:53He was living with ye.
28:55With me?
28:56Should I say yes.
28:57Matthew happened.
28:58No.
28:58He was actually living in at the time.
29:00Yeah?
29:01But hang on.
29:02Hang on.
29:03No.
29:03You've got transporter.
29:04I haven't.
29:05You shouldn't have said that.
29:06Excuse me.
29:09But I don't have a son.
29:10Yeah.
29:11But what?
29:11I don't have a son.
29:14I don't have a son.
29:25You've got a son of them last year.
29:26What?
29:27Yeah.
29:28You've made bullies all the things.
29:30Really?
29:30I've got it all on my Facebook.
29:31Really?
29:32Is that why my m-m-m-m-m-m-m.
29:33Is that my site?
29:34Do you, could you...
29:35Hello?
29:36Do you think we could go on stage?
29:37Cause I'll go there later.
29:38I'm not going on stage.
29:38Yes you are.
29:39You know what?
29:39What do you mean?
29:40It's the Jeremy Carr show.
29:41Do what you're talking about if you care about your kids.
29:43Get out, come on.
29:45Come out, deal with it.
29:46Come on.
29:51Who are you?
29:52Oh, you're the security guard.
29:53Right, what are you?
29:55What's your main gripe then, Jackie?
29:57I don't have a gripe.
29:59Hang on, no.
29:59They're not, hang on, they're 19 and 16.
30:02I've got a picture saying I've got no rights being step-mummed.
30:04Well, hang on, who's had your son?
30:06Hold on a minute.
30:06Who's looked after your son?
30:07Yeah?
30:08Fetched your son, brought your son stuff, brought your daughter stuff.
30:11Everything you do, it's what you deserve.
30:14Because if you can't come...
30:15You deserve as well.
30:16No, she's...
30:17If you can't come...
30:19No, I didn't.
30:22Ah, excuse me.
30:23Matthew, just turn on and say to me.
30:26You know what?
30:26You manipulate, Matthew.
30:28He's 19.
30:29How can I manipulate you?
30:30He can drive a car, vote in election and join the army.
30:33Because he's got a sexist, for God's sake.
30:37And who wasn't there for him?
30:39Excuse me, who went to the funeral?
30:41I couldn't.
30:42No, you couldn't.
30:43Because you couldn't get off your f*****g hat.
30:47I have a medical condition.
30:49What's your problem?
30:49Medical condition?
30:50Well, I'm not being funny at your granddaughter's funeral.
30:53No medical condition stops you going to your own granddaughter's funeral.
30:55I wasn't going because he was gone.
30:57He went.
30:58Yeah, he was gone.
30:59He went.
31:00He went.
31:00Basically, because he went to the baby's funeral, you didn't want to go.
31:05I didn't want to get anywhere near him.
31:06So you.
31:06So you.
31:08Oh, he speaks.
31:09I just don't know.
31:10Because I want to write a message.
31:11I have every message.
31:12I've never told you nothing.
31:13He's had.
31:13He's had two suspected hashtags.
31:15He's still when he's happened to go to the funeral.
31:17Two suspected hashtags.
31:19In the past week.
31:20Yeah, exactly.
31:21Just be f*****g.
31:23Just be f*****g.
31:24Just be f*****g.
31:24And top.
31:25Really?
31:26Conveniently.
31:26Yeah.
31:26Why don't you say anything?
31:28Have you got a pair of them being cut up?
31:29No, he hasn't.
31:30What's the matter with you?
31:31Because I'm sick of it.
31:32I divorced you four years ago and everything.
31:34And you're still controlling me against the kids.
31:36And the kids are old enough to make up.
31:39They are.
31:40They are.
31:40One of them showed in the army and I was having a driving lesson.
31:43The kids make up their own minds.
31:46That's it, Dad.
31:47Yes.
31:47Wait a minute.
31:48You know what I mean?
31:48Stop it.
31:49No, no.
31:49I am having it no more.
31:50Are you having it?
31:51Get down!
31:52Who's not to make in our life?
31:55Ma, your life?
31:56Your life?
31:57Your life is perfect?
31:57Is that right?
31:58Yeah, well you're not perfect.
32:00He's.
32:01It's about better than yours.
32:02Really?
32:03Really?
32:04What do you see time be accumulating fast?
32:07Yeah, that's alright.
32:07I've been with him more than four years as it happened.
32:13Yeah, because you were cheating on him with him.
32:15Yeah, he was cheating on you.
32:18Really?
32:19Yes.
32:19Yeah, but listen, that's not the question.
32:21In the four years.
32:22It might be.
32:27Excuse me, yes, it is about me.
32:29I'm their step-mom at the end of the day.
32:31You're not. Yes, I am.
32:32I'm with their dad, so what does that task me then when I feed them,
32:35and I call them, and I buy them stuff?
32:37Sorry, I don't want to upset anybody,
32:39but surely we have to go back to it.
32:41It's not like we're talking about kids of two and three.
32:44Do you see your kids?
32:45Yes, I do.
32:47Do you see your kids?
32:48Yeah, because my kids live with me.
32:50Why have you got such a problem with her, then?
32:53I don't. It's just the way she makes out she's their perfect mom.
32:57Stop bitching at each other.
32:58Just get on with your own.
33:01One stupid Facebook message.
33:03This is another one stupid Facebook message.
33:04I put a picture on of the children
33:06to say how good I had a weekend with them, yeah?
33:09And what gives you the right to put on there
33:11until I feed them and clothe them?
33:13Yeah, until you do.
33:15So what would you expect
33:16when they come to my house and I feed them
33:18and I clothe them and I buy them stuff?
33:20But I feed them all?
33:22I beg your pardon?
33:24You wouldn't like to rephrase that, would you?
33:26Yes.
33:27I bought her own special diet.
33:29She's not on a diet.
33:30Yes, she is because she told us gluten and we freeze.
33:33Jackie said that everything was going well.
33:35They had an amicable arrangement.
33:37The kids were fine until you parked your backside.
33:40Yeah, we were.
33:40But at the end of the day,
33:41no, that Facebook message,
33:42there was no need for that, Jackie.
33:43No need for that one.
33:45Yeah, there was no need for that other one
33:46underneath it either.
33:47Well, that ain't my fault.
33:48It ain't my fault.
33:49You don't think much of Kelly, do you?
33:51You said her face is like the back of a bus.
33:53That's what you told my researchers.
33:54And look at you, mate.
33:55You can't talk, mate.
33:56Look at the size of you.
33:57Well, if you don't have to cook,
33:59you won't cook.
34:00You'd rather go to a takeaway.
34:02How?
34:02I don't go out.
34:03I am actually housebound.
34:05Housebound.
34:06What do you expect the size of you, mate?
34:08This one can get out, mate,
34:09and get it back.
34:10I can't get out.
34:11It's just, ever since I left him,
34:13I've had anxiety issues.
34:15Yeah, yeah.
34:16Since you left him,
34:17you've had dietary issues.
34:18No, and dietary issues.
34:20What?
34:20I'm big.
34:21Because I'm big.
34:22Does it matter?
34:23I'm lazy.
34:23You are.
34:24I hold my hands up.
34:25I am lazy.
34:25Sorry, what was that?
34:28You don't blame me for your diabetes.
34:30Yeah, I blame you for your...
34:30My diabetes is my own fault.
34:33Exactly.
34:33She's blaming me for her anxiety.
34:35Yeah, because you used to keep me in the house.
34:37Really?
34:38Really?
34:38Yeah.
34:40Excuse me.
34:40I don't think so, love,
34:41because we know all of this.
34:43At the end of the day,
34:44you hate him lazy, yeah?
34:45But hang on,
34:46I've got type 2 diabetes, love.
34:47Do you see me that fat?
34:49You've had surgery.
34:50No, I haven't had another surgery.
34:52I've had no surgery, mate.
34:54You can check my medical notes.
34:56I'm talking to your diabetes,
34:58I've had no surgery, mate.
34:59Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
35:06I've had no surgery, mate.
35:07You've had no surgery, mate.
35:09You've had no surgery, mate.
35:13So you're saying...
35:15So, Jeremy,
35:16hypnotherapy is a cluster surgery on your body.
35:19Yeah, but you've had...
35:20You've had help with your body.
35:22Hypnotherapy!
35:23I have mobility issues anyway.
35:26Hypnotherapy, mate,
35:27that damn cluster surgery, mate,
35:28is because I want to get off...
35:30do something with my life.
35:31I am trying to get off a...
35:33do something with my life.
35:33do stuff.
35:33Yes, I am.
35:34You ain't trying hard enough for me, love.
35:37You ain't trying hard enough for me to get...
35:39Do you ever...
35:40Do you ever get a word in?
35:41No.
35:42He doesn't answer.
35:43We haven't let him shut up!
35:44See?
35:44Point taken.
35:45I never do.
35:46Even when I try to talk to you once again,
35:48you always take over.
35:49I say to you,
35:50the kids are old enough to make the home decisions.
35:51Don't say that.
35:52You've used it too many times already.
35:54No, but it's true!
35:55Well, what about when they were younger, Jackie?
35:56We're not talking about that.
35:57We're talking about that now, aren't we?
35:59Well, no.
36:00You know what I mean?
36:00Matthew came to me,
36:01he spent two weeks with me,
36:02when I fed him and I clouted him and everything.
36:04Yeah, well, Fred,
36:05who's dear?
36:05He was with us?
36:06Well, why is it so nice about me not being a stepmom?
36:09Because he wasn't we,
36:10he wasn't meant to be with you,
36:12he was meant to be with his dad
36:13because he came back from holiday with his dad.
36:14Yeah, because his dad was there as well!
36:16He spent time with me and his dad!
36:17Well, he's not paying, not you!
36:18Excuse me,
36:19we both paid.
36:20This is what I'm trying to get here!
36:20We both paid at the end of the day.
36:22We're a couple,
36:23we do things together.
36:23Exactly!
36:24We do things,
36:25we take them to the fair.
36:26When was the last time you did an activity with your kids, Jackie?
36:29Can I tell you what?
36:30Never!
36:31Because you can't get off your lazy fat...
36:32You and...
36:33and have all my kids taken off to me!
36:37I've had enough!
36:41Yeah,
36:41because you have to run,
36:42because you can't buy some money from you!
36:45And that's for you!
36:46Yeah!
36:48That's all you can do, Jackie!
36:50That's all she can do!
36:51Could you come with me?
36:52I'm a little bit confused.
36:53I spend my life being confused.
36:55I don't quite know what's going...
36:56Come on, Johnny!
36:57Wait!
36:57I'm here!
36:58I'm here!
36:59Don't worry!
37:00Get her away!
37:01She wants full custody of your kids, doesn't it?
37:02Well, she can't!
37:03Because they're not...
37:04How can she get off...
37:05They're 38 years of age!
37:06They might make their own mind up!
37:08How can you get...
37:08Well, I've got to ask Matthew if he wants to move in to apply to me...
37:11Well, go ahead!
37:13That's all right, Matthew!
37:14I do like you,
37:15but you make it sound like you're too keen to score points, Kelly.
37:18No, just how they haven't answered any of your calls or any messages.
37:21Yeah, because they haven't answered my calls because of you!
37:23That's why!
37:24Not because of me!
37:25Well, okay, then go on Facebook, Jackie.
37:27You like the comments!
37:28Your own children like the comments on Facebook!
37:31I'm going to...
37:32I'm going to...
37:32I'm going to go.
37:35It's been really a marvellous thing.
37:37I'm not doing this no more, because I've just had enough...
37:39No, because you can't do it, Jackie, because you know I'm telling the truth!
37:42You wouldn't know the truth!
37:43Your children are old enough to decide who they want to spend time with,
37:46and maybe if they watch you two bitching at each other,
37:49maybe they don't want to be with either of you.
37:51And as for you...
37:53Please!
37:53Hello!
37:54As for you, and the risk of you having a go at me,
37:57your whole demeanour smacks of domineering women.
38:01The kids are 19...
38:02Be quiet!
38:0319 and 16.
38:04Step up!
38:05Step up!
38:06You should be talking, not her!
38:08The two of you had two kids!
38:09She can be involved, you can be involved, you can be involved!
38:12But I tell you what, when this goes out, they probably want to run in the opposite direction,
38:15not be involved with anybody!
38:16Give them a round of applause, I'm done!
38:19APPLAUSE
38:24Well, I need therapy back after this break!
38:27They've been all over the web.
38:29Who pooped in the caravan's fridge?
38:30And now, it's time to find out...
38:33There's no other choice if we come back, you know, I have to prove myself.
38:39APPLAUSE
38:46You might just recognise my next guest from a particularly shocking episode.
38:50Let me tell you this, my friends.
38:50This episode got more comments than any other in the history of this show.
38:55And we've been doing this for 11 years.
38:57Take a look at this!
38:59You shouldn't be here!
39:00You've no right to have been here!
39:02Who was that?
39:03Erm, that's me crazy aunt.
39:05That was Aunty Eileen.
39:06So she came to see some members of the family and this money went missing.
39:10Yeah, that's right.
39:10Did you steal the money?
39:11No, I didn't.
39:11She said that we all shared it out.
39:13You didn't steal the money?
39:14No, I didn't.
39:15Yes, I did.
39:16How many people have done...
39:16Has everybody done a lie detector?
39:17Yeah, we all have.
39:18All of you?
39:18So that's you?
39:19All the ones are blamed.
39:20Theresa?
39:21Yes.
39:21Mary Junior?
39:22Yes.
39:22Has your mother done one as well?
39:23Yes, she has all of us.
39:25Tell me about the voodoo doll.
39:26The voodoo doll?
39:28Erm, she got a voodoo doll and she gave it all stitches all around everywhere.
39:32And she said she's cursing me mum.
39:35Yeah.
39:36Since the mother got the voodoo doll, that's the senior Mary.
39:39Yeah.
39:39What's happened to her?
39:41She's got six stitches on the side of her foreheads.
39:44Erm, she fell over and she injured all her arm, her arm and her shoulder.
39:47There, there's the scar.
39:50And her leg is really swelled up.
39:52She accused your partner of, erm, what?
39:57Doing something in her fridge.
39:59You won't say the word, will you?
40:01No.
40:01Pooing.
40:05The fridge is like only this big.
40:08Did you accuse her husband of having a poop in your fridge?
40:10No, I did not.
40:12She done it.
40:12And she cleared it out.
40:13And you did a poop in the fridge?
40:15Give me a lady to take your test and I'll prove it.
40:17She cleared out my fridge, she took pity me.
40:19And the poo was on her knees and she washed it out.
40:21And I swear in the Holy Bible, she done that.
40:23Did you do a poo in her fridge?
40:25She did, yes, she did.
40:26Do you know what is the most extraordinary thing about this story?
40:29You don't seem bothered about the 1,200 quid.
40:31You just want to know who's done her what's in your fridge.
40:33I hate myself for asking, did you have a poop in her fridge?
40:37No, I did not.
40:38No.
40:38None of you have had a poop?
40:40How did the poop get it?
40:41I don't even care about the money.
40:43I just want to have a poop.
40:43Don't hit me.
40:44Don't hit me.
40:46If I do the money test, would you, oh God, how do I do this?
40:49Would you stay...
40:53Host carried off stage crying hysterically.
40:57Mother, I apologise.
40:58Will you come back tomorrow and all do a lie detector
41:01to prove that you didn't poop in her fridge?
41:03Yes, yes, yes, yes.
41:04Can you imagine the headline?
41:06Today on the Jeremy Kyle show,
41:08did my sister and her kids take a poop in my fridge?
41:12Well, let's predict...
41:15I've got a complete public outcry
41:18that we didn't get to find the answer.
41:20So, these ladies, unfortunately,
41:23have been the subject of national newspaper discussions.
41:25They've been all over the web.
41:26Who pooped in the caravan's fridge?
41:28And now it's time to find out because all three are back.
41:32Kathleen, Theresa and Mary are back on the Jeremy Kyle show!
41:47One of you dirty women. How are you?
41:51I've never known such classy women sit on this stage of Louboutins.
41:54I've just been accused of pooping in the fridge.
41:57How are you?
41:58Lovely, thanks.
41:59It's been...
42:00Sit back and relax, Kathleen.
42:03It's been...
42:03It's been...
42:04It's been a bit shocking, the outcry, hasn't it?
42:07It has.
42:08I mean, to be fair, she came along and accused you...
42:11She's not back, by the way, the old bird, is she?
42:12No, she doesn't come today.
42:15She was here accusing you all of stealing money.
42:19You all passed the lie detector.
42:20Please do sit back because I can't see other people.
42:22Sorry.
42:22You all sat back, right.
42:25And now this outrageous slur.
42:28I know you're...
42:28You actually say, I'm too posh to even say the word.
42:31That's right.
42:32Why?
42:32Because I don't say the word.
42:33It's horrible.
42:34It's disgusting.
42:35Well, it is disgusting.
42:36It really is.
42:36Can I...
42:37Can I just...
42:37I mean, it's probably, you know, the most shocking thing I've ever had to do.
42:42None of you really did this, did you?
42:43You're all...
42:44Oh, my God.
42:44We'd rather be dead before we do anything like that.
42:47You'd rather be dead than having a poo in somebody's crib?
42:49Oh, Jesus.
42:50Oh.
42:50What about you, Theresa?
42:51How are you?
42:52It's disgusting.
42:53Yeah.
42:53I don't even like the thought of it.
42:54It's horrible.
42:55And, Mary, to be fair, I mean, what's it been like since it blew up on the internet and
42:59the press?
42:59It's been a bit embarrassing.
43:00Yeah.
43:02It has been a little bit of...
43:03Look, we've got headlines here.
43:04Not being funny, but I waited 24 hours to find out who pooed in the mad lady's fridge
43:08and the show didn't even tell us.
43:09Hashcat Jeremy Kyle.
43:10Any others?
43:11That's Tasha.
43:12Did you steal her money and did you have a poop in her fridge?
43:14It's all kicking off from Jeremy Kyle this morning.
43:16Richard Osman there from Pointless, isn't it?
43:18Anything else?
43:19Show me up.
43:20Come on.
43:21Me and my sisters will prove we haven't done a poo in your fridge, Jeremy Kyle.
43:25So it's been...
43:26Look, she looks...
43:27You look so upset.
43:28Are you all right?
43:28You don't want to be here, do you?
43:30Thanks very much.
43:32Fuming.
43:32Fuming.
43:32Are we not finding out about the poo today?
43:35Hashtag Jeremy Kyle.
43:36Hashtag poo-gate.
43:38Did woman poo in aunt's fridge?
43:40Jeremy Kyle views demand answers to most disgusting family row ever.
43:44Did you poo in my fridge?
43:46Voodoo aunt accuses family after cursing her own...
43:49All right!
43:49I've had enough of the poo!
43:57Obviously, obviously it's embarrassing and obviously you wouldn't do this.
44:00You've told my team, all of you, that this lady simply threw this out because she was trying to make
44:04a cheap jibe.
44:06What's your relationship like with the lady from before?
44:10Or anything at all?
44:11Or is it over?
44:11I haven't seen her since.
44:13And I prefer not to.
44:14What about your mum?
44:15Same goes for my mum too.
44:17I prefer just to keep away.
44:19I've told my team, Theresa, that your community has criticised you.
44:22Why?
44:22Because they've been doing silly things on the phone, like making stupid videos and stuff.
44:29And saying, like, oh, she didn't deal with Kathleen.
44:32Treason must have done it.
44:33Why did you come back?
44:34A disgusting thing.
44:34Because I came back because I'm very embarrassed and I'm very disgusted about what's going about, about me and my
44:41family.
44:42And obviously, travelling culture were very, like, proud people.
44:44And I've got, like, a family of kids.
44:47And obviously, I've got a family there.
44:49And I've come to clear myself, clear my name, of course, and my family.
44:53To prove that my aunt...
44:54That's important.
44:54It's very disgusting and pathetic what she's done.
44:58She's out of the ordinary.
44:59Mary, you made a really strong point to the team that this was just her throwing something out.
45:04But actually, on a serious note, it has impacted on you all.
45:07And that's why you wanted to do this.
45:09To just say, do you know what?
45:10That shows that woman to be what we believe her to be.
45:13We're coming back and we're going to do this.
45:15You look like you'd rather be anywhere else in the world than here.
45:18Yeah, because there's no other choice for coming back.
45:20You know, I have to prove myself.
45:22Right.
45:23I don't think I've ever, ever, whatever Jeremy Cowell show has done,
45:26I don't think I've ever had to say that we're going to do a treble lie detector
45:28on whether one of you pooed in somebody else's fridge in their caravan.
45:32It's disgusting.
45:33You're all right.
45:33You're fine.
45:34It's fine.
45:34Don't worry about it.
45:35You look like you're going to be sick when I say the word poo.
45:38Oh, dear God.
45:39Right.
45:41Theresa.
45:42Hands up.
45:42Who's Theresa?
45:43Put your hand up.
45:44Good girl.
45:45I'm really sorry about this.
45:47I have to do this.
45:47Did you poo in the fridge?
45:48It's a question we asked.
45:50Oh, God, no.
45:51What?
45:51Go and kill myself first.
45:53She said no.
45:54She was telling the truth.
45:58Clear.
45:58Sorry.
45:59Put the camera on me.
46:00Put the camera here.
46:02Completely exonerated.
46:03Didn't poo.
46:04Didn't know who did poo.
46:05Theresa is in the clear.
46:07Well done.
46:08Cleaning better now?
46:09Good.
46:12Mary.
46:13How are you?
46:13Been very quiet.
46:14You didn't do it.
46:15They accused you of doing it earlier.
46:16No?
46:17Did you poo in the fridge?
46:18She said no.
46:19Mary was telling the truth as well.
46:20Give her a round of applause.
46:23Go on the camera.
46:25Mary did not poo or didn't know who put you free.
46:28She did it.
46:29Absolutely.
46:29Give her a round of applause.
46:30Do you know what?
46:31Do you know what?
46:32Forget it.
46:33All of them passed the test.
46:35Kathleen, you're there.
46:41To be honest, when they said you were coming back, I sort of went, really?
46:45At the end of the day, it was obviously something that was thrown out in the heat at the moment.
46:48You've come here and you proved that you didn't steal the money.
46:50You've come back and done that.
46:51Nobody should think badly of you.
46:52At the end of the day, somebody made a horrible slur and you decided to deal with it.
46:57All right?
46:57We really appreciate you coming back.
46:58Thank you so much, all right?
46:59Thank you so much.
46:59We'll let you go that way, all right?
47:00Love to, everybody.
47:01Take care.
47:02Thank you very much, Steve.
47:02Give them a round of applause.
47:07Who wrote this?
47:09Hey.
47:09Ready?
47:09Right?
47:10Well, that's cleared up that mess.
47:13Yay!
47:15We got right to the bottom of that one.
47:18I'm out of time.
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47:21The details are on screen to the guests, to the audience, and to you at home.
47:24Thanks for watching.
47:24See you very soon.
47:25Take care.
47:25Bye-bye for now.
47:28Wrapped up, so consumed by all this hurt.
47:34If you ask me, don't know where to start.
47:40Fear here is that this is cancerous, right?
47:43Yeah.
47:44I don't think you'll see five years
47:47Why'd you get defensive when I mention alcohol?
47:50How excited are you about finding out sex at the wedding?
47:53Really excited
47:54In your family, two men have had breast cancer
47:59I'm really scared that one day I'm going to end up dying from starving to death, basically
48:03You can put your finger under your kneecap
48:08This overgrowth condition, I was the first person in the world
48:10What you have done is unbelievable
48:13We did an MRI scan
48:1539 stone to 17
48:17If you try adding nothing, you can do it
48:19If you want it, add enough
48:20The fear is that this will never change
48:22Absolutely, or that I'll end up in a wheelchair
48:25It's really good news
48:30I'm out of the mood, I'm speechless
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