00:00You alright there, John? How are you?
00:03Yeah, I'm right. Yeah, I've just been thinking. How many kids you got now?
00:08Bloody hell, mate.
00:10Denise, how many kids have you got now?
00:13I reckon maybe about 12 or 13, you know, John.
00:17You know, Stella is pregnant now, so maybe it's going to be 13 or 14.
00:22Gee, you can't quite know how many kids you got. Blimey, that's a lot if you can't count that many.
00:28Mate, we've got a bloody lot, mate. It's a lot of them.
00:33What are you doing for a living now?
00:35Mate, I'm not really working, mate.
00:38So how can you afford however many kids you got, 13, perhaps 14?
00:44Bloody universal credit, mate.
00:47Universal credit?
00:49Yeah.
00:50Really? So you're not working, you're having more and more kids, and you're on universal...
00:54Yeah, because I've got a bad back, innit? I've got a bad back, innit, mate?
00:58I've got a bad back, but I have to get up at 6 o'clock in the morning and go and do scaffolding.
01:04Alright, John, yeah, mate, then you know what you need to do then, buddy?
01:08Speak to your wife and then have some more kids.
01:12We get like 2 or 3 grand every month now, mate.
01:17You get 2 or 3 grand a month?
01:19Yeah, mate, yeah, mate. We're bloody living it right now.
01:22I'm doing the scaffolding.
01:24Oh, you know how old I am.
01:26And I'm getting up early, getting home late.
01:28I don't earn that. That's not fair, is it?
01:31How's that fair?
01:32Yeah, I know, mate. It's just a system, innit, buddy?
01:35Just a system, mate.
01:37Yeah, sure.
01:39How come you can't get your back fixed then?
01:41I don't know, mate. It's just a system, you know, like the radiation towers and stuff like that.
01:46I reckon all of that's playing up with it.
01:48But yeah, like, erm...
01:51Yeah, yeah.
01:52More back can't be that bad if you've got more kids.
01:55What do you mean?
01:57Well, how do you keep producing kids if you've got a bad back?
02:01She goes on top, doesn't she?
02:04Does she?
02:05Alright, okay.
02:06Well, if lad thinks that, mate, I could do that.
02:08Yeah.
02:09Yeah, but I still don't think that's fair, that you're getting all that money...
02:12I don't know, mate. You don't blame what I mean, mate.
02:14Blame the system, you know what I'm saying, Johnny?
02:17Yeah, that's not how it should work, is it? You know that.
02:21Yeah, I know, but it's just how it is, you know, mate.
02:24It's just there, innit? So, like, we're just taking it, you get me?
02:27Yeah, well, that's not how society...
02:30Stop playing with your sister's hair on, bro!
02:33You what?
02:34No, no, no, sorry, mate. I'm just talking to my little boy, Umbro.
02:37Umbro?
02:39Yeah.
02:40Yeah.
02:41Okay, yeah, Umbro. That sort suits it, doesn't it? Yeah.
02:44Okay, yeah. So, er, when do you think you're going to get back to work, then?
02:48I don't know, mate. Just whenever my back's alright, you know?
02:52I guess whenever they stop bloody Universal Credit and Pip and all that, you know?
02:57Yeah, that's just... I don't think that's right. I'm sorry.
03:01I said, I've known you for a long time and I've never, ever seen you go to work.
03:06Yeah, because I've got a bad back, mate. I've had it for a few years now, haven't I?
03:10I know you have, yeah. And I've still got a bad back and I'm still working. How's that fair?
03:14Well, like, if you're a bloody good job centre, mate, they can help your bloody apply for it, can't you?
03:20Yeah, but I don't want to do that. I just, I want to go to work and earn a decent living.
03:26Okay, so go and do that then, buddy.
03:28Yeah, but I just don't think it's fair that you're living off everyone else. Don't you think that's unfair?
03:36I don't know, mate. It's alright for me. I don't really care.
03:40No, that's... Yeah, because the thing is, it's going to be there anyway.
03:43So, like, why don't I just take it? You know what I mean?
03:46It's either going to be me or it's going to be somebody cracking across the street. You get me?
03:49You get me?
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