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00:00:00Something very dark and disturbing is happening.
00:00:26It is a global phenomenon that knows no boundaries and adheres to no cultural mores.
00:00:39And the ones who are engaged in this nefarious activity do so with impunity.
00:00:46People are being taken against their will.
00:00:50In the cover of darkness in the dead of night,
00:00:53they are subjected to bizarre examinations that are often sexual in nature.
00:01:00These people are terrified, violated, confused, and with no place to turn to,
00:01:07as who would believe them.
00:01:10This is their story.
00:01:17You've had experiences.
00:01:36Yes.
00:01:37Tell us about the experiences.
00:01:42Going back as far as I can remember,
00:01:44the first time I really remember was the summer before my sixth birthday.
00:01:50And it happened usually always at the same place at my grandparents' farmhouse.
00:02:01It wasn't just me, but I won't mention the other people.
00:02:07And it was scary.
00:02:08I was just a scared little kid.
00:02:10You know, I used to think if I could find a suitcase and put it under the bed and get inside it and zip it up,
00:02:17they wouldn't be able to find me.
00:02:19And how old were you?
00:02:20I don't know.
00:02:21I don't know.
00:02:22The first I remember, I was five years old.
00:02:27And what happened when you were five?
00:02:30Tell us.
00:02:32I was taken from my grandparents' farmhouse.
00:02:39And they knew who I was and they took my sister too, but she was not having it.
00:02:49I was very compliant.
00:02:51I was a scared little kid.
00:02:52I did whatever anyone told me to do.
00:02:55How old was your sister?
00:02:57My sister was eight years old at the time.
00:03:00They would come at night when I was there and I would be in a place that was underground most of the time.
00:03:18It wasn't, I don't remember ever being up in the air.
00:03:22I remember being in the air traveling, but I don't have any ship type memories.
00:03:28I don't.
00:03:29But they would take me to a place, a facility.
00:03:34The walls were smooth and white and curved.
00:03:40It's funny the things you remember when you're little.
00:03:44And there were other children.
00:03:47There were lots of other children there.
00:03:49Well, I think I've been abducted since childhood.
00:03:52I mean, I can remember these beings, if you want to call them that,
00:03:55when I was five, six, seven years old, entering my bedroom one way or another.
00:04:02And it continued up until about I was 15.
00:04:05The first time I remember being taken was in 1992.
00:04:10I do believe when I was a child and I was having these ongoing things out at the hockey rink.
00:04:16But back then, I did not have a clue what was going on with me.
00:04:20I was having nosebleeds, paranoia, scared to go in the basement.
00:04:24All of a sudden, after seeing these UFOs, these things were happening to me.
00:04:28But as a child, I didn't know what it was.
00:04:31I'd ask my mom.
00:04:32I go, why am I having these nosebleeds?
00:04:34What are these weird marks on me?
00:04:36Oh, that's a weird spider bite.
00:04:38My mom didn't know either.
00:04:40When you were taken from the bed, do you remember how you left the room?
00:04:47Sometimes, yes, I do.
00:04:50Sometimes it was up through the ceiling.
00:04:53There was this Lone Ranger square lamp on the ceiling.
00:04:59Sometimes I would go right up so close to that lamp.
00:05:03I was like, how is this not hurting me?
00:05:07I could be so close to it.
00:05:09I could see every detail in that lamp.
00:05:11Sometimes it was through the window, which was there beside the bed.
00:05:15Also, always closed.
00:05:17So, they didn't open the window.
00:05:20You went through the window.
00:05:21Through the window.
00:05:22Or through the ceiling.
00:05:24But at times, it's weird.
00:05:26I can sense something in the room and it makes you really frightened inside.
00:05:33Like an animal is about to get captured or something.
00:05:36And that's it in a short.
00:05:40I mean, I'm just in torment.
00:05:41I always told them as a child that I was having nightmares and walking in my sleep.
00:05:47So, they put locks on the doors and windows so I can't get out because they're afraid I'm going to drown in the pool.
00:05:52And they find me outside with everything still locked up.
00:05:56So, you explained that to me.
00:05:59I was in my room and woke up at 2-2-2 in the morning.
00:06:04How do I know that?
00:06:05I catapulted upright out of bed.
00:06:07I was sleeping on my back.
00:06:09I turned and looked at my alarm clock.
00:06:11It was 2-2-2.
00:06:13Then I heard a voice in my head.
00:06:15This stuff I remember as clear as day.
00:06:18And something was telling me to open the curtain in the bedroom.
00:06:22And this sounds, obviously this is all strange.
00:06:26I'm looking at the curtains going, no.
00:06:28I'm not looking out.
00:06:29I'm not looking out.
00:06:30I'm not opening the curtain.
00:06:32The next thing you know, what am I doing?
00:06:34I'm opening the curtain.
00:06:35And I see light emanating outside by an oak tree right outside the window.
00:06:41Maybe four or five feet away from the window.
00:06:45With these two beings, I thought they were walking around the tree.
00:06:49I looked down at their feet and they were floating.
00:06:52They were humanoid, square jaws, ghost white, and once again, totally black eyes.
00:06:58And every time they went around the tree, their head would turn and look at me looking out the window.
00:07:02I just think of me now looking out that window with these things staring at me with my jaw dropped going, what the heck?
00:07:10Here we go again.
00:07:11Then missing time.
00:07:13Five hours later, don't remember what happened after they shut me off, after seeing these beings outside.
00:07:20Five hours later, dropped onto my couch from four or five feet.
00:07:25Did I go through the ceiling?
00:07:26I don't know.
00:07:27Shaking again.
00:07:28Wet my pants.
00:07:30Violated.
00:07:31That's all I know.
00:07:32Karen, I want you to know something.
00:07:34Maybe this will make you feel better.
00:07:36Every person I've ever talked to that's been taken, that's been abducted, they go through the window and the window never opens.
00:07:45You're not alone.
00:07:46You're not alone.
00:07:47It's just, and you're like, am I crazy?
00:07:49Did I dream this?
00:07:50But it happens again and again.
00:07:53And you feel it and you're there and you remember it.
00:07:56When the memories are there, it's just...
00:07:58I say, well, does the window in some way open by itself?
00:08:03And I say, no, no, it doesn't open by itself.
00:08:07And she says, I think I'm going right through the closed window.
00:08:11And she says to me, does anybody else ever report that?
00:08:14Not knowing that everybody reports that.
00:08:18What you're looking at when people fly through windows and walls and the ceilings and this and that is future physics.
00:08:25Mathematically, it can be done.
00:08:30If you do it mathematically, because if the earth can be squashed into the size of a grape or a softball or whatever it is,
00:08:37everything is made up of molecules in their space.
00:08:40That's true.
00:08:41Right.
00:08:42So mathematically it's possible.
00:08:43But in our universe and in our level of technology, which is brand new, it can't be done.
00:08:51What did the entities look like?
00:08:53There were different ones at different times.
00:08:58Most of them, especially to me, were really scary.
00:09:02They had their faces weren't right.
00:09:06Their eyes were too big and their heads were really big.
00:09:10And they were just cold and pale.
00:09:15And I remember touching one, like a hand of one once and it felt like touching a cold stick.
00:09:26And it just, it was scary.
00:09:29What did they look like?
00:09:32What did these entities look like?
00:09:34They are typical grays.
00:09:36I didn't get a quick, I already got a quick look at them because it was so funny.
00:09:39There they were, but they were tall.
00:09:41One was about almost 6'8", the height of the door jamb.
00:09:48And another guy was maybe 5'9".
00:09:50And I didn't really, can't tell you what the eyes looked like because it was dark.
00:09:56But you can definitely see the figures, you can see the outlines, you can see the silver or gray.
00:10:03There was no doubt in my mind that I was going to just try to run through them and try to get out the front door.
00:10:09There was, you know, 3 or 4 in the morning, whatever it was, I was out in my front yard standing by myself,
00:10:14afraid to go back in the house for a while.
00:10:17Are you familiar with what the grays look like?
00:10:20Yes, I am now.
00:10:22Did you see any of the grays?
00:10:24Absolutely, that is the closest thing I've seen.
00:10:28And the funny thing is, until about 2 or 3 years ago,
00:10:32whenever, you know, these shows would start popping up on TV and show these pictures
00:10:36or you'd see something on the internet once that got really popular
00:10:39because that was never in my life until then.
00:10:41I couldn't look.
00:10:42I couldn't look at them.
00:10:43I couldn't, if I was scanning through channels, I couldn't stop on that TV channel.
00:10:47I would just have a panic attack.
00:10:49I just thought to myself, that's a UFO.
00:10:52And back then there was no YouTube, there was no videos to watch.
00:10:57I had never even thought about UFOs or aliens or much less them coming to my house.
00:11:02And so I said, I spoke in myself and I said, that's a UFO.
00:11:07And I said, but in myself, I'm speaking in myself.
00:11:10And I said, but why are you here?
00:11:12And they answered me instantly.
00:11:15As soon as I thought it, as soon as I said it, they answered me instantly.
00:11:19And they said, we are here for you.
00:11:21Very assertive, very direct, very instant.
00:11:24And I began to scream.
00:11:26I have never felt that much fear in my life.
00:11:29I didn't even know.
00:11:31The only thing I knew to do was scream.
00:11:33My husband was in the bed.
00:11:35I was married at the time.
00:11:36His name was Trey.
00:11:39And I started screaming, Trey, help!
00:11:43I mean, I was screaming, like, with everything within me.
00:11:49I don't even think I could scream all out at this point.
00:11:52But I was so scared.
00:11:55And I probably screamed twice before something, I want to say, like a stun gun or maybe like paralyzing force.
00:12:08It was, it just, it almost felt like gravity pulling me to the ground.
00:12:14Whatever it was, it pulled me to the ground.
00:12:17Or I fell to the ground.
00:12:19And I mean all the way to the ground.
00:12:22Face first on the ground.
00:12:23Could not pick up my finger.
00:12:25Could not move my leg.
00:12:26I had my eyes open for maybe three seconds.
00:12:29And I was looking at the corner of my eye.
00:12:32I didn't see anything.
00:12:33And then I was out.
00:12:36So you were face down?
00:12:38I was completely face down.
00:12:39Okay.
00:12:40At the foot of the bed.
00:12:41I must have fell to my knees is what I think.
00:12:44I don't know for sure.
00:12:45I always tell it this way because this is what it feels like.
00:12:49If you've ever been to a fair and there's a ride that will spin you around.
00:12:54And it kind of plasters you.
00:12:56And it splashes you.
00:12:57Yeah, it plasters you too.
00:12:58That's what it felt like.
00:12:59Because I was completely flat on my stomach.
00:13:02Face on the ground.
00:13:03I could not pick up my head.
00:13:05I was aware that I could not move for maybe three seconds.
00:13:08And then I went completely out.
00:13:10And that was it.
00:13:12Okay.
00:13:13I don't have any other memory of anything else at that moment.
00:13:18Except for I know that I saw the front and the bottom of the ship.
00:13:22And like I said, I lived in a trailer or a mobile home that was 18 by 80.
00:13:26So it was very long.
00:13:27And my bedroom was at the very end.
00:13:29And my front door was at the front.
00:13:32And the ship was at the front.
00:13:35And so I had to have been outside to see the opening on that ship.
00:13:39So you saw, you said an opening?
00:13:42Well, I saw white light coming from the bottom.
00:13:45Okay.
00:13:46So to me, I feel like that was the opening.
00:13:48I don't know for sure.
00:13:49So I'm not going to say.
00:13:50But I feel like I saw the bottom of it.
00:13:53And I know I was up close to it to see what I saw.
00:13:56Because I know where my bedroom was, where I was at.
00:13:59Okay.
00:14:00So you saw the bottom of it.
00:14:03Okay.
00:14:04So what was your, what is your next memory?
00:14:08Next memory is, that I know for sure, is that I was sitting in a waiting room.
00:14:14Being switched off, which has happened many times.
00:14:17As I said, three to four seconds.
00:14:19You just feel like you're falling asleep all of a sudden.
00:14:22You know, I'm driving a car and then all of a sudden I'm falling asleep.
00:14:26And then that's the last thing you remember.
00:14:29But I will also say, being on these ships and being taken, especially after I was lowered
00:14:36in that beam of light with five hours of missing time.
00:14:39And I was shaking violently.
00:14:42I had wet my pants.
00:14:43I had known they violated me.
00:14:45I knew that for a fact.
00:14:47I went into the fetal position.
00:14:49But the reason why they totally shut me off.
00:14:52This is my belief, is because of the way I reacted.
00:14:56So fearful of this.
00:14:58They didn't want me letting other people know.
00:15:02Like, what they were doing was good.
00:15:04I wasn't supposed to wake up in the car when I was lowered in that car in that beam of light.
00:15:09Vibrating.
00:15:10Scared beyond scared.
00:15:12At times I have woken up.
00:15:14But never, never on the ship.
00:15:17I would have dreams of being on the ship.
00:15:20Three nights in a row I'd have consecutive vivid, vivid dreams of the same thing happening to me.
00:15:27Being in a room, on a metal table.
00:15:31The room was cold.
00:15:33It was almost misty.
00:15:35There was light coming into the room.
00:15:38But it wasn't like light bulbs or anything.
00:15:40I would just look up.
00:15:41When I woke up.
00:15:42And I looked to the left of me.
00:15:44And I saw these two little three footers.
00:15:46And they were ghost white with black round eyes.
00:15:49Just staring at me with their head on an angle.
00:15:52I looked to the right.
00:15:53There were two more.
00:15:54And then they shut me off like that.
00:15:55Now you're in a place.
00:15:57You went to bed with your pajamas.
00:16:00Tell us, are you wearing any clothes in this place?
00:16:04Have they changed you?
00:16:07Sometimes I'm in my pajamas.
00:16:10Sometimes I'm in like a gown, like a hospital type gown kind of thing.
00:16:16Sometimes I'm naked, which is really uncomfortable.
00:16:19One of these men that was there, he was really mean to the children.
00:16:28Like keeping them in line, you know, you do what you're told.
00:16:31Was he a human?
00:16:32He was human.
00:16:33He was human.
00:16:34And when I started kindergarten later that year, my principal looked a lot like this man.
00:16:43And every time I'd see him in the hallway, I'd go in the bathroom and hide.
00:16:48And they found me in there once.
00:16:51And I tried to tell the nurse what happened to me.
00:17:00And she called my mom.
00:17:02And my mom took me to the doctor.
00:17:04And the doctor said there's nothing wrong with her.
00:17:06She's just telling stories she'll forget.
00:17:08Do you remember being on the table at all?
00:17:10Do you remember going into the ship?
00:17:12Or was that all completely blacked out?
00:17:14The only thing I remember several times is being transported or lifted up out of my bed through the ceiling, the roof of my house as fast as you possibly thought.
00:17:29And I had my clothes being pulled back.
00:17:31And I always thought, I'm really traveling fast here for my clothes to be pulled back from the friction or whatever was happening.
00:17:39But I do remember being beamed up.
00:17:41But moments after that, it's just a blackout.
00:17:44Let me ask you something.
00:17:46You talked about that they put locks on the doors on the windows to keep you from going outside your room.
00:17:52And then you, and I've heard this before, so you're, they find you outside the house and everything is still locked up.
00:17:59Yep.
00:18:00Now, did they ever talk about it at all?
00:18:03Nope.
00:18:04They just swept it under the rug.
00:18:06You know, when I was a child back in the early sixties, people weren't as outspoken.
00:18:13There wasn't a lot of alien abduction, UFO specials on TV or anything.
00:18:19So maybe the thought never even crossed their mind.
00:18:22Just somehow I was an escape artist, so I'm sleepwalking or something.
00:18:25But like I said, the locks were at my grandmother's house because she had a pool.
00:18:30And I spent a lot of time at grandmother's house.
00:18:32And they were afraid I was going to end up, you know, floating in the pool one night.
00:18:36So that's where the locks came in.
00:18:38And even at the grandmother's house, you know, neighborhood kids back in those days would have campouts in the backyard.
00:18:45And they even visited me back in, with a bunch of kids sleeping.
00:18:49All of a sudden here they come over the wall and say hello.
00:18:52And then you see them, then you back out.
00:18:54So now you're in this place, did they perform like a medical examination on you?
00:19:01Yes.
00:19:02And could you describe what the medical examination is?
00:19:05And what I can remember was, I remember one of them, and I went to school and told all my friends.
00:19:13And they didn't believe me.
00:19:14And of course, you know, that's a whole other story when you learn not to tell anyone.
00:19:19When they gave me a shot in my neck or something, I kept telling them when I got a big shot in my neck, a big, you know, and try and tell the kids at school.
00:19:30And then they looked at something that seemed like an x-ray to me.
00:19:33It was the closest thing I could say to it of my chest and put another big needle in, which I thought was my chest or somewhere in that area.
00:19:41So where did you put the needle?
00:19:43One in my neck and one in my chest, like right here, kind of.
00:19:51Right below this?
00:19:52Right below, yeah, like in that area.
00:19:56But they examined every part of me, my eyes, my ears, my teeth, my, you know, your nose.
00:20:03I mean, just, it was invasive, wholly invasive.
00:20:09Did they ever get close to you, face eyes to eyes, face to face, and then give you memories?
00:20:17You would see things in your mind?
00:20:19Yes.
00:20:20What were some of the things?
00:20:21That is funny that you say that.
00:20:22Yes.
00:20:23What were some of the things?
00:20:24The one that was the most poignant to me.
00:20:27And it was very poignant and it was very early on in this process because I was talking, I was telling people what was happening to me.
00:20:34And they told me I had to stop telling anyone what was happening.
00:20:40And they showed me all of my family members being beheaded in front of me.
00:20:48And they did it to my sister.
00:20:50They gave her a very similar memory and she just woke up.
00:20:53They showed her them dying in a car crash.
00:20:56And she woke up that night in the middle of the night and just screaming and screaming and screaming and wouldn't stop screaming.
00:21:04And we got in so much trouble because she just wouldn't stop screaming, you know, waking up everybody, that kind of thing.
00:21:11But it was terrifying because I didn't want to be responsible for my family having something happen to them like that.
00:21:23And they told me they could spray something on their neck and any time I said something they could activate it.
00:21:30And it would kill them.
00:21:35And how does a six year old kid come up with something like that?
00:21:40You say violated, I mean, are you talking about basically being raped?
00:21:45That's, that's what I call it.
00:21:47Yes.
00:21:48Yeah.
00:21:49And we know that from other abductees that I've talked to through the years of my research, that sperm is taken from the man, ovum is taken from the woman.
00:22:00Women, oftentimes when they're taken and they're impregnated, actually in the third month they're re-ubducted and the baby is taken from them.
00:22:11Heard that many times, yeah.
00:22:13Now when you, do you recall meeting anyone else during these abductions?
00:22:20No.
00:22:21No.
00:22:22Because you switched off.
00:22:24Totally switched off and as I said, I used to counsel at a UFO meetup group in Vancouver.
00:22:32And I would talk to certain abductees where you know just by looking in their eyes that they've had horrific things happen to them.
00:22:39They talk to me, they get the same feeling from me.
00:22:43It's not like somebody supposedly meeting the space brothers and they're all happy.
00:22:48This was totally, totally beyond scary.
00:22:52So the gentleman I talked to who had multiple abductions, he was like me.
00:22:59He just so fearful of this stuff.
00:23:02I mean I couldn't even, I've talked to abductees where they can do drawings when they're on the, they've been on the ship showing actually sexual encounters and drawing them.
00:23:13And I'm just, and the guy's telling me, he goes, oh this, this was cool.
00:23:17I'm used for a breeding program.
00:23:19I'm serving a higher purpose.
00:23:21And I go, well you're being kidnapped and raped.
00:23:24So they more or less brainwashed you with me.
00:23:29On the other hand, what I was encountering was totally demonic.
00:23:34And I say there's different degrees of this stuff.
00:23:37But it's how you react to what you're, what they're doing to you.
00:23:41And as I said, they would shut me right off.
00:23:44Have I woken up?
00:23:45Yes.
00:23:46And they shut you off again.
00:23:48So they were trying to use me for their breeding program and then keep me silent about it by blanking my memory.
00:23:57But as I said, I would have dreams.
00:23:59I would have vivid, vivid dreams.
00:24:01And none of them were good.
00:24:04Are you still being taken at 9, 10, 12?
00:24:08Did it stop?
00:24:09Did it increase, decrease?
00:24:12It continued on through puberty.
00:24:18And it stopped when I was 18 years old and my roommates and I were born again.
00:24:27And we started going to Rod Parsley's church, of all places.
00:24:31And found this awesome little bread of life church, full gospel, gifts of the spirit, amazing.
00:24:41And for those years, no one bothered me.
00:24:45I was free.
00:24:47And then I got married and he wasn't comfortable continuing on with where I was comfortable going.
00:25:00And I was compliant because I'd been taught to be compliant from a very young age.
00:25:08So while I still had my faith, I stopped going to church.
00:25:13And it started again.
00:25:15And that's...
00:25:16Let me stop you for a second.
00:25:18So when you were in church and you were taken again.
00:25:25And then the moment, not the moment, but soon after, you stopped going to church, what happens?
00:25:31It starts up again.
00:25:33How old are you then?
00:25:35I'm 20 years old and I'm living in another state.
00:25:40And I am going out the window again.
00:25:45You know, it's starting again.
00:25:50And about three months after we moved there and this started up again, I got pregnant.
00:26:00And, you know, this is before, well, you know, back then you had to go into the doctor to, you didn't, didn't have all these great fast home pregnancy tests.
00:26:17Went to the doctor.
00:26:19I was pregnant, you know, having everything done, healthy, you know, got all the blood tests, all the appointments at about,
00:26:2910 to 12 weeks.
00:26:34I woke up and I wasn't feeling good and I wasn't bleeding.
00:26:40I never had any, I was spotted just a little bit.
00:26:43My stomach hurt really bad.
00:26:46It was about three or four in the morning.
00:26:49Went into the hospital.
00:26:51No heartbeat.
00:26:54Ultrasound, no baby.
00:26:56DNC, no fetal tissue.
00:26:58There was nothing, it was clean.
00:27:01He's like, ma'am, are you sure you were pregnant?
00:27:04I'm like, this is my doctor.
00:27:06You can call her.
00:27:07I was pregnant.
00:27:08He's like, you didn't bleed all night.
00:27:10You don't have, nothing came out of me.
00:27:13I'm like, no, nothing came out of me.
00:27:15That was the first time that happened.
00:27:18Over the five or six years that I lived in that place, that happened twice again.
00:27:24Seeing the three in my room, I got up and I was going to tackle through them to get out of the house.
00:27:29And they just disappeared instantly.
00:27:32They were there one minute, gone the next.
00:27:34I can't explain it.
00:27:36And since then, I've had senses.
00:27:40I've sensed somebody in the room, a terrifying feeling.
00:27:45I've gone to bed where I've thought, I can't go to sleep.
00:27:49So I get up in the middle of the night and just read a book or something and write it out.
00:27:55But at times, I can, it's weird.
00:27:57I can sense something in the room and it makes you really frightened inside.
00:28:03Like an animal is about to get captured or something.
00:28:06Okay, so you said you were three months pregnant and then what happened?
00:28:10I found out I was three months pregnant and I went home and a couple of weeks later, I started spotting.
00:28:17I started spotting and you're not supposed to bleed when you're pregnant.
00:28:22So I knew something was wrong and I was really upset because I had lost a child before.
00:28:28I was pregnant when my first son carried him full term and he had a heart defect and he passed away.
00:28:33So this was a year later and it was really, it was really sad.
00:28:36So I was trying to keep it.
00:28:38I was trying to get my body right and hang on.
00:28:41And the doctor said, you probably passed this child over the weekend and then you'll have to come back in and see us.
00:28:51It was so strange though, Yvonne, because they did an ultrasound and I saw the womb and I saw where the baby was supposed to be.
00:28:58And at first there was a heartbeat, the first time there was a heartbeat, right?
00:29:03And you can see a baby when they're in there.
00:29:05You can see the dot inside your womb.
00:29:08But when I went and saw, when she did an ultrasound, the next time I went, there was nothing there.
00:29:13There was nothing.
00:29:14What did they say?
00:29:15What's the doctor say?
00:29:16They just said, this is the womb, but there's nothing there.
00:29:19Do you remember being in so much pain, bleeding, being on the toilet, passing anything?
00:29:32I remember I laid down and I was so determined to keep it.
00:29:36I was so determined.
00:29:37That's when you were spotting?
00:29:38Yeah.
00:29:39And I was trying to do everything the doctor said to do.
00:29:42Lay down, rest, don't get up, you're bedridden until things get better.
00:29:47And then it just started, I started feeling cramps.
00:29:50I started feeling, you know, the contractions and stuff like that.
00:29:54And I'd had a baby before, so I know what it feels like.
00:29:57But it's so strange to me and it just sticks out so much.
00:30:01It's because there was a heartbeat and then there was not.
00:30:05And there was nothing in my womb.
00:30:07Did they ever take you again and show you the child?
00:30:14I have no memory of ever meeting any of my children on a ship or anything like that.
00:30:23But what I will tell you and what brought back a flood of other memories.
00:30:29I started having this weird feeling that I had more children.
00:30:39You know, it was just, it was bothering, bothering, bothering me.
00:30:42I woke up in the middle of the night, two or three in the morning, and there's three children standing by my bed.
00:30:52And at first, I wake up, I see them.
00:30:58And the first thing I thought is, oh, my kids are, what's the matter?
00:31:01My kids are here by the bed.
00:31:02I have four children.
00:31:03And they looked like my boys.
00:31:10And I said, one of my boys' names, what are you doing?
00:31:14And then, as you know, when you first wake up, you don't see very clear.
00:31:17Plus, there were contacts.
00:31:18And so it takes a while for my eyes to focus.
00:31:20And then I realized, wait, these aren't my boys.
00:31:22They're too short.
00:31:23My boys are taller than this.
00:31:24They're not as tall as my boys.
00:31:26And they started trying to pull me off the bed, but not physically with hands, but I felt them pulling me.
00:31:34And I'm like, no, no.
00:31:36In Jesus' name, no, I am not going.
00:31:39And they're pulling, and I'm pulling back.
00:31:41And I'm like, no, not this time.
00:31:43No.
00:31:44And I'm like, and it resists.
00:31:47It breaks the pull.
00:31:49And as soon as that pull, and I'm paralyzed at this point.
00:31:53I've had, oh my gosh, I've had so many times where I've had that sleep paralysis.
00:31:58Same thing.
00:31:59I was having that sleep paralysis.
00:32:01I break out of that, and I hit my husband.
00:32:03I'm like, why aren't you helping me?
00:32:06You know?
00:32:07I'm like, why didn't you help me?
00:32:10He wakes up, he's like, what?
00:32:11I'm like, didn't you see them?
00:32:13Why didn't you help me?
00:32:14So he's completely off.
00:32:15Completely out of.
00:32:16Is this the same husband that you were married to?
00:32:18Yes.
00:32:19When you were 18?
00:32:20Oh, no, no, no.
00:32:21This is a different husband.
00:32:22He's the one you met.
00:32:23Right.
00:32:24And he's born again, spirit filled.
00:32:25Yes.
00:32:26So let me ask you something.
00:32:28The three children that were standing there next to the bed, what did they look like?
00:32:31Did they look human or not human?
00:32:34No.
00:32:35There were some features that reminded me of my kids.
00:32:39Okay.
00:32:40Like one of my kids is in bootcamp and they'll put pictures out with like a hundred kids and
00:32:44I could find him every time.
00:32:46Do you know what I mean?
00:32:47You just, it's like the where's Waldo, but you're really good at it.
00:32:50And there were features that I recognized.
00:32:53And that's why immediately I just knew I was like, and immediately I thought it was them.
00:32:57Cause that's kind of where your mind first goes.
00:32:59And then I realized, nope, their faces were too big or too fat, too round.
00:33:05They weren't, they were too short.
00:33:08They were too, they were, I've often, after that, I kind of looked into this a little bit
00:33:14cause I was curious.
00:33:15And I've heard people talk about the skinny or whatever.
00:33:18They seemed really stocky to me.
00:33:20Stocky.
00:33:21But shorter than your?
00:33:22Shorter than my kids.
00:33:23Mm-hmm.
00:33:24Maybe.
00:33:25How tall were they?
00:33:26Maybe four, four and a half feet.
00:33:28Did you look at the eyes at all?
00:33:30I did, it was dark.
00:33:33Their eyes seemed to be almost glowy, but not glowy.
00:33:37That's probably the wrong.
00:33:39They were dark and intense.
00:33:41Larger than normal human beings?
00:33:43Oh yeah.
00:33:44Very much so.
00:33:45So they were, without putting words in your mouth, is it safe to say that there was perhaps
00:33:50an alien component to the children that were there?
00:33:54Oh, for sure.
00:33:55And what bothered me about it, and I really had to pray on this for a while.
00:34:00Because at first, and I don't like that I felt this way, I wanted them to come back.
00:34:07Because I thought, they're half me.
00:34:10That means there must be some God in them.
00:34:13And maybe they just need love, and maybe I can find a way.
00:34:17Because they're alive.
00:34:19And I prayed, and I prayed on it, and I knew that there was nothing in there.
00:34:24There was no soul.
00:34:25And I think what they're trying to, I think, you know, I think they're trying to manufacture souls.
00:34:31I think they're trying to figure out how to get a soul.
00:34:33They didn't have, they didn't have that.
00:34:36There was no compassion in their eyes.
00:34:38You know, when you look at people, you see even some of the most damaged people in this world.
00:34:42You look at them, you can still see some kind of person, some kind of love, some kind of compassion.
00:34:47Maybe just feeling in there.
00:34:49It was cold.
00:34:52It was just so cold.
00:34:54And I realized there was nothing there for me to save.
00:34:59And the best thing I could do was just pray and pray and pray in a way that they never came back.
00:35:05And I don't want anything to do with them.
00:35:07In our first film, UFO Disclosure, when I met you for the first time, and you were beginning to relay this incredible story with this woman who can only be described as a hybrid.
00:35:20I'm sort of giving away the farm here, but, you know, she was, in my opinion, a hybrid.
00:35:26And that is alarming in itself.
00:35:28But she's moving in from away, she's got this storage container.
00:35:33We show all this in the film.
00:35:34You talk about it.
00:35:36And now you're alone with her on a freight elevator.
00:35:38And she leans over, and she whispers in your ear, and she says, they're listening, Al.
00:35:43Yes.
00:35:44And you kind of go, oh.
00:35:45She goes, you know, they're great.
00:35:47I know that you've taken many time, so have I.
00:35:50We were supposed to be on the ship.
00:35:52So, you know, I've been wanting to ask you this now since that very first interview in 2016.
00:35:59They were, she was, she pursued you.
00:36:03She sort of relentless, talk about that.
00:36:06Oh, she definitely did.
00:36:08To meet somebody, obviously, that you've never met before, and believe me, I have never met her before, on a ship, maybe, but how would I know?
00:36:17When they blank your memory, and boy, did they try and blank my memory.
00:36:22Just the things she would ask me, and it became sexual with her.
00:36:27And as I said, I have a girlfriend.
00:36:30It's the time she got on top of me, lifting my shirt up, saying weird stuff like you're well-preserved.
00:36:37And then, you know, big mistake giving her my number.
00:36:41She would phone me at night.
00:36:43After 12 o'clock, I get up at 6 o'clock to go to work.
00:36:47And I'd be telling her, why are you calling me this late?
00:36:49I have to work.
00:36:50She'd always be whispering on the phone, come over, I want to see you.
00:36:55I go, why are you whispering?
00:36:56She goes, they're always listening.
00:36:58And I go, look, I'm not coming to see you.
00:37:01I have a girlfriend.
00:37:02I really need to see you.
00:37:04And I just say, no.
00:37:06And then we had that encounter at her girlfriend's condo.
00:37:10Because she kept calling me, and I said, no, no, no.
00:37:13Every time, she called me after work.
00:37:15Not at midnight.
00:37:16After work, around 5 o'clock.
00:37:18And that's when I went and saw her.
00:37:20And then all that strangeness with the eating the fly and shape-shifting her eyes.
00:37:27The demonic voice coming out of her.
00:37:29I mean, they were playing me again.
00:37:32Years later, 14 years later, they were still trying to get me.
00:37:37Emile, as well as Karen, Al, and Angela, have been brave and courageous enough to come on the record in our abduction film.
00:37:46This segment will uncover what happened to Emile when he was abducted and implanted when he was only 5 years of age.
00:37:53I first met Emile years ago when I was working with the late Richard Shaw in our Watchers series.
00:37:58The story goes something like this.
00:38:00Rick had just moved into a beautiful condo.
00:38:04And Emile was there to check the smoke alarms.
00:38:08Emile's a former basketball player.
00:38:10He's almost 7 feet tall.
00:38:12So he could reach up with one hand and unscrew the smoke alarms and make sure that they were okay.
00:38:17And Rick was working on one of our shows on UFOs.
00:38:21And Emile says, what are you working on?
00:38:24And Rick goes, I'm working on a show about UFOs.
00:38:27Emile immediately says, well, I have an implant out of the blue.
00:38:32So Rick knew what implants were.
00:38:34Rick and I had been with Dr. Roger Lear in all of our Watchers series.
00:38:38And Emile was willing to go through the protocol set up by the late Dr. Roger.
00:38:44The first step, of course, was to get an x-ray to see if, in fact, there was something there.
00:38:49If there was a metallic object.
00:38:51In short, an implant.
00:38:52Sure enough, we found it very quickly.
00:38:55Dr. Lear also had other tests to determine the validity of the implant.
00:38:59And we followed them to a T.
00:39:02Emile had a CAT scan.
00:39:04As well as other tests culminating in meeting with Dr. Matriciana, the surgeon,
00:39:09who would perform the removal of what we believe to be the genuine article, an implant.
00:39:15Here's what we discovered.
00:39:17There was no entrance wound at the site.
00:39:20We took a stud finder and placed it over the implant and the needle went berserk.
00:39:25It also gave off radio frequencies.
00:39:28The Gauss meter told us that something out of the ordinary was in Emile's knee.
00:39:33When we were in Dr. Matriciana's office for the pre-op examination, Dr. Matriciana found the implant very quickly.
00:39:40However, two weeks later, when it came time to remove the implant, Dr. Matriciana was unable to locate it.
00:39:48Here's a clip from the Watchers film where I explain the high strangeness that occurred in that operating theater so long ago.
00:39:56The same ultrasound machine that we're using, the same procedure, same frequency, and we can't find the object.
00:40:06So it ran it?
00:40:07No, we don't.
00:40:08No, that's way too premature.
00:40:09I have no idea.
00:40:10But he can't go in and operate unless he knows where it is.
00:40:15This might sound a little weird, but I'm going to pray and I'm going to do it now, which went something like this.
00:40:20Father, if there are forces which are cloaking this object, I pray that you would break that and do it soon.
00:40:27About two minutes go by and all of a sudden there's the object showing up on the ultrasound.
00:40:35Oh, there's a big shadow from something.
00:40:38What the heck is that?
00:40:40You know, where did the thing come from?
00:40:45Yeah, that's a good-sized shadow.
00:40:48The moment wasn't lost on anyone in the room.
00:40:50It's kind of in the area too.
00:40:52I'll make sure I can get it every time.
00:40:55Yeah, there it is.
00:40:59We eventually were able to remove the implant.
00:41:03We then took it to Seal Lab and examined it under a standing electron microscope.
00:41:08Here's a clip from our Watcher series of what took place at Seal Lab.
00:41:16Roger, how does this compare so far with the other ones that you've taken out?
00:41:21This is number 17, so you've got quite a collection, 16.
00:41:25And you're really the only person on the planet that has done this research and actually spent your own time, your money, your expertise, and here you are at number 17.
00:41:35How do you compare this number 17 to, let's say, some of the earlier ones?
00:41:41It's a never-ending education process because whenever you think you may have an answer, you really wind up with more questions.
00:41:55But comparatively speaking, when you find things from different individuals that you've surgically removed that fill certain criteria and that criteria is met over and over and over and over again, then you've got to believe at least that there's some similarity in the objects.
00:42:17With that in mind, here are Emil's closing thoughts.
00:42:24You know, I just really didn't put a lot of time and thought into any of this.
00:42:29I'm hoping for disclosure or I'd really like to get my old sample back from a gentleman named Steve that used to work for Dr. Lehrer so we can do more tests on it and really try to explain what happened to me.
00:42:46But for some reason we can't get our hands on that.
00:42:50Steve has possession of it.
00:42:52I'd just like to look into this more deeply because when this all started, we're in the midst of shooting, I think it was Watchers 7 and 8 and the beginning of Patient 17 and Dr. Lehrer passed away.
00:43:08So everything kind of, the team broke up and nothing ever happened.
00:43:13So I kind of felt not abandoned on a personal note, but everybody had their own lives.
00:43:18But Dr. Lehrer was the glue that held everybody together that was on the investigation team.
00:43:24When he passed, here you are, you haven't thought about your implant or alien abductions.
00:43:32And then you meet Richard Shaw, Dr. Lehrer, these gentlemen, and all of a sudden you start thinking about it and then it stops.
00:43:42And you're standing there by yourself going, well, what happened here?
00:43:47I've tried to reach out to different people in the UFU community and they never returned my calls.
00:43:53They've just done their own thing, opportunist.
00:43:57I don't know who of all these people saw at Incon.
00:44:00But I've reached out to a few of them and said, hey, Dr. Lehrer passed away.
00:44:04I'd like to know more about my case.
00:44:06And, you know, unless I have another implant or something they can make a story on, I guess they're not going to return my calls.
00:44:15You know, you'd think they would, but they don't.
00:44:18Those are kind of my closing thoughts, LA.
00:44:23I just don't really have much to say about it.
00:44:26I just, I'd really like to get more involved, but there's just, it's not my world.
00:44:34Let me ask you this.
00:44:35People are being abducted, and we touched on it, sperm from the men, over from the men.
00:44:39There seems to be a breeding program that is coming on.
00:44:44Have you ever met another hybrid other than this woman Diane?
00:44:45Why?
00:44:46Did you never come down that?
00:44:47Did you meet another hybrid?
00:44:49Or do you like that?
00:44:50Have you met another hybrid other than this woman Diane?
00:45:06program that is coming on have you ever met another hybrid other than this woman
00:45:12Diane had you what I can tell you that was going on during when I was working
00:45:20at the Vancouver UFO meetup group which is pretty large other abductees were
00:45:25coming in there there was a lady that was a nurse that had 27 year olds they
00:45:30were taking her kids the kids were saying we learn more on the ship when
00:45:34that lady was mentioning this stuff to me at the meetup group I go they're
00:45:38probably listening to us right now she didn't show up for the next meeting she
00:45:42showed up two weeks after and we were concerned about her but she did show up
00:45:46and she said to me I can't come here anymore Al my children told me once they
00:45:51were abducted again that the aliens told them quit going to the meetup group and I
00:45:57said to her I go remember what I said she goes yeah they're probably listening they
00:46:03were I've met other people at the meetup group after I told them about that
00:46:08hybrid encounter the gentleman's name was we'll just say Doug I mentioned my
00:46:14encounter with that hybrid woman and what happened two weeks later after I told him
00:46:19that story he's driving a bus he hears a voice like somebody's right behind him
00:46:24whispering does this bus go to Horseshoe Bay and he's like he turned around he
00:46:29goes no and there's no one there he looks in the rear looks in the mirror the big
00:46:34mirror on the bus right up by his steering wheel just and he looks up and he
00:46:39sees two young girls sitting in the seat side by each just staring at him and
00:46:46telepathically talking to him so what what are those I mean and then he looked
00:46:53again he's driving the bus he's freaked out he looks again he hadn't stopped the bus for
00:46:58people to get off and they were vanished just gone they were gone they were gone
00:47:03were they were they children or were they adults he would say they were like
00:47:07teenagers probably you know 18 20 two of them sounds like a black-eyed kid it could
00:47:14be it could be he was so freaked out he's concentrating he's driving a bus full of
00:47:19people he said the bus was not packed there was no place for them to hide how
00:47:24could they appear and disappear without other people knowing supernatural they
00:47:28can do that what do you think the end game is here with these entities I mean
00:47:35obviously there's some it appears to be some sort of a breeding program that is
00:47:40ongoing you know you talked about wetting your pants twice and both times you knew you
00:47:46had been violated sexually definitely remember talking to Robert Salas in our in
00:47:51our watches series where he's he would do he does remember being taken floating up the
00:47:57window he's on he's on the table with this very large needle is inserted into his
00:48:02manner yeah in our watches series is the aftermath like burning sensation when you
00:48:10urinate did you ever have any oh other effects you know physically like that
00:48:16totally even when I was a child when we first saw those ships out on the hockey
00:48:22rink that was 1972 I find out later from my sister and I mean later 45 years later
00:48:29she goes oh I watched that video that was interesting but those weren't the ships
00:48:34that we saw and I go what do you mean we she goes they taught you how to skate two
00:48:39years earlier you were 11 years old and she goes there were three black small
00:48:45triangles hovering over that same those so the same smokestacks at that pollution
00:48:50plant and she goes they were not dish shaped and she goes you looked at them
00:48:55like you had seen them before and you were so scared I didn't bring it up again I
00:48:59didn't want to traumatize you anymore by talking about it and she goes I can't
00:49:03believe you didn't remember that so what's that tell you how long were they
00:49:09taking me how long I don't know with Diane you know she was wearing those
00:49:15wraparound goggles and she appeared I mean in that interview you said very
00:49:19attractive lady beautiful yeah those are your words mm-hmm you didn't suspect she
00:49:25was a hybrid until the glasses came off and she sits on your lap and and I call
00:49:30this I remember calling you you know calling you out on this right this is
00:49:35normal behavior for you no it's not so there's a phrase I coined a while back
00:49:40UFO brain thought mm-hmm it's a fair statement that when you were with her
00:49:43you're not really thinking clearly describe that for us please something
00:49:48obviously happened where she still had those shades on and when she when that
00:49:55fly flew in that glass I just pointed it out I felt totally normal I mean they had
00:50:01been drinking I had just finished work they asked me do you want to drink I
00:50:05said no Diane actually had a few in there believe me you could tell but when that
00:50:10fly went in the glass and she stuck her finger in it the fly didn't move and she
00:50:14ate it you know anybody that would see that would have the same opinion why would
00:50:19you do that that's disgusting but I just said you know are you hungry or
00:50:24something why would you do that that's when things changed and she got on top of me
00:50:29while I'm sitting on the chair and lifting up my shirt and she took off the
00:50:33glasses I think this was all planned by her all of it to get my attention and see
00:50:40how my reaction was and my reaction obviously was to push her away with
00:50:44those glasses off and I'd say when I pushed her back her face was maybe two
00:50:50feet away from me and her eyes totally shape-shifted and when you look into
00:50:55those eyes all it was just fearful just absolutely pure pure evil and when I
00:51:02tossed her off me right after that I made sure she didn't hit her head and I held
00:51:07her arm and then she had that demonic voice come out of her which I have heard
00:51:10before in people that have been possessed in my house after meeting her the house
00:51:17being haunted you were hearing that same type of voice so totally demonic not
00:51:23space brothers evil what would you say to someone who has been taken numerous times from like
00:51:35you from a childhood but they are they decided I'm not gonna mention any names
00:51:40right but they sided with them I call it the Stockholm syndrome so now they are aiding and
00:51:46abetting in abductions they're hoping the grays abduct other people oh totally
00:51:52but they try to calm people down when they come on the ship I also wonder about the fact
00:51:58that you were switched off you know you're you're a healthy guy you're a big guy yeah
00:52:02fairly healthy try to fight them off that you remember no I mean when they when they can control you
00:52:10there's nothing you can do there is literally nothing you can do and the old saying is they
00:52:18always seem to get you when you're not expecting it so I'm driving home you know had a good day at
00:52:24work I'm gonna have a barbecue my girlfriend was supposed to show up with her friend and I just took
00:52:30off on them that's another thing I didn't say we're all at the pub I go yeah I'll meet you outside we're
00:52:35all off they're just cashing out and I just took off on them these entities did not want anybody
00:52:41else in the car they just wanted me and I had to try and explain to them the next day oh why did
00:52:48you just take off on us that's not like you oh I was mind-controlled and got abducted I'm sorry I mean
00:52:54yeah what are you supposed to say this is how evil and planned out this stuff is with these things
00:52:59what would you say to people who hear stories like this and find them you know basically unbelievable
00:53:10what's what what's your you know a lot of things we do now we're unbelievable to our parents or our
00:53:18grandparents you think about technology you think about the world where the world is a lot of people
00:53:24block out the bad parts and the ugly parts of their life and don't remember those things and
00:53:30and that's a way of self-preservation and I get that I blocked a lot of these things out for a long
00:53:36time not everyone has to believe anything that I say I'm not you know I don't have anything to gain by
00:53:45sharing the story what I do have is an opportunity to reach out to the other people that I saw that I
00:53:54was with that experienced these things with me that it's okay if you remember these things to just
00:54:01you're okay you can break free from it there's freedom and and in Jesus there's freedom in the
00:54:10blood of Jesus you know a lot of people are afraid to talk about it they're afraid no one's going to
00:54:16believe them or maybe you know I don't expect anyone to believe me I don't care if anyone believes me or
00:54:22not this is what happened to me but for anyone who is or has experienced this the reason I want to
00:54:30talk about it is because you can stop it you can stop it with your faith in God with your belief with
00:54:42the blood of Jesus because he came not only to forgive us for sins but to save us to save us from
00:54:49the evils in this world and things can still get to us but we do we do have a way to salvation and to
00:54:58peace and to freedom from things like this because they're out there I've seen way too many of them
00:55:06they're out there but you don't have to let them hurt you I don't have to let them hurt me anymore
00:55:11they have no power over me anymore they can't hurt me they can't come for me let me let me ask you this
00:55:18who do you think is behind this what do you think you it is the most who are they they're demons they
00:55:28are demonic beyond belief the things that happened to me the way they used me it's dark
00:55:38it's ugly it's demonic it's evil it's not right and if people think these are coming to bring world
00:55:48peace you are very very mistaken not the ones that I encountered that's for sure world peace is not
00:55:56terrorizing little children and abusing and doing those things to people that's that's not right that's
00:56:04not good Karen any closing thoughts
00:56:10I feel for anyone else who's gone through something like this because it's traumatic
00:56:21it's very very difficult to talk about it took me a long time and a lot of prayer to decide
00:56:29to open up about this um find someone you trust talk to someone you trust find Jesus
00:56:39and find your salvation because that's where your peace will be that's really all I can say
00:56:59so I'm here with three out of the four of the people that we've interviewed uh for the show
00:57:25um and well you know we're all kind of smiley and it's nice to meet each other it's also a very serious
00:57:36conversation which we're all about to embark on and um you know having never done this type of a thing
00:57:44even before with with this type of um possible emotional reaction I'm not even sure where to begin
00:57:53but I'm just gonna you know you guys have all met um the only person we're missing is Emil
00:57:59I'm not sure what what happened with that but um let me just start by asking a couple of questions here
00:58:07what was your you guys have all seen the film at least what we what we call a rough cut
00:58:14what and I'll just go from person to person I'll do the ladies first and then I'll laugh
00:58:19Angela what were your thoughts when when you watched the rough cut
00:58:23oh my gosh I just I've cried it's like going through it again going through the going through
00:58:30the things that we went through it's just like it's just like going through it again seeing it again
00:58:35so I just sat down crying um I was blown away by your story Karen I uh I can't even imagine what
00:58:44you've been through I totally believe you I don't think anything crazy about you I totally believe
00:58:50your story and it's it's such a comfort to be able to tell the truth to be honest and not be just
00:58:58and to know that that that you guys have experienced it too you know it's it's amazing it's a blessing
00:59:04Karen Karen your thoughts it was amazing that I see I thought it was just very well done and
00:59:13excellent at this point it didn't feel like a rough cut it felt very close to my own
00:59:17yeah it was it was heart-wrenching and beautiful and incredible all at once
00:59:27yes and one cl- one one step closer to the truth yes absolutely
00:59:32Al your thoughts these things are pure evil and history is actually repeating itself
00:59:39from back in the day when there were giants now it's hybrids and as some people well know
00:59:46from your documentaries I met a hybrid woman uh in the flesh and I mean that's what they're doing
00:59:53and they're not space brothers all three of you are basically saying the same thing that these are
00:59:58not our so-called space brothers that there's a very dark nefarious agenda that's coupled with us
01:00:06Karen your thoughts yes I agree this is these are not lovely benevolent beings coming to help us
01:00:17save the world they are coming for their own very specific purposes and they don't care how I feel
01:00:24about what they did to me they just had agenda and it wasn't good and they weren't kind and they weren't
01:00:30loving and they weren't any of that they were they took things from me that everyone should have taken
01:00:36from them and they take the most personal part of you they try to take them and it's
01:00:41it's very hard to work through what happens to you but by god's grace somehow we'll get to go on
01:00:52it was terrifying what happened to me I was so terrified I've never been that scared in my life
01:01:03I have no idea what they did to me I wish I could remember I wish I could remember you know I mean
01:01:09I don't know if god's protected me by not allowing me to remember I wish I could remember more but I
01:01:17was terrified and they they're emotionless it's like they have no emotion at all that there's no
01:01:22care they're very direct I said why are you here they said we're here for you there's no love
01:01:28there's no emotion they they just have an agenda and whatever they're doing it's and they just take
01:01:36complete control of you you can't do anything there is physical evidence Karen all this question is to
01:01:42you and then Angela you can follow up on it and now you can you can talk about it also and and you'll
01:01:49see how it ties in with your relationship with Diane Kelly but with Karen when they you know you went to
01:01:57a doctor you knew that you were you were pregnant and this is classic I actually wrote about this
01:02:02in in the in the very first novel Nephilim which was published in 1999 how they come usually at the
01:02:10at the end of the third month the first trimester so it's 10 to 12 weeks right around in there
01:02:15they come they re-abduct the woman and they take the baby and that's exactly what happened to you
01:02:22and you talk about it because in the film you say you know I was pregnant you know the doctor saw this
01:02:29here it is and then you go no ultrasound no no fetal tissue no nothing so I mean that's that's got to
01:02:37be not only unnerving but it's like you know as a mother as a woman that you were pregnant something
01:02:45happened your thoughts yes it's heart-wrenching because when you find out you're pregnant and I
01:02:54didn't have any children yet I was so excited I already bonded with that baby I wanted that baby I was
01:03:02I did not expect to get pregnant it was a surprise to me um and um I was but I was married at the time
01:03:11I was so thrilled and to go in there and for them I wanted to know what happened why did I lose the baby
01:03:23was it a boy or a girl I wanted to grieve that loss because it was such a huge loss and I felt like I
01:03:29couldn't even grieve the loss because they're they're they're looking at me like you're there's nothing there
01:03:34what's wrong with you and and I was pregnant I went to the doctor I was you know and there was
01:03:41another time like that too where they went all the way up and checked in my fallopian tubes because they
01:03:46couldn't find it and they thought maybe I had a tubal pregnancy because I was still testing positive
01:03:52in the emergency room wow and I just never got that closure you know I never got to
01:03:58mourn that loss the way I wanted to um it's heart-wrenching I love my children
01:04:10that sounds so familiar you know it sounds so familiar that what she went through LA it sounds
01:04:16like almost exactly the same as what I went through I I didn't talk about it on the video that you found
01:04:22oh maybe I did I don't remember yeah I think we did but it wasn't on the rough cut but um
01:04:26yeah I was pregnant I knew I was pregnant I went to have a test done they told me I was pregnant and
01:04:32then uh three months later to the day uh started having a little bit of complications with the doctor
01:04:40and they said uh there's nothing in your womb there's no baby there but I was pregnant and so they had to
01:04:48do they did the dnc and all that but it it was just so strange and like like Karen I mean I I didn't
01:04:55get to grieve anything it happened so fast and I had lost a baby before that so I was excited too
01:05:01I thought okay I got it this time you know like this is gonna work out and then you know had a
01:05:07miscarriage at least I thought it was but there was no that when they when they looked at the womb
01:05:12there was nothing there it was dark so I don't have memories of it though I hope one day maybe talking to
01:05:20you guys and sharing stories that I'll be able to remember things or more things um I'm so sorry
01:05:29that happened to you Karen oh I'm so sorry I can't imagine the things you went through um Angela you
01:05:35can because it sounds like you went through them too and I am so sorry I just don't remember what you
01:05:40went through yeah I mean I I don't remember them taking the baby no but it went somewhere they went
01:05:46somewhere or more than one but it's it is it's heart-wrenching I feel for you I just I feel your
01:05:53pain when you talk about it it's as a mother it's just I'm here I feel you're just stating makes me
01:05:59want to cry I just I know I'm trying not to really hard I'm sorry Emilia you've never until the until
01:06:06you saw the rough cut you never met Karen or Al there's no collusion there is that a fair statement
01:06:12yes I want to get that on the record so the next question I'm going to ask you guys
01:06:20all of you say exactly the same thing that you were somehow switched off Emil you talk about it Al
01:06:26talks about all of you talk about it that you know they take you you know Angela's the same thing Karen
01:06:32same thing and and it's a blank they they you're switched off you don't remember and that's the end
01:06:37Emil tell tell us what that's like um you know you you you have the sensation of of you know you
01:06:45talk about going up to the ceiling or whatever you and then you hours later you find yourself outside
01:06:50the room you read what's that like when they just they switch it off how does that work well I don't
01:06:57know how it works probably some kind of electronic or mental anesthesia or something but um you know it
01:07:03happened so often when I was a kid it wasn't we didn't think anything about it really they just
01:07:09thought it was sleepwalking or the nightmares didn't really think too much about it until I was my older
01:07:18days you know teenager plus I just didn't it was just everyday life kind of you know it's just
01:07:25nobody knew about ETs or or anything back when I was a kid I mean um you know you're all alone
01:07:35you're all you who do where do you go with your bed you know I remember that sensation a few times
01:07:41growing up really fast you know through the ceiling through you know up to wherever um looking you know
01:07:48looking over through to uh a window and seeing somebody looking in and close the door opening
01:07:55somebody I understand I I didn't have the ordeal maybe I think it's Karen uh had but they definitely
01:08:03were using me for something I mean Dr. I was riding with Dr. Lear in the car one time I said what what
01:08:11do these guys want from me it's like you're smart email exactly that's the deal Angela let's go to you
01:08:18because you talk about in the film it's like all of a sudden you know you're you're on your face
01:08:23sleep paralysis next thing you know you're on the other side of the ship and you know we we regressed
01:08:28you um and we got some new information but but it's like you don't remember the whole thing tell us
01:08:35what that's like please um it's it's so it's so scary I mean like that's to start off it's terrifying
01:08:45you have no control over anything I asked them quick I just said why are you here and they said
01:08:52we're here for you and I started screaming with all I had in me and I was screaming for my husband
01:08:59that was in the bed at the time and he never moved he could not hear and I probably got it out of my
01:09:04mouth twice before and I always say it's like the ride at the fair that spins around and plasters you to
01:09:11the wall that's what happened to me they pulled me to the floor I couldn't even lift up my head I
01:09:16couldn't all I could do is look out of the corner of my eye for like a split second and then I was out
01:09:22and the next thing I know I know I saw the bottom of the ship I know I was in front of the ship
01:09:28uh the only way I could have seen that is if they took me out of my bedroom I was in my bedroom
01:09:35so they had to have took me out of the window they had to have took me through the wall or through the
01:09:40floor or I doubt they walked me out my front door you know what I'm saying so uh never works that way
01:09:48it was it was so scary though LA I was so scared and I was helpless there was no help no one could hear me
01:09:56it's like they stopped time in itself to show up at my house at that moment
01:10:01all right why doesn't the neighbors know why didn't the neighbors hear it because there was
01:10:07a vibration coming off the ship it was a loud vibration that was penetrating the very air
01:10:13you could feel it in your body
01:10:19when you said that that you can feel it in your body um Angela reminded me yeah you get that feeling
01:10:26especially when you're going like up through a window or a ceiling you feel like you're
01:10:31whole body is just vibrating it's hard to describe it's just such a weird
01:10:38terrifying feeling and the sounds I was I was saying something to my husband the other day I
01:10:43said you know I heard this sound on tv and it's like this really low sound that goes
01:10:49like that whenever I hear it I just jump a little panic that's exactly what it sounded like to me yes
01:10:54and that that hump and the but you know what's terrifying to me than that is silence when I don't hear
01:11:01anything that terrifies me more than anything else I need to hear something in the background like
01:11:08but that's so wild to hear that because I've never heard anyone else explain that before
01:11:13yeah well when I was lowered and woke up in a beam of light a white
01:11:21white beam of light and it made that humming sound too and it made me vibrate to the point
01:11:28where I thought I was gonna have a heart attack and it was just it was nuts just to think all of
01:11:34a sudden you're in your car you look down the side of the car and look down and you see the tree tops
01:11:41as I said to LA it's like driving your car off the 50th story of an apartment building
01:11:47at midnight you see the top of the trees you're in this the whitest brightest white light and you felt
01:11:56the energy in this beam of light it was absolutely nuts yeah I'm surprised I'm still here
01:12:02I really am I think we all are out to some degree
01:12:18the title of this film is the coming ufo invasion exposing the dark secrets of the dragon you may be
01:12:25asking what are these dark secrets we know from a guy book of a supernatural or what most of you know
01:12:30is the bible that in genesis 3 15 it says very specifically that the seed of the dragon the
01:12:37offspring of the dragon will be at war at enmity with the offspring of the seed of the woman the
01:12:44messiah the one coming from the world would crush the dragon's head and I wanted to thank Gary Stearman
01:12:50for expounding on that years ago at a conference which changed my life that sets up the rest of the
01:12:56biblical prophetic narrative a few chapters later in genesis 6 we see that seat of the dragon manifest
01:13:04in the Nephilim the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterwards
01:13:09Jesus warns us it would be like the days of Noah and what differentiates the days of Noah from any
01:13:16other time in history is the presence of the Nephilim on the earth it will be like the days of Noah
01:13:22years ago I sat down with Chuck Messler and I said Chuck what do you think about these abductions
01:13:28these so-called hybrids that people are reporting and this is years ago and Chuck without a moment's
01:13:35hesitation said this and I quote Satan is outnumbered two to one he's building an army you heard from four
01:13:42people all of them have been taken against their will sperm taken from the men over from the women the
01:13:50women were impregnated they come and they take the child years later Karen saw three hybrids come
01:13:57into her room they were in fact her children they had been taken from her but as Karen says they were
01:14:03soulless irredeemable we are in the days of Noah so here's the springboard Genesis 3 15 and you go to
01:14:11Genesis 6 where the Nephilim were on the earth fast forward to Matthew 24 where Jesus warns us it will be
01:14:17like the days of Noah and then go back to the book of Daniel where it says their seed will mingle with
01:14:24the seed of men but they will not cleave to them who are they obviously it's not a human being folks i
01:14:32realize for some of you this is a huge stretch and i believe that with the help of the spirit of a living
01:14:38god we've uncovered the end game the dark secret agenda of the dragon hybrids are walking amongst us
01:14:47as dr david jacobs book states they are here we've had reports of them something is going on it is in
01:14:55fact a sea war and it's dark and nefarious and it's so well protected that not too many people know about
01:15:03it and as you heard in the film from the four people who can you go to who would believe you
01:15:09who can you possibly tell about going through walls or ceilings or windows that are closed
01:15:16it is a future physics these entities can manipulate space time matter and energy in ways that defy what
01:15:23we know it's real the good news is this there is one who is greater than the dragon
01:15:30i believe he's going to return soon with the armies of heaven and that's going to change everything
01:15:37for some of you you grapple with this and you wonder how can all this come to pass the signs are all
01:15:42here wars and rumors of wars famines pestilence earthquakes in diverse places and troublesome times
01:15:49lawlessness abounds good is called evil evil is called good he's coming back and we think it's
01:15:56so thanks so much for watching i'm ellie marzulli
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