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00:00Kia ora listeners, my name is Toby Buchanan and you're listening to my true crime podcast, Small Town Scandal, where
00:08I try and solve the mystery of who killed my Uncle Mitch.
00:12This is episode 5. As of last episode, I found some CCTV footage of a car driving onto Uncle Mitch's
00:20road.
00:20An hour before he died.
00:22Yes, and that.
00:2438 minutes after.
00:26I couldn't make out the number plate, but I did clock some other key details.
00:31Before I could investigate, though, I had a few things to take care of.
00:35A dinner catch-up with friends and a quick pitch call to an old friend across the ditch.
00:44Hi, Belinda, how are you?
00:47Thanks for picking up.
00:50Oh, yeah.
00:51Anyway, I sent you an email with the first episode of my podcast.
00:55Did you happen to listen to it, or...?
00:57I listened to it.
00:58You did?
01:00Oh, great, thank you.
01:01Well, great, that's awesome.
01:03Yeah, I'll be straight with you.
01:04Any...
01:04It's pretty average.
01:07Yeah.
01:07I was intrigued, though.
01:10You were?
01:11If there's a satisfying ending to this, then you can definitively find whoever it was that did your Uncle in.
01:16Then you'll publish my podcast?
01:19I'll think about publishing your podcast.
01:21Oh, Belinda, Belinda, Belinda, thank you.
01:24Yeah, that's great.
01:25Calm down, there are no promises, and I'm still most likely to say get lost with it.
01:28And if we'd have beat this Mrs Moth podcast, I'll need something by the end of the week.
01:32Otherwise, it's a no deal.
01:39But there was no time to celebrate becoming a professional podcaster.
01:44It was time for dinner with my old school crush, Katie Jerram, and her cop husband, Matt McKenzie.
01:49Get it, Tubs?
01:49Oi.
01:51Don't just stand there like you shit yourself.
01:52Come on in.
01:52It's right.
01:53It's right.
01:56Shoes?
01:57Oh, yeah.
01:59Just so you know, this whole thing was Kayleigh's idea.
02:01What is?
02:03You'll find out.
02:04Oh.
02:08Tubs, this is Honor.
02:10Honor, this is Tubs.
02:11Toby.
02:12Toby.
02:13Hi.
02:14Hey.
02:16Well, I might leave you two to get acquainted while I acquaint myself with another barooski.
02:21Chuck us that ice cream, mate.
02:24Oh, oh, settle down, Mel Meningo.
02:28Hi.
02:29And we met the other day at the hyper mega store.
02:34Oh, yeah.
02:36Oh, nice to meet you again.
02:37Oh, yeah.
02:38Ah!
02:40Watch out, they're assholes.
02:42Oh.
02:42Oh.
02:44Looks like someone's getting on like a house with fire.
02:48Hi, Tubs.
02:48How's it going?
02:49Mwah.
02:51Do you want anything from here?
02:53Girthy gherkin?
02:54Yeah, um, get a piece of carrot.
02:55Oh.
02:56Yeah.
02:56Yeah.
02:57Nice.
02:57Um, Katie, you look, uh, um, your, uh, your hair looks amazing.
03:02Stop it.
03:02I look like a dog.
03:04Um, I'll go with it.
03:05Oh, you bought wine?
03:06Sparkling red.
03:08I haven't had this since I was like 14.
03:10Cute throwback, Tobes.
03:12Yeah.
03:13Get this down, you big boy.
03:15Oh.
03:15Yeah, jeez, mate.
03:16Pop that away.
03:17Yeah, yeah.
03:18No, I was just thinking maybe, um, maybe, uh, I'll show Tubs a man cave.
03:22Yeah, but he's only just got hair and I think maybe they should be, they should.
03:26No, it's fine.
03:28I'll just leave the girls a bit of gossip time.
03:30Okay, don't be too long, all right?
03:32Dinner's nearly up.
03:33We're having schnapps out.
03:34Oh, yeah.
03:35Great.
03:36Sure.
03:37Come on.
03:37Yeah.
03:39Yeah.
03:44Here we are.
03:45Fruits of my labor.
03:49So, uh, honor.
03:52Pretty cute, huh?
03:53Yeah, you know, she seems really nice.
03:56Katie reckons you'd make a good couple.
03:58Can't see it myself, but, uh, challenge is there, mate?
04:01Yeah.
04:04No, listen.
04:07I didn't want to say in front of the girls, but, uh, we've decided to take another look
04:11at your Uncle Mitch's death.
04:13Yeah, it's a total war-like, but there are a couple of, uh, well, let's call them questions
04:18being raised.
04:20Seriously?
04:20Like, what kind of questions?
04:23Oh, I'm not at liberty to discuss police matters with civilians, but I will say we're,
04:28um, we're looking at a person of interest.
04:32Hey, you haven't seen your old man around, have you?
04:36My dad?
04:37Yeah.
04:38No, he's ever in Oz.
04:41Well, if you do see him, I suggest you let us know.
04:44We'd love to have a wee chat.
04:49What do you want to chat to my dad about?
04:51Man's a bit of a moron, isn't he?
04:53I mean, he's got a record.
04:55You know, it must have been tough watching his brothers rise to success.
04:59Imagine being a dropkick, and then your brother's out there making millions, though.
05:04Enough to make any man jealous.
05:06Especially a bottom feeder like Bruce Buchanan.
05:11No offence.
05:12Okay, my dad wouldn't kill his own brother.
05:15Yes, dad has his problems, but, you know, he's not a murderer.
05:19And besides, he's not even here, he's in Australia, and also, my dad is a good guy.
05:23Your mum agree with that?
05:25Look, they split up because my dad is useless.
05:28He's, but, well, not useless, but he's, like, she doesn't hate him or anything.
05:32Please, don't agree.
05:33Oh, shit.
05:34Better not keep on awaiting.
05:36Hey, um, just remember, if your useless dad does drag himself into town, I want to be the first to
05:44know.
05:48Matt!
05:51How's the party going?
05:53Do you think Dad's in town, Mum?
05:55The police are saying that he could be here, and I just tried to call him, but he didn't answer.
06:01I called him yesterday.
06:02You were there.
06:03He was still in Cannes.
06:05Are we sure about that, though?
06:07Well, yes.
06:08That's what he said.
06:10Well, he was intoxicated.
06:15If he was in town, he would have called us.
06:17I don't think he came back to...
06:21No, you're right.
06:22He's not in town.
06:23He can't be.
06:24All right, there, Cubs?
06:26Pinch it off, mate.
06:27We're all waiting for you to eat.
06:28Must be a monster of a shit.
06:29Are you calling me on the toilet, Toby?
06:34Yeah, I want to be a tick, mate.
06:39It's good.
06:44So, I heard you were making a podcast.
06:46Oh, oh.
06:46Not anymore, eh, Tubs?
06:48I love podcasts.
06:50Give me a murder mystery and a bag of burger rings on the couch, and I'm in heaven.
06:55I love burger rings.
06:59That's right.
07:00Um, do you listen to David Patterson?
07:03I love David Patterson.
07:05Oh, who's David Patterson?
07:07Um, you know the Mrs. Moth series?
07:09Oh, Mrs. Moth.
07:09That's the, um, serial killer babe.
07:11Yeah, she infiltrates gangs and then kills them brutally.
07:14Actually, she kills non-gang members as well.
07:16Really?
07:17Is she still at large?
07:18Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:19They haven't caught her yet.
07:19Well, I hope she's not hiding out around here.
07:21I mean, in the latest episode, they said they think she is around here.
07:25What?
07:25Don't tell me that, Matt.
07:26Do you know about this case?
07:28Oh, my God.
07:28What can you tell us?
07:29Oh.
07:31Oh, Matt, come on.
07:32No, I can't.
07:33Come on.
07:33Tell us.
07:34Tell us.
07:35Tell us.
07:35Tell us with your mouth.
07:36I'm not going to say anything in front of these guys.
07:42My podcast is about the suspicious circumstances around Uncle Mitch's death.
07:46Well, it was until we had that cease and desist conversation.
07:50Mitch died of a heart attack, so I guess it's solved.
07:54Do you know what solves cases?
07:56Police work.
07:58Not your little podcasts.
08:01Actually, an investigative podcast should light on new evidence all the time.
08:04Oh, really?
08:05Oh, really?
08:05Hmm?
08:06Hmm.
08:11It's all a bit grim for me.
08:12You know, I think that a podcast about horse breeding would do so well.
08:17Horse breeding?
08:18Hey, no one wants to hear a podcast about guys who wank off horses.
08:21I do.
08:22I'd love that.
08:22It's more to horse breeding than jerking off horses.
08:25Oh, oh, oh, oh.
08:26Oh, damn.
08:28Mackenzie, stop that.
08:29That.
08:31Stop it.
08:32All right, boys.
08:32All right, boys.
08:33Stop it.
08:34Pastacles.
08:35Stay right there.
08:36Sorry.
08:37Got a good bloody swing on them, the three of them.
08:39I'm so sorry to him.
08:41Are you okay?
08:45Guys, we're going to be a few minutes.
08:48Are you okay?
08:48Yes.
08:50If you need some frozen peas, they're in the garage freezer, okay?
08:53If you do go in there, can you get the viennetta?
08:56Okay.
08:58There was no need for the frozen peas, but I did go and get the viennetta I bought for
09:03dessert.
09:06Funny how such a little decision could yank me right back into my investigation.
09:24Holy fudge.
09:26What the heck?
09:28The car in Katie and Matt's garage was the one on the CCTV footage going to Uncle Mitch's
09:33place the day he died.
09:34The cartoon family confirmed it.
09:36And then it hit me.
09:38This was the very car that Katie had driven me to the hotel in.
09:42Why was I such a goober that hadn't even noticed that?
09:46Or had it maybe been Matt, who was using Katie's car for pointing the finger at Dad to get me
09:52off the scent?
10:02I was thinking about how I left the cash or just a bit.
10:04Oh, that's really interesting.
10:10Oh, there he is.
10:12Oh, thank you.
10:13I thought you might have found the dead bodies.
10:14Oh, stop.
10:15Thanks, Tobes.
10:17This is just Matt's terrible joke about my garage freezer.
10:22He thinks that's where I'm going to keep my thick tans.
10:24Ooh.
10:25Ooh.
10:27I bet you've tucked into a few viennettas in your time, have you, Tubs?
10:32Uh, oh, no, um, no, we only had viennettas at special occasions at our house.
10:39How classy.
10:41And it was at that moment, thinking about Matt's smug audacity to blame my dad for the hideous
10:46crime, that I was tipped over the edge and regrettably went on the offence.
10:51So, who was driving?
10:56Sorry, what?
10:58Sorry?
10:59The car in the garage.
11:01I saw it on the CCTV footage, driving on to Uncle Mitch's road the day he died.
11:07I was just wondering which one of you was driving the car.
11:10I don't think you know what you're talking about there, mate.
11:12That's Katie's car.
11:15Yeah, that one's my car, but I, like, I wasn't, um, uh, driving.
11:21Sorry.
11:22Sorry.
11:22Um, what are you saying about the car?
11:27So, were you just casually visiting Uncle Mitch at his mansion the day he died?
11:30Is that what happened?
11:31I'm sure I like your tone there, mate.
11:33Yeah, but I'm sure it's got nothing to do with his actual death, does it?
11:36What?
11:37Don't be.
11:37What is this?
11:39What are you implying?
11:40I guess I'm just asking Katie what her car was doing on a dead end road, arriving an hour
11:45before Uncle Mitch died and then leaving shortly after he died.
11:50You know, and whether she reported that to the police or not.
11:53Wow.
11:54You know, half the police force is here in this arsehole.
11:58All right, Tubbs.
12:00I think it's time for you to leave.
12:01You clearly had a bit much to drink.
12:03Time to go home and sleep it off, eh?
12:04I haven't even had one beer.
12:05Yeah, well, some people are more sensitive to booze.
12:07Give us your keys.
12:07No.
12:08I'm not giving you my keys.
12:10I'm not giving you my keys.
12:11No.
12:11Give me your keys, Tubbs.
12:12I'm not giving you my keys.
12:13No.
12:13Give me your keys.
12:14Give me your keys, Tubbs.
12:16What the...
12:16What are you doing?
12:18Give me...
12:18Oh, my God.
12:20Next.
12:23Oh.
12:25Oh, my God.
12:26Oh.
12:27Oh.
12:28Oh.
12:29Oh, the right move, Tubbs.
12:31Oh.
12:34Easy, easy, easy.
12:37Oh.
12:37Agh!
12:40Agh!
12:41Agh!
12:42Agh!
12:42Agh!
12:44Agh!
12:45Agh!
12:46Agh!
12:48Pull yourself.
12:49They'll be a frowns now.
12:51Oh, piss head.
13:04The next morning, with frocks in the fields bearing
13:07down on her, Mum was in a foul mood.
13:10Keep still, Cousin Carol.
13:12I'm trying to pin it.
13:14How did the dinner go?
13:17Mmm.
13:17Not good.
13:18I had a big fight with Matt.
13:20Over Katie?
13:21Oh.
13:22Toby, she's a married woman.
13:24Whatever, Katie.
13:25Mum, whatever.
13:26I don't even like her like that.
13:27Oh, please.
13:28You've been pining over her ever since primary school.
13:31Do you remember Katie Jarum, Cousin Carol?
13:35Oh, yeah.
13:36Yeah.
13:37Wasn't she quite bosomous?
13:38Mm-hmm.
13:38Oh, yes.
13:39Even an intermediate, her mother made me put darts in her school uniform.
13:43Oh.
13:44Oh, you would've made such a cute couple.
13:46Well, whatever, Mum.
13:49Oh.
13:50Oh.
13:51Go catch that for me.
13:52No, I don't want to.
13:53Stop being so childish!
14:01Hi.
14:09Hello?
14:12Put your mum's car back.
14:14Oh.
14:14And I just parked there.
14:16I hope that's okay.
14:18I think so.
14:22I, uh, I really wanted to apologise for last night.
14:25What, for your kids attacking me or your husband manhandling me and stealing my keys?
14:30All of that, that you said, I'm sorry about.
14:39Maybe we can just forget about everything.
14:42Well, unless you're gonna tell me why your car was at Uncle Mitch's when he died, I don't
14:46think I can just move on.
14:53Toby, I mean, I...
14:55Toby, it's not that simple.
14:56Like, I...
14:59Oh!
15:00Oh!
15:01Just stop being so childish!
15:09Mum says I need to drive you home.
15:14So I drove Katie home in absolute silence, unable to shake the feeling I was sitting beside
15:20Uncle Mitch's attractive killer.
15:23I didn't know how to broach the elephant in the room, but thankfully, like the insect, Katie did.
15:34Okay.
15:36Toby, I...
15:37I have to tell you something.
15:40When Mitch died, I was there.
15:44Holy fudge.
15:45Was my relentless investigative grind finally about to bear fruit?
15:53I...
15:53I...
15:54I didn't do it, and I don't know who did, but I was there.
16:01I went to the mansion to blackmail Mitch.
16:04Oh.
16:06But I can explain.
16:08When...
16:12I've...
16:17It's okay.
16:18I'm sorry.
16:19I'm sorry.
16:19I'm sorry.
16:20Sorry.
16:21When I first heard that Mitch was selling the business, I panicked.
16:24You know, he'd promised me a management position at the Newcastle branch, and I thought,
16:28this is my way out of Te Hoyo.
16:30And so I went to Mitch's mansion.
16:33I go there sometimes to help him with his computer, because he's such a boomer, so...
16:38I made these photos of us, Mitch and I.
16:41Like, illicit pictures, you know, damning ones.
16:48But I just made them with Photoshop and AI.
16:50I planned to blackmail him into pushing ahead with my Newcastle promotion, but then I lost my nerve.
16:56And I thought, well, I better get out of here before anyone sees me, you know.
17:02And then I heard Mitch talking with someone outside.
17:09That's when I heard the scream.
17:17Um...
17:18Sorry, Katie.
17:20I'm sorry.
17:21It's alright.
17:24Um...
17:25Scream.
17:26That's when I heard the scream.
17:28No!
17:29No!
17:29No!
17:30No!
17:30No!
17:30No!
17:32No!
17:33No!
17:34No!
17:35And I forgot about the goddamn photos, and I ran in to see what all the commotion was.
17:38No!
17:39No!
17:40No!
17:41No!
17:41He was already dead.
17:43I didn't know what to do.
17:44No!
17:44And I thought, it's probably gonna be really bad if anyone sees me here.
17:47So I just, I just, so I just ran.
17:51And I ran.
17:53And I keep thinking like I should've gone back and I should've called somebody.
17:57But I was so scared.
18:00When I saw you at the mansion after the funeral...
18:03Katie?
18:04I was just trying to take those stupid photos before anyone saw them.
18:09Toby!
18:10And they're still there?
18:11I hope so.
18:13Toby, it's so awful.
18:16I've been so stupid and I'm sorry that I lied to you.
18:20This whole thing, I mean, it's just a mess, you know, and I think...
18:28I really think it would be better if Matt didn't find out.
18:40You can call her.
18:43Can you just...
18:45Just give him a ring a day?
18:47And say...
18:48Say he got the wrong car.
18:50I mean, half the mums in Tohoiho have a Hyundai.
18:55Um...
18:57Yeah.
19:00Yes, yes, yes, yes.
19:05Oh, it's gone to voicemail.
19:07Leave a message.
19:08Leave a message.
19:09Okay.
19:11Um...
19:11Yeah.
19:12G'day.
19:13G'day, mate.
19:13It's...
19:14It's, um...
19:15It's...
19:16It's, uh...
19:19It's...
19:20It's, um...
19:22Toby.
19:23I'm so sorry about last night.
19:24I...
19:25Um...
19:26I was so drunk.
19:28I was so drunk.
19:30And I looked at the footage, and it could be anyone.
19:33Every mum in Tohoiho has a Hyundai.
19:35And it wasn't Katie.
19:38It got the wrong car.
19:41Bye.
19:48Oh, Katie...
19:51Oh.
19:53Oh.
19:57Oh, Katie.
20:05Oh.
20:09Oh.
20:09Oh.
20:10Oh.
20:10Oh...
20:11Oh.
20:16What did she say?
20:19So Katie's confession closed some doors but it opened others.
20:23So she wasn't the only one there at the mansion that day?
20:26And who was this unidentified man whose voice she overheard?
20:30In any case, I've decided to head to the mansion
20:33to corroborate one particular part of her story.
20:42If Katie was telling the truth,
20:44the envelope with the incriminating photos
20:46would still be in the home office of Uncle Mitch's mansion.
20:52She'd done a great job with the AI, but they were very graphic.
21:08Jane, James, Jane.
21:11Jane?
21:14Jane.
21:22Hello.
21:23Bingo bongo, Drongo.
21:25Yeah, I'm so sorry, mate.
21:27I guess I just wasn't thinking straight last night.
21:30I'm genuinely sorry.
21:32What?
21:33The message I left you.
21:34Mate, I don't check my messages.
21:35No-one checks their messages.
21:36Anyway, your Drongo dad's been spotted at the Memorial Park
21:40here in town.
21:41No, Matt.
21:42My dad is in Australia.
21:43That's where he lives.
21:43He's there.
21:44No, no, no, no, no.
21:45He's here in Tohoiho.
21:47It's been confirmed.
21:48And we have reason to believe he's connected to the murder
21:51of your Uncle Mitch.
21:54We haven't reached out in here.
21:55Now we haven't reached out to our place.
22:09We'll be right back on it.
22:11You stop the phone, man.
22:11There's a lot of time.
22:12At least I got all the time.
22:13Don't like it.
22:15You hit all the time.
22:21We'll be right back on it.
22:22So as soon as you say there's a great subject.
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