00:00That is what makes the audacity so special Jonathan Glatzer is a genius you
00:04know he wrote Succession I know what yeah what were I assume you were a
00:07Succession fan before this or what was your oh my god with that actually
00:13incredible that's never seen Succession no he doesn't know that's incredible
00:19sorry here's the funny part okay so when a little insider trading or whatever I
00:29did a show a pilot called the money okay that was two years before it it was the
00:34guy who did Deadwood same setup same show everything the the show creator and HBO
00:43did not get along our show disappeared and then Succession was what what like
00:48role in that were you Rory no Culkin the Culkin okay oh you were the nasty one
00:54yeah that's the fun one okay same exact show incredible did this come to you
00:58with like a pitch for the show no like I read like a pilot or funny enough you
01:04know where I am in my career there's opportunity like scripts come my way or
01:08whatnot it wasn't an offer or anything I actually got to read Jonathan Glatzer
01:12script and then I was like I want every I want this I want this job I want to work
01:17so hard for it and it was me auditioning testing with Sarah Goldberg who's
01:22fantastic um yeah I had just auditioned for it I went through the ringer to get
01:26there and convinced AMC to let me be a part of it what like what was it and was
01:32it the did you know who you were gonna be or did you like everyone in the the
01:36pilot oh no Duncan Park okay completely okay what was it about him well I think
01:41for me and my career and the opportunities I get this character is so
01:45dense and complicated he's is there is a good man there deep down but I think with
01:52the world that's around him it's narcissistic it's it's control it's these
01:56people in the tech world that are like we are deciding what your future is by
02:01stealing all your information and then making the best decision and that that
02:05crazy dynamic I think it's it makes this like dark comedic drama so intriguing
02:12and engaging how would you describe the tone of the audacity compared to the
02:16tone of the franchise which is also kind of touching on like this crazy world
02:20where there's like some narcissism play you couldn't compare it I would say at
02:25all um ours is just a grounded world with the stakes of you know the world's
02:33technology on hand like what do you do with that what do you when you have all
02:39that power can you be a normal person I don't know before you took the show
02:43what was like your opinion of Silicon Valley interactions with like kind of
02:49where you are coming in like a little I think there's a myriad of a myriad of
02:53reasons to like invest in this like over throughout history there's these times
02:59where these there's renaissance of like information and people and growing it was
03:04this film industry back when it was being created like it all sudden Hollywood
03:08became a thing Silicon Valley is one of those renaissance where like
03:11technology became the most important thing in the world and like who wouldn't
03:16want to be diving into that that universe and understanding it and being like
03:20picking it apart and seeing all the dirty secrets it has so do you remember
03:23that makes sense yeah yeah totally do you remember when you got Facebook I did I was
03:28I was like almost out of college you were okay yeah but were you during the era
03:32where you needed still a college email address to sign up like were you there
03:37yeah I was there pioneers okay I didn't get a smartphone until I was like 27 or
03:41something I was already out do you feel like because of that are you like how
03:45attached are you to your technology funny enough for me personally technology I
03:50have this weird love-hate relationship I think there's so many wonderful things
03:53you can get out of it but I find myself comparing myself to the world in a way
03:59that it's just too much information at one time and I can't you don't you lose
04:04connection with your community I think a lot and like I'm down not engaged with you
04:09you know yeah so it's a love-hate like because like you have information and
04:12everything you need at the same time it's such a distraction social media
04:16aside what is an app like what apps are your like must-haves like a door dash
04:22gin for golf oh I don't know that one okay we got golfers here no no one is it like
04:28you record your yeah just keep that like Strava but for golf um my chess app I love
04:33my chess app I always have to play chess I think Duolingo I love learning
04:37languages I think that's like again technology is an amazing thing I do this
04:41this app every day and I learn a language and it's it's unbelievable
04:45is that where you learned French is on Duolingo Duolingo Italian French yeah
04:50honestly it's just every day going tavolo tavolo tavolo tavolo you know in the show
04:56you have like this curly mop of hair right was that like written into the script or
05:02did you kind of like figure out like what's this guy gonna look like I think that's you
05:05know 20 years being in this industry you read something as beautiful that Glatzer
05:09wrote and you go like I want to create some crazy character that I've seen in
05:14the tech world and I won't be like how can I bleed it together like that's that's my
05:18candy like I get an opportunity to build these these these characters and Duncan
05:23Park is by far my favorite character because he's so so dense so deep Glatzer's
05:29words really are like a Shakespearean play it's it's wild yeah what was it did you try out
05:34any other like in your head try out any other versions of what he was going to
05:38look like or be or did you know that's like that's the best part about this
05:41industry is we're in a communal industry and so you're working with Glatzer with
05:45Lucy Forbes who directed the pilot and you're building it you're trying to see
05:50who this guy is where he lives and yeah how he breathes how he moves how he
05:54interacts and yeah it's it's a gift honestly every time I'd like wake up I'm
05:59like I'm so grateful for the challenge of building this guy how did you find out
06:05because you so that you were auditioning you said you did then you read with
06:08Sarah and then did another thing when did you like so then it was a call like
06:12it's you I got a call thing okay I got a call I had other buddies like whispering
06:16into some AMC's here yeah it was just audition I remember we were it was like
06:22around Christmas time and like I'm walking around my my fiance's parents house just
06:28talking to myself doing these lines over and over again and then they're like is
06:32he okay and then when I got the call but hey it's yours it was I was elated I was
06:37I was in Georgia actually at the time and I didn't know what to do I was like oh my
06:42god my life's changing you know you always think that with every project but the
06:46audacity something about this I don't know I've been doing it for a long time and
06:51it it's I feel like is it your longest dialogue that you've done like does it
06:57stick out as the most dialogue in chunks like monologues no yeah I just think the
07:03dense the density of the idea or the the specificity of the idea is what is
07:07really beautiful like Tina Fey did the same thing with her shows like her jokes
07:11only worked that because they were so specific and I really believe that the
07:15more specific you are with a character with dialogue with with art the more
07:19universal it becomes because art the purpose of art is to not feel alone because I
07:25I have a feeling I just need to express it and to have someone else go oh my god I
07:30feel that too to not feel alone that is the magic and healing power of art in my
07:34opinion where did you film this uh Vancouver oh and and and Sylvan Valley a
07:40little bit Palo Alto yeah okay a couple questions I'm asking everyone who comes in
07:44okay did you ever have um another job like your sliding doors moment if you weren't ever going
07:51to be an actor yeah no like I in college I waited to again this whole like it was so
07:57random how it
07:58all happened I was a um a big wrestler in high school I've ripped a hamstring couldn't take a
08:02uh gym class so they threw me an acting class fell in love with it I thought I was going
08:06to just go to
08:06some university in the southeast and then I had a teacher just go hey go audition for North Carolina
08:12School of the Arts this prestigious acting school I got in and then these two deans Bob Franciscone
08:19and Bob Bessida just the opportunity it was just these two guys just give me the opportunity to like
08:24follow a passion that I didn't know I had and they saw it and like everywhere in my career these
08:30opportunities happen Jonathan Glatzer giving me the job um directors I've worked with to get these
08:35these opportunities they're always a sliding door I guess yeah did you have a major in mind when you
08:41were thinking you were going to go to a call go to college no I just knew I didn't want
08:44to be a
08:44carpenter I grew up in a carpenter's house I was like I'm not doing this I'm glad I have the
08:48skills
08:49but I know every opportunity has just been a gift the other one we're asking do you remember with your
08:56first acting job that you made enough where you could buy yourself something do you remember what
09:01you bought like your first gift to yourself my first gift to myself so I remember and so the
09:07fortunate thing when I got out of college I actually got on a soap opera I was on a soap
09:12opera for like
09:13three years as the world turns in New York City I'm 21 years old making 2,000 bucks a week
09:20and I'm
09:20like holy cow I'm rich I think it was paying rent in a decent apartment instead of like living in
09:27a
09:27buddy's place yeah that's probably the first gift I gave myself
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