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00:00:21President Bashar al-Nasid has been brought down.
00:00:24Thousands of people celebrated in the main square chanting freedom.
00:00:28The inside story of mass detention, torture and killing.
00:00:33Told by those who carried it out.
00:00:46And their victims.
00:00:48And they put them in.
00:00:50And they put them in.
00:00:51And they put them in.
00:00:52So it was a lot of difficult.
00:00:53If someone was able to take care of them.
00:00:57I'm not happy.
00:00:58I'm a judge.
00:00:59And I'm a judge.
00:01:00And I'm a judge.
00:01:01And I'm a judge.
00:01:02I'm a judge.
00:01:03I don't know how we can deal with this situation.
00:01:05And how we want to deal with our emotions.
00:01:07It's difficult for someone to ask.
00:01:09Who can deal with it.
00:01:11And who can deal with it.
00:01:13Now on Frontline.
00:01:14Syria's Detainee Files.
00:01:18This program contains graphic imagery and descriptions of violence.
00:01:24Viewer discretion is advised.
00:01:26And who will be at a hotel?
00:01:27And where will you lose their friends?
00:01:28The hotel's discretion is advised.
00:01:29The hotel's discretion is advised.
00:01:30The hotel's discretion is advised.
00:01:33Oh, my God.
00:02:03—
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00:02:29I don't know.
00:02:58Here we go.
00:03:01Here we go.
00:03:05Here we go.
00:03:09This is how we show the shape.
00:03:15We put the cap here.
00:03:19We put it here.
00:03:21We put it to the top and we stop the surface of the body.
00:03:25It's about half an hour and a half an hour will be able to get rid of it.
00:03:30It won't be able to get rid of it.
00:03:33This is what happens.
00:03:36When they hear the name of the man, they get rid of it.
00:03:56They don't have to be able to get rid of it.
00:03:59It's about half an hour and a half an hour and a half an hour will be able to get rid of it.
00:04:20Every member of the government or the government, I want them to prove that they are the people.
00:04:28They are the people who are interested in the accounts and the accounts and the accounts.
00:04:47Why did you not try to stop the torture?
00:04:50You are talking about a country that is hurting the man.
00:04:55There are thousands of people who haven't seen it.
00:05:00There are 10,000 people who died,
00:05:04and they don't know anything.
00:05:06I'm right, I'm right.
00:05:08But today I'm not going to go to prison.
00:05:22Let's get out of here.
00:05:25Let's get out of here, Hans.
00:05:55Let's get out of here.
00:05:57Let's get out of here.
00:05:59Let's get out of here.
00:06:01Let's get out of here.
00:06:03Let's get out of here.
00:06:05Let's get out of here.
00:06:07Let's get out of here.
00:06:09Let's get out of here.
00:06:10Let's get out of here.
00:06:12Let's get out of here.
00:06:14I came out for 37 years.
00:06:18I was 10 years old for a person's decision.
00:06:23This was the 10 years old.
00:06:29From the younger people to the younger people.
00:06:39Four days after the fall of Bashar al-Assad,
00:06:42we went with Shadi Haroun and his younger brother Hadi
00:06:46to Seydnaya prison,
00:06:48where they were once detained and tortured.
00:06:54Families of the disappeared were making the same journey,
00:06:58searching for their loved ones.
00:07:12After almost a decade as prisoners,
00:07:22the brothers are now working with a human rights organization
00:07:26to gather evidence of crimes committed by the Assad regime.
00:07:30This is the main entrance.
00:07:34They're looking for the people,
00:07:36and they're looking for the people
00:07:39who are looking for the people.
00:07:44This is the entrance for the building.
00:07:48It's behind the wall.
00:07:50This is behind the earth.
00:07:52This is the people who are looking for the world.
00:07:55And there are a few details for the rooms.
00:07:58And now we'll see...
00:08:01This is the entrance which we found in our village.
00:08:04It's a locked inn.
00:08:06It was a cabin sahaja.
00:08:08It was only one village.
00:08:09It is located in the temple.
00:08:11It's located in the temple,
00:08:13in the old 16-4-2017.
00:08:16It was 2017.
00:08:20It was a
00:08:24record of 16,786.
00:08:33God will not give you a gift.
00:08:35God will give you a gift from you,
00:08:38Bessari Al-Asad.
00:08:41Just a little bit.
00:08:43We are looking for Syria.
00:08:45We don't know where our brothers and sisters
00:08:53who have fought for us!
00:08:55Four days where theく paling will цели
00:08:57God will come from the infrastructure of theiness!
00:09:03And we don't see before!
00:09:06He's an amazing man.
00:09:10StHaydi,räct.
00:09:12I just brought you a little bit of some kind of wine.
00:09:19I have a little bit of wine.
00:09:22We're in the city of Nassar.
00:09:24I'm here, in the city of Nassar.
00:09:27We're in the city of Nassar.
00:09:29I was not impressed.
00:09:31I stopped at home,
00:09:33and I started to make a cigar.
00:09:35But it didn't have a great life.
00:09:37I never thought of anything.
00:09:39I never thought of anything.
00:09:41I never thought of it.
00:09:43I didn't leave a church.
00:09:45I didn't leave a church.
00:09:47But I didn't have a car.
00:09:49I didn't have a nice life for me.
00:09:59The demand for political change that started in Tunisia has now reached Syria.
00:10:09Which has seen unprecedented challenges to the 10-year rule of President al-Assad.
00:10:14The anti-government demonstrations are getting bigger and they're spreading.
00:10:17Some of the demonstrators have been openly calling for revolution.
00:10:24When Syria's uprising began, Shadi and his brother joined the protests.
00:10:29And within a month, they were organizing them in their hometown.
00:10:33I felt happy, I felt that you were able to speak.
00:10:41This person is not a god, no one wants to talk to me about it.
00:10:46There are a lot of feelings for me that are great.
00:10:52I told you the reason why I was waiting for Syria and I was waiting for it.
00:10:56But we are still in the first row, not in the first row.
00:11:0222-4, there is a struggle for the regime.
00:11:07We must, from one of the challenges,
00:11:10be able to escape from the streets.
00:11:13We are going to be in this hour, three or four days, like what happened in Egypt.
00:11:17This is the idea.
00:11:19And then, someone said to us that Bessar is coming back to us.
00:11:26I was with Shadi and a group of friends.
00:11:30I mean, everyone was almost like a group, in the past.
00:11:34Bessar! Bessar! Bessar! Bessar! Bessar!
00:11:40We are going to go to Zablattani or Shadi. We are going to go to Zablattani or Shadi.
00:11:45I was with him. I was trying to get closer to Zablattani.
00:11:50And there was a bridge in Zablattani. There was also a bridge in Zablattani, and I saw it.
00:11:56This is a bridge.
00:11:58But we don't have to be afraid.
00:12:02We don't have to be afraid.
00:12:06.
00:12:22.
00:12:25On that day,
00:12:55Assad's security forces killed more than a hundred protesters
00:12:59and arrested thousands across the country.
00:13:03Shadi was one of them.
00:13:06He says he was taken to what looked like a normal house
00:13:09in a residential neighborhood in Damascus.
00:13:13But inside was an interrogation center run by Syrian intelligence.
00:13:25He said he was killed and killed and killed him until he died.
00:13:35So what do you think he is now?
00:13:41We, the police officers, had to kill us as much as we can.
00:13:45And we don't have to take care of it.
00:13:50Colonel Zane was a high-ranking Air Force intelligence officer
00:13:54when the uprising began.
00:13:56He eventually defected in 2014.
00:14:00He's one of 40 former regime officials
00:14:03of various ranks we track down across a dozen countries.
00:14:08We verified their identities
00:14:10by examining military IDs and other documents
00:14:13and cross-referencing their accounts
00:14:15with those of other insiders and former prisoners.
00:14:19Many of them spoke to us before the fall of Assad
00:14:22and feared reprisals from both sides.
00:14:25Some have given testimony to human rights groups
00:14:28or courts investigating war crimes.
00:14:32We agreed to conceal their identities and change their names,
00:14:35given the value of their first-hand accounts
00:14:38about the abuses carried out by the Assad regime.
00:14:42The news reports were made by the CIA
00:14:44and the forces of Iraq
00:14:46were locked to the CIA
00:14:48in all the Uraound authorities.
00:14:51The most important thing is
00:14:53like any earthquake policy of an enemy
00:14:54was his running and defending
00:14:55the regime's war.
00:14:58Especially if any enemy or force
00:15:00of the army
00:15:02from the force of the war
00:15:03and the resistance of the army.
00:15:04It's a situation,
00:15:07I'm with you. Where do you want to go? Where do you want to continue?
00:15:13I'm assuming that the leader of the defenseman was going to build a prison,
00:15:19to build a house, and to leave, and to leave, and to leave, and to leave,
00:15:23and to leave, and to leave, and to leave.
00:15:25The important thing is that it can affect the regime very well.
00:15:31For decades,
00:15:32Syria's intelligence agencies were seen as pillars that upheld the state.
00:15:37The country had four of them.
00:15:39The most powerful and prestigious was created by Bashar al-Assad's father, Hafiz,
00:15:45Air Force Intelligence.
00:15:48This place that I put in, is a science. I'll speak to it clearly.
00:15:53The law can be replaced.
00:15:56The opportunities for these houses, and the bus, and the car, and the bus, and the bus,
00:16:01and the bus, and the bus, and the bus, and the bus,
00:16:03and the bus, and the bus.
00:16:04And I'm going to kill, and my bus, and we're there, and the bus, and the bus.
00:16:08But in order to Allah, I didn't lose this problem.
00:16:10Did you give this thing to you?
00:16:13Of course.
00:16:14Of course, from the first day, they gave me a bus, and a bus.
00:16:18They gave me a bus, and I gave them everything.
00:16:21Sgt. Omar was another Air Force Intelligence officer.
00:16:33He defected about a year after the uprising began, and ultimately fought against the regime.
00:16:40Sgt. Omar was another Air Force intelligence officer.
00:16:45He defected about a year after the uprising began, and ultimately fought against the regime.
00:16:50Sgt. Omar had a jobutaёт by Odoko Al-Shiabi.
00:16:55Szt. Omar was not a matter of�Star.
00:16:57Sgt. Omar's second line is entrar at Eh-Shiabi.
00:17:00Sgt. Omar's second line was shot at Ah ви
00:17:09in San Marais.
00:17:13Sskabs the machine!
00:17:15Sgt. Omar's third line was shot right at Ahadie.
00:17:17Sся double that could not be turned off.
00:17:19made a middle man to try and find out where he was detained.
00:17:24Regime officials were known to take bribes
00:17:26for this kind of information.
00:17:28Major Riyad was an officer in the Syrian Air Force
00:17:52who says he was assigned to Air Force Intelligence
00:17:55when the uprising began.
00:17:57This issue is not only a police officer,
00:18:07this issue is related to a company.
00:18:10A company, a company, a company for the rest of the situation
00:18:14before the police officers, before the police officers,
00:18:18this issue is related to the gathering of money
00:18:20and the rest of the people's lives
00:18:22and the rest of the situation for the citizens.
00:18:24Around two months into the uprising, President Assad tried to defuse the protests by meeting with communities across Syria, including Shadi's neighborhood.
00:18:49Shadi told us he was in a delegation that met President Assad, and he asked for the release of his brother.
00:19:10He says the president agreed, and he was sent to see the head of Air Force Intelligence, Major General Jamil Hassan.
00:19:18He said, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:19:24After that, I left him and looked at me. I said, I don't want to leave my brother.
00:19:31That's all. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:19:36I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was sorry. I'm sorry. I was sorry.
00:19:41He said, I'll give him a letter. Let me give you any information.
00:19:42I was sorry. I said, I 있었 me.
00:19:43He said, I asked, I want to leave him.
00:19:44He said, I trust him. I asked, I want to leave him.
00:19:47I want to leave it. I told him, this is my THAT, I can leave her.
00:19:51He said, I see his brother. He asked him, he thought, how did he return?
00:19:53Shadi Haroum. Shadi Haroum is a bad person in the country, so I'm going to deal with him personally, and then after that, I'm going to try to get him first.
00:20:02I'm sorry to hear you, but I'm not going to talk to him.
00:20:05But why do you think that this situation?
00:20:08He was telling me that Bashar al-Assad is the president of the country, and I'm the president of the country.
00:20:18I'm the president of the country, which is the president of Syria.
00:20:22It's December 2024, soon after the fall of Assad.
00:20:43Shadi's heading to an Air Force Intelligence facility called Meze Investigations Branch.
00:20:50Shadi, are you ready?
00:20:52Are you ready?
00:20:53Yes, I'm ready.
00:20:54I'm ready to go.
00:20:55I'm ready to go.
00:20:56I'm ready to go.
00:21:01Located on an airbase, this was one of the regime's most notorious detention sites.
00:21:08Shadi's looking for information about those who are still missing.
00:21:13Shadi has done this impacts online policy.
00:21:14It's something that puts the wives, who...
00:21:15who have been interested in the class, lead them to the crossASSTheased
00:21:22job, or who have more writtenanto,
00:21:23and they have given to them the supervise.
00:21:28They took them a picture and gave them a number.
00:21:30This is 132.
00:21:36Why did you give them the numbers?
00:21:38It doesn't show who he is.
00:21:40It's the fault of his family.
00:21:44It doesn't show who he is.
00:21:47Although prisoners' identities were being hidden from the public and other detainees,
00:22:01meticulous records were kept about who was being held and where.
00:22:08The detainees' files are a trove of potential evidence for Shaadi and his organization.
00:22:13But they're in disarray, and many have been destroyed.
00:22:23So this is said, like, the number of this body is 10,002.
00:22:30This is one person.
00:22:34And this is the story of this person.
00:22:38No name.
00:22:43In May 2011, Shaadi was transferred here, to Mezzeh Investigations branch.
00:22:55And he also had a great point where he was living in fire,
00:23:00as in understanding the terrible circumstances.
00:23:02He was probably the most difficult person.
00:23:04He used to be a faulty process.
00:23:05He's beginning to find it.
00:23:07The faulty process.
00:23:07He was responsible for the types of fires.
00:23:10Let's say we can give it to him a big part in terms of the risk.
00:23:17Photo.
00:23:19I heard that there was a photo.
00:23:21Abdel Salam Mahmoud was the head of the Investigations Unit at Mazzeh.
00:23:51There's no publicly available photo of him, and his whereabouts are unknown.
00:23:57The U.S. has charged him with conspiracy to commit war crimes through the cruel and inhuman treatment of detainees.
00:24:05And a French court has convicted him of complicity in crimes against humanity.
00:24:21The U.S. has charged him with conspiracy to commit war crimes against the country.
00:24:29So I told him that the best is to admit it, and that's it, it's all right.
00:24:34The problem is that you're going to be fine.
00:24:35I told him, what did I think of my life, even though I knew it?
00:24:40I said, I don't have to do anything.
00:24:43Okay, I'm not going to do anything.
00:24:45But I don't have to do anything.
00:24:49Is there any one against the law?
00:24:51Any person?
00:24:53Any person?
00:24:55Any person?
00:24:56Any person?
00:24:57Any person?
00:24:58Any person?
00:24:59Any person?
00:25:00Any person?
00:25:01Any person?
00:25:02Any person?
00:25:03I mean, I understand.
00:25:05He said this is pretty horrible.
00:25:09He's fine, he's fine, he's fine, he's fine.
00:25:14He'll tell me what you want to say, what do you want to do?
00:25:16This is an opinion of the morning, the person is on my own.
00:25:25He went on the right side, he came back to the front.
00:25:29He came back from the front because they were making a sound.
00:25:32They were stuck with each other, and then they threw me in a bag.
00:25:39So someone was sitting in these walls.
00:25:45And there were people who were talking about it.
00:25:49It turned out that it turned out that it turned out that it turned out a lot.
00:25:57It was about seven or eight days in this situation.
00:26:10Shadi says he refused to confess.
00:26:14And eventually, he was presented to Air Force Intelligence head, Jameel Hassan.
00:26:20The general ordered him to stop protesting and sent him home.
00:26:27When I came here, I was very poor, and I was like, I don't know what to do with my body.
00:26:39My mother told me, why did it happen to me?
00:26:42My mother told me, don't go away from the images.
00:26:46Let's stop working on this job.
00:26:52There was a big tree on his name or on the name of his family.
00:27:02He was a poor family.
00:27:04He was under the war.
00:27:09I met a lot of people in this era.
00:27:13They were close to me.
00:27:15A few weeks after Shadi got out of prison, he began organizing protests again.
00:27:41This time, he took on a more prominent role.
00:27:45The protests began to take the government's office.
00:27:50I was a young person, I was a young person.
00:27:57I began to see that many of these protests and people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the people.
00:28:09I was a young person.
00:28:11Are you willing to see that?
00:28:13Are you ready to flee?
00:28:15For the start of this Pride, the critical decision made me and my siblings
00:28:25was that we are in every other side
00:28:29I think it's a good thing.
00:28:31I think it's a good thing.
00:28:33I think it's a good thing.
00:28:35I think it's a good thing.
00:28:39Nine months into the uprising,
00:28:41thousands of protesters had been arrested,
00:28:44and an estimated 3,000 had been killed.
00:28:48Facing international criticism,
00:28:51President Assad went on U.S. television
00:28:54and tried to distance himself
00:28:56from the actions of the security forces.
00:28:58Do you think that your forces crack down too hard?
00:29:04They are not my forces.
00:29:06They are military forces that belong to the government.
00:29:08Okay, but you're the government.
00:29:09I don't own them. I'm president.
00:29:10Okay.
00:29:11I don't own the country.
00:29:12So they're not my forces.
00:29:13No, but you have to give the order.
00:29:14No, no, no.
00:29:15We have in the constitution, in the law,
00:29:18the mission of the institution
00:29:20to protect the people,
00:29:21to stand against any chaos or any terrorists.
00:29:28The former security officials we spoke to
00:29:40said they would round people up
00:29:42from where they lived, worked, or even prayed.
00:29:45But the demonstrations continued to grow,
00:29:49as did the regime's wanted list.
00:29:52They were banned if they owned the city by one year.
00:30:09I went to the village of the village of the village
00:30:11Then I went to the village of the village
00:30:13To the village of the village of the village
00:30:17Which is a village of the village
00:30:19And here I discovered the house security
00:30:21And it became a very difficult
00:30:23The city of the village
00:30:25I was able to get with all the people
00:30:27Who are there
00:30:29There are machines
00:30:31There are people who work for the right-hand
00:30:33The most important part
00:30:35In every country, in every country
00:30:37There's no person who is in charge, and I'm a member of the team.
00:30:41The residents of the city of Dimashic
00:30:44come to me and give me some examples of who would come to the hotel.
00:30:47I'm responsible for this.
00:30:51I found a place where I didn't find myself.
00:30:55I saw a taxi.
00:30:57I realized that I was a good driver.
00:31:00There was a place to be mobile.
00:31:03There was a place to be a machine.
00:31:06It's hard to tell the people.
00:31:08When you're talking about your children,
00:31:10you're talking about your children.
00:31:12You're talking about your family.
00:31:14You're listening to your children.
00:31:16You're telling them to be safe and to be safe.
00:31:19This is the example we call them,
00:31:21that we're going to be living in a living room.
00:31:25Now, it's a lot of people asking me
00:31:27to press the button.
00:31:31It's a pressure to be in your home,
00:31:33There's a house of your house. Why wouldn't you stay there for a long time?
00:31:39So here came the parade, the parade, and the parade came to me.
00:31:44I mean, the people knew that we were living in this house.
00:31:50We have to get out of the house, of course.
00:31:53There's someone who is looking for us or something.
00:31:57I think I'm going to get out of the house, and I'm going to get out of the house.
00:32:02I saw that there was a bus, and I got to get out of the house.
00:32:07They went to the house, and they went to the house, and they went to the house.
00:32:12This is a strange way.
00:32:15You can feel that there's someone who is living with them from the house.
00:32:21They came to the house, and they took me and I and I.
00:32:27They came to the house, and my son.
00:32:32They came to the house, and they came to the house.
00:32:33They came to the house, and the house from the house.
00:32:39It was no one in the house.
00:32:44Or one of the things we had to do now, and that we had to go down to the house.
00:32:48I think we should be able to do this once again.
00:32:57In December 2011, the brothers say they were taken to Harasta,
00:33:02an air force intelligence branch on the outskirts of Damascus.
00:33:07Colonel Zane was second in command there at the time.
00:33:12In these days, the place that I was working on was very careful with his blood,
00:33:18and with the number of people.
00:33:21For example, we had a room for 8 meters by 10 meters,
00:33:27and we had 400 meters.
00:33:29So, the people of the people of the people,
00:33:34they didn't move on the earth, they didn't move on the earth.
00:33:38This is the room for the house, but here.
00:33:41Here are the exciting of those with us.
00:33:44These walls are normal Palest snaper during theorial painting.
00:33:49Can you walk up there?
00:33:52There is such a right to have a space.
00:33:56Here are the objects.
00:33:57These walls.
00:33:59There are plenty of stadiums.
00:34:02Well, these walls.
00:34:05And there are those generals.
00:34:06You can stand there for them.
00:34:08and it can be used for months or years for this place.
00:34:18I don't have any chance to put the door on one side.
00:34:22This is a great deal.
00:34:26In the first few days,
00:34:29I got a great deal for the real estate.
00:34:33So I told him that Harun had been in prison.
00:34:38And he said,
00:34:41I don't have any time,
00:34:45but I don't have any chance to live here.
00:34:50I remember that they were sleeping in the house,
00:34:53and they were sleeping in the house.
00:34:56They were sleeping in the house.
00:34:59Of course, the rate of the house was 40 years old.
00:35:11Every day,
00:35:13it happened to people who were sick.
00:35:16So I started a lot with diseases,
00:35:20because of the disease,
00:35:22because of the disease,
00:35:24so we had less oxygen.
00:35:26So it could be possible
00:35:27that in the morning,
00:35:28we were sitting here
00:35:29or sitting there
00:35:30and doing something that's not extraordinary.
00:35:34It's not something that's natural.
00:35:37After that,
00:35:38it became a real disease.
00:35:43Let's see where we are.
00:35:45Here.
00:35:46Here.
00:35:47Cheers,
00:35:50your mom and she knew all.
00:35:54He says,
00:35:55oh,
00:35:56see,
00:35:57all you wait for me,
00:35:59you with your doesn't know if you have taken care.
00:36:01We, you know.
00:36:02Beаем'
00:36:16Without eating, without eating, without eating, without eating, without eating, before eating.
00:36:20Here it's here with the escort.
00:36:26There was a place in the middle of my life.
00:36:30We could hear it.
00:36:36There's no one who can hear it.
00:36:38There's no one who doesn't know what to do.
00:36:40I didn't see anything in my head.
00:36:42I didn't see anything in my head.
00:36:43You didn't see any assault or not taking away your head.
00:36:46Do you want to get your head to the front of you?
00:36:49In the middle of my head, I had to work in my head.
00:36:51I was doing my head.
00:36:52I was doing it.
00:36:53I was doing it.
00:36:55I was doing it.
00:36:58I was doing it in my head.
00:37:00But it was a lot of research.
00:37:03You were doing it higher than people who are working in the right hand.
00:37:06Yes, I was doing it in the other direction.
00:37:09After the director.
00:37:11What did you do?
00:37:12No, I didn't think you were able to think about it.
00:37:14No, I didn't think you were able to think about it.
00:37:19What do you think, Sarah?
00:37:21If you were to be able to make a decision,
00:37:25you would be able to make a decision.
00:37:34I think every person has a spirit.
00:37:38A spirit, a spirit, a spirit.
00:37:42You always fight with someone.
00:37:45One will make you back to the mind and the mind.
00:37:50One will make you back to the mind and the mind.
00:37:54You are a spirit.
00:37:56Don't be scared.
00:37:58You will die.
00:38:02Warrant Officer Abbas told us about his first day of training
00:38:06at Air Force Intelligence as a young recruit.
00:38:09They took us to Syria.
00:38:12They took us to Syria.
00:38:14When we came back from Air Force,
00:38:16they came from two to look at us.
00:38:19Every one of them was stuck with us.
00:38:21And they hit us.
00:38:23They hit us.
00:38:24They hit us.
00:38:25They hit us.
00:38:26They told us,
00:38:28they were very weak.
00:38:31They took us to our feet.
00:38:32They took us to our feet.
00:38:34They took us to our feet.
00:38:36Of course, this investigation is known for all of Syria.
00:38:39There is a self-assessment in order to break your eyes.
00:38:42Why?
00:38:43What did you do?
00:38:44What did you do?
00:38:45First of all,
00:38:46you forget the government that you live in.
00:38:49The most important thing
00:38:52is the burden of the government that came to us.
00:38:55In the future,
00:38:57they don't say no.
00:38:59They don't say no.
00:39:01They don't say no.
00:39:02They don't say no.
00:39:03They don't say no.
00:39:04That's the difference.
00:39:05We love the whole bureaucracy.
00:39:19Before joining the military,
00:39:21Hasan grew up in a rural part of Syria
00:39:24where opportunities were scarce.
00:39:26were scarce. He told us that he and his classmates were taught that the Asads were the saviors
00:39:33of Syria.
00:39:56He was the 9th. He gave me the 9th. He gave me the 9th.
00:40:01I remember the group of the group.
00:40:04They were the 1st and the 1st. They were the 1st. They were the 1st. They were the 1st.
00:40:07They were the 1st. They were the 1st. They were the 1st.
00:40:14We had a job at the 18th.
00:40:17I started working on the 18th.
00:40:21We loved the Jewish people. We had to be able to teach them to do this.
00:40:26They were able to build a weapon in any place.
00:40:31They were able to kill us and kill us here in Bukus,
00:40:35so we could see if we were able to kill them.
00:40:37I killed Bukus here and I didn't do anything.
00:40:40I stopped.
00:40:42I said, okay, let's go here.
00:40:44After 60-65 days, I was forced to kill Sayidnaya,
00:40:48the military.
00:40:50Over the course of the war,
00:40:52Sayidnaya became the most infamous of Syria's prisons.
00:40:57Built in the 1980s, it had two main buildings.
00:41:01One housed soldiers who were considered traitors.
00:41:05The other was largely for anyone who opposed the regime.
00:41:14Warrant officer Osama was the chief of staff
00:41:17to the head of Sayidnaya prison.
00:41:26The police were talking about many buildings,
00:41:28but they were fairly complex buildings,
00:41:29but they outplayed cities.
00:41:31They were more than 30 buildings.
00:41:32They weren't above 30 buildings.
00:41:34If it was like a man,
00:41:35you can see theiorals of the habituania.
00:41:37They were looking for a man before?
00:41:39If they taught a man,
00:41:40or used to train a man?
00:41:41There's nothing else.
00:41:42No, there's nothing else.
00:41:43Everything is in the middle of the house.
00:41:44They're all in the middle of the house.
00:41:51We didn't have any other family members.
00:41:53We didn't have any other family members.
00:41:56The phone was available.
00:41:57The television was available.
00:41:58The phone was available.
00:41:59We were available to anyone who was available.
00:42:02We had a family life.
00:42:04We were in the world.
00:42:06Yes, exactly.
00:42:11By April 2012,
00:42:16Shadi and Hadi had been detained
00:42:18by Air Force Intelligence for four months.
00:42:22They hired us in the morning
00:42:24and went to the front of the house.
00:42:28We came a big car.
00:42:31It's called the rice train.
00:42:34It's called the rice train.
00:42:35It's like the rice train.
00:42:37It's called the rice train.
00:42:39It's called the rice train.
00:42:41It's called the rice train.
00:42:42It's called the rice train.
00:42:44When we came to the house,
00:42:45it was all over the house.
00:42:46It was one of the dreams.
00:42:47We were able to take it in.
00:42:48Even if there was no one who knew it.
00:42:50It was one of the ones in this area.
00:42:51When we went to the hotel,
00:42:52we saw the hotel.
00:42:53It was...
00:42:55The hotel was the sound.
00:42:56We thought the silence.
00:42:57It was the sound.
00:42:58It was the sound.
00:42:59It wasn't this.
00:43:00Everything was the noise.
00:43:01It didn't live except for an apartment.
00:43:02We had not even the cell.
00:43:04It was the daughter's son.
00:43:05How do you think there's a dream in the inside of a place where you die and you die?
00:43:14Every person in our community thinks that there's no way to escape.
00:43:19This is the end of my life.
00:43:29What were the information that came to you about when you came to the village?
00:43:34There were ways to find a way to turn around and take out theological force of the government like that.
00:43:39One of them came to the government and was free to live!
00:43:42The people came to the network from the state of the city,
00:43:46and who would have foams to work with the government?
00:43:47I was interested in the case of the people in the nation .
00:43:49Why are the people working with them?
00:43:51Why are they working in the nation?
00:43:52They're working with them in the national power of the country.
00:43:54They're working with them in their home, and in their strength.
00:43:56We're working with them in our power.
00:43:58We're starting to work with them in our power.
00:43:59They're laying on them in a power.
00:44:00They're referring to every power.
00:44:01The bomb when you're coming to the country does not know why you're using it.
00:44:03They're corrupt.
00:44:05They're corrupt.
00:44:07They're corrupt.
00:44:09They're corrupt.
00:44:11They're corrupt.
00:44:14They're corrupt.
00:44:16They're corrupt.
00:44:21At this point,
00:44:23I don't have any feelings
00:44:27about the time or the place.
00:44:32No one has ever happened.
00:44:35Nothing happened…
00:44:37ever.
00:44:42Did you look at them?
00:44:45Do you see them?
00:44:46Do you see them before you shoot them?
00:44:49They were one of them.
00:44:52They were talking about one of our bodies.
00:44:56I'm a man of a man.
00:44:59Of course, I had to kill myself.
00:45:01I think that before I hit my gun,
00:45:05but today I didn't have a look at the prison.
00:45:11Officer Osama, the chief of staff to the head of the prison,
00:45:15told us that he often tried to stop guards from torturing prisoners.
00:45:20Did you know that he was in the hospital?
00:45:23Even if you want to stop at the hospital,
00:45:30you can do this if you want to stop guards from 5 minutes.
00:45:33So, I'm going to be able to do this.
00:45:36What do you think is that you didn't have a word in the prison?
00:45:40No, it was a word, but it was time to be alive.
00:45:42I was going to say that this is not working,
00:45:45but I'm going to do it.
00:45:47Do you think this is a good system?
00:45:49It's not a good system.
00:45:51What do I say to you?
00:45:53Do you think there was a normal situation?
00:45:57It's possible.
00:45:59Yes, it's possible.
00:46:05We've had time for hours,
00:46:07but we don't feel like we're feeling the amount of pressure.
00:46:11We didn't feel the amount of pressure.
00:46:13We didn't feel the sound of the door,
00:46:15but we didn't feel that we could do it after 4 hours.
00:46:18We felt like we were feeling the same way.
00:46:21I was like,
00:46:22I was like,
00:46:23I'm like,
00:46:24I'm like,
00:46:25I'm like,
00:46:26I'm like,
00:46:27I'm like,
00:46:28where did we go?
00:46:29Where did we go?
00:46:30So,
00:46:31I felt like a person.
00:46:33But when I realized,
00:46:35I got a lot of pressure on my side,
00:46:37we were in the same room.
00:46:39The front door is now.
00:46:40The front door is too much.
00:46:41Back to the front door is too much.
00:46:42But we're standing in terms of the rain.
00:46:47This looks like the rain emerging.
00:46:48This is a beautiful building.
00:46:49This is a wonderful tree.
00:46:50This is a beautiful tree.
00:46:51This is a beautiful tree.
00:46:52This is a totally beautiful tree.
00:46:53This is the sun.
00:46:56It's the sun.
00:47:01This is 4.
00:47:03This is 5.
00:47:05This is 6.
00:47:08Now, this is how it is.
00:47:11This is the room.
00:47:15This is our room.
00:47:18We are in it.
00:47:20This is the room.
00:47:23It's not a bad thing.
00:47:26It's a bad thing.
00:47:28It's a bad thing to do with someone.
00:47:32It's not a bad thing.
00:47:34It's a bad thing.
00:47:36I'm just a bad thing.
00:47:38I'm just a bad thing.
00:47:40The person who's eating is eating his food,
00:47:45and he's a bad thing.
00:47:47So, he's a bad thing.
00:47:50He's a bad thing.
00:47:51I'm good.
00:47:52He's a bad thing.
00:47:53I'm more than he is.
00:47:54He's a bad thing.
00:47:55He's a bad thing.
00:47:56He's a bad thing.
00:47:57He's a bad thing.
00:47:59I'm more than that.
00:48:01I try to eat the food and he won't eat it.
00:48:07So this is the relationship between them and them.
00:48:11I don't like anyone else to die with it.
00:48:15Especially during the first time of the investigation.
00:48:27When they came to the hospital, they came to the hospital.
00:48:32And of course,
00:48:36they came to the hospital.
00:48:38When I came to the hospital,
00:48:40they came to the hospital.
00:48:42They came to the hospital.
00:48:44They were in the hospital.
00:48:46I felt like I was in the hospital.
00:48:48I felt like I was in the hospital.
00:48:50There were more soldiers like this.
00:48:52In all the facilities,
00:48:54they were using them.
00:48:56They felt that there was a mental health
00:48:58to the human being.
00:49:02You don't have anything.
00:49:06It was a very simple
00:49:08that they came to the hospital.
00:49:10They came to the hospital and said,
00:49:12When I was 20 years old, I was going to take my army and stop at Babelmas.
00:49:19And he said that I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die.
00:49:24That I'm going to be here for you, God.
00:49:35This is how I put my food in my food.
00:49:38Of course, I was going to eat all the food in front of me.
00:49:46The food, the food, the food and the food.
00:49:52The food is either the food for a person, three or four of them,
00:49:56or the amount of food, or the amount of food.
00:50:01After a month or three months, you understand the routine.
00:50:06You can see the situation, you can see it in front of you.
00:50:13He comes to Burgon, and he is not alone.
00:50:18You can imagine George's or Grisby.
00:50:24You can do the way to eat the food.
00:50:27We bring the food to the food, and the food to the food,
00:50:31We're going to do this and we're going to do this and we're going to do this and it's going to be a scope for the world.
00:50:37So it's okay.
00:50:39I'm going to do this in a different way.
00:50:43No, no, no, I mean.
00:50:45I was from the early days, it was a very good meal.
00:50:48But now I'm not going to do a lot of work.
00:51:01This is Hsieh, let's see if there are a lot of eyes.
00:51:13This is the building of the village.
00:51:16This is the building of the village.
00:51:18This is the building of the village.
00:51:23This is the building of the village.
00:51:26This is the way home to their village of village village.
00:51:39This building is known as hebdom.
00:51:442015-2015.
00:51:46Hsieh asking for work will not be good for your realization
00:51:49but to theative into the gonechmatch.
00:51:53I'm not sure what's going on.
00:51:54I'm not sure what's going on.
00:51:56I'm not sure what's going on.
00:52:01At the point of view, we didn't know what's going on.
00:52:05He was going to go out of prison.
00:52:07He was going to be dead.
00:52:11He was going to have a kill for a night or a night.
00:52:15He was going to tell them that I killed someone and someone.
00:52:20So they were going to be looking for a murder.
00:52:22There is no question or answer, but if you ask them to come back to prison,
00:52:28after a month or two, you remember the law.
00:52:34Inmates were quickly and secretly convicted in military field courts,
00:52:39with no lawyers or right to appeal.
00:52:43The trials often ended with death sentences,
00:52:47signed off on behalf of President Assad himself.
00:52:52When pressed in public, Assad insisted the killings were lawful.
00:52:57Do you know what goes on in that prison? Have you been there?
00:53:00No, I haven't been. I've been in the presidential palace, but not in the prison.
00:53:04First of all, execution is part of the Syrian law.
00:53:06If the Syrian government or institution wants to do it, they can make it legally,
00:53:09because it's been there for decades.
00:53:11Secret trials, no lawyers?
00:53:13Why do they need it if they can make it legally? They don't need anything secret.
00:53:16Is that legal in your country?
00:53:17Yeah, yeah, of course it's legal. For decades in the dependence.
00:53:20Execution according to the law after trial is a legal action.
00:53:25Some days later, I went to my full system.
00:53:27I was down to 4 p.m.
00:53:30At the morning, I was left here.
00:53:32I was going to do that.
00:53:34I'm in the morning, if I was here.
00:53:35I was able to submit them theidel Lane.
00:53:37After our family, we were there
00:53:42We were going to stop the car
00:53:48And we were going to stop the car
00:53:50Who would need to take the car
00:53:52We were going to stop the car
00:53:55We were going to stop the car
00:53:57We had to wait for the car
00:54:00The car was going on an hour
00:54:02And the car was not going on
00:54:04They said to him to take care of me
00:54:07I had to put my hand on the ground and put it in the ground.
00:54:13It was a little bit more than that.
00:54:15He came to a person who was more than me and said to him,
00:54:18I'm going to get you.
00:54:23He said to me, he said to me,
00:54:25I'm going to give you a little more.
00:54:30He said to me, he didn't say anything.
00:54:37An investigation by Amnesty International found that in the first four years of the
00:54:47uprising, up to 13,000 detainees were executed inside Naya prison.
00:54:57The bodies of executed detainees, along with those who died from torture or disease, were
00:55:03taken to military hospitals where their deaths were registered.
00:55:21Officer Kamal was an army nurse who worked in a hospital morgue until the final days of
00:55:26the regime.
00:55:27The majority of the bodies were trapped in their own forms and is a common polypathy.
00:55:33They were trapped in their own forms.
00:55:38They had no food or drink.
00:55:40Most of them were diagnosed with skin hairs and skin skin, and the skin is clean.
00:55:47Most of them were the worst.
00:55:51His description matches a trove of photographs smuggled out of Syria in 2013 that show nearly
00:56:027,000 detainees who died in government custody.
00:56:21Over a hundred detainee death certificates we reviewed show the same cause of death—heart and respiratory failure—even in cases where we found evidence the inmates were tortured.
00:56:44Are you not aware of the cause of death?
00:56:49We are not aware of the cause of death.
00:56:53You have a clash that you can write about it, only for other people.
00:56:58You are not aware of the clash that you write about.
00:57:02You say that the effects of the facts are not enough.
00:57:09There is no one who can write about the shihad.
00:57:13I believe, that if we were to die, that we are not aware of that.
00:57:20We used to behave in a situation like this.
00:57:23We used to sit and sit and die by the sides of our eyes and the others.
00:57:25We used to stay in your life.
00:57:27Our lives were kept from death to the source of death.
00:57:30It shaped the hate and the death of the people we do in life.
00:57:33We usually say that I would never die with others, or no one places.
00:57:37So I was connected with him to how I want to go.
00:57:43Of course, the most important things will happen.
00:57:46I remember that, for example, my mother's birthday...
00:57:49...it will become...
00:57:53...it is a situation of a failure.
00:58:01Tens of thousands of people have disappeared in Syria's jails.
00:58:05Many were tortured to death.
00:58:07The Syrian government has denied claims of abuse.
00:58:10We don't have torture policy in Syria.
00:58:13Why do you use the torture for?
00:58:15Human rights organisations estimate that tens of thousands of people...
00:58:19...have disappeared since the Syrian conflict began.
00:58:22Most have been taken from the streets by government security agents...
00:58:26...and they're known as the disappeared.
00:58:29The numbers are simply striking.
00:58:31We don't know what happened to them, if they are still in prison...
00:58:34...if they have been killed.
00:58:38The people who entered the streets were safe...
00:58:41...and they were still lost.
00:58:43We can find them.
00:58:44It's difficult.
00:58:46It's difficult.
00:58:49It's difficult.
00:58:50It's difficult.
00:58:51So every day of the streets...
00:58:53...I rode with a
00:59:02extraordinary
00:59:03by my friends...
00:59:05...I would feel that...
00:59:06...I would make them think that...
00:59:07...you were outups based on the streets.
00:59:08That ismog on us by perché.
00:59:09which was the first step of the belief that there is still a time to live a new life, and do something else, and I'm going to do it.
00:59:28By 2019, Asad's forces had largely put down the uprising.
00:59:33Shadi and Hadi had spent years being transferred from prison to prison, and were back at Sayidnaya.
00:59:42One day that summer, they were summoned to see a judge.
00:59:47I went to Adi, and he was in his place.
00:59:51I discovered that this day was the first day of the war.
00:59:55It was in this year.
00:59:58I put chocolate.
01:00:01I said to him,
01:00:03I said to him,
01:00:05You have to return to a good citizen from these things.
01:00:15I said to him,
01:00:16I'll take you now.
01:00:18I left you.
01:00:21I gave you a chocolate.
01:00:24I left.
01:00:26I said to him,
01:00:28I left myself.
01:00:29I thought,
01:00:31What happened?
01:00:33I said to him,
01:00:35I left me.
01:00:36We killed him.
01:00:37We had to return him to the first place.
01:00:39We reached out.
01:00:40We reached out to the first decision of the war.
01:00:43I think that's the same thing happened.
01:00:55How did you feel when I got out?
01:00:59I was happy that I got out.
01:01:02But there was a lot of fear about what I saw when I got out.
01:01:09I got out of my prison
01:01:13and I got out of my prison.
01:01:18People always feel that there's a lot of fear.
01:01:22And I know them.
01:01:25I always feel that there's a lot of fear.
01:01:30That you're the reason why we got out.
01:01:37These people are the people of the village.
01:01:42I was the people of the village.
01:01:47The other person who was waiting for his son to come out,
01:01:54he doesn't know anything about them.
01:01:56You're not good for me.
01:02:00I wasn't satisfied here.
01:02:01I wasn't satisfied here.
01:02:03I was satisfied in this place.
01:02:06At that time, I wasn't satisfied here.
01:02:09I was satisfied with them.
01:02:11Because there were...
01:02:13There was a lot of people who knew that they were in the middle of the war, and they knew that they died under the pain.
01:02:34I'll take a break.
01:02:43After his release,
01:03:11Shadi went into exile in Turkey.
01:03:16In 2021, the brothers joined a Syrian human rights organization,
01:03:21investigating crimes committed by the regime.
01:03:41I was working for 10 years.
01:03:45We're working on the wrong people,
01:03:48about the nationalities.
01:03:50If we were to know about the situation,
01:03:52we started a little bit.
01:03:54I was in the air.
01:03:57I was in a while and I got all the people in the air.
01:04:01I was in a while and I got all the people in the air.
01:04:05I was in a very big way.
01:04:07I was in a while and I was in a while.
01:04:12And now your brother are still alive?
01:04:16Yes, I'm alive. But I don't know why.
01:04:19We have to see the system,
01:04:22because the system's not being considered.
01:04:25We have to see the system's
01:04:26position of the system.
01:04:27We don't have any agenda.
01:04:29We have any agenda.
01:04:30This is a agenda.
01:04:32It's a matter of time.
01:04:34This is a matter of time.
01:04:35The system's in any moment
01:04:37or any agreement
01:04:39can be able to change the system.
01:04:41And it will allow the people to make it
01:04:45to know how it is going to happen.
01:04:48There's no one where you can get a car that they can get there.
01:04:53You can get a car in there.
01:04:55You can get him a car to get cars, and a car in a local city.
01:04:58You see a cool young man here.
01:05:02There's an unusual avenue here.
01:05:04So, here there's an avenue that is built.
01:05:05That's the right idea.
01:05:07Yusuf
01:05:32Yusuf worked for the city of Damascus
01:05:35as a bulldozer driver.
01:05:37He's allowed us to use his real name.
01:05:40He says that a few months into the uprising,
01:05:43an intelligence officer ordered him to take his bulldozer
01:05:47to Najha Cemetery on the outskirts of the city.
01:06:05He was following the battle.
01:06:07He was following the battle.
01:06:09I left the battle.
01:06:11He told me to save the battle
01:06:15at 15-15,
01:06:17The only thing is the only thing is the only thing.
01:06:27The car was 180.
01:06:32After that, there were a big car.
01:06:35There was a car in the car.
01:06:38It was a big car.
01:06:39They were coming from the car.
01:06:42I knew the car was coming from the car.
01:06:45When they came up and saw them, they died.
01:06:49They died.
01:06:50They died and died.
01:06:53I think it was almost every week,
01:06:56two or three days.
01:06:58They died.
01:07:02Officer Kamal told us
01:07:04the dead bodies were piling up in the morgue
01:07:07at the military hospital where he worked.
01:07:10He says the security forces took him
01:07:13some of his colleagues to several locations,
01:07:16including Najha Cemetery.
01:07:43How was the situation?
01:07:47I don't want to tell you,
01:07:48I want to tell you,
01:07:49if my son was with them,
01:07:51I didn't know them.
01:07:53There was a number of people in front of me.
01:07:58Where did they write?
01:08:00They wrote about their own family,
01:08:02their own family,
01:08:04their own family.
01:08:06and it was a lot of people that wanted to add
01:08:08to their families.
01:08:10The first number was a number of people
01:08:11that had a number of people
01:08:13who were able to draw their own family.
01:08:18They learned these two parts,
01:08:19the number of them.
01:08:20One at the very beginning
01:08:21is the number of them.
01:08:22The number was a number of them.
01:08:24And in the number of them,
01:08:25the number was the number of them.
01:08:27One of them was the number of them.
01:08:29The law knows that it is used to be sana,
01:08:32and it is a place where it is and it is possible.
01:08:38So this is a place where it is done.
01:08:40The system may be able to get an access to the courtry,
01:08:45and the Nowhere's gonna be detected are not yet going to be a mindset.
01:08:50The system may become a condition of an inclusive sentence,
01:08:54but this is a work of a cabinet,
01:08:55It's not a human being.
01:09:01I was able to bring it to the dead and bring it to the dead.
01:09:07I wanted to go to the earth as it was.
01:09:10When I came back to the earth,
01:09:13I would like to go to the temple and build a local city.
01:09:16I would like to protect the community from the local cities.
01:09:19Yusuf says he stopped working for the government in 2013 and later fled Syria.
01:09:30He's given testimony about the mass graves at Najha Cemetery and elsewhere to the U.S.
01:09:35Congress.
01:09:36We've been told by human rights investigators that there are around 130 suspected mass graves
01:10:03across parts of Syria, once controlled by the regime, and new ones are still being found.
01:10:11Officer Kamal gave us the location of a previously unknown site in an area called Ma'arune, in
01:10:17a military zone between Damascus and Saydnaya.
01:10:22He says he went there once, in 2014.
01:10:25We've obtained satellite imagery of the location, and we've been able to see the location
01:10:55and had it independently analyzed.
01:10:59This is what it looked like before the protests began.
01:11:04And this image, from 2012, shows that several large pits appeared in the first 18 months of
01:11:10the uprising.
01:11:14Officer Kamal agreed to take one of our colleagues to Ma'arune to film the site.
01:11:18We also spoke to a truck driver who told us he transported more than 3,000 bodies there over
01:11:39a period of eight months.
01:11:43With so many suspected grave sites across Syria, it could take years to investigate them all.
01:11:52There are 10,000 of the activists who have discovered it, and no one knows what they are.
01:11:58I want you to do 10,000 of the attempts to make decisions for me to know who it is and who
01:12:05it is.
01:12:06I want you to do 10,000 of the attempts to make decisions for me.
01:12:13I can't imagine that there are people who have been found out of her, and it's not
01:12:19known as her name, and it may be given to her forever.
01:12:24Of course, yes.
01:12:27foreign
01:12:34what does it look like when you look at me?
01:12:40this is not spoken, I have stopped on my daughter
01:12:44I don't have to look at her
01:12:48why?
01:12:50You feel like you're a little scared.
01:12:54You're a little scared.
01:12:56You're a little scared.
01:12:58You're a little scared.
01:13:00We're out of our bodies.
01:13:02We're out of our bodies.
01:13:04They're like, we're going to kill our brains.
01:13:06We're going to kill our brains.
01:13:08We're going to work like the government.
01:13:10We're going to kill our brains.
01:13:14Hossam, the prison guard,
01:13:17defected at the end of 2012
01:13:19and fled Syria.
01:13:21Since then,
01:13:23he's given testimony and information
01:13:26to human rights investigators
01:13:28about what happened at Seydnaya prison.
01:13:40We're going to kill them
01:13:42and we're going to kill them.
01:13:44If you remember a lot of people
01:13:47who were killed,
01:13:48if you were to kill them,
01:13:50what do you want to tell them?
01:13:52Or what do you want to tell them?
01:13:56I just want to tell them
01:13:58that any person or any person
01:14:00who was killed,
01:14:01just tell them why.
01:14:02What's the reason?
01:14:06He's feeling the only one
01:14:08about the parents and the parents
01:14:10and their son
01:14:12and this one
01:14:13could be his feelings to come
01:14:14and possibly to let them
01:14:15and be able to cross into Syria
01:14:16or any other person.
01:14:20I'm still feeling a lot,
01:14:22too.
01:14:23I'm feeling a lot of young people
01:14:24who taught me
01:14:25to contact my parents
01:14:26and make my family
01:14:27and so I'm not hoping.
01:14:31You're doing what for us?
01:14:33What did you do?
01:14:34No.
01:14:35And I want to police all of them
01:14:36as they said,
01:14:38Even when I was talking to my parents, I didn't speak to them all.
01:14:46I'm going to give you something to me.
01:14:49But I don't feel like you're talking about it.
01:14:56What can you think of the good news is that
01:15:00in the first year in the war, they left it and left it.
01:15:03If they left it, they left it and left it.
01:15:08Or they left it and left it.
01:15:10So this would be a person.
01:15:13I can't believe that we can't take a final decision
01:15:18to make the responsibility of the government's decision.
01:15:24I've been trying to make the decision.
01:15:27It's very dangerous.
01:15:28Colonel Zain, second-in-command at Harasta Intelligence branch,
01:15:34has been living in hiding since leaving Syria.
01:15:38He's provided information to human rights investigators,
01:15:42but insists he had no direct involvement in torture or killing.
01:15:46We've talked to people from different people.
01:15:50And they say, I'm not going to enter.
01:15:51So who?
01:15:52Who should have to do it?
01:15:54Every person who shares the murder of the rebels,
01:15:58he doesn't have to do it.
01:16:00You don't think you should have to do it.
01:16:02I'm in a situation where I'm ready for the trial.
01:16:06In a situation where I'm ready for the trial,
01:16:07I'm ready for the trial.
01:16:09Is there anything you want to tell people
01:16:14who were in the состояниi?
01:16:20What we talked about?
01:16:23It's not possible to contribute to the trial.
01:16:29Something helps others with their help.
01:16:31In 2013, Osama's boss, the head of Seydnaya prison, was captured and killed by Syrian rebels.
01:16:43Shortly afterwards, Osama fled the country.
01:16:47He went on to help human rights groups, gathering evidence of the atrocities that took place in Seydnaya.
01:16:54Is it possible?
01:17:01I'm proud of what I've worked with.
01:17:06Sometimes when we talk to the people who are engaged,
01:17:10most of the things they want is to be a part of the responsibility.
01:17:15Yes.
01:17:15They want people to know that you were with you, you were with us, you were with us, you were with us, you were with us, you were with us.
01:17:22And your word doesn't have a lot of responsibility.
01:17:27I can't believe it.
01:17:31I don't believe it.
01:17:33I don't believe it is to provide a way to friends, stories or to make it a process or to get so involved with any energies.
01:17:42There are many people who don't receive the advice.
01:17:45I don't know that.
01:17:48But I tell you what you believe and what happened.
01:17:51Officer Kamal is still in Syria.
01:18:14After the regime fell, he gave his account of what happened at the hospital and the mass graves
01:18:20to the new government.
01:18:22Four of his former colleagues, as well as multiple detainees, accuse him of abusing prisoners.
01:18:29He denies this.
01:18:32I want to say something I want to defend.
01:18:37If I want to say something, I don't care about you.
01:18:41I don't care about you.
01:18:43I don't care about you.
01:18:45If you're a citizen, you're going to be a citizen, you're going to be a citizen.
01:18:52I'm a citizen.
01:18:54I don't care about you.
01:18:55If you're a citizen, you don't have to go to work.
01:18:58You're going to go to work because it's a work for the government to support the government.
01:19:04Can the government be able to stay in the workplace? No
01:19:08The president is not going to be able to stay in the workplace
01:19:10What was the job that he was able to do in a way or another?
01:19:14He was able to stay in this work
01:19:16And like any person who was able to stay in the workplace
01:20:04It's very important to me, and many of the previous people have shared with me.
01:20:23There's someone who lives in this life, but he's lost.
01:20:30we have no only relationship with our friends.
01:20:33This is the most honest kind of understanding.
01:20:40I'm afraid of all the people who were not being misbehaved
01:20:44or the human being to talk to us.
01:20:52The large ones who had been in the door
01:20:55in the form of the Syrian people,
01:20:56they were burning, they didn't get any idea.
01:21:00and left the people to take his attention to his attention.
01:21:06He's facing his mission.
01:21:08What are you doing?
01:21:10I'm talking about 10 people.
01:21:13OK.
01:21:14OK.
01:21:15OK.
01:21:16OK.
01:21:17OK.
01:21:18OK.
01:21:19OK.
01:21:20OK.
01:21:21OK.
01:21:22OK.
01:21:23We're going to get you out of the way.
01:21:28I don't know how we can deal with this situation or how we want to deal with our spirits and our country.
01:21:35We are living with the evil and the evil, and the evil and the evil.
01:21:41It's hard to decide who is capable of and who is capable of.
01:21:48Every person has a special one.
01:21:52Every person has a story.
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