00:00Alors, un des grands thÚmes de l'année derniÚre est l'artificial intelligence.
00:04Je pense qu'on a l'impression que l'AI a été le mainstream,
00:07c'est-Ă -dire de l'achat de GPT.
00:09Je suis heureux de maintenant présenter l'AI expert et CEO de Jumbo Mena,
00:15qui est Christophe Renaud-Dinou.
00:17Bienvenue Ă la show.
00:19Merci.
00:20Tell me, first of all, Jumbo Mena.
00:23Yes, Jumbo Mena is a startup specialized in behavioral generative AI.
00:29We bring characters to life.
00:31So we developed the technology to transform a puppet wooden into a real boy, like Pinocchio.
00:40So we're presenting today Vincent van Gogh.
00:44We bring Vincent van Gogh to life with its own knowledge,
00:49its own memories, its own voice,
00:53to really create the personality of Vincent van Gogh.
00:59As we think about artificial intelligence,
01:02there's kind of two voices that have emerged right now.
01:05Those that say, go faster, go harder.
01:07And those, including some that developed AI, saying,
01:10whoa, we need to screech the brakes on this
01:13and make sure that we slow down and make sure that it's regulated properly.
01:16Where do you stand?
01:18I think we need to improve our research
01:23and to go to deeply research in AI for a simple reason.
01:28It's the problem right now with AI.
01:32It's AI, it's completely stupid.
01:35So fake news, deep fake, all the bad things of AI are here
01:42because AI don't understand what she means.
01:45She doesn't understand what she generates.
01:48So if you accelerate AI and if AI can understand what she generates,
01:55she could create right content and we could regulate more easily AI.
02:03When it comes to, you know, ChatGPT was the main one,
02:07when it comes to chatbots that can actually help people in their day-to-day life.
02:12Now you have Google Bard.
02:14How do you see that playing out?
02:15Also Meta, we're going to hear from Meta in a little bit about what they're doing with AI.
02:19How do you think the bigger tech companies are trying to position themselves for this revolution?
02:25Yes, obviously.
02:28I think it's a hard race because all models are pretty similar between ChatGPT, Bard or even Yamaha from Meta.
02:41And I think these GAFA are the main competitors in this race and it's very hard to compete with us.
02:57So in Europe, in France, like Jumbo Mana, we prefer to specialize AI in a new way that GAFA don't
03:07go.
03:08For example, create personalities, create responsible, ethical AI and scalable AI.
03:15For us, for example, we can control generative AI.
03:20And it's our own architecture.
03:23We are lead on this kind of architecture, on behavior architectures.
03:29And to make AI more respectful for the data, for our customers, for our users,
03:38and also respectful of the environment.
03:40We create compressed generative AI that reduce the energy consumption with a factor by 100.
03:50And this is our way to compete with Meta or Bard, etc.
03:58Fascinating.
03:58And when it comes to your role here at VivaTech, what are you looking out for?
04:04Who are you looking to meet?
04:05Who are you looking to learn from and connect with?
04:08We are looking for market opportunities because we have a huge, deep tech.
04:15And we are here to see if there are new markets, international markets, to be matched with our product, with
04:26our AI.
04:29Wonderful.
04:30And when it comes to how, you know, Emmanuel Macron, French President Emmanuel Macron, expected to speak today, particularly about
04:37artificial intelligence.
04:38What is somebody like you, an AI founder and CEO and expert?
04:43What is someone like you hoping to hear from the president?
04:46I think it's going the right way.
04:49I think responsible, ethical AI, it's a very big movement to do when you make AI.
04:57And I think in Europe, it will be our strength.
05:02You think it's going to be the strength of Europe?
05:05You like the way it's going right now?
05:07Yes.
05:08And what do you, are there any like concerns you have about where it's going?
05:13Excuse me?
05:14Any concerns that you have?
05:16Fears?
05:20I think we are very far to have AI that exterminate the world.
05:28So my fear is more about raising money and going fast than international competitors to access to data centers, to
05:44train AI, complex AI.
05:47And yes, to have the opportunity and the money to compete with international competitors.
05:55Has it been relatively easy to convince investors to invest in you when you're at the forefront of AI right
06:03now?
06:06Yes, of course.
06:07We have already raised, but we are looking for the next year for our second raise.
06:15And we are looking, of course, investors to invest in our technology, very destructive and with a unique main value
06:31as bringing characters to life with all human behaviors.
06:36We are really specialized in human behaviors to create new avatar like never before.
06:43For tomorrow, don't have Alexa, but a Jumboman AI that can speak with a real avatar like Van Gogh or
06:52Spider-Man or Iron Man.
06:54And to manage your home or your car with a truly authentic and realistic AI.
07:02One thing we haven't talked about yet is the concern that some have.
07:06We had one of our tech correspondents earlier talk about the projections for job losses, right?
07:13You know, there's a lot of discussion happening like, well, technology has always eliminated jobs, you know.
07:20It used to take 50% of the population to be farmers just to feed the other 50%.
07:24Now farming is less than 1%, right?
07:28No one is really crying for the lost jobs in farming or, you know, the elevator services person.
07:34But some people are saying this time could be different because of the regenerative AI and because of all the,
07:40you know, sort of white collar jobs that are projected to be wiped out.
07:44What do you think about that?
07:48The history science tells us that there are never an increase of the curve of the workless.
08:02But like you said, works will be adapt.
08:09People need to adapt to the AI.
08:12Look, I don't think it's a big deal.
08:15But for the few next year, it will be, I think, social problem.
08:23Because when you are 50 and you lost your job, it's very difficult to adapt to train a new job,
08:32new skills.
08:34Yep.
08:34So for older people, I think there are big social issues.
08:43Okay.
08:44But this, I think it's just one point in the history ofâŠ
08:49Yeah.
08:49Wonderful.
08:50Christoph, thank you so much for joining our show here at VivaTech.
08:53Well, I want to go out to the main action.
08:55Let's head out to the main floor here at VivaTech.
08:57Thank you so much for the arrival of bringing Jeff ĐČĐŒĐ”ŃŃĐ” with me on display today.
08:57It's amazing.
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