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Opposition MPs raised slogans and walkout of the Rajya Sabha on Thursday as Prime Minister Narendra Modi replied to a discussion on the Motion of Thanks to the President's address.
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00:00Opposition walking out, the Prime Minister targeting the Gandhi-Nehru family.
00:05Who won this round? Prime Minister Modi or the opposition?
00:08Was the leader of the opposition, Rahul Gandhi, silenced in the Lok Sabha?
00:12Does the opposition decision to walk out, give a walkover for the Prime Minister?
00:17Joining me now in our face-off tonight, Jyothi Mani Seneng Malai is Lok Sabha MP Congress.
00:22And Dr. Sudhanshu Trivedi is MP Rajasabha, National Spokesperson of the BJP.
00:27I want to come to you Sudhanshu Ji because we just heard the Prime Minister at some length.
00:31An attack on Nehru. Jawaharlal Nehru, Sudhanshu Trivedi died in 1964.
00:37We are now in 2026. That's 62 years later.
00:41What is the need in every speech for the Prime Minister to invoke Jawaharlal Nehru?
00:46It almost seems as if Nehru obsession has not gone away.
00:50Talk about issues of today rather than talk about what Nehru did or didn't do in the 1950s and 60s.
00:57Rajasabha, I would like to further expand your stance.
01:05It's not that Jawaharlal Nehru died in 1964.
01:08I would like to go further back.
01:10Jawaharlal Nehru was party president in 1930.
01:14And Motilal Nehru was party president in 1920.
01:16And still what is the need of Congress party sticking to their family?
01:21After one century, the high command of the Congress party is still the same family.
01:28So you are sticking to that, not we are sticking to that.
01:30And on the other side, whenever you try to speak, the problem is, the impact of Nehru Gandhi family is so vast, so all-pervading in the Indian politics, that whatever you will pick up,
01:44you will pick up the issue of Sardar Patel, the Nehru will emerge, you will pick up the issue of Ram Mandir, Nehru will emerge, you will pick up the issue of Subhash Chandrabos, Nehru will emerge, you will pick up the issue of Somnath, Nehru will emerge, you will pick up the issue of Nehruvian model, Nehru will emerge.
02:01And one thing I would like to ask through your program. Congress officially abandoned the Nehru's social economic model. The socialist economical Nehruvian model was dismantled and destroyed in 1992 along with the Bawri structure. But why they are not ready to accept today? Yes, that model was wrong. No, no, no, no. That was right.
02:25So the problem is with them, not with us. They keep on harping on the issues which Nehruji has raised. And again, I would like to say, if you want to put up the issue of Jader Nirwane's non-published book through an unverified source, because you know that on the floor of the house, the media report is not considered a substantive source.
02:46And then you are saying that this is your right. No. Politically speaking, we would have allowed Rahul Gandhi to speak because whenever he speaks, he gives a point in favor of Bharati Janta Party.
02:59But it was not the issue of political scoring a point. It was an issue of constitutional validity and following the procedure in strict technical adherence, which was not there.
03:09And if you want to make up the issue, Rajdeepji, I have mentioned today that when you are trying to say like this on 19 November 1962, Jawalal Nehruji has written a letter to Kennedy that I want a squadron of B-2 bombers and we are not having pilot.
03:25You give the pilot, you give the technicians, you give the radar persons and you take the command in a way.
03:30And when B-K Nehru, who was the ambassador of India in America and who was also the nephew of Jawala Nirwani,
03:40Chacha ji's actually is that, he wrote in his book, Nice Guys Finished Second.
03:46In that book, he wrote that when I was going to give this letter, I was so ashamed.
03:52I was so ashamed when he was giving to the advisor of the then president of America.
03:56When I came back in the car, I couldn't stop prohibiting.
03:59So, if you question Prime Minister Modi and the government, what they have done or not done vis-a-vis China, you will rake 1962 up.
04:08Am I correct?
04:09For you, Jawaharlal Nehru still haunts you.
04:12That somewhere you believe, every time Congress rakes up an issue linked to national security, you will then bring up 1962 and Jawaharlal Nehru.
04:25Well, just one thing.
04:26It's not Nehru haunts us.
04:29It is Nehru haunts Congress.
04:31We rake up the issues of those Congress leaders.
04:34Subhash Chandbos was Congress leader.
04:36Congress doesn't want to associate with them.
04:39Sardar Patel was Congress leader.
04:41They doesn't want to associate with them.
04:43Prime Minister Modi has given Bharat Rajiv to Prala Mukherjee.
04:47He was a Congress leader.
04:48They do not want to associate with them.
04:50He has given Bharat Rajiv to Madhav Mohanmal.
04:53He was Congress leader.
04:54You do not want to attach with them.
04:57Even Prime Minister has given Padma Award to Tarun Gogoi, to S.C. Zameer, to P.V. Narasimarao, who was the Congress leader.
05:07The problem is that the Nehru family haunts to the Congress.
05:11And it is creating a haunting situation for them.
05:14They are not ready to look at the achievement of any other person, any other Prime Minister, any other leader in their party except the family.
05:22So family is haunting their mindset, not ours.
05:25I have heard you patiently.
05:28Jyoti Mani, respond to what you are hearing.
05:30According to the BJP, the Prime Minister raises Jawaharlal Nehru Indira Gandhi because you are still haunted.
05:37The Congress is haunted by Nehru Gandhi legacy, which is why you have Rahul Gandhi as your leader.
05:42And therefore, the Prime Minister, according to them, is only justified in targeting you.
05:48Hope, Ajudevji, you will give the same uninterrupted time to me as well.
05:57See, why should we are haunted by Nehruji?
06:02Because the Gandhi family sacrificed even their lives for the country.
06:07Nehruji spent majority of his life in jail,
06:10while the current BJP's forefathers actually nailed down in front of British and become a traitor to this country.
06:18Second thing, what is the real issue today?
06:21The real issue is, there is an Indo-American trade deal.
06:27In the trade deal, it was announced by the US President,
06:31where Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
06:33without his ministerial colleagues knowing,
06:40sold out this country to Trump to save his own interest, Mr. Adani's interest and BJP interest.
06:46So, he sold out our farmers, he sold out our MSME.
06:50How come, you haven't seen this, not only Trump's tweet, their agriculture secondary tweet.
06:59So, he says, actually India is a huge market, our agriculture deficit will go because India has opened its market.
07:05Tell me, how Indian farmers will stand in front of American goods?
07:11We will, Narendra Modi, over a phone call, completely destroyed entire India and Indian farmers.
07:17So, what we expect today, the Prime Minister of the country will speak in the floor of the parliament.
07:22There is a deal, which announced by the Trump, he is actually claiming so many controversial points,
07:29which, which Prime Minister Narendra Modi is keeping silence till now, except that 18 percent.
07:35Earlier, it was 2 to 3 percent.
07:36No, no, but why could you not, ma'am, I've listened to you.
07:39Why could you not, ma'am, instead of walking out of parliament, instead of walking out of parliament, you could have raised this.
07:45No, no, Jyoti Maniji, you could have raised this issue, instead of walking out, this is precise, you could have, get out the Prime Minister on this.
07:52I am coming to the point, leader of opposition, no, listen, leader of opposition, Mr. Raghal Gandhiji, wanted to raise the same issue.
08:01Not only Narawane, Narawane issue is very clear, Prime Minister Narendra Modi is afraid of China.
08:06Prime Minister Narendra Modi is afraid of US.
08:08Now, Prime Minister Narendra Modi is afraid of Women Congress MPs also.
08:12The fear is grapple the Prime Minister.
08:14That's what I would like to make a point.
08:16The fear is completely grapple the Prime Minister.
08:19He is the weakest Prime Minister in the Independence India's history.
08:22So, that is why he does not want to talk about real issues.
08:26He wants to go on and on and on and on, basing Gandhi family.
08:29We are used to it.
08:30We know Gandhi family is respected beyond political differences.
08:34They actually sacrifice their entire life.
08:36They built this nation.
08:37So, we don't care what Prime Minister Narendra Modi is saying about Gandhi family and the Congress Party.
08:43Because we stood by this country and sacrificed everything.
08:46Still, we are fighting to uphold the values of this country.
08:49I have heard you.
08:49But Prime Minister Narendra Modi is not ready to answer single thing.
08:53Why his name is, figure out in the F-stein files.
08:55Why his Minister, Kardi Jinkpuri's name is, figure out in the F-stein file.
09:01F-stein file is not something very simple.
09:03It was released by a U.S. department in this F-stein is a F-stein file.
09:09Actually, he is a criminal.
09:10Someone is using the young girls for, young girls and supply to many leaders.
09:16So many leaders, names in figure out in the list.
09:20But Narendra Modi, why Narendra Modi's name is present there?
09:23Why Narendra Modi's name is present there?
09:23Why Narendra Modi's name is present there?
09:25Why do Prime Minister answer those things in the parliament?
09:28Okay.
09:28Okay.
09:29You made your point.
09:30Why are you stopping Raul Gandhi to speak from all these real issues?
09:33I have heard you now.
09:34You know, Raul Gandhi is another issue.
09:37Whether the Speaker should have allowed him to speak.
09:39Because Raul Gandhi began his speech with Naravne.
09:41Had he began his speech maybe with some of the other issues.
09:43Like the trade deal that you mentioned.
09:45It might have been possible for him to speak on those issues.
09:48You tell Rajneetji that we will decide what we will speak.
09:51The Speaker made a ruling, ma'am.
09:53You are the government.
09:53I am not dictating.
09:54We have no one to dictate us what we are supposed to speak.
09:56The Speaker, at the end of the day, whether you like him or not, makes these rulings.
10:00But let's focus on what you've said and let Sudanshu respond.
10:03Sudanshu Trivedi, the Congress's charges and they put up placards.
10:07Narendra surrendered.
10:08And they have said because of the Epstein files becoming a hot potato,
10:13because of Gautam Adani and the SEC rulings in America,
10:17according to the Congress, the government is surrendering to America.
10:22The government doesn't want to talk about what happened with China on the border.
10:25And therefore, they bring in other issues as a diversion.
10:29This is the Congress's claim.
10:30I am showing those posters.
10:32Your response.
10:37The statement made by our opponent, Congress MP, is it is an example of
10:43the height of prejudice, presumption to the extent of perversion?
10:48Why I am saying like this?
10:50When there is no detail of Indo-U.S. nuclear deal on the floor of the House,
10:58Commerce Minister has said that we have protected the interest of our farmers and dairies.
11:05If still you are having problems, then it's okay.
11:08It's your right.
11:09Then you show the base from where the source is coming.
11:12Have you seen the details of the news?
11:14On the contrary, Commerce Minister has said that whenever the final contours will be decided,
11:19it will be told to everybody.
11:21Now come to the second point.
11:22On the issue of Epstein files, I am unable to understand that why a perverted,
11:28char-seated criminal who is a suspicious, conspicuous, is being consistently mentioned
11:33on the floor of the House.
11:34This is an utter disrespect to the August House.
11:37No, but why should your union minister be in touch with him?
11:40Your union, there are, there are, there are emails where your union, just a minute, ma'am.
11:44There are union ministers in touch with, just, no, no, no, no, no, no, Jyoti Mani ji,
11:48please, please allow me to anchor, if your union minister's name is coming up,
11:53the government should issue a clear clarification.
11:55Why no clarification?
12:00Prime Minister, no, no, no, Jyoti Mani ji, please, you cannot interfere.
12:04When anything officially comes, when anything officially comes, then the official reaction
12:10is required.
12:11At present, as far as Prime Minister is concerned, not even a single email, not even a single
12:16telephone call, not even a single text message, not even a single meeting.
12:21And still, the leader of the opposition is saying that he was singing and dancing.
12:25Sir, there was only one song that is sang, that was the national anthem of India in Israel,
12:29because 2017 Prime Minister visit was a totally official visit.
12:32Not clear of opposition.
12:33And each and every minute is officially documented.
12:35Ha, they might have thinking that the national anthem was just a singing, like at the time
12:39of Ram Mandir opening, they were saying that it's going to be happening, so it's going to
12:43happen, that it's going to happen, that it's going to happen, that it's going to happen.
12:45This is up to them.
12:47But I want to ask, not even a single email, not even a single text message, not even a single
12:52phone call, not even a single meeting, still you want to rely on a charge-seated perverted
12:57criminal that showed the prejudice against Prime Minister Modi to the extent of perversion.
13:02That is a fundamental problem.
13:04And one more thing I would like to ask.
13:07I mean, come to come, Jyothi Mani Ji didn't say that the Indo-U.S. deal should be able to
13:11take a deal with the Indo-U.S. deal, but the tutors of Rahul Gandhi Ji already given the
13:16issue of the book of Narwaneh, unpublished book of Narwaneh, so he went upon that with the
13:21prescribed format.
13:22He didn't thought out that the new issue has erupted in the last 48 hours.
13:26He was there.
13:28Whatever it dictated by Soros Sons, now I have to go on that.
13:32I do not want to apply the one main.
13:35Okay, good point.
13:36Can I, you know, Jyothi Mani Ji, if Rahul Gandhi wanted to raise all these issues that he's
13:41raising outside parliament, whether it's the Epstein files, whether it is the alleged surrender
13:48to America, he could have done all of this on the floor of the house.
13:51He decided after the first day, after the speaker had ruled out and said, you cannot raise Narwaneh,
13:56he insisted on raising it on second day, on third day, and then you say he's not being
14:00allowed to speak.
14:01The point is, Jyothi Mani, sometimes you have to also accept in parliament that howsoever
14:08high you are, whether you like it or not, the speaker is above you.
14:11You gave the floor as a result to the BJP and the Prime Minister.
14:15Rahul Gandhi could have made an equally strong one-hour speech.
14:18Rajdeep ji, I already pointed out this.
14:24Will the speaker will decide, or the Prime Minister Narendra Modi, or the Bharatiya Jyothi
14:29party will decide what Rahul Gandhi will speak in the parliament, or which is his first point,
14:35second point, third point.
14:36They will dictate term to us.
14:37It's a party hour.
14:39He's a floor leader.
14:41He's a leader of opposition.
14:42He's a leader of this country.
14:44He will know what he will speak, when he will speak, what should he will speak.
14:48So, who is the speaker?
14:50The speaker does not have any power to dictate term to any member what we should speak, not
14:55only leader of opposition, even some normal MP like me.
14:58The speaker does not have power to dictate terms.
15:01So, that's what we are saying.
15:03The speaker is completely biased.
15:05The speaker runs the house on behalf of the BJP.
15:07Madam, the speaker today said, Jyoti Mani ji, Jyoti Mani ji, just a minute, speaker today
15:14said, Madam, one minute, speaker today said that you are going to physically attack the
15:20Prime Minister.
15:21That's what the speaker has gone on record to say.
15:24Please answer.
15:25Yeah, I want to answer.
15:28So, yeah, this is laughable Rajdeep ji.
15:32See, this shows how speaker behave in the Lok Sabha.
15:35See, we are the MPs, some women MPs.
15:38We are protesting for the last four days.
15:40We want leader of opposition to speak, not only we, all the India alliance partners are
15:45firmly with us, because that is why they don't want to speak, because leader of opposition
15:49Rajdeep ji was not allowed to speak.
15:51Rajdeep ji was coming to the parliament and trying to speak four days.
15:54He was not allowed.
15:56Top of that, this Nishikantubei was being instigated by the top high command of the BJP and talking
16:01such a derogatory, awkward, ugly things about the former Prime Minister in this country.
16:06We went to the speaker.
16:07The speaker said, four o'clock, you will come, I will do something.
16:09Then four o'clock, we went, he said, I told the government, the government didn't come
16:14back to me.
16:14Then who run this house?
16:16Obviously, speaker conceded that speaker is not running the house.
16:19The top of the government is running the house.
16:21That's what our charges is.
16:22The speaker is forced to say unbelievable, laughable lies, even against women MPs.
16:28You're calling it, okay ma'am.
16:29I've heard you, I've heard you, ma'am.
16:30Am I looking like someone who's...
16:33I've heard you.
16:34You're saying to me.
16:34No, no, am I looking like someone who go and attack the Prime Minister?
16:36Because they are women.
16:38They can't stand women asking, raising questions.
16:40Women is protesting against the Prime Minister.
16:42Women is protesting against the ruling party.
16:45They can't stand women.
16:46That is, because their ideology is against women.
16:49That is why, actually, they are making this kind of absurd allegations against them.
16:53I'm playing the role of the speaker, trying to give equal time.
16:56Okay, you're saying it shows their character.
16:58There's one point, though, Sudhanshu Trivedi, which troubled me today.
17:01Prime Minister used the reference that Rahul Gandhi made to Ravinder Bittu, his former colleague,
17:08where he had called him a traitor.
17:10And Prime Minister said, this is a baddara versus a sardara.
17:13It is a baddara.
17:13It is a baddara.
17:15Now, when you say that, don't you think these are...
17:19These are statements which perhaps don't reflect statesmanship.
17:23They are playing to the gallery.
17:24This is whatever else the Congress has done.
17:27And for 1984, the Congress deserves to be completely condemned.
17:31Let's be clear.
17:32For the anti-seek riots that took place, Congress has blood on its hands.
17:36I'm very clear on that.
17:37But the same Congress had Manmohan Singh as Prime Minister for 10 years.
17:41Today, now, based on what happened outside, it appeared to me as an outsider, as banter.
17:47One person called other, desh ka dushmann.
17:49One said, traitor.
17:51To now rake it up and say, sabhi sardaro ka appaan hua hai.
17:56Is this something that only is meant to inflame passions?
18:00Should the Prime Minister have even got into it?
18:02It happened outside the house.
18:05Okay.
18:09Rajdeep, I will answer both the things.
18:11Your question and also on the issue of what Jyoti Maniji has spoken.
18:16She's saying that the women MPs were making their issue okay, no problem.
18:23Then you can enter in the well, okay, no problem.
18:26Then why you come to the side of treasuries and then you're having a banner and a shield
18:32of women MPs and then try to enter into the benches of treasuries.
18:37How this can be a right?
18:39Your right can be the protest from your own seat, from the own area.
18:42You cannot enter there.
18:44And I would like to ask that putting the shield of women with the banners in the hand, which
18:49is prohibited in the parliament, from where you have got the idea?
18:52From Shaheen Bagh or Gaza?
18:53This is the same model, which has been used in Shaheen Bagh or other protests that put
18:59a shield of women with a banner and keep on moving ahead.
19:03So they try to create a Shaheen Bagh on the floor of the Lok Sabha.
19:07This is my elimination.
19:08And one more thing I would like to say.
19:10Now, what you have said about the Sikhs, Sardarichu.
19:14Rajdeep, if there is a personal conflict between two persons and the caste of one person is sued,
19:21so suddenly the Congress said, oh, it's attack on Dalits, okay?
19:25If there is a personal conflict between two persons and one is Muslim, oh, it's attack
19:29on Muslims.
19:31And even if a Muslim is a criminal and a terrorist and he is being hanged by the due process of
19:37law, oh, it's an attack on Muslims.
19:40And when you are saying, this is wrong, Rajdeep ji, you should not allow this.
19:44How can he use the people like this?
19:45Rajdeep ji, this is very unacceptable using some kind of...
19:48No, no, no.
19:49No, this is wrong.
19:49Who has sacrificed and laid down his life.
19:51Don't shout.
19:52No, no, one minute.
19:52No, this is wrong.
19:53How can you use that?
19:54Just one-on-one debate.
19:55On one religion.
19:56Need not to shout.
19:57No, no, it's not about one debate.
19:57No, no, this is wrong, Rajdeep ji.
19:58I have asked him a question, I have asked him a question, madam.
20:02Ma'am, he should be allowed to complete and then I am coming to you.
20:05Finish up in 30 seconds, Sudhanshu ji.
20:07No, we can't use such language.
20:07Okay, okay.
20:08This is one-on-one debate.
20:09There is no need of heckling.
20:11Madam, madam, one minute.
20:12Yes, finish up, Sudhanshu.
20:15No, we are not heckling.
20:16You just...
20:16You wait for your turn and it destroyed my argument.
20:19But wait for your turn.
20:21I'll let you speak.
20:22So, I'm opposing.
20:23Yeah, okay, you opposed it.
20:25I've taken your opposition on record.
20:27I'll put down a fader.
20:28Yeah, go ahead.
20:29Finish up, Sudhanshu.
20:31Was this the kind of statement a prime minister should make?
20:34Is it not dangerous and inflammatory?
20:35Ravni Singh belongs to the family of Bayan Singh, chief minister.
20:40Listen, he represents the family of Bayan Singh ji who has laid down his life for the country
20:45and not taken any Bharat Ratna.
20:48And you have humiliated Amrinder Singh, who was the only chief minister who was capable of
20:54stopping the Modi wave in the entire country from 2014 to 2017.
20:59And forget about that.
21:01Gandhi family has said, Priyanka Gandhi openly said that she is ready to forgive the killers
21:06of her father Rajiv Gandhi.
21:08But had they given any statement, they are ready to forgive the killers of Indra Gandhi.
21:12No.
21:13So, they're hated from Bada Per Gerta hai to Dharti Hirti hai.
21:17To Ranit Singh Bittu shows a pattern.
21:20So, that's why.
21:21You know, as I said, it's very, you know, it is, you know, Sudhanshu, I have high regard
21:26for you.
21:27You know, the fact, the fact is, as I said, this is the same Congress party just a minute
21:34had made Manmohan Singh as their prime minister for 10 years.
21:37So, I think to rake up the Sikh issue in the context of what appeared clearly targeting someone
21:42who had left the party, I thought maybe was a bit of an overreaction.
21:46Rajivji, I want to make your own quick point.
21:48Madam, just a minute.
21:49Now, you tell me, madam, all of what you are saying, you could have, I come back to it,
21:55if Rahul Gandhi and the Congress party believe that Narendra Modi's government has failed
22:00on various issues, this was the opportunity to completely nail them inside Parliament.
22:07Don't you think it's a missed opportunity, ma'am, in that sense?
22:15See, I'm coming to that.
22:16Quickly, I make one point.
22:18Me and Bittu were colleagues from the beginning in the Youth Congress.
22:21Bittu was made as a Youth Congress President.
22:23Bittu was made many times MPs because of Rahul Gandhi.
22:25He backstrapped us and went to BJP.
22:27So, we have every right to point out someone who actually, who backstabbed us.
22:32So, there is no point, no Sikh will accept this kind of backstopping.
22:36You could have called him a Bittu is a Bittu is a traitor.
22:37So, there is no point, you expect.
22:41No, no, no, there is a slight difference only, Rajivji.
22:44That is very wrong.
22:45You see, you don't have an ideology, you are with Congress, then you go to BJP, totally
22:50against it, what do you expect us to call him?
22:52So, then also there is no point to expect PM to behave like a statesman.
22:56He never behaved one.
22:58So, now coming to your point.
22:59See, we, see, I just want to say time and again, we wanted to speak every issue which
23:05is affecting this country in the floor of the parliament.
23:07That is why our fight, why we went to the Treasury Pencher side, as, as, uh, Sudhan
23:12Siddhi said, it's not prohibited.
23:14Protest is our right.
23:15It's a fundamental right.
23:16The constitution has enshrined in everybody, not only in the member of parliament.
23:19So, we have every right to protest.
23:21They have protested when we were ruling.
23:23They were in opposition.
23:24They have protested with banner, placard, whatever it is.
23:27So, that is a democratic form.
23:29So, there is no point to tell us not to protest.
23:32We wanted to speak in the parliament.
23:33Rahulji was not allowed by none other than Prime Minister Narendra Modi ji and the Home
23:38Minister and the Defence Minister of this country.
23:39You are saying that, you are saying that Lok Sabha speaker was working, you are making
23:43a serious charge.
23:44You are saying Lok Sabha speaker was working under the instructions of Prime Minister Modi
23:49and Home Minister Shah to prevent Rahul Gandhi from speaking in parliament.
23:55That's the charge you are making here on the show.
23:57I will give 30 seconds.
23:59That is obvious.
24:00That is obvious.
24:00That is very obvious.
24:01You believe that it was entirely orchestrated.
24:04I have taken your point.
24:05Let me, give me 20 seconds.
24:07I want to finish.
24:08Yeah, I want to finish Rajiv ji.
24:10So, the Prime Minister and the BJP does not want us to raise very important issue which
24:15shows Prime Minister in a poor life.
24:17Prime Minister was weak.
24:18He let down the country.
24:19He sold out the country.
24:20He does not want Rahul ji to say that in the floor of the parliament.
24:23That is why they are trying to silence us.
24:26But we are not silenced.
24:26I have heard both sides.
24:27Now, we are exposed to the Prime Minister and the BJP.
24:30I have heard both sides.
24:31I have given you equal time.
24:32I have heard both sides.
24:33I have tried to do what perhaps the Lok Sabha speaker unfortunately has failed to do.
24:37give both sides equal time.
24:40That's what democracy really should be.
24:42That both sides should be heard.
24:44This time in parliament, unfortunately, for whatever reason, only one side's voice dominated
24:49over the other.
24:50Sudhanshu Trivedi and Jyoti Maniji for joining me here.
24:53Thank you very much on my face off.
24:56Thank you very much on my face off.
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