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00:01:30In 2017, Commander David Traver appeared on the Tucker Carlson Show.
00:01:34This was, as I have posited and talked about since then, the first rung on the ladder of disclosure.
00:01:41How many rungs are there? No one knows.
00:01:43But after six years and counting, we are far past the initial revealing of the so-called extraterrestrial presence.
00:01:51As we pointed out in our Roswell film, David Grush, a whistleblower who appeared in Congress, stated on the record that we, our government, not only have crashed UFOs that have been retrieved, but biologics, the bodies, were also recovered.
00:02:08In other words, we have physical evidence of something which did not originate on planet Earth.
00:02:18This film, What is the Truth?, will explore the two paradigms that present themselves in ufology, the study of UFOs.
00:02:28The first is that we are being visited by extraterrestrials from some faraway planet like Epsilon Eridani.
00:02:34This is the prevailing paradigm and is promulgated in shows like Ancient Aliens.
00:02:40The other viewpoint is that these entities are intruders.
00:02:45They are interdimensional beings that have a very nefarious agenda.
00:02:51We will hear both sides of the phenomenon and leave it up to you to decide what is the truth.
00:02:57Nick Pope is a media commentator and former British civil servant.
00:03:05While he was employed at the British government's Ministry of Defense, Pope was responsible for investigating the UFO phenomena.
00:03:14Fravor gets on Tucker Carlson.
00:03:17He doesn't have a book.
00:03:18He doesn't have a DVD.
00:03:19He's not on the circuit.
00:03:20Nobody knows who this guy is.
00:03:22Essentially, he's a nobody.
00:03:23But he winds up on Tucker Carlson, and he's chosen to sort of spill the beans, as it were.
00:03:29So who's behind it, in your opinion?
00:03:32Well, at some level, obviously, the government, the military, and the intelligence community.
00:03:37And so we look at these people who were involved in this.
00:03:41So with regard, for example, to the Pentagon's ATIP program, we know, for example, that former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was instrumental in setting it up.
00:03:54We know that Luis Elizondo was very much the kind of day-to-day run the program, manage a lot of the information with that.
00:04:05We have other people who've been involved in this at an official level who have some exposure to this.
00:04:12People like Christopher Mellon.
00:04:13Deep insiders with this.
00:04:16And a lot of these people are now pursuing that agenda that they pursued within government, outside of government, but through this organization, the To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science.
00:04:29It's the program, the effort fronted by Tom DeLonge, which sounds unlikely until you say, well, actually, it isn't, because these sorts of bizarre things happen in the shadowy world of intelligence all the time.
00:04:46So, look, this is a network of people.
00:04:49And like any network, some people are retired, but those people have contacts who are still very much in the game.
00:04:57So, if those sorts of people want to find someone like David Fravor and get him on national television, absolutely.
00:05:05So, it's not so much how did this guy with no book get on TV.
00:05:10It's that he is part of the story, and therefore the people who are managing this, and I use that word deliberately, know where to find him.
00:05:19And when you need a pilot or a radar operator or former intelligence officer, it's like the toolbox approach.
00:05:28There is a box, and you can pull out whatever kind of tool you need for the job.
00:05:35And the job at the moment, I think it's clear.
00:05:38It's the process of transitioning this subject out of the fringe and into the mainstream, making it respectable, getting beyond.
00:05:46Look, we're way beyond now.
00:05:48I think your question spoke to that.
00:05:50We're way beyond the question, is this real or not?
00:05:52Now, we've kind of done that.
00:05:54Absolutely.
00:05:54It's a gift.
00:05:55So, now what?
00:05:56Exactly.
00:05:57What are the next steps here?
00:05:59So, the question now becomes, who's behind the wheel?
00:06:04I stole that from Lou, Lou Elizondo.
00:06:07But, obviously, what are the intentions here?
00:06:12And, critically, what should our response be to this still unfolding situation?
00:06:22What happens if a mile-wide craft shows up above Washington or something like that?
00:06:37That changes the deal.
00:06:38That changes the deal for the world.
00:06:41Nobody's prepared for that.
00:06:43I think that, you know, most people, they hear about the discussions in the news and about UFOs and UFO disclosures.
00:06:51But, turning on your TV and listening to the President tell you that we've made contact and showing a video of a mile-wide UFO over the White House changes the deal.
00:07:05And, for most people, it's going to be a huge paradigm shift that is going to lead them down a path that they may not be expected to go down.
00:07:13So, without setting a date, do you think we're close to full-blown disclosures?
00:07:26Well, I mean, I often get asked that question, you know, and my view is that disclosure could happen.
00:07:36You know, I mean, with ATIP and the fact that mainstream media is covering this, you know, when they broke it with the New York Times, and everybody was covering it.
00:07:46And it has been legitimized.
00:07:48You know, whether people believe in everything, you know, that's a different thing.
00:07:52But it has been quite openly legitimized and talked about on mainstream media, which is a good thing.
00:08:01But, in terms of the UFO research community, the only thing I have an issue with is not the possibility that disclosure could come.
00:08:11And I think there's been, at times, a bad way of handing it where certain people in the disclosure movement have said,
00:08:19Well, I know it's coming next year, or I know a general who told me it's coming this month or that month.
00:08:25And they're not lying, you know, but it's badly handed because I think sometimes it comes across like the boy who cried wolf,
00:08:32where he keeps crying, and then eventually nobody listens because he's been crying for too long, you know.
00:08:38And I think sometimes people, well, not I think I know, because I've spoken to people in audiences have said,
00:08:46basically, well, you said this last year that it was going to become, you know, and now you're saying it's this year or it's next year.
00:08:53And I do know some people at conferences who get frustrated with that it's coming next year, it's coming next year.
00:08:59Doesn't mean it's not coming, but I think we need to avoid time frames and just look at the data and seeing that this openness could be provoking disclosure.
00:09:29They're talking about off-world vehicles that they have.
00:09:36United States government has in its possession of vehicles.
00:09:41I mean, that's huge.
00:09:42So now we're not talking wreckage, you know, some hubcaps from a UFO.
00:09:46We're talking, we've got an entire vehicle.
00:09:48What are your thoughts?
00:09:49Well, this has been like a time release type of deal.
00:09:51It's very deliberate.
00:09:53Well, it's been very slow since the 50s.
00:09:56I mean, you know, we're getting us all used to Star Trek and watching all these movies, aliens and things that we're slowly becoming used to the idea that possibility of aliens out there.
00:10:05But the progress we're seeing now, since a certain person has been elected, that this stuff is like steamrolling.
00:10:12It's like a flood of information is coming out.
00:10:14And once incriminating evidence comes out like this video, there's no going back.
00:10:19And it appears that someone's opened the door.
00:10:22I still don't think we're going to get disclosure from government.
00:10:40We're going to get disclosure accidentally.
00:10:42Somebody's going to release something like we found, of course, the video of the tic-tac of the strange looking objects that the U.S. Navy could not catch.
00:10:53This is our best.
00:10:54This is the best we have in the military.
00:10:56And they could not catch these objects at all.
00:11:00Eventually, more military people are going to come forward and say, these are real.
00:11:05I don't think government's going to make out, I don't think we're going to have a presidential announcement, but we're going to find out from people within that we're being visited by ETs.
00:11:15So, if this is a deception, if it's a supernatural phenomenon that we're seeing, then it fits the biblical narrative perfectly.
00:11:41If they really are from some other planet, then it doesn't, per se, you know, I'm just saying.
00:11:47But if it's supernatural, then it's, what are your thoughts?
00:11:51It depends.
00:11:53Do we have the same source or no?
00:11:57If there are different sources, if it's the same source, it's the same source that's sending these entities.
00:12:09Assuming different shapes, which is what I believe.
00:12:15The other hypothesis is that there's really something different.
00:12:21Pan-spermium is not necessarily the seed of life through extraterrestrials.
00:12:27It can be the seeding by meteorites and comets, etc.
00:12:36So, they have found the ingredients of life, the organic materials in those comets.
00:12:42So, it's, it's, it's, could be, it could be, although our, our planet is in reality and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's absolutely amazing and difficult to explain.
00:12:58Yeah, I, I concur.
00:13:01Um, the deception part, it's difficult to me to, um, to, to debate that because, uh, we would have to consider, for example, Fatima, I can relate to that, deception.
00:13:18And, and, and you, and you and I worked on, on our films on Fatima, right.
00:13:22Um, the Greys, I can eventually relate to that.
00:13:29The, uh, Tall Whites, the Nordics, it's a little bit different.
00:13:33A little different.
00:13:34Okay.
00:13:34Um, eventually, Croft Circles could be a deception.
00:13:40But, cat mutilation, it's not a deception.
00:13:43No.
00:13:43It's just there.
00:13:44It is what it is.
00:13:45It is what it is.
00:13:45Um, Skinwalker Ranch, it is what it is.
00:13:49Okay.
00:13:50Uh, Cat and Mouse, Skinwalker Ranch, the entity does not want us there.
00:13:56And the Indians know you for centuries that, that was something that they would not go there.
00:14:01Hmm.
00:14:02Um, so it's not a deception.
00:14:04You just don't have to mess with it.
00:14:06Hmm.
00:14:07So, there could be different realities, different interpretations.
00:14:13It's, it's difficult to say.
00:14:15I, I, I, I don't know.
00:14:31An interesting time to be alive.
00:14:32I remember when I was growing up, I always had an interest in aliens, UFOs, and everything.
00:14:38But at that time, by and large, the government was saying that none of this was real, and
00:14:42it was all fantasy.
00:14:43And then on top of that, the church that I grew up in was saying the same thing.
00:14:45You know, oh, that's just demonic projection kind of stuff.
00:14:48It's not real.
00:14:49But I've always kind of felt like there's going to come a day where people are going to know
00:14:53it's real.
00:14:53And we're living in that day now, and it's, it's insane to me how fast that happened.
00:14:58I mean, it was literally end of 2017.
00:15:01Actually, Derek Gilbert and I wrote a book called The Day the Earth Stands Still.
00:15:04And through timing some correlations between UFO events and major events in Israel's history,
00:15:10we actually pinpointed pretty close within a couple of months that date.
00:15:13So people can go back and check this.
00:15:15The book was published in November, and we said, end of 2017, beginning of 2018, if this
00:15:20pattern is correct, we're going to see something big with Israel, we're going to see something
00:15:23big with UFOs, or something big with the idea of cosmic plurality, that there might be life
00:15:27out there in the universe.
00:15:29Well, the book was published in November, then December rolls around, and not only do we
00:15:34get the very beginning of official disclosure, but we also get this big announcement from
00:15:37President Trump saying that he's going to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
00:15:41I mean, that's a historic event.
00:15:43I think the dominant view is going to be that these are extraterrestrials, they're more advanced
00:15:47than us, so we should listen to what they say.
00:15:50Big mistake, because it is a physical phenomenon with a spiritual origin, with a spiritual source,
00:15:56which I think, spiritual, extra-dimensional, it's the same thing.
00:15:59It's super physical.
00:16:00With how fast this has been progressing, and the weird thing, too, is how little people
00:16:05seem to care.
00:16:06We live in a time where literally the government told us these UFOs are real, we don't know
00:16:10what they are, we don't have any great testing that we can give you, no results.
00:16:15That happened overnight, and everybody just kind of accepted it and moved on.
00:16:19So I would suspect in the next couple of years even, we'll probably be living in a totally
00:16:23different world, where a lot of people will ignore it and kind of go on with their lives.
00:16:27People like us, our minds are going to be blown, but our voices are going to be silenced
00:16:30due to a lot of the censorship and stuff that's happening now.
00:16:33So I think the stage is being set for that type of event, and it wouldn't surprise me
00:16:37if it happened in the next couple of years.
00:16:38The question then is, who are they in contact with?
00:16:56Are they truly extraterrestrial?
00:16:57I don't believe so.
00:16:59There are some very serious technological, scientific, engineering challenges that need
00:17:04to be addressed across the vast distances of space, radiation, fuel, energy consumption,
00:17:10et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:17:12However, has mankind been visited by inhuman entities?
00:17:17Yes, for thousands of years.
00:17:21They've been with us since the beginning.
00:17:23When you begin to understand that these things appear to defy the laws of physics because they're
00:17:28moving between dimensions.
00:17:30What are your closing thoughts in regard to disclosure?
00:17:34Where we are, the fact that the powers that be are tripling out the information, but it's
00:17:40a matter's agenda.
00:17:41What are your closing thoughts?
00:17:43Well, I think it's, floodgates are open, and all bets are off right now.
00:17:49I think that we may find out not only about UFOs, but other civilizations.
00:17:54We may find out about what other creature-like formations are out there that are intelligent.
00:18:02You know, you hear about the reptilians.
00:18:04I mean, all this may come out.
00:18:05So it's not only going to be just, you know, once the foot is in the water, it's all of it.
00:18:10That's it.
00:18:10And that's what I think the government's been afraid of for all these years.
00:18:13Once the information comes out, it's verifiable, like we saw with this Navy video.
00:18:18It's like, I mean, it's a no-brainer.
00:18:21That's, that's, that's a real deal.
00:18:22Somebody, that is not our, and the Chinese, the Chinese didn't do it, the Russians didn't
00:18:27do it, no.
00:18:27Because if they did, they would have attacked you.
00:18:29I think there's multiple things happening.
00:18:44First off, there's likely military craft that we don't know about.
00:18:50High-level, top-secret stuff that our tax dollars are likely paying for.
00:18:55I really do think they are prepping the masses for a revealing of some kind.
00:18:59I don't know if it's going to be real so-called aliens or some kind of fake thing with Project
00:19:06Bluebeam has been talked about, but they're definitely conditioning the masses for some
00:19:10kind of revealing of technology, maybe first, and then definitely entities to come.
00:19:16Because right now we have a generation that is not really into things like Freemasonry openly,
00:19:23although there are modern Freemasons.
00:19:24Cultural leaders like Tom DeLonge, who was the lead singer, one of the singers for a band
00:19:30called Blink-182, a band I grew up listening to.
00:19:33He not only is putting out the Masonic symbolism out there, but he also has organizations called
00:19:40Academy for the Stars, really prepping the masses, getting all the young people that were
00:19:46into his music to start accepting this idea that there might be aliens out there and that
00:19:51they're here to help us.
00:19:52So what's your take on Fravor?
00:19:56I don't know.
00:19:57It seems like some of these folks who are being placed out there to reveal some of these things,
00:20:03it feels like a controlled dissemination of information.
00:20:06But other than that, I'm not sure.
00:20:08I don't know what to think of it.
00:20:09What do you think the future holds?
00:20:13Chaos.
00:20:14I think a lot of chaos.
00:20:15We're going to see a lot of changes, obviously, culturally.
00:20:19People being prepared for, again, perhaps entities that will reveal themselves as saviors, maybe
00:20:26enhanced humans, maybe as some kind of resurrection of somebody who might have died who is influential.
00:20:34The technology is really the key piece here.
00:20:36I think the technology aspect of it, you don't need gray aliens to walk out onto the stage
00:20:40as long as you have the technological miracles, quote unquote, to make it look like there's
00:20:47something really supernatural going on.
00:20:49But the technology is, I think, creating that deception.
00:20:52And I think people are being prepped with our cell phones, with all of the fake news stuff
00:20:56in the media.
00:20:57We're being prepped for some kind of revealing.
00:21:01And up until that point, I think we're going to see more and more chaos, more and more division,
00:21:05more and more just violence, unfortunately.
00:21:09And it's going to come from all angles, political, economic.
00:21:13I do think there's an economic crash, just like 2008 imminent.
00:21:17Perhaps by the time this is being viewed, it has already happened, another crash.
00:21:21But yeah, I think a lot of changes are at hand.
00:21:24And I think technology is going to spark a lot of the salvation type of thinking in the
00:21:31masses.
00:21:32And with that comes some kind of human being, or maybe perhaps an enhanced being, or maybe
00:21:37they'll reveal themselves as aliens, extraterrestrials, whatever it is, some kind of supernatural
00:21:42or beyond human to get the people to rally around this world and basically the Antichrist.
00:21:55Do you think these crafts are nuts and bolts?
00:21:57I think some are.
00:21:59Some are probably nuts and bolts.
00:22:01There are tons of reports of UFOs that seem to have more of a hard physical presence to
00:22:10them.
00:22:11But others are definitely not.
00:22:14And so I think those are the ones that we should probably be more concerned about.
00:22:19The military craft, sure, those are, you know, they're troubling.
00:22:22The fact that they're not telling us, the fact that they're not revealing those things.
00:22:25Why are they hiding it?
00:22:27You know, maybe it's just a military reason to, you know, conceal things against the enemy
00:22:32of other countries or whatnot.
00:22:33But now that we're entering this phase of globalism, who is going to be the enemy?
00:22:39Who is going to be the helpers?
00:22:41And I think those are all going to be part of the narrative that unfolds as we march into
00:22:46the 2020s here.
00:22:48We might have a lot of things.
00:22:50I always think back to the day of the Apollo 14 astronaut, the late Edgar Mitchell, who
00:22:55told me, George, we're being visited by extraterrestrials.
00:23:01And I said, Edgar, have you seen them?
00:23:03When you were on the moon, did you see anything?
00:23:05And he said, no, honestly, I did not.
00:23:07But I've been told by people in government, we're being visited.
00:23:11We have been visited.
00:23:12And it's ongoing.
00:23:14And one day we'll find out about it.
00:23:15The one thing we need to remember when looking at the government report that is due out from
00:23:21the Pentagon on the UAP phenomenon, UFO if you're old like me, is that the military intelligence
00:23:28complex has always taken a lead role in shaping the narrative.
00:23:31This has been true ever since 1947.
00:23:33And I'm talking about the Roswell incident.
00:23:35Even before that, the Kenneth Arnold incident, a couple of weeks before Roswell, the military
00:23:41or the intelligence community or both have been involved in guiding the press coverage
00:23:46of these reports.
00:23:49The modern UFO phenomenon has thus had the fingerprints of the military and the intelligence
00:23:57communities all over it.
00:23:58The most recent revelation, this so-called tic-tac UFO video that was shot by various F-18
00:24:07pilots from the USS Nimitz back in 2004 during a training exercise off the coast of California,
00:24:11video of a craft that they described as shaped like a tic-tac with their forward-looking
00:24:17infrared radar moving much faster than anything in our arsenal, much faster than the SR-71 Blackbird,
00:24:24half again faster according to the radar operators on the USS Princeton.
00:24:28I have no doubt that Commander Fravor, who's the one who's been interviewed most often about
00:24:33this, his colleagues from the Nimitz, their colleagues from the USS Princeton, there was
00:24:37also a nuclear submarine in the area, if I remember the story correctly, back in 2004.
00:24:42Multiple trained witnesses saw this, so I am convinced that they saw something, but the
00:24:47logical leap here is that because they don't know what they saw, it must be from outer space.
00:24:52That doesn't automatically follow.
00:24:55It is telling that when this story broke into the mainstream in 2017, thanks to the New York
00:25:00Times, and we should remember that the piece, the first article about this, written by Leslie
00:25:06Keene, who was a long-time believer in the UFO phenomenon, the video that accompanied that
00:25:12article, shot by the F-18 cameras from Lieutenant Fravor's plane, or Commander Fravor's plane that
00:25:18is, was available on YouTube for anyone who cared to look since about 2007.
00:25:24I found articles about that video available on the net, so real researchers into the UFO
00:25:31phenomenon knew about this incident long before the New York Times publicized it.
00:25:35So then the second question is, why are they promoting this particular incident now?
00:25:40What changed in 2017 that the Pentagon, or somebody inside the government, decided to
00:25:46use the Pentagon and the Defense Intelligence Agency in this AATIP program, headed up by Luis
00:25:50Elizondo, to put the information out into the public?
00:25:54Why is it now suddenly okay for mainstream cable networks like Fox and CNN and MSNBC to
00:26:00suddenly talk about this?
00:26:01For mainstream newspapers like The Post and The Times and USA Today to write articles about
00:26:07this, where before they would laugh at anyone, including you and me, for even discussing
00:26:12the subject?
00:26:12Why now?
00:26:13Because the Pentagon suddenly says it's okay.
00:26:16Because the military intelligence complex is guiding the narrative.
00:26:20I think people will say, we knew it, we can handle the truth, that old Jack Nicholson line
00:26:25from A Few Good Men.
00:26:27I don't think they'll be shocked at all.
00:26:29I think most people, when polled today, will say, we believe that we're being visited,
00:26:35we believe in extraterrestrials, and it's not going to bother us.
00:26:39Is disclosure going to happen?
00:26:52Ask Steve Bassett.
00:26:53It is going to happen for sure.
00:26:55You know, most people do believe in ETs and life out there.
00:26:59Here's the issue.
00:27:00We don't get like the Roswells.
00:27:02We don't get like the cases with the Phoenix Lights anymore, the glitzy ones.
00:27:06But don't fool yourself.
00:27:08Peter Davenport from the National UFO Reporting Agency, he's the director.
00:27:12He gets hundreds of cases every week.
00:27:15So disclosure, is it going to happen?
00:27:18I think so.
00:27:19Yeah.
00:27:19And one thing I wanted to point out, if you look at the late night talk hosts, when they're
00:27:23talking to all the presidents, past and present, and they always bring up the question, you
00:27:28are you going to tell us anything?
00:27:29If you look at their faces, they know something.
00:27:34There's something brewing.
00:27:35And I don't know if it's going to be in my lifetime, but it's going to happen.
00:27:39The question is, what would happen if there's like a nuclear event?
00:28:00And recently we've heard all the saber rattling from Russia and different countries about some
00:28:05sort of a nuclear event.
00:28:06Do you think that would trigger the full-blown disclosure of the so-called extraterrestrial
00:28:10presence?
00:28:11I think even the end of the war in Ukraine would trigger this disclosure.
00:28:17I think we're on the brink of a new era.
00:28:21And I think this would be a great possibility to start with a new conscience.
00:28:29I mean, after they say, yeah, it's true that there are extraterrestrials there, the next
00:28:36step is to communicate with them.
00:28:42What happens when they answer to that communication?
00:28:45That's the point for me.
00:28:47That's the most important point.
00:28:49When they answer to this communication, then we will start this possibility to change the
00:28:56whole society, to change our values, to accept that we have obligations, we have duties, we
00:29:04have some rights too.
00:29:05But we will have to integrate to this cosmic society.
00:29:11It sounds crazy.
00:29:12It sounds fantastic.
00:29:15But it's true.
00:29:15And I think it's just about happening.
00:29:18I mean, people have to know how many sightings there are in the world right now.
00:29:22It is amazing.
00:29:23I receive dozens, hundreds of videos every month.
00:29:26And I present them in the Mexican television.
00:29:30And most of them, I wouldn't say the least of them, but most of them are absolutely real.
00:29:35What it means that there is a cylinder, a huge cylinder flying right now, orbiting the
00:29:41Earth in front of the International Space Station.
00:29:44Please take a look.
00:29:46What it means?
00:29:47It means contact.
00:29:48It means that they want to talk to us.
00:29:50Sounds fantastic.
00:29:52Sounds like a movie.
00:29:53It is.
00:29:54It is real.
00:29:55Then we have to start thinking in a different way.
00:30:00Just a few years ago, nobody believed in UFOs.
00:30:03So very few people, we believe in UFOs.
00:30:06Now it has been discussed in the Congress.
00:30:08Is that fantastic?
00:30:10Is this a tale?
00:30:12No, it really happened.
00:30:14And then we have to change the way we think about the whole experience, the whole phenomenon.
00:30:20Let me ask you one last question.
00:30:21Do you think these visitors are good or evil or bad or both, a combination?
00:30:28What's your take there?
00:30:29Do you think they have our best interests at heart?
00:30:31No, I don't think they are good or bad.
00:30:36Okay.
00:30:37I think they have their own interests.
00:30:39But I don't think they can base their development, the structure.
00:30:45Any society that is destructive will destroy itself.
00:30:50I mean, we have to just look back, look at Germany, look Japan, look all those who base their dominance, their strength by destroying others.
00:31:04Then I think it's a law in the universe.
00:31:07It's like violence.
00:31:08I mean, if you create violence, you produce more violence, and the answer is violence.
00:31:14That is why I don't think, probably they are evil, but they are not destructive.
00:31:19They won't come here to slaver us, to destroy us, to take advantage of us.
00:31:24I mean, they have the whole universe for them.
00:31:26There is no reason for them to come to Earth just to do something to us.
00:31:31I think the reason they are here is because of curiosity, scientific curiosity,
00:31:37and probably because they want us to integrate to this cosmic society.
00:31:44We've covered a lot of ground in our UFO series.
00:31:47What is the truth is the last in our film series.
00:31:50However, there will be a bonus DVD, which will bring the total up to 10 films in the series.
00:31:58Gil Zimmerman and I decided to show some of our highlights from some of the films,
00:32:04and that's what I'm going to show you right now.
00:32:06We're very proud of the work that we've done.
00:32:08We think it's the tip of the spear, as it were.
00:32:12Folks, the phenomenon is not going away.
00:32:15And at the end of these clips that we're about to show you,
00:32:17I will weigh in one last time and tell you what I think is really going on.
00:32:24I absolutely think that there's going to be disclosure in one form or another.
00:32:31I'm not certain about what that will be.
00:32:36Number one is I think we're right on the verge.
00:32:38When I say on the verge, it could happen this year or next year,
00:32:41where the scientific community is going to make an announcement
00:32:44that will reverberate throughout the whole world,
00:32:48where they will essentially say that we now have genetic evidence
00:32:53that planet Earth was seeded by some kind of extraterrestrial race X amount of years ago.
00:33:00I'm absolutely convinced of that.
00:33:01So we are here in a museum which is dedicated to crop circles.
00:33:05And we just came from the area of Silbury Hill, the Longbarrows.
00:33:11And what I find incredibly interesting here is we've got crop circles.
00:33:16Crop circles is not a new phenomenon.
00:33:18And yet what we see happening here is something that's manifesting in modernity,
00:33:24which links back to the ancient past.
00:33:27And frankly, I think there's a definite connection between what Silbury Hill, let's say,
00:33:32and modern-day crop circles.
00:33:33Your thoughts?
00:33:34Yeah, well, this area around here,
00:33:36there's been crop circles reported for potentially hundreds of years.
00:33:39Sure.
00:33:40We know farmers back in the 1940s
00:33:42who were talking about strange formations in their fields.
00:33:46And they always seem to be connected either with earthworks, mounds, or megalithic sites,
00:33:51specifically in this Wessex area, pretty much between Stonehenge and Avebury.
00:33:55This whole area is like the hub of it.
00:33:58And if you look into it, you'll see that it's certainly a genuine phenomenon.
00:34:02There's a prehistory that goes back to the Murray Devil of the 1600s.
00:34:06Which I used in one of my books.
00:34:08And so we know that there's a genuine thing.
00:34:11And I've looked through all the historical records.
00:34:13There's been people who've written about it.
00:34:15So some are man-made now.
00:34:17We do know that.
00:34:18Sure.
00:34:18A lot of hoaxes.
00:34:19But many of them, I believe, are still genuine.
00:34:22And it's a phenomenon that's being kind of ridiculed but really needs to be addressed
00:34:26and have a proper look at it from a scientific perspective.
00:34:30What amazes me about these is when you're down in the field,
00:34:32and this is what's incredible about the Great Serpent Mound in the Americas,
00:34:35but even here, the only way you can really appreciate this is from the air.
00:34:40So it gets into the whole idea of ufology, of disc-shaped objects in the sky,
00:34:46of lights in the sky, all sorts of theories.
00:34:49What are your thoughts regarding how this connects with the modern-day UFO phenomenon?
00:34:53Yeah, I mean, a lot of balls of light are witnessed forming them, moving around them.
00:34:58This whole video could be done about this, collecting the different film footage.
00:35:02And all these sites are UFO hotspots as well.
00:35:06And so there's certainly reality to that, that there's something else involved.
00:35:11And, I mean, I'm going to take a step forward here,
00:35:13and this might be out of your comfort zone a little bit,
00:35:15but, you know, again, from the biblical prophetic narrative,
00:35:18it talks about the prince of the power of the air.
00:35:20And I find it just incredibly interesting that these sites,
00:35:24which are charged sites, we know that,
00:35:26they were charged in the past, and some of them, I think, are still active.
00:35:29And the only way you can see this is from the air.
00:35:33And whoever is doing it does so with 100% impunity.
00:35:38No one's running around, you know, the constable isn't there going,
00:35:41you're under arrest.
00:35:42That's not happening.
00:35:43They move with 100% impunity.
00:35:46What are your thoughts?
00:35:47Yeah, no, I know what you mean.
00:35:48They just kind of turn up everywhere.
00:35:50They just do it where they want.
00:35:52I think as far as the original crop circle makers are thinking,
00:35:57is that, you know, as far as they're concerned,
00:35:59the fields are their canvas.
00:36:01Yeah.
00:36:01They're going to create their messages.
00:36:03And that's what they're doing.
00:36:04Their art within the fields.
00:36:06Let's move into the museum,
00:36:07and we just want to thank the curator for allowing us to film here.
00:36:10I can go through this because it's such a startling story.
00:36:1440 to 50 foot wide something.
00:36:16I don't want to use the word craft.
00:36:18Right.
00:36:18Glowing orb.
00:36:20Right.
00:36:20Over the front gate.
00:36:21Did anyone fire a weapon at it?
00:36:23I'm not sure in my case.
00:36:26However, I have reports from other cases where something similar happened
00:36:32and weapons were fired at it without any impact.
00:36:37Yes.
00:36:40I'm assuming everyone on the base was debriefed.
00:36:43I'm jumping way ahead of the story here.
00:36:46But I want to touch that, and then we'll come back to it.
00:36:48Was everyone debriefed separately?
00:36:50Well, let me tell you what happened in my instance.
00:36:54We were relieved.
00:36:56Of course, we had to call out maintenance crews to bring the missiles back up on alert,
00:37:01and they did.
00:37:03And by the way, one of my primary witnesses
00:37:05has testified to the fact that he was one of the men that came out
00:37:12and brought the missiles back up on alert, and all 10 missiles were down.
00:37:17So he has verified what I just told you in that respect.
00:37:21We were relieved the next morning.
00:37:23We were flown back by helicopter to the base, like I said, about 100 miles away.
00:37:27We were ordered to report to our squadron commander's office directly.
00:37:33We did.
00:37:35I walked in there.
00:37:36He was white as a sheet.
00:37:37Now, this was an old World War II B-17 pilot.
00:37:40Wow.
00:37:41He'd been around.
00:37:43He was white as a sheet.
00:37:44I knew him pretty well.
00:37:45We had met socially, but I asked him directly.
00:37:51I said, was this some kind of an Air Force exercise?
00:37:54And he assured me it was not.
00:37:56It was definitely not an Air Force exercise.
00:37:59I started to go through our story of events and what happened.
00:38:09And he and there was another fellow in the room, a man from AFOSI,
00:38:14Air Force Office Special Investigation,
00:38:17who didn't seem all that interested in listening to what we had to tell them
00:38:23about the incident, and the reason is because they had heard
00:38:29or they knew about the incident that happened a week earlier.
00:38:33We didn't.
00:38:34We weren't privy to that.
00:38:39Not directly.
00:38:42At any rate, he just shoved a paper in our face and said,
00:38:46Sign here.
00:38:47What are we signing?
00:38:48This is a non-disclosure statement.
00:38:50You are never to talk about this to anyone, ever, ever.
00:38:55You emphasize that.
00:38:57There were, I remember reading, there were penalties involved,
00:39:03jail time, fines, et cetera.
00:39:07So we signed.
00:39:10And from that moment on, we were not able to go back
00:39:14and talk to any of the guards or anybody about this.
00:39:18In fact, some of the guards called me a day or two later at home
00:39:25and begged me to come out and talk to them.
00:39:30You couldn't do it.
00:39:30And I couldn't do it.
00:39:31I had to turn them down.
00:39:32And it just really pained me to do that
00:39:36because they had to stand there in front of this thing,
00:39:41you know, scared to death, not knowing what it was,
00:39:43couldn't explain it.
00:39:45And I just couldn't go talk to them.
00:39:49I couldn't talk to them.
00:39:50I wish I had.
00:39:51So you're all bottled up inside.
00:39:53You can't tell another human being what's just happened.
00:39:56Exactly.
00:39:57And that's the way it was until about 1994.
00:40:01Let me ask you something.
00:40:04Do you think the phenomena is benevolent or malevolent?
00:40:10Or you're still, you know, weighing things in the balance?
00:40:15I can tell you this.
00:40:16I take a gun with me every one of my investigations.
00:40:20I would too.
00:40:21Every time.
00:40:21I'll have a .40 cal or .45 on my hip.
00:40:25If I'm out there interviewing a witness,
00:40:28I usually have one.
00:40:29I have a concealed carry.
00:40:31And I'm also known as being a former deputy.
00:40:33So I have to protect myself anyway.
00:40:37I've seen some things where humans were mutilated.
00:40:43There's a case in Canada that didn't go very far
00:40:46because it only went internally within investigators.
00:40:49One in Pennsylvania, the same thing.
00:40:51Yeah.
00:40:52But you would never, because when a human dies, it's a homicide.
00:40:57Yeah.
00:40:57And then if, and they may lock it up.
00:41:00The judge may lock the case so you can't see the files
00:41:05because it's an ongoing case.
00:41:07And as it should be.
00:41:10Because you have, yeah, it's one thing
00:41:13if you're talking to a rancher that loses an animal.
00:41:14Now it's a big deal though,
00:41:16because every animal that a rancher loses,
00:41:19they lose thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars
00:41:22because it's called the multiplier effect.
00:41:24That animal cannot calve anymore.
00:41:26That means their calves can't calve.
00:41:27That means those calves, calves, calves, can't pack,
00:41:29calf, calf, calf, calf, calf, calf, calf.
00:41:30Calculpa, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:31They lose it so it gets thousands and thousands
00:41:34and thousands of dollars down the road.
00:41:35when you lose a human or okay horse first and then you many horses are more
00:41:42like pets you know dogs or pets but a human you know use of relative that's a
00:41:47different story now it's a homicide and so you have to treat that differently
00:41:54to make a case like I said there was casing in Canada there and then you
00:41:58said I think you said Pennsylvania yeah so I was able to talk to the
00:42:05investigator in Canada a little different out there oh you know it was
00:42:08this one of the Mounties was driving side of the road there was abandoned car or
00:42:12just parked off the side of the road and there was a lady slumped over in the
00:42:16steering wheel fully closed you know it was oh shit you okay lady you okay and no
00:42:22response right when oh man they call the corner whatever their version of the
00:42:27corner is in Canada they figured when you she had a heart attack or whatever or
00:42:31door of overdose so you never know right they get in the corner opens up the
00:42:37clothes and it's this the same thing that she was you know it was a relation when
00:42:43the clothes were put back on place back in the car unbelievable and after I heard
00:42:47that anyway all right you know I don't like these guys let me ask you the question
00:42:55because there's a lot of a lot of people around the phenomena and people have
00:43:01different paradigms people have different worldviews different belief systems so my
00:43:06question to you is is this a good thing or a bad thing what do you mean well are
00:43:14the catamutilations are they a good thing or a bad thing well to me they're a bad thing okay and I
00:43:21would agree with you let me ask you this do you think it's deliberate that whoever
00:43:26is doing this whoever these entities are they could drop the cow pretty much
00:43:31anywhere but they drop it back in your pasture as if to say you know we can do
00:43:37whatever we want to do and you can't stop us when you hear me say that what does
00:43:43that make you think how does it make you feel yeah I think you're right they can do
00:43:48what they want and there's seems like there's no stopping it is there a nefarious
00:43:55element to this in your opinion or do you think it's somehow wonderfully benevolent
00:44:01what are your thoughts well I don't know I just it's just yeah maybe there is some
00:44:11kind of like a motive for all of this stuff I don't know maybe it's supposed to lead up to
00:44:17something and maybe I don't know in one of our films we discussed abductions and
00:44:24we had two women who were abducted one but one of them numerous times since she was
00:44:30six years old during the abductions when she got older she was impregnated three
00:44:36different times and carried a child and the child was taken from her at the third
00:44:42month of pregnancy now we've heard this I've heard this as a researcher for decades
00:44:47but then when you sit and you talk to a woman that's actually gone through it not
00:44:51once but three different times and she's been abducted and taken since she was six
00:44:56years old I am 20 years old and I'm living in another state and I am going out the window again you know and it's starting again and about three months after we moved there and this started up again I got pregnant and
00:45:03you know this is
00:45:25and you know this is
00:45:30before
00:45:32well you know back then you had to go into the doctor
00:45:35to you didn't didn't have all these great fast home pregnancy tests
00:45:39went to the doctor
00:45:41I was pregnant
00:45:43you know have everything done
00:45:45healthy you know done all the blood tests
00:45:49all the appointments at about
00:45:53ten to twelve weeks
00:45:56I
00:45:57woke up
00:45:59and I wasn't feeling good and
00:46:01I wasn't bleeding I never had any
00:46:03I was spotted just a little bit
00:46:05my stomach hurt really bad
00:46:07it was about three or four in the morning
00:46:11went into the hospital
00:46:13no heartbeat
00:46:15ultrasound
00:46:17no baby
00:46:19DNC
00:46:20no futile tissue
00:46:21there was nothing
00:46:23it was clean
00:46:24he's like
00:46:25ma'am are you sure you were pregnant
00:46:27I'm like
00:46:28this is my doctor
00:46:29you can call her
00:46:30I was pregnant
00:46:31he's like
00:46:32you didn't bleed all night
00:46:33you don't have
00:46:34nothing came
00:46:35I'm like no nothing came out of me
00:46:37that was the first time that happened
00:46:40over the
00:46:42five or six years that I lived in that place
00:46:45that happened twice
00:46:46is it possible that the mutilations
00:46:48because if they take
00:46:49if they take the child at the third month
00:46:51that child's not developed yet
00:46:53they have to create some sort of an artificial womb
00:46:56recently in the news we heard that
00:46:58now they're creating artificial wombs for human beings
00:47:01it's like brave new world
00:47:03is it possible
00:47:04because we know that bovine blood can be used in human transfusions
00:47:08what are your thoughts when you hear that the mutilations could be used
00:47:12taking that genetic material and the blood to create an artificial wound
00:47:17for the hybrids
00:47:18for these people that have been abducted impregnated
00:47:23and then the hybrid baby taken
00:47:25what are your thoughts when you hear that?
00:47:27I think it's real possible
00:47:30it means the blood of an animal
00:47:33of a cow and a human are so close
00:47:36right
00:47:37so
00:47:40yeah I was talking to one guy one time
00:47:42and telling him about that
00:47:44and he said well they're doing this
00:47:46because they're going to create
00:47:48some kind of a being
00:47:50there you go
00:47:51to my point
00:47:52yeah
00:47:53so maybe it is possible
00:47:55I don't know
00:47:56wow
00:47:57when I pushed her back
00:47:59when she went to kiss me
00:48:00I pushed her back
00:48:01her eyes shape-shifted
00:48:03they went
00:48:04the whites went to a golden color with black streaks
00:48:06and her pupils shrunk
00:48:08I upset her and that's what happened
00:48:11when I pushed her back her eyes shape-shifted
00:48:14and I pushed her off me
00:48:15that was my reaction
00:48:16and I said what the heck was that?
00:48:19and she gave me the most evil laugh you've ever heard
00:48:23and I got the heck out of there
00:48:24and he told me that at the time that the Roswell incident happened
00:48:30that he was in Fort Worth area
00:48:34and they immediately put him on an airplane
00:48:37and told him to get to Roswell
00:48:39so he arrived in Roswell
00:48:42right when the crash
00:48:45and the situation was fresh
00:48:47he said he got there and that
00:48:50they had
00:48:51two bodies
00:48:53one was still alive
00:48:55and I said well you know
00:48:58were they like what we've been told?
00:49:00were they little grey people?
00:49:02and he said well they were small in stature
00:49:06and he said that he tried to communicate with it
00:49:13he was there with them
00:49:16and the one that was
00:49:20they were doing everything they could to
00:49:22try to save the one that was still alive
00:49:25but was severely injured
00:49:27and the second one was already deceased
00:49:30I've been reading about Roswell and the Roswell crash
00:49:46and the mystery metal
00:49:48and all this stuff literally for decades folks
00:49:50and Frank is out here with this metal detector
00:49:52and he gets a hit
00:49:53and we have this all on film
00:49:55and he's digging it out
00:49:56and digging it out
00:49:57and he finally finds
00:49:59he's down to the last little bit of a handful
00:50:02and sure enough
00:50:03there's the piece that comes out
00:50:05that too
00:50:08they appall
00:50:09that
00:50:13kept
00:50:14you
00:50:15you
00:50:16you
00:50:18you
00:50:25you
00:50:26you
00:50:27all
00:50:29you
00:50:30you
00:50:32I don't know, I missed it before, I must have dropped it.
00:51:00All right, it's in that dirt pile, we know that for a few years.
00:51:16Keep dropping it, it's in that hand.
00:51:28Yeah, that's where it is.
00:51:44Oh my god.
00:52:00There it is.
00:52:02Come here guys, we found a piece.
00:52:05Found a piece of it.
00:52:07Right there.
00:52:08It's dirty, it's been buried for a long time.
00:52:10We got another piece.
00:52:12Before it blows away, make sure you hold it.
00:52:15Oh, I didn't get to go anywhere.
00:52:16Okay, let's get rid of the dirt and I'll pour some water over it.
00:52:20You guys got a shot of that?
00:52:22Yeah, here's a second.
00:52:23That's so cool.
00:52:25That is a piece of the metal and we just found it.
00:52:27Do you know how rare that is to actually have that happen?
00:52:31You guys are like, good luck on film.
00:52:35This is only the second time in probably 12 years that we've ever caught this on film.
00:52:40Frank, you are amazing.
00:52:41Oh yeah.
00:52:42They almost always fall.
00:52:43They almost always fall.
00:52:44Now we can clean that photo.
00:52:47Okay.
00:52:48Get pictures?
00:52:49Yep.
00:52:50Actually, you know, what spreads it off?
00:52:57I got it.
00:52:58It's not going.
00:52:59You got it?
00:53:04It looks exactly like the other pieces that you found.
00:53:07This one's even folded up more.
00:53:09Yeah.
00:53:10Wow, that was in the display.
00:53:13So there it is.
00:53:16The mystery metal from Roswell.
00:53:18There we go.
00:53:19That's an old piece too.
00:53:20Look at that.
00:53:21Look at that.
00:53:22Look at that.
00:53:23That's a good piece.
00:53:24That's an amazing piece.
00:53:25That's the largest piece I've ever seen.
00:53:27I have found it three times.
00:53:29No, no, this is, yeah.
00:53:30No, no, let's look at this folder.
00:53:34Yeah, that's folder.
00:53:35This is really amazing because, you know, the chances of finding anything at this point,
00:53:3976 years later, right?
00:53:40Let me explain something.
00:53:42Please do.
00:53:43They're usually in groups.
00:53:44So if there's one here in the span of maybe eight feet, there could very well be another one.
00:53:51Wow.
00:53:52Wow.
00:53:53Wow.
00:53:54Wow.
00:53:55Wow.
00:53:56I'm pretty jazzed.
00:53:57No, I'm really jazzed about it.
00:53:59What are your thoughts on Roswell?
00:54:13My thoughts on Roswell is that the Roswell incident is exactly what Jesse Marcel said it was.
00:54:23It was a crashed saucer.
00:54:25He recovered pieces of this saucer.
00:54:27I do believe bodies were also recovered.
00:54:29I do too.
00:54:30And this was the beginning, in some ways, the beginning of ufology.
00:54:35But it was certainly the beginning of a cover up by the U.S. military regarding UFOs, especially
00:54:44crash retrievals.
00:54:45And again, biological entities recovered in these retrievals.
00:54:49Ms. Mason.
00:54:51Ms. Mason.
00:54:52Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good morning to our witnesses who are testifying today.
00:54:58I want to thank each of you for being here to discuss a topic of grave importance to our
00:55:02national security.
00:55:03Earlier this year, a Chinese spy balloon was shot down off the coast of my home state of
00:55:08South Carolina.
00:55:09Since the Roswell incident in 1947, many Americans have wondered about the dangers of unknown objects
00:55:15crisscrossing our skies.
00:55:17Whether these are UAPs or weather phenomena, advanced technology from American allied or
00:55:22enemy forces or something more out of this world.
00:55:25Mr. Gresh, a couple of questions for you too, sir, this morning.
00:55:29What percentage of UAPs do you feel are adequately investigated by the U.S. government?
00:55:34Of the 5% that are reported.
00:55:36I can only speak for my personal leadership over at NGA.
00:55:41I tried to look at every report that came through that I could triage.
00:55:44Do you believe that officials at the highest levels of our national security apparatus have
00:55:49unlawfully withheld information from Congress and subverted our oversight authority?
00:55:55There are certain elected leaders that had more information that I'm not sure what they've
00:56:01shared with certain gang of eight members or et cetera, but certainly I would not be surprised.
00:56:07Okay.
00:56:08You've stated that the government is in possession of potentially non-human spacecraft.
00:56:13Based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts, do you believe our government has
00:56:19made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials?
00:56:22Something I can't discuss in a public setting.
00:56:27Okay, I can't ask when you think this occurred.
00:56:32If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
00:56:39As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.
00:56:45Yeah.
00:56:46Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?
00:56:51Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to
00:56:56that are currently still on the program.
00:56:58And was this documentary evidence, this video, photos, eyewitness, like how would that be determined?
00:57:05The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about.
00:57:09Gotcha.
00:57:10Okay.
00:57:11So, and you may or may not be able to answer my last question, and maybe we get into a
00:57:15skiff at the next hearing that we have.
00:57:17But who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be
00:57:24called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
00:57:30And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera,
00:57:34do we need to call in to get these questions answered?
00:57:36Questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there.
00:57:40I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.
00:57:48And how soon can we get that list?
00:57:50I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.
00:57:52Super.
00:57:54And I yield back.
00:57:55So, let me ask you something.
00:57:57They had the old guard, General Ramey and the crew.
00:58:01They had a chance.
00:58:02They had a moment in time where the government could have said, okay, they're here.
00:58:06We're not sure what this is.
00:58:07We have a crashing.
00:58:08They could have done that, but they didn't do that.
00:58:10They deliberately obfuscated, and they lied to the American people.
00:58:14I mean, they ball-faced lied.
00:58:16So, all this has changed now.
00:58:18That's the old guard, Ramey and the crew.
00:58:20They're all dead.
00:58:21And now we're seeing this stuff released on Fox News and CNN and all sorts of other media.
00:58:28We have, you know, metal with isotopic ratios, not found on this earth.
00:58:33We've got metal from crashed UFOs, probably recovered bodies.
00:58:38The Pentagon has crafts in their possession, not made on this world, and on and on it goes.
00:58:44What are your thoughts?
00:58:45You know, that's a really good point.
00:58:47That is the pivotal moment when the Pentagon decided to lie about what happened at Roswell.
00:58:58And that really set the stage for, as you said, the rollout of aggressive obfuscation of the UFO phenomenon.
00:59:08Even to the degree of harassing people, persecuting people, and perhaps even killing people for knowing too much or talking too much.
00:59:16I agree.
00:59:17And then, of course, it gets into the abduction realm and everything that was happening there.
00:59:23And so the government could have taken a different path and been honest with the American people.
00:59:30And it's very unfortunate that the choice was made to lie.
00:59:35And they told the truth, of course, right out of the gates that they would cover a flying disc.
00:59:41Right.
00:59:42And they put it in the paper.
00:59:44It was a few headlines.
00:59:45And then, of course, they announced it on the radio.
00:59:48So right out of the gates, we had the truth.
00:59:51And then came the lie.
00:59:52And that lie persisted for decades.
00:59:55And it's finally now beginning to, we're finally beginning to get some kind of admission from the Pentagon that the phenomenon is real.
01:00:05In fact, I would say that the controversy is over.
01:00:08The UFO controversy is over.
01:00:11This will be the final installment in our 10-part UFO series.
01:00:18Number 10, of course, will be sort of our side of the aisle, what we believe is really happening, that this is the coming great deception, the strong delusion that ancient biblical texts tell us about that were written thousands of years ago.
01:00:34Folks, I truly believe we are on the cusp of something.
01:00:37And I've stated this before, and I'll say it again here.
01:00:41I believe that we are looking at some sort of nuclear event which may take place on this planet.
01:00:48Think about it for a moment.
01:00:50A nuclear event in 2024 would change everything.
01:00:56We are now, the entire planet is now connected via the internet.
01:01:01We watch everything in real time.
01:01:03News travels around the world at the speed of light.
01:01:06If you have a nuclear event anywhere on this planet, all eyes will be on it.
01:01:12The satellite system that links everything together will be in full operation.
01:01:17The grid will be lit up.
01:01:19We will all watch, in horror, as things and events unfold, the aftermath of a nuclear exchange.
01:01:27This will create the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced.
01:01:34In my opinion, this is the perfect time for them to show up.
01:01:39Because when they finally show up, they will state that we created all life on this planet.
01:01:44We genetically manipulated early man.
01:01:46We started the world's civilizations and religions.
01:01:49And now, at this critical juncture in human history, we are back to usher mankind into a golden age.
01:01:57Is it possible, is it possible that when we go up, they show up?
01:02:03That's a phrase I coined a number of years ago.
01:02:05A good friend of mine, Mondo Gonzales, sat down with a friend of kids, Jeff Van Hatton.
01:02:09The two of them were discussing the idea of, we go up, they show up.
01:02:13I'm going to give you three scriptures, which I think you'll find pregnant with meaning.
01:02:19The first is this.
01:02:20When Elijah, the prophet, is caught up in a whirlwind, Elijah, his servant, watches the event.
01:02:26Elijah just doesn't disappear like that.
01:02:29The second one is when Jesus ascends into heaven.
01:02:33The disciples are gathered together, and who knows how many people are there.
01:02:38And they're watching him physically ascend into heaven.
01:02:42He just doesn't disappear.
01:02:44He goes into the clouds, and then they lose sight of him.
01:02:47The third one is found in the book of Revelation, which obviously is future.
01:02:52There are two witnesses.
01:02:54Their bodies lay on the streets of Jerusalem for a number of days.
01:02:58Then they are caught up into the clouds, and the whole world watches.
01:03:03Is it possible that when we go up, the world will see us go up?
01:03:09But to the world, it will appear like we've gone into motherships, UFOs.
01:03:16If that's true, this would definitely create the coming Great Deception.
01:03:21That's a hypothesis.
01:03:23It's a very interesting one.
01:03:25We go up, they show up.
01:03:26We go up, they come down.
01:03:28I think we are on the cusp of something.
01:03:30And this is why we created these nine films.
01:03:34To warn of what we believe is the coming Great Deception.
01:04:00I hope it David lawyer will growFromAqu
01:04:09and highnesses have recognized them quickly.
01:04:15I hope that you find it really beautiful.
01:04:16You will find that this makes peace of space at that time.
01:04:20Hopefully, nothing else.
01:04:22J trip into the wake of the wind in.
01:04:25So that's fantastic.
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