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00:00Welcome to the Jonathan
00:29and we're back for a brand new series
00:33and we're kicking off 2026 in style my friends this series
00:37is going to be hotter than the first dance of Brooklyn Beckham's wedding
00:41that's right I'm gonna dance on you
00:45we've got a great show on Africa tonight so let's have a look at who's in my
00:48green room first up is a British acting legend you'll know him from Paddington
00:53Notting Hill and of course Downton Abbey basically for British global hit exists
00:58he's probably in it it's Hugh Bonneville
01:08but alongside you is an Oscar winning actor and musician who was once named by Time
01:13magazine as one of the most influential people in the world and I wouldn't
01:16disagree it's Wiz Ahmed
01:23my next guest is an Olympian one of the stars of the world cup winning England women's rugby team
01:30and many people think probably the best rugby player in the world right now
01:33it's Ellie Kildan
01:40but also we have a fabulously funny comedian with us this evening you'll know her from her
01:45brilliant appearances on Last One Laughing live at the Apollo and would I lie to you I'm thrilled she's here
01:50this is by the way her first talk show so let's make an extra welcome it's the hilarious Harriet Kemsley
01:55and we have got music tonight you're gonna love from a singer who sold over 250 million singles worldwide the amazing Jason Derulo
02:10he's a handsome man
02:13he's a handsome man
02:14but just before I get my guests out let me just share this with you because the Winter Olympics officially started last night
02:19and every year they bring in new events this year there's the men's super team ski jump
02:24there's mixed team relay skeleton and there's skimo which is a mashup of skiing and sumo
02:31I made that up I don't know what it is but it's called skimo but my question is this when are we gonna break that glass ceiling
02:37when are we gonna finally see something really different when are we finally gonna see animals at the Olympics
02:43stay with me now we've all seen dog frisbee but if you took that and added snow just imagine how much better it would be
02:50this is dog frisbee on ice
02:53I'll tell you what
03:03he was there for about 15 minutes so let's just we're gonna fast forward it just fast forward it a bit
03:09there you go
03:11see
03:13we've got there in the end
03:15we've got there in the end
03:16how about basketball put that in the snow mix up the walls a bit throw in some dogs
03:21you're on to a winner
03:23are you ready?
03:34see
03:35I'm a big fan of that one
03:37shall we get on with the show?
03:39yeah
03:40let's get my first guest out he is a British icon and she is a rising star of the British comedy scene
03:46it's you Bonneville and Harriet Kemsley
03:48I'm a big fan of Hugh
03:49have you met Hugh before do you know Hugh in the past?
03:50no I don't know Hugh I'm a bit starstruck
03:52it's Paddington's dad
03:54yes
03:55I don't know what to do
03:56I don't know what to do
03:57I don't know what to do
03:58it's crazy
03:59but because everyone loves the Paddington films everyone loves the Paddington films it must have
04:00all of us
04:01come on
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04:12thank you sit down
04:13great to have you here
04:14nice to be here
04:15okay
04:16so Harriet are you a fan of Hugh have you met Hugh before do you know Hugh in the past?
04:18it's Paddington's dad
04:19yes
04:20I don't know what to do
04:21it's crazy
04:22but because everyone loves the Paddington films everyone loves the Paddington films it must have
04:26I would have thought open up a whole new kind of like group of people who like you and appreciate your work
04:30well it's been it's been really wonderful I recently wrote a children's book and I've been on tour in schools and so on
04:36and I tell them in depth things about my characters and the story and then I open to open to questions from the floor
04:43and the first question is always where's Paddington?
04:46yeah
04:47I've heard told they're making another Paddington film there's gonna be another one in the series which is understandable
04:52but I've also heard that you said you won't be reprising the role of Mr Brown
04:55no I think I should put this in context I think I'm just too blooming old I can't do the splits anymore like I did in the second film
05:02so um no never say never but maybe if Mr Brown comes back in a bath chair I could be available
05:07do people though I mean because it's so convincing in the film there must be some people expect Paddington to be real
05:12and want Paddington to be real
05:13well yeah Hugh Grant tells the story I think I think it was his father or a relative who after the first couple of minutes of Paddington 2
05:18leaned over and said is that a real bear?
05:21but it's that convincing?
05:23I know it is I remember when I first saw the first images of the bear being you know created in the editing room
05:30I was completely blown away it was when Paddington sticks his head down the loob in Paddington 1 and I thought wow this is different
05:36it is amazing they are amazing
05:37but wait what do you act with then?
05:38uh we have a variety of uh well Paddington does come out of his trailer eventually in the afternoon
05:43yeah that's right
05:44but when he's uh on a big marmalade day he um we have to have a stand in so we've had Lauren who's done all three films
05:50and she she's the same height as Paddington she puts on his little you know duffel coat his hat and walks through all the scenes with us
05:56then uh then she'll leave the shot and we'll do it again just imagining where he was and sometimes it's a stick with a bit of sticky tape at three foot six
06:03you're a good actor
06:05and thanks for ruining the magic
06:08sorry
06:09but then he comes out with his close-ups
06:11yeah
06:12what other jobs have you had before you were a star Hugh?
06:15uh I worked as a loo cleaner in a lawyer's firm for a bit you know for a while
06:20I've got my hand right around the u-bend I'm pretty good at that
06:22wow and I imagine though that's the sort of job where at the end of the day you would feel it all stands for accomplishment
06:27well particularly if I dislodged what was there
06:30no you know what I mean though you can see what you've done
06:33and you can smell it as well
06:35or rather you can see what other people have done that is notable
06:37but you know what I mean it's like when you're actors on that I'm sure you know you've done a good performance on a day in a film
06:42but of course it's got to be cut to get the finish but when you've cleaned a loo
06:45and you look down and it's sparkling
06:47yeah
06:48you go home with a spring in your step
06:50yeah
06:51what about you Harriet other jobs before comedy took off for you
06:54yeah I worked as a waitress for a bit but I'm very clumsy so I wasn't very good at it
06:58and once I spilt soup all over this woman's head
07:01like she was just out for lunch and she was wearing this white suit and she was completely covered in soup
07:06and then she got really angry like quite rightly but then she started shouting at me
07:10but then I burst into tears so then she had to apologise to me
07:13wow
07:14so it was so unfortunate
07:15because you are am I right in thinking you're dyspraxic
07:18yes
07:19and that is I think most of us know what dyslexia is
07:21but dyspraxia is kind of like a balancing isn't it
07:24it's like a bit clumsy yeah like medically clumsy
07:26how did you find that out
07:27I found out because my sister we were having lunch and then my sister said I was watching embarrassing bodies last night
07:33and I think you might have the same thing as the woman on it
07:35wow
07:36and I was like that's not a sentence you ever want to hear
07:38you know
07:39and she did this test on me that they did on embarrassing bodies as clap test
07:42and I did it at the table and I knocked over two glasses
07:46so then I had to get tested this professor came to my house to test me and I was so nervous and worked up at this test
07:51and what it meant it was going to take all afternoon
07:53and I opened the door to him and I just burst into tears
07:56and I just started crying in his face and I was like come in
07:58I was like crying and then I got my foot stuck in a bowl
08:01and so I was crying with my foot stuck in this bowl
08:03and I was like I'm so sorry just give me one moment while I just get this bowl off of my foot
08:07and then he was like no thank you so much Harry you just saved us five hours
08:10you've got it love I think you've got it
08:13so waitressing not for you anymore
08:15no not for me no
08:17Hugh let's talk about Downton we have to talk about Downton a bit
08:20because Downton Abbey what an amazing achievement what an incredible series
08:25what an incredible series of films as well
08:27and now sadly the story has been told there will be no more
08:31certainly not with
08:33awww
08:34certainly not with our you know cast
08:37but the castle still stands so who knows maybe there will be one set in you know 2060 or something
08:43remarkable success a global a genuinely global success
08:47there's no way you could have predicted that when you were doing the first few shows
08:50no none of us none of us thought it would last beyond the seven episodes that were originally commissioned
08:56because you know period dramas were dead we were told
08:59and um uh and so how wrong you never know you know you never know what's gonna how it's gonna turn out
09:04and we ended up doing whatever it was 52 episodes and three films over 15 years
09:08and great films I cried like a baby in the last one
09:10oh yeah it was a nice farewell
09:12yeah it was beautiful did uh do people do you miss being Lord Grantham
09:16no no I don't no I have huge I have huge love for the show I have huge love for the people and for its legacy and all that
09:23but uh no I'm very happy not having to uh uh get up that early in the morning yeah and go to windy high clear castle
09:29um let's talk about CS Lewis and the play Shadowland and now the exciting news is Hugh is back on stage here in London's glittering West End performing it and it opens this week doesn't it?
09:39that's right yeah we were in previews
09:46tell us about the story because it's a it's quite a beautiful story and a sad story as well
09:50well it's the story of CS Lewis who obviously wrote the uh Narnia Chronicles and he was an academic at Oxford
09:55living a rather sheltered bookish life living with his brother on the outskirts of Oxford and
10:00hanging out with uh Tolkien in the pub and uh being rather donnish and then into his life erupted someone he'd been in correspondence with this woman called Joy Gresham
10:09who is from America and she was a very sort of fizzy energetic character very smart who sort of turns his rather donnish bachelor life upside down
10:18and then she got sick and eventually died and the central sort of story of the play uh CS Lewis was a devout Christian and so the central question of the play is
10:27if God loves us why does he allow us to suffer so much uh and at the heart of this play it's really a story about love uh late flowering love for CS Lewis
10:36and uh and then coping with that uh loss that you know let's face it we all we all have to face at some point or other bereavement
10:42but it's I remember if I remember correctly it's also very funny well I remember being funny in the early part of the play when I saw it years ago
10:49and so I guess you've got it must be a joy to perform because you do have that you're making the audience laugh and you're warming them up and then they do go with you on that emotional journey afterwards
10:57it is it's a it is quite an emotional journey and uh it is quite satisfying when you've got you know big big laughs and you sort of think you know you know wait till you see what's coming
11:05um but uh but it is it's the yin the yin and the yang well but being a stand-up is not dissimilar of course because you have to interact with the audience
11:12do you feed off the audience do you look out and see what kind of reaction you're getting does that help you
11:16yeah if it's a good reaction it really helps um for sure yeah yeah yeah it was a bad reaction it feels really bad
11:22have you had bad reactions yeah yeah so I filmed my special I've only um and so you do two tapings of the special and the first taping I looked into the audience and the man was asleep in the front row
11:33and I was like this is really not ideal but I was like it's fine you have a second taping you know so you can make up for it
11:40it will all be fine second taping I come out I look down the guy's back and he's sleeping there
11:45I was like how did this happen I don't understand who let him back in again he's just trying to find a place to sleep
11:51he loved the experience so much the first time he came back for more
11:55he was like this is so soothing
11:57I suppose and I suppose also with the live audience you know when I go to the theater sometimes you will see
12:02and they're very strict on it now you always get the coughing and that kind of thing and obviously you know that's sort of understandable
12:07but you hope if people are doing it too much they'll take themselves out and you will occasionally get people disrupted
12:12I had a person stand up and go to the toilet halfway through quite a dramatic scene so you must have to deal with that kind of thing
12:16Oh yeah that happened I did a play at the National Theatre years ago with Juliet Stevenson called Yerma
12:21and we were it was in the round and we were in this really tense standoff scene and this bloke just got up and literally walked between us
12:29he said well when you've got to go you've got to go you know and then you've got to come back
12:34so did you just carry you are you can't wait yeah we're there going on about oh our marriage
12:39oh this are we gonna have children boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
12:42did he say excuse me no no he was he was in a rush
12:46he knew what he wanted he was going okay and then he came back again came back again
12:49and he complained about the cleanliness of the toilets
12:51I haven't cleaned that one
12:53okay so you are now going on tour again soon have you yeah okay calling the tour floozy
13:02I called it floozy yeah and my mum did look up what it meant
13:05and it's I thought the idea it the name it's kind of aspirational like everyone's like oh you don't want to come across as a floozy
13:14and I'm like trying to be a floozy you know what I mean it's not easy out there
13:17you're trying to be a floozy so okay let's let's pin down the definition of floozy
13:22in case we have to go floozy is a kind of a good time girl
13:25yeah I'm trying to have a good time okay that's fair enough yeah thank you
13:29okay Jason
13:37Jason we're doing the interview what are we doing?
13:39uh just going to the bathroom
13:41you got the toilet in the middle of the cell
13:43oh am I interrupting some?
13:46Jason Derulo he'll be back
13:49so
13:51so
13:52do you see what we did there?
13:53I know I did I did see what you did there
13:55where were we were talking about uh your flooziness
13:57yeah I'm trying to but the problem is I just um because I'm at this stage in my life where I just I just got divorced
14:02um thank you thank you everybody yeah we got a no-fault divorce it's quite I don't know if you've heard of it it's quite a new thing it's called a no-fault divorce
14:09this sounds like a good idea to me I think I've heard this is where you don't go to court and it's as amicable as it can be
14:13yeah it's called a no-fault divorce you can just do it by paperwork it's called a no-fault divorce but it is his
14:18um
14:19but yeah so I'm divorced and so now I should be like trying to you know I've got this new stage in my life I should be having a fun time but I just get attached it's a problem
14:27but it's about you experiencing the dating scene again I guess yes I'm trying to get out there I'm trying to date again
14:34and are you having success with this no no I'm trying no I am I'm having the thing is I think because I've had my daughter
14:41and so it's like the I've got everything I need you know what I mean so I'm just I've got everything I need so I'm just looking for
14:48that's so lovely and she's four is that right?
14:50she's four yeah
14:51and didn't you take in the early days you could didn't you take on tour with you when you were touring?
14:54yeah so I took her on tour at the beginning and then I had to start leaving her with a babysitter was like the scariest thing that has ever happened
15:01so the first on my left I was like crying and then I was like I know I'll just message and check in and like see how she's doing and that will make me feel better
15:07and the babysitter was really sweet but her English wasn't great and I was like I'll just message and say like is she sleeping and that will make me feel better
15:11and so I messaged and I said is she sleeping and she replied and I think she meant to say yes but her English wasn't great
15:16so what she wrote was her eyes shut she didn't move
15:19she followed up the most terrifying message I've ever received she angel now
15:26what
15:27oh
15:29honey she won't she angel now as well
15:31and then a little angel emotion
15:33but I suppose she meant she was behaving angelically
15:36yes of course yes
15:37that's the worst thing you could possibly get
15:39the worst thing you could say
15:40yeah
15:41okay stick around we're gonna chat some more it's lovely to have you here uh but don't go away because up next we'll be joined
15:45out here by Riz Ahmed so stick around
15:59welcome back to the show let's get my next guest out shall we he's an incredible actor he's a brilliant rapper and he's a director as well a true triple threat it is Mr. Riz Ahmed
16:09that is
16:16you're incredible you look amazing
16:17you look amazing come on out here's you
16:19here's Nadia
16:20here's Nadia
16:23that is сразу
16:25nice to have you back galoo
16:28the hell what
16:30see the only people who call me galoo are my parents and Jonathan Ross
16:34What is that what very straight? What does Gulu actually mean? Dad is that you?
16:39I wish. Moment, yeah. What does it mean? Gulu is my childhood nickname
16:45Does it do this to you guys? Just bring it out and humiliate you. No, there's no humiliation there.
16:49It's my childhood nickname and it means round-o. Round-o? Round
16:54Like round circle and then everyone asked me were you really overweight as a kid and it's more embarrassing that I just had an incredibly circular head
17:01Wow, wow. Yes
17:03It looks like a little football. I know yeah
17:07Now now it's full of angles. It looks great. Thank you
17:11But with serious congratulations though the fact that since last we met you won an oscar
17:18You won an oscar for a brilliant short film it's called the long goodbye and it is brilliant
17:23But I wonder of course something as important as an oscar. It's incredible as an oscar. Where do you keep it?
17:27My mum keeps it hostage
17:31Yeah, basically she keeps it but the thing is every time I go there. I'm like, where is it?
17:37She doesn't put it out on display
17:39And she's like i've got it don't worry about it
17:43It's literally like a hostage situation where it's like what do you want to see the money first?
17:47Like i need to see the oscar. I need proof of life is she worried that you're going to take it back
17:51She's not looking that's really what she's actually
17:53I'm going to be really real with you since you call me golem
17:56The real thing she's worried about is the evil eye
17:59Does anyone here know what the evil eye is?
18:02You know about the evil eye right?
18:04You're nodding i don't think you do have it
18:06Okay, so the evil eye is like let's say if i go oh my god jonathan's such a nice watch
18:11Yeah, thank you
18:12That's a wonderful watch
18:13And then you turn around two minutes later and your watch breaks
18:17Right
18:18Exactly so it's when and so there's this thing in in our culture and a lot of cultures actually
18:23I think it's in greek people albania it's like a big thing
18:27Where you try and hide your successes and just play a little bit low low key because if people go oh wow
18:33That's amazing then disaster will strike so the good fortune that you had if you show it off or or it
18:39Will attract ill fortune it'll take something bad that's exactly the bizarre logic of it
18:44Is there a chance you sold it?
18:47I always wonder where that necklace came from
18:51You know okay before we took a look primarily you an actor okay
18:55But before we uh talk about your new project i must talk to you about your music a little bit
18:59And do you still do the music do you still rap much?
19:02You know what i've had a bit of a break from it um for a little while because of life and family
19:06And partly because i was so busy trying to make this film this passion project of mine
19:09But i'm i'm coming back soon and um yeah we've got got some fun stuff lined up for this year
19:15Before we talk about your passion project do you know uh we have another uh former singer on the show
19:22Right here Hugh Bonneville used to sing in a band
19:28No no no you're a researcher you did sing in a band for about four minutes that's good enough
19:35Can you remember the name of the band name or a song perhaps that you did i think it was the song was called
19:39No more toby it was about beer you like toby bitter yeah does it exist anymore i don't think it exists anymore
19:47No i think the chorus went no more toby no more toby no more toby it was great stuff
19:54Should we go for it let's get to the meat of the matter uh riz has an amazing
19:58New film out as he just said it's a passion project and it might surprise people some people
20:02This is your passion project because it's shakespeare so it's a version of hamlet set in british asian community
20:09You're playing the title role of course which is something most actors i think would love the chance to take on
20:14But of course at the same time it must be intimidating because you know there have been so many great hamlets in the past
20:19Yeah yeah you know it's interesting like when i first wanted to take this project on and i
20:24It took 15 years actually for us to make this i first approached a writer in 2010
20:29Just meant a lot to me um for many different reasons partly because of a relationship i had with an amazing
20:33Schoolteacher um you know back at high school what was their name his name was mr roseblade mr
20:39Yeah he was a white jewish guy from wolverhampton who spoke fluent punjabi hold on
20:44Wow yeah we've all had an english teacher like that right
20:47Um how did mr roseblade have how did he learn punjabi um well i think actually because his
20:53He told me i hope he doesn't mind me sharing his story his mother was a headmaster of a school
20:57Um in wolverhampton in the 50s or 60s and um when the first wave of immigrants came into wolverhampton
21:04There was the first like brown kid in the school joined his mom the headmistress said
21:09You're going to be his best friend make sure he feels welcome make sure he doesn't feel alone wow
21:14And so he befriended this kid became a part of the community he got welcomed into it
21:18Started going to the gurdwara and the temple and and just you know became steeped in the culture amazing story
21:24He's an amazing guy he really is and yeah
21:30But yeah he's someone who kind of when he gave me the play i was like
21:36Hamlet is the this is this is like growing up in wembley you know this is
21:43It's okay hamlet can't marry ophelia she's from the wrong family that's the first one second of all
21:48They're all squabbling over the family business yeah
21:51Third of all your dead dad's ghost comes back to haunt you and he's disappointed in you
21:57Let me show you a little taste of it as i said it's in cinemas now treat yourselves go and see it
22:02My good hamlet we grieved your sickly father while he lived
22:10Let the world take note you are the most immediate to our throne
22:16I pray you stay with us
22:22Who goes there
22:24My uncle is the cause of all this there is a villain dwelling in our home here
22:36To be or not to be
22:43Woe is me to have seen what i have seen to see what i see
22:54A very different place of hamlet
22:58Have you ever played hamlet i know you've been in a hamlet
23:01No i've never played hamlet no i played laertes to kenneth braner's wow
23:05Hamlet in whatever it was 1992
23:07Wasn't that that was the really long one where he did the whole text wasn't it yeah i think we cut one line
23:11So it was and he speaks very very fast ken so it was quite a swift production right but on the third preview at the barbican theater
23:18It was a matinee and i got this rage i woke up with this raging toothache and because it was a full production a full full length show
23:26Laertes has about two and a half hours off in the middle while hamlet's doing all the angsty stuff
23:31You know and and telling the main story so i went to the london hospital
23:35uh emergency sort of unit and they said oh yes yes we just need to yank that out now and uh
23:39uh i will give you an anesthetic i said well i can't i gotta go back on stage you know you know
23:45and um so they rubbed some cloves on it and i went back and i was sweating i had a temperature
23:50and uh came on to do the sort of last part of the play and ken was looking at me a bit strange because
23:54i was dripping and uh you know the sword fight was sort of like that you know just kill me just kill me
24:01um and uh i i you know that then they took my temperature was 102 or something so i was sent off
24:08and the and the uh understudy had to do the evening but my my old friend tom hollander came to see the
24:14show that afternoon and because i just was literally just mumbling my way through it he came around
24:18afterwards and said hugh i've never seen you be so good you were so still you were so controlled
24:26so congratulations though i'm thrilled you got it makes i know how much you mentioned but also it's a
24:29fabulous piece of work and it's so uniquely yours and you know one sequence which i think is particularly
24:34well done and once again it's quite hard to get this sequence right i think is the scene when hamlet
24:39sees the ghost of his father uh and that you know and it's quite easy to i think make mistakes with
24:45that and yet yours it really catches it brilliantly it's i won't give away where it is or when but
24:49something about the setting and something about the distances involved very very uh effective very
24:54powerful um and it must be quite interesting because there's obviously it's a supernatural
24:58element or is it you're not sure like do you believe in that kind of thing do you believe
25:02in ghosts and spirits do i believe in ghosts yeah um i don't know if anyone maybe my generation
25:07remembers the bbc once showed this fake documentary back in the day called ghost watch oh yeah
25:13you remember ghost watch is a chill gone through the crowd and everyone 40 and over uh i've been totally
25:19traumatized by ghost watch and so yes i believe in ghosts have you ever seen one uh i've seen ghost watch
25:25no but that's not that's all i need to see man have you ever had a a supernatural experience hugh
25:31bonneville yeah i did sleep in a a friend's house once and uh where there were no windows which
25:36isn't a good start to the evening anyway and i woke up and i woke up in the middle of the night and
25:40i just have this terrible feeling of dread that if i stepped out of bed i would just keep falling
25:45and so i went down for breakfast and he said how did he sleep and i said it was a bit weird to be honest he
25:50said so i didn't tell you that that is the haunted room but um you know um but um i haven't yet
25:55i'm really up for it i really want to have a chat with a ghost i'd really like to have you either
26:00seen or dated if he wants to talk to a ghost he should join hinge
26:07there you go ghosty thank you i am yeah uh congratulations on hamlet thank you uh and i do
26:14hope you all go and see it i think it's a great film and i think it's an amazing achievement um don't go away
26:19we're going to take a short break but up next we'll be joined by ellie kill dunn
26:23and jason derulo will be performing at the end of the show see you after the break
26:39welcome back to the show uh let's get my next guest up she's one of the standout stars of
26:44england's red roses who won the world cup of course let's have a look at her
26:48in fantastic action
26:49let it go for ellie kill dunn and she's not going to get caught but kelly on gray is coming across to
26:55try and make the tackle the swerve from ellie kill dunn is good by zoe harrison which is dangerous
27:01because now ellie kill dunn's been picked it up ellie kill dunn using her feet ellie killed
27:06dunn still going ellie killed dunn you beauty who's the person to take it for ellie kill dunn
27:13little bit of footwear ghosting around one then two and ellie kill dunn lives on the audience
27:21ladies and gentlemen the amazing ellie kill dunn
27:30thank you for coming
27:39ellie take a seat ellie i'm genuinely so excited to have you here i'm a big fan i'm sure everyone
27:46else are you a fan of ellie's yes i know you guys are as well uh congratulations on winning the
27:52world cup what a moment yeah it was uh something i i've said it plenty of times i think there's a
27:58difference between something that you can imagine something that you can dream and the difference
28:02is you can imagine being in that because you can see yourself in those shoes something you can dream
28:08is something that you think someone else is going to do um but this is everything that we've dreamed
28:15i've always said i want it to exceed our expectation and it's exactly what happened
28:20um plenty of memories that come from it but obviously winning the world cup is uh very very special
28:25i underplay it but it's very special but how did you get into rugby because it's not back then now
28:33there will be a whole generation of of girls of young women i would have thought inspired by you
28:38inspired by your team and thinking okay rugby is something for me you know something i want to do
28:41we can excel at this but when you were there weren't it really wasn't that well-known women's rugby was
28:45it it wasn't but i think this is the thing i think people often assume that barriers are something that
28:51holds you back but when you're six years old you don't understand barriers so that was nothing that
28:58was ever going to hold me back it was purely because i was playing out with my neighbours and
29:04they were going down to rugby training and i thought well there's not many games i know that i can play
29:07by myself you definitely can't play tig and you definitely can't play football because it's easy to
29:11score score a goal if there's no one in the net so um i went down to the the session with them and
29:19the one thing that i remember and i loved the most was the fact that turning up to the session
29:24all the boys that would turn around and go is that a boy or is that a girl with a very long hair i don't
29:29really know but at the end of the session they were saying one of two things it was either shaking
29:34man saying welcome to the team or i didn't tackle you because i'm a boy and you're a girl but it was
29:39because i scored all the tries yeah and so you were you were naturally sporty then i guess you were
29:44athletic and you were kind of and you obviously had a fire in your belly even then so you said you
29:49were six then yes started playing at six we've got some footage of you i don't know if it's when
29:53you're six or shortly afterwards but this is amazing have a look this is young ellie playing rugby
29:57and it's against all boys i guess you were the only girl in the team amazing look at this
30:10um let's let's put the photograph up of um elliot at that stage when she was that age
30:24oh my god my legs are just the same size um look the size of the ball compared to you this is a
30:34different question all together here but uh is it true you gave your coach a tattoo yes i did um now
30:41we should point out it was consensual he said yes this he wasn't he didn't creep in he wasn't asleep
30:46no no no i didn't drug him i didn't do any of that but um yeah i one of the things with me is i pick up
30:52hobbies um outside of rugby and i think it's very important to have different obsessions but i'm
30:58also one of those people that gets so obsessed with something and then it lasts two weeks i realize
31:03i'm not very good at it and then i drop it i've got a keyboard at home i've got three guitars um
31:09i've got 20 kilos of clay sitting in the corner of my room so if anyone wants to come over we'll have
31:14stuff to do can i just say when you're trying something out you normally buy a small amount of
31:19something not 20 kilos it was so stupid i don't know why you bought 20 kilos of clay i yeah i was
31:27what were you gonna make with it i thought you know what it'd be really great for everyone's birthday
31:32i can make them a coffee mug and then i made it and it wouldn't even hold a glass of water so soon
31:38i realized i wasn't gonna last very long but one of those obsessions was i was away with the sevens
31:42we're in new zealand and all the girls had tattoos and stuff and i thought i want a tattoo i want something
31:48that's a little bit different so we went to a tattoo shop and i got two lines on my wrist right
31:55and i spent 50 quid on two lines two lines so that's 25 quid a line yeah exactly that and it took
32:01it took 20 seconds anyway when it came to being in camp one of the girls said we'll go to the tattoo
32:06shop and i thought this is what i can do i'll do tattoos so i bought a um a tattoo kit
32:12it cost me 20 quid yeah 20 sterling pounds for those from london that's if to put that in other
32:20terms that's about 50 kilos of clay yeah yeah yeah um and i just remember that first time we were in
32:26one of the the rooms and i had this kit and then i was like oh shit um we need to make this hygienic so we
32:33ran down to the physio room got some of the latex gloves got some vaseline because you need it to be
32:39lubricated on the area and got some hand sanitizer to make sure it was so so this is a professional
32:46setup it was a professional so we had someone on the torch with their iphone like this is amazing
32:51yeah who who was your first victim the first victim was my roommate and we didn't quite get it right
32:56because we didn't lubricate the area quite well enough so i was trying to do this cross and i was
33:01like why is it bleeding so much anyway next person comes and she said can i have my cap number we did
33:08that and i am very good at numbers and that was that's to this day the best one i've ever done
33:12yeah next girl she was sat there and she went i've got an idea can i have a camera i thought a flipping
33:19camera are you kidding me i can't do a tattoo i've never done a tattoo before let alone draw anyway i did
33:24this like little rubbish camera on her fast forward so i said to john mitchell our new coach as a joke
33:30because we've got a bit of tongue-in-cheek and i tend to not take life very seriously anyway and i said
33:36to him hey i've got a proposition for you if i if i if we win the world cup and i'm part of it can i
33:43tattoo you and obviously this is like eight months before and he went yeah yeah sure i take that very
33:50seriously and he went straight into my notebook a reminder for the day of the final um day after
33:57the world cup uh that night everyone got leathered as you can imagine um the next day people were still
34:03leathered um and we were going to battersea to celebrate with um fans and people wanted to
34:09who wanted to be there with us so the drinks kind of carried on and when we got back to the hotel
34:15everyone went back to sleep because we're going out that night again everyone was napping
34:19and i thought this is my chance so i went hold it so you've had very little sleep for 48 hours
34:25and quite a lot of alcohol a lot of alcohol this is my chance to permanently mark someone's skin
34:29why not why not but not only i'm in that position but also my head coaches so he can't say no
34:35anyway so i went into the bar where he was and i said mitch it's your time and
34:40blessing he said oh you're gonna have to check with a boss which of course as everyone knows
34:44is the wife yeah went to his um went to his wife and said he's okay if i do this and he said yes
34:50so we went into a room got my latex gloves on um i said have you ever had a tattoo before and he said
34:56never i thought brilliant okay um can you just bring the camera over and um i tattooed on him 2025 but
35:03the really funny part about um about it which circles it is he said oh what's those two little
35:09lines on your on your wrist and of course i wasn't going to say oh it's just a random thing because i
35:14wanted it for the first time i said all right it means equality
35:19and he went i love it i love it so he said can i have equality and then 2025 and since then i've seen him
35:29um since then and he was trying to show him oh the tattoo's still there it's looking good and his
35:34friend was there with him and his friend said oh the tattoo and i was about to tell that story it
35:39means jack shit but you think it means equality but before the words came out he said my favorite part
35:45is equality that's a terrifying story here's a photograph here's uh the image of the cat
35:53oh well that's a a very long story we've got every single d out um have you ever played rugby with
36:09um they did play i was supposed to play rugby i skipped school
36:16you played a little bit of rugby back in the day didn't you well in my dreams i was a fantastic fullback
36:21um in fact i was an incredibly slow lumbering second row um what's next for you what's the the i think
36:29is it the six nations about the start is that right yeah so the the men's six stations is kicking off
36:33this weekend um and our six nations is just after i just think life's crazy right now i just couldn't
36:39believe i was talking to jason derulo let me ask you about sports personality of the year because you
36:45were one up in that what an achievement and you must have i mean you seemed genuinely surprised when
36:49they read your name out there was two things was i more nervous about the outcome or was i happy with
36:55it or was i more nervous that i was going to flash everybody with my stupid dress that i had and it
37:00looked lovely it looked lovely the dress was gorgeous but it had a split right up to my hip
37:05and i didn't have any knickers on that's what i was thinking is i don't know what i'm more nervous about
37:12i got up and that whole experience was something that you dream i said the year before i'm gonna do
37:19this but when i really come away from that and think about it i just can't believe it yeah lando
37:26norris i beat lando norris yeah and where where's the award do you have it at home it's with my uh
37:33mum and dad back in yorkshire um they have begun to get a bit of a shrine of i was speaking to my
37:42mum before this you should don't say that because it's quite embarrassing but you know i like the
37:46past couple years i've had quite a lot of awards and things like mementos and stuff like that and
37:51i just always say oh this is for the for the shrine um and the latest one yes there's there's the sports
37:58personality of the year there's the world player of the year but the latest one during the world cup
38:02they did something in london which was like a bed of roses and when we went back into camp a couple
38:08weeks ago they said oh you can have your roses and we all thought they were like this and they're like
38:12five foot tall they look massive well your mum's gonna be even more embarrassed because we we got a
38:16picture from your dad of the shrine at home i believe including the two giant roses there it is
38:22they are big roses okay it doesn't look like this when i come home so this is definitely for all the
38:28shows all those is oscar
38:36okay i could check you all night i love i love meeting you but uh we're gonna have to take a
38:39quick break now but please don't go away because as just previously mentioned by ellie jason derulo is
38:45here he'll be performing right here in the studio in just a few moments i'll see you after the break
38:51welcome back to the show uh i'm still here with all my fabulous guests um ellie let me ask you
39:05about um uh your brother because your brother plays rugby uh professionally as well yeah and that must be
39:11quite i would have thought not tricky necessarily but to have to be competing against someone else in the
39:16family who is in the england squad and who is runners-up sports person of the year that must be quite
39:20tricky for him i mean look me and my brother sam he's we've always been super close we've always
39:27been super competitive as well that competitiveness was always there whether it was playing cops and
39:33robbers in the garden running away from each other or fighting each other and you know we're kids and
39:40we do fight and i remember one time we used to have this thing um growing up that we'd fight all the
39:46the time we'd be like oh we're a bit bored should we just have a fight might have made me the real
39:51player i'm sad i don't know but one time i went to clock him i mean the one rule was you're not allowed
39:57to punch so i went to clock him and i thought oh god that's the rule so i pulled away and ended up
40:01clocking him with my nose with my elbows sorry blood everywhere like it was it was yeah it was horrible
40:10thank you you didn't get on well with your sister did you i remember reading something in your book a
40:13quite extraordinary exchange you had with her well you know yeah she was older than me and
40:18there's a sort of contractual obligation for brothers and sisters to wind each other up obviously
40:23and she'd done something you know like stick a tongue out of me or whatever so i ended up chasing
40:27around the back garden one time and then she was quicker than me and ran back inside and shut the back
40:32door and then you know did that or something and i can remember it so i was about eight or seven
40:38maybe and though in slow motion this happened in my in my memory there was a sledgehammer by the
40:44by the glass back door okay now we should just say in advance this doesn't end as badly as you might
40:52well yeah yeah and so i i did somehow you know pick up this heavy sledgehammer and launch it through
40:58the glass panel of the uh but you see it had 12 panes on it uh this this back back door uh the kitchen
41:05door and so actually i thought i was doing people a favor in retrospect because afterwards it was a
41:10single pain much easier much easier for mum to clean yeah yeah yeah uh and didn't you wasn't there
41:17and this sounds dark but didn't you dig a grave for you well there had to be further retribution
41:22so i just said to mum one day i'm going to dig a grave for claire in the garden and she said and
41:28mum said that's fine tea's at half past five and unfortunately the soil in blackheath south east
41:34london isn't that give you know it doesn't not not look like give clay yeah so i got about seven
41:39inches down and that was it i love my sister very much brother uh here's some exciting news i'm changing
41:46the subject somewhat now but uh wiz has just finished making a movie with none other than uh thomas
41:52map of the cruise the fourth tom cruise how's that experience how did you find the force of nature
41:58that is tom cruise he's a force of nature yeah he's really an incredible similar to like you know
42:05honestly like an athlete you know like an athlete you know speaking to you backstage speaking to here
42:09as well there is that kind of single-minded belief that drive that athleticism that is kind of inspiring
42:16to be around what's what's the film um it's called digger jcb did you give us any info or not i can't
42:25you can't okay have you seen how fast tom cruise runs i don't want to chase no no have uh have you
42:31made the i think the ultimate accolade for those who work with tom cruise i believe and i know a few
42:35who are lucky enough to be on this list for example simon peck who's a friend of mine uh you get a
42:39christmas cake from tom personally have you made that list or is this going to be a salt point for you
42:45i don't want to put evil eye on the fact that i get the christmas cake but i get the christmas
42:51you get it
42:54and i've been told i've not been lucky enough to try it but i've been told it is a very fine cake
43:02i don't want to break your heart but it's a banging cake yeah it's a really you know it's a sponge
43:07cake which i'm not a sponge cake guy it's coconut i'm not a coconut cake guy and yet it is it is really
43:14something special wow it's amazing yeah what kind of cake guy are you there i'm a carrot cake guy
43:19fuck off
43:22carrot cake in the house
43:25it's not even a cake
43:29okay so we thought we might try a bit of rugby uh seeing as we've got ellie and ellie's going to
43:33teach us how to catch the rugby ball when it is hurling towards you at some considerable speed
43:39are you up for this riz let's do it harriet i fear the worst
43:47we've got medics we've got medics
43:50two we will now see the prowess of your youthful rugby dream okay brought to life in all its elegant and
43:57poetic beauty so uh let's bring in the machinery we're gonna try and do this uh if you guys would
44:02like to head over there i would suggest you stand quite a long way away oh this is okay what's it
44:09sound guys i can crank this up can i okay i'm worried about rings let me tell you we don't have to do
44:16if you don't want to this is why we got hue here i mean it's on 40 now it goes up to 80 wait till we
44:21get to bonneville you're going to see some magic okay
44:37you're not doing it at 40. i'll leave at 40. oh for fuck's sake
44:42okay ready here we go three two one
44:48okay thank you for my face
44:51i'm really still another one do another
44:58okay okay one of them you could add it 45
45:01no come on come on two lines
45:08come on
45:18okay okay and now and now the moment so many of us have been waiting for
45:32as we see harriet finally put to rest those dyspraxia rumors
45:38oh man oh are you ready you're not gonna catch you like that yeah
45:47i suggest you look at the ball
45:48this is this is where are you going
45:52okay i'm stressed i'm really stressed about it
45:55okay go
45:57go for it
45:58oh watch your back what's your going okay do you want to count me down okay
46:04okay
46:17Oh
46:29You don't turn it up
46:39Who you didn't tell me it was that fast I've decided I'm not going pro
46:47All right, I'm afraid that's all we have time for will you join me in saying thank you to all my guests
47:01Performing sexy for me from the new album the last dance part one. It's the fabulous Jason Derulo
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