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00:02:15authors of these things are interdimensional beings which have been
00:02:18visiting us for thousands and thousands of years. I find it interesting that
00:02:24whoever is doing it, many crop circles are found next to megalithic ancient
00:02:29sites like we see all over England. Journey with us as we discuss the
00:02:34mysterious crop circle phenomenon.
00:02:45We just flew the drone up about 500 feet over that incredible crop circle. We don't
00:03:12know whether it's real or fake. We're not in it. It's hard to tell. What are your
00:03:18thoughts? That's my first crop circle I've ever seen.
00:03:20Exactly. My first time as well. It's down there. We cannot go there. It's private
00:03:26property. It's difficult to go there but it feels amazing. I mean being here
00:03:31whether it's AT natural or man-made it's not just amazing to see what what I find
00:03:40interesting is that we are very close this we're very close to the Salisbury
00:03:44Plain here very close to Stonehenge and in these fields of weed and rapeseed and
00:03:49other crops year after year after year these very enigmatic crop circles appear
00:03:54and I think there's a connection between what happened thousands of years ago with
00:03:59these megalithic sites and the UFO phenomena today.
00:04:03Exactly why not maybe this is maybe the UFO phenomena which can be composed by
00:04:08several different phenomena may be attracted to these sites different energies
00:04:13telluric energies coming from Earth and that's maybe the result of this kind of
00:04:18script scripted messages that we don't understand that may be a reflection and
00:04:25according to what we read about this particular crop circle some said it showed
00:04:30that it appears on the night of the 4th of July okay what's the night also it there
00:04:36was this this eclipse in the northern atmosphere so we can see that maybe the
00:04:42Earth Moon and the Sun in this represented in this crop circle very very
00:04:48interesting you know Francisco it's something is going on I mean there's a in
00:04:53my opinion there's a hidden world that's that's veiled that we don't see and yet
00:04:58we we see vestiges of it in Stonehenge in places like Menga in places in
00:05:03Portugal like Zambujero and in crop circles like this I'm kind of looking for a
00:05:08unified theory that ties everything together whether or not I'll ever achieve
00:05:12it or not I don't know but many sightings UFO sightings are around here speak to that
00:05:19well yeah not only UFO sightings but orbs sightings many of these balls of
00:05:26light orbs that are mainly seen above the fields and then moments later crop
00:05:35circle is observed we don't know it can it can be really all related we don't we
00:05:42don't exactly
00:05:49so we are here at a museum which is dedicated to crop circles and we just
00:06:02came from the area of Silbury Hill the the Long Barrows and what I find
00:06:08incredibly interesting here is we've got crop circles crop circles is not a new
00:06:13phenomena and yet what we see happening here is something that's manifesting in
00:06:19modernity which links back to the ancient past and frankly I think there's a
00:06:24definite connection between what Silbury Hill let's say and modern-day crop
00:06:29circles your thoughts yeah well this is this area around here there's been crop
00:06:33circles reported for potentially hundreds of years sure we know farmers back in the
00:06:371940s who are talking about strange formations in their fields and they always
00:06:42seem to be connected either with earthworks mounds or megalithic sites
00:06:46specifically in this Wessex area pretty much between Stonehenge and Avery this
00:06:52whole area is like the hub of it and if you look into it you'll see that it's you
00:06:56know certainly genuine phenomenon there's a prehistory it goes back to the
00:07:00mowing devil of 1600s I use them on my books yeah and so we know that there's a
00:07:06genuine thing and I've looked through all the historical records there's been people
00:07:09written about it so you know some are man-made now we do know that sure a lot
00:07:14of hoaxes yeah but many of them I believe are still genuine and it's a
00:07:18phenomenon that's being kind of ridiculed really needs to be addressed and have a
00:07:23proper look at from a scientific perspective what amazes me about these
00:07:27is when you're down in the field and this is what's incredible about the great
00:07:29serpent mound in the Americas but but even here the only way you can really
00:07:34appreciate this is from the air so it gets into the whole idea of ufology of
00:07:40disc shaped objects in the sky of lights in the sky all sorts of theories what are
00:07:45your thoughts regarding how this connects with the modern-day UFO phenomenon yeah I
00:07:50mean a lot of balls of light have witnessed forming them moving around this whole
00:07:54video could be done about this right collecting the different film footage and
00:07:59all these sites are UFO hotspots as well and so there's certainly reality to that
00:08:04that there's something else involved and I mean I'm gonna take a step forward
00:08:09here and I just might be out of your comfort zone a little bit but you know
00:08:12again from the biblical prophetic narrative it talks about the prince of the
00:08:15power of the air and I find it just incredibly interesting that these sites
00:08:19which are charged sites we know that they were charged in the past and some of
00:08:24them I think are still active and the only way you can see this is from the air and
00:08:29whoever is doing it does so with 100% impunity no one's running around you
00:08:36know the constable isn't there going you're under arrest it's that that's not
00:08:39happening they move with 100% impunity what are your thoughts yeah no I know you
00:08:43mean yeah they just they just kind of turn up everywhere they just do it where
00:08:47they want as far as I think as far as the the original crop circle makers are
00:08:52thinking is that you know as far as they're concerned the fields are their canvas
00:08:56yeah they're gonna create their messages and that's what they're doing the art
00:09:00within the fields let's move into the museum we just want to thank the curator
00:09:04for allowing us to film here okay great it's just incredible thank you so much
00:09:10really appreciate thank you so much
00:09:11we're in this incredible place I've never seen anything quite like it where we've
00:09:20got crop circles all around us and these are real and I want to start basically
00:09:26with you because this is what got you into the whole mega list just get tell us a
00:09:31thumbnail sketch of what got you into this well yeah it was the crop circles
00:09:35that drew me in to the ancient sacred landscape especially with Wiltshire
00:09:40because I mean my friends we were kind of obsessive kind of alien freaks UFOs all
00:09:45this kind of stuff we were into the unexplained magazine that was around in
00:09:48England I remember that yeah we used to love it and and so we thought well I'm gonna
00:09:53take a trip down to Wiltshire and kind of look at these crop circles we went to a
00:09:56conference just down the road in the Alton Barnes we went up in helicopter we
00:10:01were just like I was just blown away by then that drew me and come back every
00:10:05year and I realized actually it was the earth energies the sort of ley lines
00:10:10mystical geometry and all this kind of subjects were kind of drawing me I started
00:10:15studying the stone circles which are right near them hang on so these have also
00:10:18got the geometry these are also on the ley lines and that kind of drew me into the
00:10:22megalithic landscape and that's why I officially became a megalithomaniac and
00:10:26like that kind of took over my life but even today I'm fascinated by them and we
00:10:32do know obviously many are man-made nowadays but there's a prehistory of
00:10:36these circles which go way back and potentially to the time these megalithic
00:10:41sites were being built you know they could have been it could have been built on
00:10:44the spot where a crop circle is formed you know there is these kind of theories
00:10:48that are going around so so I have respect for these circles you know it's
00:10:51difficult to know whether they're man-made or not nowadays because they're so
00:10:55well done by these teams and nowadays they're not so good the teams are kind
00:10:59of they're not very good at what they do you can kind of tell a few years ago
00:11:04though they were really good I think the one one and correct me if I'm wrong here is
00:11:08when the crop is laid down and weaved together like that you really can't do
00:11:11that with a bunch of stock stompers and stuff yeah it's got you've got a layer in
00:11:16like a basket okay you know can create in such a Francisco your head of extra
00:11:20politics Portugal well you're the co-founder of that and and you've been
00:11:25looking at crop circles like like I have like you has for for a long time what
00:11:30are your thoughts when you come into an environment like this it's absolutely
00:11:35amazing to see this so much effort and dedication to build something like this
00:11:41and have here the reports and the catalogs of several several dozens of crop
00:11:50circles that we it's really difficult to say but the complexity of some of these
00:11:55crops are absolutely amazing and to think that someone during a night was able to
00:12:02do creations like this is absolutely amazing and knowing that centuries before
00:12:10there were there were already manifestations of these circles that
00:12:14were that would interest the local people I mean it's it means something
00:12:19whether is it really some manifestation of the the energy the local energy of the
00:12:25the ground with the stones where there is this kind of orbs or or UFOs that are
00:12:32related to this we don't know but it's some kind of message and it's
00:12:37absolutely you live right next to Stonehenge have you seen UFO activity over
00:12:44the site and not directly over Stonehenge although someone I know had a
00:12:48strange experience with light phenomena and around the stones and I've seen
00:12:53them over near Glastonbury I've seen them in other places in America as well so
00:12:57you know I've seen stuff I can't explain right and with I've seen lots of film
00:13:02footage of balls of light not only creating crop circles like the all of this
00:13:07castle formation in 1996 which some people claim is a hoax right I think I
00:13:12think that might be real but other balls of light being witnessed moving across
00:13:16filmed photographed and so on so I think there's something you know to be said
00:13:20about that they're almost like intelligent spheres of light which may be an ancient
00:13:24times we were called elementals or fairies sprites you know but today we call
00:13:29them UFOs or energy lights or something like this and so you know so that side of
00:13:35things I'm very intrigued by ancient cultures and I know Native Americans
00:13:40for instance talk about the sky gods coming down and parting knowledge there
00:13:44was a an interview we did with Robert Mirabal who basically heard the story
00:13:50from his grandfather that mirrored the Genesis 6 account when I first heard about
00:13:54fall on my chair and he says a long time ago they say they came from the sky they
00:13:59saw the daughters of men and a long time ago they say they were giants that roamed the
00:14:06land they came from the sky fell in love with the sons and daughters of the earth they
00:14:14had the ability to reach your mind and foresee the future do you equate the giants that are
00:14:21in the Americas back to the biblical Nephilim I believe so because of the the oral account of the star
00:14:28people that we have coming and taking our women and the result which mirrors the
00:14:33Genesis 6 which is Genesis 6 the the result being these race of giants that
00:14:37covered the earth I absolutely believe that I believe the Genesis account is
00:14:41true not just because it's a biblical account but also you find this account
00:14:46with tribes all over the world every place I've been it's the same thing all the
00:14:50tribes I've been to and talked to they all have this oral tradition of these red
00:14:54air cannibalistic giants which ate their people which is why they finally made
00:14:59war against them and clear the land of them right how far back do you think this
00:15:03goes thousands and thousands of summers you know thousands of years and and
00:15:09interestingly enough you know talking about the biblical account in our oral
00:15:13tradition as well it says that the way that these giants were wiped off the face of
00:15:17the earth was that creator became so angry you know with what they were doing that he
00:15:21sent the great waters to cover the earth and that's what wiped them out and this
00:15:25of course ties right into the whole flood of Noah right that pretty much all
00:15:28cultures all over the globe talk about right chief Joseph thank you so much for
00:15:33coming on the record really appreciate it thank you and this this is a
00:15:37Nephilim I mean this is what they're doing so we know what the sky gods are there I'm
00:15:41just wondering whether sites like Silbury Hill mimic in some way the Tower of
00:15:45Babel I mean that might be a stretch but it's a high place they're making this thing
00:15:49it's a flat top something ceremonial surely happened there millennia ago your
00:15:55thoughts yeah with Silbury Hill we do find that if you are approaching it from
00:16:00different parts of the landscape you actually have optical illusions if you're
00:16:05going up and down depending on where you are but from Silbury Hill you can see
00:16:09everything you see the whole Avery complex we're really we're not allowed up
00:16:13there right you're not that up there but even today there's trees in the way and
00:16:17things like this so you see certain parts of it and then you know to see
00:16:21everything you have to have a platform built on there there may have been a
00:16:24structure there may be something up there that would pull down lightning and
00:16:28the weather which would then charge up the water the earth energies and so we
00:16:32think it was like a hub but also we do know that was actually a survey point we
00:16:37think for the whole ancient Britain as well as being a this whole area being a
00:16:42kind of UFO hotspot over the years and so something about these places these high
00:16:46places even in England that they do have relevance you'll find it everywhere
00:16:51across the planet the mountains the high mountains where they build those
00:16:54churches to be closer to into the sky to be a way of communicating or with the
00:17:00heavens or higher being so eventually here the same thing building an artificial
00:17:07mound that could be higher to to have a closer communications I'm right there with you
00:17:14with what amazes me though in a place like silver I mean it's just like
00:17:18Miamisburg we're talking like I'm just gonna guess that's got to be close to
00:17:22400,000 tons of earth that removed and you know it's one thing it to think well if it
00:17:28took two or three hundred years with a bunch of people okay I get that but what if
00:17:32it's 20 years and they don't know I mean they're just surmising it's it's two or
00:17:37three hundred years it's just an inordinate amount of work to do to create this
00:17:42whoever is doing I guess what I'm trying to say is ever doing this is they're
00:17:46really into it I mean they're trying this is they're getting something back
00:17:50from putting this in whether it's not whether it's the sky gods coming down
00:17:54and landing on that platform or whatever I think they're getting something from
00:17:58that the people themselves yeah one of the theories there's two things two
00:18:04points here I want to mention one of them is that there's proof now that people
00:18:08from all over the British Isles would come here and they would place their
00:18:11local piece of earth or grain or something that's actually being found in
00:18:16Silbury Hill and so they think now this was like a national temple people will
00:18:20come down they would help build it and they also found that the building process
00:18:24was layers of organic and non-organic materials various different
00:18:28substances and soils and stones and other such thing and so this makes it like an
00:18:34organ generator so it makes it like an energy system within itself plus you have
00:18:38the great Michael and Mary energy lines coming into the mound and so it could have
00:18:43been built because it was like charging up the landscape potentially for the whole
00:18:47country so there could be some energetic some almost like machine type idea in its
00:18:53construction let me ask you guys this it seems like these mounds these dolmens
00:19:00megalithic structures like Karnak Menga other sites that we've been to there's a period of
00:19:07time which they appear and then it all kind of goes away now in the present day the UFO
00:19:13phenomenon is through the roof I mean a few years ago UFO sightings were at an all-time high
00:19:18some researchers were getting alarmed because there were thousands of them
00:19:21happening in a month and you go back to the era I was born 1950 in the month of December
00:19:25one UFO sighting in America now it's like you know it's through the roof is
00:19:31something happening here I mean are the old let's just use the term are the old
00:19:36sky gods coming back nowadays there are a lot of more folks hoaxes right there are
00:19:44people that use apps with the phones apps that took a picture and then add the UFO
00:19:51and the video etc so the internet cannot be the source of information right the
00:20:02researchers have to behave like in a criminal case go to the grounds go to the
00:20:07local place have a good research having 12,000 cases each year like Nufan says I
00:20:14mean it's I think it's too much unless we are like a zoo or a vacation set for for
00:20:23extra stressors account so I don't think there are that much more I think there's
00:20:30more noise in terms of information okay but that's just my okay let's air to the
00:20:39side for the sake of the conversation that 50% of these things are real we still
00:20:44have an increase in UFOs are they are we ramping up to some event your thoughts
00:20:49it's possible yeah I mean if you look at the process of the real crop circles over
00:20:54the years they kind of have been increasing in complexity they've been
00:20:58increasing in number again more and more widespread around the world it's almost
00:21:02like if there's gonna be any message from any kind of otherworldly beings they're
00:21:08gonna find benign way of doing it which is probably the nice way of doing it just
00:21:13laying down intricate geometries speaking in a mathematical or geometric
00:21:18language in fields what karma what peaceful way can you have I agree we have
00:21:26the same processes in the UFOs we have more crops showing up because they're more
00:21:34oxen as well right so it's I don't think there are more there are more horses are we ready for
00:21:45contact I don't think so have we found more information about UFOs no the same
00:21:54behaviors still the round-shaped objects right objects that behave with they
00:22:03perform highly maneuvers our personic maneuvers instant acceleration the exact
00:22:09same behavior the exact same observation that 70 years ago was happening so there
00:22:16was no evolution in that sense okay and so and I believe that the object the
00:22:23object the phenomena behaves the same way we could almost find the same observations
00:22:30now people are more aware of the phenomena but the phenomena has a specific
00:22:37interest in military stuff seems like it does she's like it seems like it goes
00:22:43through this because it's it's such a startling story 40 to 50 foot wide
00:22:48something I don't want to use the word craft glowing orb right over the front gate
00:22:54did anyone fire a weapon at it I'm not sure in my case however I have reports from
00:23:03other cases where something similar happened and weapons were fired at it
00:23:08without without any impact yes I'm assuming everyone on the base was
00:23:15debriefed I'm jumping way ahead of the story here I just want but I want to touch
00:23:20that and we'll come back to it what was everyone debriefed separately or well let me
00:23:24tell you okay happened in my instance okay we were relieved of course we had to call
00:23:30out maintenance crews to bring the missiles back up on alert and they did and
00:23:36by the way one of my primary witnesses has testified to the fact that he was one of
00:23:44the men that came out and and brought the missiles back up on alert and all ten
00:23:49missiles were down so he has verified what I just told you in that respect we
00:23:54were relieved the next morning we were flown back by helicopter to the base like I
00:23:59said about a hundred miles away and we were ordered to report to our squadron
00:24:04commander's office directly we did I walked in there he was white as a sheet
00:24:11now this was an old World War II B-17 pilot Wow he'd been around and he was
00:24:17white as a sheet I knew him pretty well we had you know met socially but I asked him
00:24:24directly I said was this some kind of an Air Force exercise and he assured me it was not it was
00:24:30definitely not an Air Force exercise I started to go through our our story of
00:24:40events or what happened and he and there was another fellow in the room a man from
00:24:46AFOSI Air Force Special Investigation they didn't seem who didn't seem all that
00:24:53interested in listening to what we had to tell them about the incident and and the
00:24:59reason is because they had heard or they knew about the incident that happened a
00:25:05week earlier we didn't we weren't privy to that not directly at any rate he just
00:25:17shoved a paper in our our face said sign here what are we signing this is a
00:25:22non-disclosure statement you are never to talk about this to anyone ever ever
00:25:28emphasize that there were I remember reading that were penalties involved jail time fines etc so we we
00:25:42signed and from that moment on we were not able to go back and talk to any of the
00:25:48guards or anybody about this in fact the some of the guards called me a day or two
00:25:57later at home and begged me to come out and talk to them and I couldn't do it I
00:26:04had to turn them down and just unbelievable it really pained me to do that because they had to
00:26:12stand there in front of this thing you know scared to death not knowing what it
00:26:16was couldn't explain it and I I just couldn't go talk to them I couldn't talk to
00:26:23about I wish I had but so you're all bottled up inside you can't tell another human
00:26:28being what's just happened exactly and that's the way it was until about 1994
00:26:34so in the 40s 50s 60s where this old tension after the world war there were
00:26:42more more sightings right now things are more peaceful but I think there's
00:26:46essentially more noise what about the cat and mouse game I mean I think we can
00:26:51agree that this you know they show up daily they show up daily they put a little crop
00:26:55circle they leave they do something with a cattle mutilation they abduct people we
00:26:59know about that the implants and stuff and and but it's always this cat and
00:27:03mouse game and it's gone on for decades why the cat and mouse game why why
00:27:09whoever these entities are why don't they just tell us who they are and quit
00:27:13playing around that's a good point I mean I think they might if we saw them we
00:27:16might freak out or faint I think that might be one of the things but I think one of
00:27:20the things with crop circles is that all these people who are making them they
00:27:24call it land art some call them hoaxes right you know the the people who
00:27:28originally made them the original artists otherworldly beings may be
00:27:32looking at these thinking oh they're communicating back you know so there could
00:27:36be like a communication and we don't even know it's really happening and there
00:27:40is stories I've heard of some of these these land these crop artists or hoaxes
00:27:44they've actually turned up in a field where they were going to make a specific
00:27:48crop circle specific design and it was already there when they got there that's
00:27:53bizarre and stuff like that that they've had experiences where they've made one
00:27:56the next day they've gone back and there's an extra little circle on the
00:27:59side they're like what and they've had experiences where they feel like they're
00:28:02channeling this energy and they're like whoa so they they have mystical
00:28:05experiences as well some of them do anyway and so there's this going on there's
00:28:10this like so are they you know what's going on here who you know are the
00:28:14messages that are being placed down by humans on the land that we call hoaxes
00:28:19actually influenced by otherworldly being so there's there's lots of ways to
00:28:24approach this interesting hypothesis why not again but I believe there are
00:28:29different manifestations according to the possible different species that may be
00:28:35communicating because abductions or capital populations and this completely
00:28:43different I concur scenarios completely different agendas and again are we
00:28:52ready I don't think so why don't why do the captain the cat and mouse clearly they
00:28:59don't want to otherwise they would exactly they would they would have by now
00:29:04right now because they certainly can't they don't UFOs appear I'll use that word
00:29:10again appear with impunity because they just come and go and we can't stop them or so it
00:29:13seems like we can't stop although it's because the whole Roswell thing was it
00:29:18shut down was it we don't know but the bottom line is they appear over
00:29:23airports we've had I've had flighted what were they called the air traffic
00:29:28controller an ex-air traffic controller come on the record with me on camera
00:29:31telling me that when he got to the that airport where he was working the whole
00:29:37airport was freaked out and this thing came right down and hovered over the
00:29:41airport he looks up at the radar and sure enough here comes this huge target
00:29:46across the scope that the tower radars only have 20 mile range so when they're
00:29:50moving fast they really could chunk a chunk a chunk come across it they and he
00:29:54didn't even get the words out of his mouth what is that when the thing was
00:29:58right over the airport really low altitude at the same altitude as the tower so
00:30:05about 180 feet and he went oh my gosh and so everybody of course they look at
00:30:11this and they're all staring at this thing it's huge
00:30:14they have to close certain airports now we know allegedly something happened in
00:30:17China a couple of years back where they closed the airport this year here in UK or
00:30:22this year during several days the the ethel airport was closed because they had some
00:30:29drones and lately yeah they were drones they were John yeah yeah that's what I
00:30:33say but no one saw a drone but no one saw anything else really I think it was a
00:30:37actually that was like I think that was a cover-up of a malfunction well we have
00:30:41the Chicago O'Hare incident where it just pops like that right through the
00:30:45clouds seen by multiple witnesses what I'm trying to make is whatever these
00:30:50things are they're not going away and this all that this whole conversation I just I
00:30:56hate to use the word devil's advocate but that's what I'm going to play could
00:31:00this be part of an elaborate deception in other words like this like we said
00:31:05earlier and I agree with you this is a benign way to kind of draw people in
00:31:09isn't this beautiful this they're intelligent because there's intelligence
00:31:12behind these cross circles especially some of the ones with the DNA strands and
00:31:16all this other stuff and it's just highly sophisticated advanced geometry all this
00:31:20but it could it be part of some sort of a deception I know Jacques
00:31:25Valais tends to lean towards that and the late JL Hynek also lean towards that so
00:31:31I'm not alone in this dissection by he well not no not by us by them it's a kind of
00:31:37Laura said but then we would have to think and accept the idea that then it's
00:31:43only one one race exactly but do they if they are them but they have the same
00:31:51approach the same agenda deception they are many are they acting as in concert
00:31:58concept or is just one assuming different forms I lean towards the idea that it's
00:32:05one assuming changing shape-shifting appearing as a mantis appearing as a
00:32:11gray tall whites are different I think that's it that's a separate class I think the
00:32:16grays and I talk to a late David Flynn about this I think the grays are
00:32:20biologically constructed suits where entities can inhabit these things you're
00:32:24like they're like avatars that's what I think they are this is mainly the
00:32:29research of John Martin I was a good friend of mine and John Michelle and
00:32:32others Alan Brown and Michael Glickman in those three early crop circles in the
00:32:381980s going to the early 90s there was a subtle progression of styles there was the
00:32:44simple circles there was the circle with the satellites around it like three or
00:32:48four circles a slight difference very slight variations on the size of all
00:32:53these different things the distances between them and what they found was is
00:32:56that it was a remarkably sophisticated teaching tool for potentially different
00:33:02ways to square the circle which is one of the banes of any geometer sure you know
00:33:07over the generations over the millennia and also it showed different types of
00:33:12geometry like up to sevenfold geometry that had never been presented on paper
00:33:16before suddenly they were turning up in the fields and he may only be a few
00:33:19little circles one line but if you decode that and decode it geometrically
00:33:24suddenly all these all this information would emerge and it was blowing people
00:33:29away who only those who really understood geometry because it was like a
00:33:32teaching tool through the years through the months through the years every summer
00:33:36it'll get more complicated more profound to a point when new styles of geometry and
00:33:44ways to approach what known geometrical formulas were being presented in the
00:33:50fields no one knows who was doing it and so there was this really subtle teaching
00:33:54from whoever was making them and so this alone this is before they got
00:33:58complicated it got really complicated in 1991 where you had like the Mandelbrot set in
00:34:05Cambridge place in Ickleton you had other examples developing from those years but
00:34:10before that they were just circles and lines and so we have to kind of take that
00:34:14into consideration and that's when the real phenomena was really pure and it was
00:34:19just happening in the fields and there was some deliberate communication I think
00:34:23taking place we see the same type of advanced geometric shapes and if Howard
00:34:27Crowhurst was here he would be tying right in with what you're saying
00:34:30what you're seeing and trying to understand it and I have come to the clear
00:34:36conclusion that the basic language used here is number because like I said there's no
00:34:44interpretation of that if I put four fingers up then there's no interpretation
00:34:49it's not two no and the the use of number and the the most ancient science that we know about is
00:35:01called the quadrivium the four it was it was science up until the Renaissance that
00:35:09science was based on this comes from Pythagoras the the these are the four subjects
00:35:15which are supposed to you link you to higher spirit okay the first is number the second is geometry
00:35:23geometry is considered to be number deployed in space okay number projected into space gives you
00:35:34geometry music or harmony which is number in time because you have rhythm and waveforms so and the
00:35:44fourth one is astronomy which is number projected in space and time okay because you have cycles and
00:35:53movements and positions and angles and that was the basics of ancient science there everything was
00:36:00linked to number geometry harmony and music and an astronomy and it was seen to be like four branches or
00:36:11four ways that the human mind could connect to some kind of greater intelligence that's I think it's an
00:36:20important way of looking at things and what I can find from all the study I've been doing on the
00:36:26sites in Carnac and different sites around the world is that that's what's being used number ratio
00:36:33proportion orientation so astronomy I know that as far as I'm concerned this study has kind of it's
00:36:42connected me to something and I would like anybody else to be able to take part in that we see advanced
00:36:49geometry someone is speaking to us in the language of math because in the north circle octagon now advanced
00:36:55geometry in Carnac advanced geometry here advanced geometry it's everywhere
00:37:25everything's developed and Kantین всеandoz eleven that's what makes us think it's available to us to the
00:37:31different people live and towns zaket year doctor and even when we see ME
00:37:32that seems to the date of, it's there's been important to those aspects of S Xbox One
00:37:34that's the whole thing I grew up being able to do to see and what is what works to do if it is
00:37:36ready to be a collaboration with training in terms that allows you to learn about the
00:37:39learning and learning to reinforce any platform with nem and technical health to your
00:37:42training both the campus on global stage of the community and religion because if you really want to look at a
00:37:44time he does give a careful judgement day but regarder it also don't pay me soindet it'd be I'm sorry if I can make that bend I can do it for
00:38:17What I think it's a theory, a little bit out there, but I like it a lot.
00:38:30It's just one more piece of the puzzle.
00:38:35Do you know David Percy or David Flynn?
00:38:39David Flynn, sure, was a colleague of mine.
00:38:41Passed away a few years ago.
00:38:42Yeah, in 2012.
00:38:47For nearly two decades, the late David Flynn published his original and groundbreaking research on cutting-edge subjects.
00:38:55Many of the men who have published their books and DVDs owe their work to David's original research.
00:39:01Flynn was a true genius, admired by many for his incredible eye-opening discoveries.
00:39:06The Crabwood Crop Circle appeared on August 14, 2007, near Winchester, England.
00:39:13Lucy Pringle photographed her.
00:39:15Pringle stated that the lay of the crops in The Alien was one I had seen only once before, and that in the Chibbolton face of 2001.
00:39:24It seemed as though the flattened, swirled crop around each standing tuft had been laid individually.
00:39:31Such a task would surely be, as Pringle suggests, beyond the ability of man during the short hours of darkness at this time of year.
00:39:39None of the stalks were broken in their formation.
00:39:42They were bent at the base.
00:39:44The lay in the circular dish was totally different to that in the face of the alien, which was a more traditional construction.
00:39:54The Crabwood Circle looks like David Flynn's brother's personal tech logo from 1996.
00:40:01Eyewitnesses said they saw swirling lights and heard pulsing noises.
00:40:05The glyph is 390 feet tall and 240 feet wide.
00:40:10The disc part of that glyph is 100 feet across.
00:40:15There are 26 words in the message and 59 lines of horizontal resolution.
00:40:21There are 33 lines in the disc.
00:40:2459 times 33 equals 1,947, or 1947, the year of the Roswell UFO crash in New Mexico.
00:40:3659 minus 33 equals 26, the number of words in the disc and in our alphabet.
00:40:4233% of 59 equals 19.47.
00:40:47Once again, we see the 1947 number come up.
00:40:51There are 151 ASCII characters in the code.
00:40:55151 times 33 equal 4,983, which is the distance in miles from the exact latitude and longitude of the Crabwood Circle to the incident in Roswell.
00:41:15And the idea of an Earth-Mars connection.
00:41:21The idea of Cydonia and the representation that they found between Cydonia and Afebury.
00:41:29Yes.
00:41:30That's absolutely amazing.
00:41:32It started with Sirius.
00:41:35Sirius being the brightest star in the sky, being from the dark constellation Canaan, where Canaan, where Mount Aram is,
00:41:45where the literature says that the Fallen Angels came.
00:41:50In Canaan, there's Sidon as well, Cydonia.
00:41:53Right.
00:41:54And so maybe there's some connection.
00:41:57The late David Flynn believed that there was.
00:41:59Exactly.
00:41:59And I've read his work and lean towards that also.
00:42:02Exactly.
00:42:03There's something going on there.
00:42:04And so the face on Mars that was discovered in 76, that then in 79, Vince Pietro, Gregory Mullinar, based on, on, they are professionals in terms of image analysis.
00:42:18And they noticed that there was geometry there, there was repetition of angles, the 19.5 degree angle, the pyramids, even the face.
00:42:29The face is one and a half mile long, 400 feet high.
00:42:33Lots of giants may be there.
00:42:35Yeah.
00:42:36Maybe there's a connection from those giants in Mars.
00:42:40Could be.
00:42:40Yeah, yeah.
00:42:41Some people posit that the entire atmosphere was just sucked away with some sort of a nuclear holocaust, but we don't know.
00:42:48One thing I would like to do, since we're in this, I just want to go to several of these, because the pictures are incredible here.
00:42:56They really are.
00:42:57And folks, if you're in the area, I would highly, and interested in this at all, highly recommend a visit to this museum, because the pictures are, you know, 110 percent, and it's really laid out in an incredible way.
00:43:12So let's go to one of these, and a few of these, and spend a few minutes just talking about them, okay?
00:43:18So, I mean, this is a control, and then here we have a sample, when something happens, and it begins to bend the crop.
00:43:24You see, it's not broken, it's bent, so that in itself is incredible.
00:43:28And I know that the samples that they did with some of the seeds, the ones that went through a crop circle, sprouted earlier, were more vigorous, and all this other stuff.
00:43:39And you see here the expanded nodes.
00:43:41Yeah.
00:43:42Well, they've kind of expanded outwards and lengthways.
00:43:44This is one of the signs of some kind of microwave or heat energy has actually been above it.
00:43:50And there was a scientific paper that came out, that was peer-reviewed, and it was published and everything, and it explained that these, it must have been, you know, the energy effects that were recorded within a crop circle, one example, must have been created by a sphere of light about this big, projecting down with microwave energy.
00:44:08Right.
00:44:09So, you know, here we have photography of orbs, and some people say, oh, they're lens flares, these aren't lens flares.
00:44:15Something else is going on here, and this is what people, eyewitnesses, keep seeing over and over and over again.
00:44:21So, something's happening here.
00:44:22It's almost like they're, like, under some sort of control, and they have a task to do, they do it, and then they're gone.
00:44:28But, um, very interesting.
00:44:31There's a lot of material.
00:44:32Yeah.
00:44:32Look at this one.
00:44:33And there's loads of video footage, like we've got just up here, people have been recording it, witnessing these balls of light moving around after a crop circle has been formed.
00:44:42Right.
00:44:42And also, the famous Oliver's Castle one, where one looks like it's, they're forming the actual crop circle.
00:44:47Right, that was incredible.
00:44:48Within a few seconds.
00:44:49And so, you know, and that fits in with the scientific paper that was published in an academic journal called Physiologia Plantarum, back in the early 90s.
00:45:01And so, you know, there has been scientific research proving that at least some of these are genuine.
00:45:08I want to go here real quick, because this, Francisco, and we're talking about this.
00:45:14Chilbotin.
00:45:15Yeah, this is the Chilbotin crop circle.
00:45:17So, why is this so important?
00:45:19Just explain that to us, Francisco.
00:45:21What happened?
00:45:23This was like a reply to the message sent by the radio telescope Arocibo in the 16th of November, 1974.
00:45:33And in 2001, it just showed up.
00:45:37So, the message sent contained the numbers 1 to 10.
00:45:41It contained our DNA sequence, the position of our solar system, and some other information related to us.
00:45:50And this was the reply.
00:45:52So, we had, instead of the or-helix, there's a third arm.
00:45:57Instead of a female and male representation, there was another type of being.
00:46:04There were numbers, as well.
00:46:06There was the eventual location of the solar system where this came from.
00:46:13So, yeah.
00:46:14These are the lines where the tractor comes in.
00:46:18And that's about between wheels, I'm going to guess about 8 feet, roughly.
00:46:22Roughly about 8 feet between one wheel and the other wheel.
00:46:26Roughly.
00:46:27So, it just gives us an idea of the scale, the enormity of this thing that we're looking at.
00:46:33And it begs the question, and you're right, people can do pretty much anything.
00:46:36But when you're down in the field here, you have no idea what you're actually building unless you're up in the air.
00:46:41So, explain why this crop circle is so important.
00:46:44This one was just a couple of years ago, and it was right next to a place called Clay Hill in Warminster.
00:46:49And this area, this hill, this earthworks, was actually the location where hundreds of UFO sightings were seen back in the 1980s, early 90s, and before that as well.
00:47:01And this caused a bit of a sensation.
00:47:03So, crop circles keep turning up here, as do accounts of balls of light and other such phenomena.
00:47:08And this is a brilliant example of like a six-pointed star, almost in 3D.
00:47:15Incredible.
00:47:15I actually referenced this in one of my, in my novel, the Nephilim Trilogy novel, and when I was studying crop circles, and of course that's, that's what people back then thought it was, your thoughts?
00:47:30Well, this is the famous Mowing Devil.
00:47:32This was reported in 1678 in Hertfordshire, which is just, you know, part of East Anglia, pretty much.
00:47:39And a whole light phenomena, these red flames were seen, what they thought, mist in the sky.
00:47:46And they went out to check what it was, and they thought the devil had mowed the ground, because there was a crop circle there.
00:47:51And so we have one of the earliest authenticated crop circle reports, with the same kind of phenomena.
00:47:58People had strange experiences, effects, and the light phenomena associated with it, as well as the flattened crops.
00:48:04So we have it here, from several hundred years ago, just one of many recorded, you know, from this era and before.
00:48:11Okay.
00:48:12Okay.
00:48:34Listen.
00:48:36Okay.
00:49:03So, I'm here with Matt Hines.
00:49:14Matt, thanks, first of all, for coming on the record with us.
00:49:18This is really important to this film because I remember when you reached out to me years
00:49:24ago about this, the crop circle, and we'll get into the whole backstory here as we go,
00:49:30but this crop circle is in a standing field of corn, and the corn is eight feet tall.
00:49:36So, right off the bat, you know, you show me how you can make a crop circle like that.
00:49:40Give us the backstory on it, Matt, please.
00:49:44So, I had kind of just kind of started into the 12 fingers, 12 toes, red hair, double rows
00:49:53of teeth, giants, maybe six months before this crop circle showed up.
00:50:00I started to listen to some of your interviews, and the company that I used to work for, we
00:50:08had a base in Chillicothe, Ohio, and I had listened to a podcast that you had done with a gentleman,
00:50:16and he had reported the second largest crop circle ever found in North America in Chillicothe
00:50:23in September of 2012, towards the end of the month, and he had talked about it was across
00:50:29from what were believed to be, quote, Indian mounds, and it also had high-tension electricity
00:50:36wires, and he had also mentioned that it had running water, which is Paint Creek running
00:50:44beside this field.
00:50:46So, he was given all those details, and I thought, you know what, that's just not too
00:50:50far from here.
00:50:52The line of business that I am in and was in is helicopter EMS, and my crew was going
00:50:59to be going to do a public relations event, and this is maybe one to two days after this
00:51:05had been discovered.
00:51:06And so, when I kind of looked at the coordinates, I knew we wouldn't be too far off of our flight
00:51:13plan, and I gave my phone to the nurse on the aircraft and asked the pilot if he wouldn't
00:51:21mind just to deviate from the flight plan, maybe a few tenths of a mile, and get some
00:51:27pictures.
00:51:28And they said, well, what is it we're taking pictures of?
00:51:30And I said, don't ask.
00:51:31You'll know when you see it.
00:51:32When you get back, we'll talk about it.
00:51:34And that's what happened.
00:51:37Let me get something straight.
00:51:38So, you get wind of this thing.
00:51:40Where did you hear about it first?
00:51:42How did you hear about this crop circle appearing?
00:51:46It was on your show, and you had interviewed a gentleman, and he was an expert in crop circles,
00:51:56and he was telling you, you know, the dimensions of it.
00:51:59You know, he was talking about that it was eight-foot corn and those type of things.
00:52:04And so, that's when I realized, you know, wow, this is right here in our backyard.
00:52:10And once the crew got back and I saw the pictures, and then I saw the pictures that you would put
00:52:16up on your site, and I had a little bit of better pictures and a little better resolution.
00:52:22And that's when I sent you that email to say, hey, would you like a little better picture of that?
00:52:26That's when we were able to connect and talk about them.
00:52:29Now, when the shopper pilot came up over the field, did he, like, circle it a few times?
00:52:35What were his, did he have any remarks?
00:52:37Did he, you know, talk to you about what he had seen?
00:52:41I do recall they did do several resolutions around and got several decent picks.
00:52:49And I believe the flight crew had quite a bit of conversation on their way to the PR event after that.
00:52:56And then, of course, once they got back, that's when some really great conversations started to occur.
00:53:03And basically, a whole new world has been opened up spiritually to me since 2012, the last 10 years.
00:53:12And also, Dan, the pilot, it's opened up a whole new world for him as well.
00:53:18He and I have had some great conversations.
00:53:21And those few weeks after that, a lot of books, a lot of websites, a lot of podcasts later.
00:53:27What I find interesting, and I think you know where I'm going to go with this,
00:53:31we had just done, we were about to do or in the process of doing the first Nephilim Mounds Conference
00:53:39that had ever been done in Ohio since the birth of that state.
00:53:44So no one had ever, you know, looked at these mounds and said, wait a minute, this could be the remains.
00:53:51This is like Nephilim architecture, which, of course, is the, you know, our film series,
00:53:56Omnitrell of a Nephilim, the books, I mean, everything.
00:53:58And I realize we're going against mainstream archaeology because they're insisting Native Americans built all these mounds.
00:54:07We're saying, and not so fast, citizen, many Native tribes that came into the Ohio area
00:54:12stated that these mounds were there before they even came into the area, that they didn't do them.
00:54:18But all that's been redacted and massaged.
00:54:22And what I find interesting about this is that crop circle, like so many crop circles over in the U.K.,
00:54:29in the Wiltshire area, are right by these ancient megaliths, these ancient mounds.
00:54:35They go hand in hand.
00:54:37So in my opinion, there's a connection between those mounds across the river.
00:54:44This crop circle, the electrical grid, which is, it's all, it all like dovetails together.
00:54:50But what I find really interesting, and I want to get your take on this,
00:54:54was that this crop circle appeared either before or shortly after the Nephilim Mounds Conference.
00:55:01And in that conference, we were stating, once again, for the first time since those things were created,
00:55:07that looking back into the biblical narrative and stating that what we're seeing here
00:55:13are the fingerprints of a supernatural.
00:55:15What these are is Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology.
00:55:19So that's a lot of verbiage on my part.
00:55:23But I'm just kind of setting up the question.
00:55:26Do you find it coincidental that this thing appeared right at the time of the Nephilim Mounds?
00:55:33And there's never been another one, as far as I know.
00:55:35Speak to that, please.
00:55:37No, there has never been another crop circle reported in this area since this time,
00:55:4210 years ago.
00:55:43I believe this one was discovered sometime either the 27th of September 2012 or the 28th.
00:55:54So that would either be the day before your opening day in Newark
00:56:00or the day of your opening day in Newark.
00:56:05I think the odds of that are probably about as good as the odds that, you know,
00:56:09hunter-gatherer Indians had this ability to make these mounds.
00:56:14You know, LA, in 2003, just a few nautical miles away from this crop circle,
00:56:21in the same county is called the Sipe Mound.
00:56:27And at the Sipe Mound, it has a hinge.
00:56:32And in 2003, there was a large crop circle discovered there in a soybean field,
00:56:39literally within a quarter mile of that mound.
00:56:42So here you see this repetitive pattern of these mounds and crop circles,
00:56:48whether it be in soybeans or eight-foot-high corn.
00:56:52It's amazing.
00:56:53And, of course, we know the whole point of kind of drilling down into this
00:56:58is you can't make a crop circle at eight-foot-high corn.
00:57:01I mean, if I drop you down in the field, you have no reference point.
00:57:07You've got to be above that.
00:57:09You would never be able to, even if you could hear your voice at 150 to 200 feet in width,
00:57:16it'd be still impossible with the detail of the circles that went into this crop circle
00:57:23to make all the different angles that they put in it.
00:57:28I just, it would be almost impossible.
00:57:32You'd literally have to be lowered down from above.
00:57:34It had, that's the thing, yeah.
00:57:37And then, I mean, you'd have to have somebody in the air, correct me if I'm wrong here,
00:57:42you'd have to have somebody in the air directing what you were doing.
00:57:45No, no, you're too far to the right.
00:57:47Come back, you know, four or five rows, start another circle there.
00:57:51But, I mean, how do you do that?
00:57:54You know, you'd have to be dropped, you have to drop down and bend all the corn down
00:57:59and then somehow move to another circle and start again.
00:58:03But you don't know what you're looking at.
00:58:05And that's what's incredible about the circle.
00:58:08It's, when you say the second largest, it's really the second, it's the second largest in terms of circles.
00:58:14It has, I think this circle in Chillicothe has 43 circles to it.
00:58:19And we interviewed a gentleman from a crop circle research group who called them dragon heads,
00:58:26which, of course, we find incredibly interesting that he called them that.
00:58:30And then, of course, you know, once again, the mounds right across the creek.
00:58:34I mean, it all adds up.
00:58:37I'm going to ask you, in your opinion, who do you think did this?
00:58:40In my opinion, it would be entities that are able to move through dimensions of time and space
00:58:47that are alien to this world.
00:58:53You could call them fallen angels.
00:58:55You could call them spirits.
00:58:59This was not done by any human.
00:59:04You've seen lots of crop circles in this film, and some of them are absolutely incredible.
00:59:09But how do we ascertain between the real ones and the ones that are hoaxes?
00:59:13This is why we took time and drilled into the crop circle that appeared in Chillicothe, Ohio, in 2012.
00:59:22What's amazing about that, and it sets it apart from every other crop circle that we've seen in the film,
00:59:28that crop circle was accomplished in a field of corn that was eight feet tall.
00:59:34What's even more astounding is that crop circle appeared on the same day,
00:59:39or very close to the day, of the very first Nephilim Mounds Conference in Ohio.
00:59:45Folks, for thousands of years, those mounds have been laying there,
00:59:49the Octagon Mound, the Circle Mound, the Sheep Mound, and others.
00:59:52And what we did in that conference was to expose the truth about the builders of those mounds,
00:59:59that they were not American Indians or the Hopewell or the Adena.
01:00:04These were just names made up by archaeologists.
01:00:07What's incredible is that there's a convergence between the modern-day phenomenon of a crop circle
01:00:13and these ancient megalithic sites.
01:00:15You saw it in England, at Silbury Hill, where that huge crop circle appeared.
01:00:20There's a connectivity between what happened in the ancient past and what's happening in modernity.
01:00:26Crop circles are real, and they are, in our opinion, the fingerprints of the supernatural.
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