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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome. You're with the news today, your prime time destination.
00:04News without the noise, we'll get you all the big stories and perspectives in a moment and our news makers.
00:11But first, as always, let me tell you our big talking point tonight.
00:15There's been a triple teen suicide that has stunned the nation in Ghaziabad.
00:19We'll ask, what drives young teenagers to suicide?
00:24Also, the battle in Parliament is intensifying between the Modi government and Rahul Gandhi and the Congress.
00:30We'll tell you more on that.
00:31And among our special guests, one of India's top trade policy economists, Arvind Panagriya,
00:37tells us why he believes the India-U.S. trade deal could be as big a moment as 1991.
00:4420 to look forward to.
00:45But first, as always, it's time for the Nine Headlines at Nine.
00:49Prime Minister Narendra Modi's speech replying to the vote of thanks on the President's address
00:56is derailed in Lok Sabha amidst ruckus.
00:59Women opposition MPs protest near the Prime Minister's chair.
01:03Rahul Gandhi and Priyanka Gandhi-Wadra claim Prime Minister is scared from facing the truth
01:08on the Naravane memoirs and hence doesn't want to appear in Parliament.
01:12Outside Parliament is Rahul Gandhi versus Minister Ravneet Bittu.
01:20Their banter turns political after Rahul takes a traitor jibe against his ex-colleague.
01:26The union minister hits back with a Deshke Dushman attack.
01:29BJP now wants an apology for insulting Sikhs.
01:32Dramatic scenes unfold in Supreme Court after West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee
01:41becomes the first sitting Chief Minister to make submissions during the Sir hearing.
01:46Apex Court issues a notice to the Election Commission to file a reply by Monday.
01:51Three minor sisters die by suicide in Ghaziabad.
01:58Father claims the girl was obsessed with Korean culture.
02:02Sources say parents objected to such content, took away their phones which prompted the extreme step
02:08but other theories suggest the girls were being mistreated.
02:14President's rule ends in Manipur after 12 months.
02:18Methe leader Yumnam Khemchand Singh takes oath as Chief Minister.
02:22Kuki leader N. Kip Gain and senior NPP leader L. Deeko also sworn in as Deputy Chief Ministers.
02:30A massive 22-kilometer jam on the Mumbai-Pune Expressway.
02:34Vehicle stuck for over 24 hours after a gas tanker overturns on the busy corridor.
02:42Gas-filled balloons lead to an explosion in the lift of a building in Mumbai's Goregao.
02:47Now three people in the lift have a miraculous escape.
02:52A Turkish Airlines flight with 236 passengers makes a full emergency landing at Kolkata Airport
02:58after the captain reports a possible fire in the right engine.
03:01And India's under-19 team registers a record-highest chase in history of the tournament
03:08by chasing down 311 versus Afghanistan in the semis.
03:12The young Turks, led by Aaron George's Century, will take on England in the final.
03:17It brings them to the final for a tenth time in 16 edition.
03:23But tonight, I want to start with an unimaginable tragedy.
03:29It comes from Ghaziabad, near the national capital.
03:33A story that has raised troubling questions about teenage mental health
03:36and, according to some, the influence of online culture.
03:40Three minor sisters died after allegedly jumping from a high-rise building,
03:45leaving behind a devastated family and a shaken neighbourhood.
03:48While the father has blamed a Korean online game for their suicide,
03:53police say there is no evidence to support that claim.
03:56The police say the kids were heavily influenced by Korean shows and music,
04:00but the girls were also lonely and the father had stopped sending them to school.
04:06What's the reality?
04:07It's our top story tonight.
04:09Three teenage sisters, deeply influenced by Korean pop culture
04:23and denied access to their mobile phones,
04:26allegedly took their own lives.
04:28Ghaziabad is reeling from this shocking tragedy.
04:31The sisters, aged 12, 14 and 16,
04:36reportedly jumped from the ninth floor of a residential building early Wednesday.
04:41The incident happened around 2.30 a.m. in Bharat City,
04:45leaving neighbours terrified and a community in shock.
04:49We are at the very spot where the bodies of the three young children was found.
04:54This is the apartment from which the children jumped to their death
04:58from the ninth floor of this apartment in Ghaziabad.
05:01And this is where, at about 2 in the morning,
05:03where the bodies of the young children, 12, 14 and 16 were found,
05:07are now marked by the police and cordoned off.
05:10Obviously, it's a scene of crime and that's the reason why this entire area has been cordoned off.
05:14But this is where the body of the children was found.
05:18First time, they told me that something is strange.
05:20So I saw that they went and went and went.
05:24So I told them that nothing is happening.
05:25You have to waste time without time.
05:27So I said, no, you have to wait for 2 minutes.
05:29The girl's father has claimed a Korean online game may have played a role.
05:50According to him, the game had 50 tasks, with the last one scheduled on Tuesday.
05:56He also claimed the middle daughter acted as the leader,
05:59giving commands and that the sisters had kept the game secret from everyone.
06:20The police, however, ruled out any gaming angle.
06:32Police recovered a suicide note that provides insight into the girl's state of mind.
06:59It read, and I quote,
07:02Please read everything in this diary.
07:05Everything written is true.
07:07I am really sorry, Papa.
07:09And I unquote.
07:10The note also had a scribbled crying face.
07:14Neighbors revealed the father had two marriages.
07:16They had five children and the whole family was living together.
07:20These three daughters had not been going to school for the past couple of years.
07:24The two sisters were not going to school for the past couple of years.
07:30The children were going to school for the past couple of years.
07:31The second daughter had not seen the samebilds in the past couple of years.
07:33The bodies have sent for post-mortem
08:03While police continue investigating family members, mobile phones and digital activity
08:08To understand the full circumstances behind this heartbreaking incident
08:13The truth is still unfolding
08:15Three teens are dead
08:17And police are looking for answers behind this tragic loss
08:21With Sneha Mordani and Himancho Mishra in Ghaziabad, Bureau Report, India Today
08:27And joining me now is Dr. Amit Sen
08:33He's a mental health activist, child and adolescent psychiatrist
08:37Founder Children First India
08:38I appreciate you joining us, Dr. Sen
08:41It's been a terrible tragedy that's happened in Ghaziabad
08:45But a case like this throws up all kinds of questions
08:48Many of them still unanswered
08:51Why would three young girls commit suicide together in this manner?
08:55Lots of theories doing the rounds including the possibility
08:57They were addicted to a Korean online game
09:00Once their mobiles were snatched away, they went into depression
09:03Now that's only one of the theories
09:05What's your sense?
09:07What would lead young girls like this to commit suicide or die by suicide?
09:11Razeeb, it's not a simple
09:16There can't be a simple answer to this
09:18It is multifactorial
09:20It is very complex
09:21And I don't think by, you know, attributing it to just one cause
09:26Like a particular game they were playing is minimizing it
09:29It's kind of, you know, making it sound ridiculous in my mind
09:33Because there are many factors that actually lead up to young people
09:36Taking to such, you know, internet games or social media
09:40Gravitating towards certain behaviors
09:42The ultimate suicidal act is a culmination of sometimes months and long years
09:48Of suffering, emotional suffering for different reasons
09:51And there are many things that add up together
09:53For instance, in this family itself
09:54When we, I've been reading snippets of, you know, the news that is coming out
09:58It appears that it was a family where the father had married twice
10:01Because the first wife did not conceive
10:04And then they had three girls, you know, in a society where, you know
10:08The birth of a male child is celebrated
10:10And every time a girl child is born
10:12There's a sense of doom and gloom
10:14What kind of treatment or sort of emotional support these girls got
10:20There's also news that apparently they didn't go to school
10:23They apparently were not able to cope with school life
10:25And what was that for you?
10:27Were they emotional hassles?
10:28Were they learning difficulties?
10:30Or were they neurodivergent?
10:32We don't know any of that
10:33And so all these kinds of things came, comes together
10:36And apparently one of the girls had written in bold letters that
10:39I'm really alone
10:40Now, who addressed it?
10:43Who, was there a space to be able to
10:45For these girls to be able to communicate
10:47And seek any kind of social, emotional support
10:50Or any kind of connections out there?
10:52So all of that comes together
10:54And when we have a trigger
10:56Perhaps a trigger
10:57From a game or a
10:59You know, a post which is triggering
11:03We attribute everything to that one last thing
11:06Which is such a shallow and small way of looking at these things
11:11I think it's much more complex
11:12And unless we are able to address it in these different layers
11:15I think we'll miss the bus all the time
11:16Repeatedly as we have been doing
11:18You know, one of the things that stands out for me
11:21From what you said is the art of listening
11:23The art to really show empathy
11:24In this case, Dr. Sen
11:26The family appears to have been a little dysfunctional
11:29The children not going to school
11:30Or not being sent to school
11:32Possibly in that cloistered environment
11:36Addicted to one game
11:37But either way, clearly emotionally distressed
11:40And there was actually no one there
11:42To reach out and empathize with them
11:44Including potentially their parents
11:46Is that the problem?
11:48That even parents often don't recognize
11:50The kind of emotional distress
11:51That their near and dear ones
11:53Could be going through
11:55Because of certain actions
11:56That they have taken
11:57And empathy is really the key
11:59Indeed, oh absolutely
12:03That's so true
12:04That you know
12:05The emotional well-being
12:06And the mental health of young people
12:08Is such a remote thing in people's minds
12:12You know
12:13As long as children go to school
12:15They you know
12:15Make a career
12:16Get good grades
12:17We are fine with it
12:19You know
12:19The moment
12:20And the moment those things start slipping
12:22We get worried
12:22But when it comes to
12:23Their inner world
12:24Their emotional turmoil
12:25I mean there are hardly any people
12:27Who you know
12:29Give anything to that
12:30Right
12:31There are many many reasons
12:33Why eventually suicides can happen
12:35And I think it's important
12:36To also recognize that
12:38Suicide is
12:40The number one cause of death
12:43In youth
12:43In India
12:44And indeed
12:45The suicide rates are
12:47Double that of the global average
12:50And in Indian women
12:51Young women particularly
12:52It's almost six times
12:54That of the global average
12:55And that tells a story
12:56And it can't be simplified
12:58And just brought down
12:59To one cause
12:59Which is doing this
13:01There are multifactorial things
13:02And one of the things
13:03That you said
13:03That we don't have spaces
13:06We don't have people
13:08Who are willing to listen
13:11To young people
13:12Who go through their own turmoil
13:13Whether it is about their future
13:14Whether it is about race
13:16Whether it is about
13:17Getting bullied or abused
13:18Whether it is about
13:19Peer relationships
13:20You know
13:21All those kinds of things
13:22You know
13:23And particularly girls
13:24Who feel
13:24Apostro-marginatized
13:26In the society
13:27With patriarchal and male
13:28Dr. Sen
13:30Appreciate you joining me
13:32Here on the show tonight
13:33Clearly
13:33This case
13:35More details
13:36Could come out
13:37In the days ahead
13:38But for now
13:39For giving us
13:40Your sense of
13:40Why we need to be careful
13:42With those who are near
13:43And dear ones of ours
13:45Including our children
13:46In particular
13:47To give them
13:48That kind of environment
13:49Where they feel wanted
13:50And where they don't feel distressed
13:52Is an important takeaway
13:54From this case
13:56A real shocker
13:56There in Ghaziabad
13:58I want to turn from there
14:00To the shocker in parliament
14:02Where for the third straight day
14:04Pandemonium prevailing
14:05In the Lok Sabha
14:06Prime Minister Narendra Modi's reply
14:08To the President's address
14:09Scheduled for 5pm
14:11Did not take place
14:12Or could not take place
14:13After massive protests
14:15Led by the Congress
14:16And other opposition MPs
14:18Who ghered out
14:18The Prime Minister's seat
14:19Forcing an adjournment
14:21All of this
14:22Remember comes a day
14:23After several Congress MPs
14:26Were suspended
14:26And Rahul Gandhi
14:28Was not allowed
14:29To complete his speech
14:31The fact of the government
14:32And not just inside parliament
14:34There was also a bitter flashpoint
14:36Outside parliament
14:37When Rahul Gandhi
14:39Took potshots
14:39And Union Minister
14:40Ravneet Singh Bittu
14:42Once with the Congress
14:44Now with the BJP
14:46All of which
14:47Suggests that parliament
14:48Particularly the Lok Sabha
14:50Is seeing yet another
14:52Complete breakdown
14:54Take a look
14:55At all that happened
14:57A day of high drama
15:11Both inside
15:13And outside the parliament
15:14The biggest flashpoint
15:16A personal one
15:18That erupted
15:19At parliament's
15:20Makar Dwar
15:20Between leader of opposition
15:22Rahul Gandhi
15:22And Union Minister
15:24Ravneet Singh Bittu
15:25Who was once
15:26In the Congress
15:27And was close to him
15:28Here is a
15:30Traitor walking right by
15:31Take a look at your face
15:34Look what it looks like
15:35Hello brother
15:35My traitor
15:37Don't worry
15:39You'll come back
15:39Bittu struck back sharply
15:49Branding Rahul Gandhi
15:50And protesting MPs
15:51As Desh ki Dushman
15:53Thaik hai unka
15:55Mere se koi naraajgi
15:56Personal ho sakti hai
15:58Lekin wu
15:58Ittne bade
15:59Prawar ki
16:01Ittne bade
16:02Woh party ke
16:02Lieder hai
16:03Toh woh aaj
16:05Is tariqe se
16:05Unhohne joh
16:07Behave kiya
16:08Joh cheejjai kahi
16:09To bilkul
16:10Main to
16:11Is cheej ka
16:13Zarur bhi
16:13Mere maan
16:15Mriyada ke liye
16:16Main speaker saab ko
16:17Bhi kahuun ga
16:18Bhi ab
16:18Andar to thay
16:19Thay thay
16:19Bahaar bhi
16:20He mein gheton pe gher ke
16:21Ab shab bata
16:22The face off
16:25Between the Modi
16:26Government and
16:27Rahul Gandhi
16:27Started from the
16:28Morning
16:29A day after
16:31Rahul Gandhi
16:31Sighted
16:32Former army
16:33Chief general
16:34M.M. Naram
16:34Nay's memoir
16:35In parliament
16:36The BJP
16:37Responded
16:37With books
16:38Of its own
16:39BJP MP
16:41Nishikand
16:42Dubey
16:42Walked into
16:43The house
16:43Holding books
16:44Detailing alleged
16:45Congress scams
16:46Including
16:47Bofos
16:47The move
16:49Triggered
16:49Loud protests
16:50From the opposition
16:51Dubey
16:52He was denied
16:53Permission
16:53By the chair
16:54But he went on
16:55Papers were torn
16:59Sheets
17:00Were flung
17:01Across the house
17:02Torn pages
17:03Flew back
17:04Amid rising disorder
17:06Mishikand
17:08Dubey
17:09Jee
17:09Tabhi
17:09Uttay
17:10Jab
17:10Sarkar
17:11Ki
17:11Ijazat
17:12Hotei
17:12Jab
17:12Sarkar
17:13Kaehdi
17:13Ke
17:13Jau
17:13House
17:14Ko
17:14Disrupt
17:15Karo
17:15LOP
17:16Ko
17:16Aik
17:16Kitab
17:17Jho
17:17Prakashit
17:17Hai
17:17Jho
17:18Aaj
17:18Aaf
17:18Ke
17:18Saam
17:18Ne
17:18Bhi
17:19Dikha
17:19He
17:19Aan
17:19Aan
17:19Aan
17:19Aan
17:20Aan
17:20Aan
17:22Kaeh
17:22Prakashit
17:23Kitar
17:23Usse
17:24Kote
17:25Nain
17:25Kare
17:25Nain
17:25Aan
17:26Aan
17:26Aan
17:26Aan
17:26Aan
17:27Aan
17:27Aan
17:28Aan
17:28Aan
17:28Aan
17:29Aan
17:29Aan
17:30Aan
17:30Aan
17:30Aan
17:30Aan
17:31Aan
17:31Aan
17:32Aan
17:32Aan
17:34Aan
17:36Aan
17:36Aan
17:38Outside
17:39The
17:39Parliament
17:39Congress
17:40MP
17:41Staged
17:41A
17:41Protest
17:42Leader
17:43Of
17:43Opposition
17:44Rahul
17:44Gandhi
17:44Wait
17:45Former
17:45Army
17:45Chief
17:46General
17:46M.M.
17:47Naravani
17:47Memoir
17:47Naravani
17:50This is Mr. Naravani's book. Naravani ji ki kitab hai. Ismei unhonei poora account likha hai.
17:57I don't think PM will have the guts to come to the Lok Sabha today. Because if he comes, I'm going to give him this book. So if PM comes, I will go physically and hand him this book so he can read it. And unko pata lag jai ki unki satchai ki a deshko pata lag jai. Thank you.
18:20Prime Minister Narendra Modi was scheduled to address the Lok Sabha on Wednesday evening.
18:25The House was first adjourned till 5 p.m. The Prime Minister was expected to speak when proceedings resumed. But barely a minute after the House reconvened, it was adjourned for the day.
18:37Bureau Report, India Today.
18:43Okay, let's raise the big question there. Is there now a total breakdown in government opposition ties yet again in parliament? Is the Lok Sabha Speaker partly responsible? Is he really a neutral umpire?
18:54Are biased? What will it take? And who is going to now restore trust between the two sides? Just some of the questions that we will raise money come Tagore is a Lok Sabha Congress MP, Deputy
19:04Whip of the party who's also been suspended among the MPs who's been suspended because he allegedly tore the papers in front of the speaker. He's smiling at the moment. So he's not apologetic.
19:16I appreciate both of you joining us. Manikam Tagore to you first. When I mentioned that you have been suspended for tearing the papers in front of the speaker yesterday, you're smiling at the moment.
19:31Is this the approach that you're going to take that you don't care? You're going to just make sure now that because Rahul Gandhi was not allowed to speak, you're not going to let Narendra Modi speak?
19:41Today, your MPs were gherowing the Prime Minister's chair with placards, which again is against the parliamentary rules.
19:49Good evening. We need to understand that the discussion on the president's address started well.
19:55One hour of discussion where two BJP leaders spoke. Sarvanand Sulwalji and Bangalore South MP Tejasvi Surya. Surya also spoke many things about imaginary stories, attacking Congress, Congress leadership fundamentals.
20:15There was no, we were not at all getting angry with these kind of things, not allowing him to speak, all these kind of things, disturbance, nothing we were doing.
20:23But when leader of opposition was stopped, when leader of opposition wanted to speak, when defensive ministers started to behave like that, when home ministers started to jump, when parliamentary affairs minister again and again started to jump,
20:37then when they had a planned story that they will not allow the leader of opposition to speak, and next day, when that was pushed to the next level, that they will not allow leader of opposition to, after authenticating the letter also,
20:51he will not allow the next party, the TMC party, then TMC refuses to speak, then Samadhuwadi they call it, Samadhuwadi colleagues refuse to speak, then they call DMK colleagues, DMK colleague refuses to speak, all the opposition parties' voices are silenced, then they call TDPMP.
21:10The rules are silenced to speak, all the opposition parties' voices are silenced, then they call it, in order to speak, then they call it, Amir, then they call it a.
21:12The rules are broken there, the rules are broken there, the rules paper has become only a paper there.
21:16What I was clear, it was only a paper, it was not rule.
21:19It was just, it was a bogus thing this house has become that the government is pressurizing the Honorable Chair.
21:26We respect the Honorable Chair.
21:28Honorable Speaker has not come to the chair today also, and today also.
21:34Because completely the government is pressurizing the honourable speaker's chair.
21:39Lot of pressure is going on.
21:41Nishikar Dubey, the habitual offender, has been given the mic
21:45when leader of opposition is not able to get the mic today.
21:49And he is quoting six books.
21:51No, but does that, you know, I allowed you to have a full run on it,
21:55but does that justify tearing papers in front of the speaker,
22:00putting placards in where the Prime Minister is about to speak?
22:03I mean, is there no attempt being made to go to the speaker, go to his room?
22:07You're a deputy chief, go and tell him what you're doing is unfair.
22:11We believe that Rahul Gandhi must be allowed to speak.
22:13Is there no backroom talk at all between you and the speaker's office?
22:17Is there a complete breakdown?
22:19No, we are very democratic in nature.
22:22Today also they went.
22:23Today also our leadership went.
22:25I am a suspected MP, therefore I have not gone to meet the honourable speaker.
22:28Today also KC Venu Gopalji, Priyanka Gandhi and Deepinder Hudda,
22:34all of our leaders, Kesh Ureji, all of them went.
22:36Javid, my colleague, they all went.
22:40They said what Nishikar Dubey is doing is completely unacceptable.
22:44This is against all the rules.
22:46Rules are becoming just papers.
22:48It is not being followed.
22:48You're saying the fact that Nishikar Dubey was showing books,
22:51you're saying the fact that Nishikar Dubey was allowed to show books targeting the Congress
22:55versus your leader not being allowed to show a book of,
22:59unpublished book of General Naravne.
23:01Am I correct?
23:03The problem is that they asked for authenticating that book itself.
23:08The whole discussion would have gone smoothly.
23:12If when defensive minister asked that whether you will authenticate it,
23:15leader of opposition said that yes, I will authenticate it.
23:18And he gave next day authentication also.
23:21Before that, there was a meeting with Honorable Speaker.
23:24Then he explained that our leader of opposition will give it authentication also.
23:29Therefore, we have to understand it.
23:30There is, we are ready to walk to that level.
23:32That is breaking down is from the government part.
23:35Government is becoming more arrogant.
23:37They are, Mr. Kiran Reju completely is failing as parliamentary affairs minister.
23:41He is unable to face, it's a minority government.
23:44Two 40 MPs are only there.
23:45They are able to manage another 40 MPs because of the help of EDCBA and other fund issues and others.
23:51That is the way they are able to manage the government.
23:54They are not able to see the whole India block with 239 MPs as united force.
23:58We are very clear that the insult to leader of opposition is an insult to opposition parties.
24:03Okay, I have heard you now, Aparajita Sarangi, I have heard the opposition leader now to you.
24:09It's very interesting that you get Nishikan Dubey to put out books where on Bofors, on allegedly Indira Gandhi's links with KGB.
24:19And there the person in the chair says nothing.
24:22He is freely allowed, I am showing those pictures, he is freely allowed to talk about the books.
24:26But Rahul Gandhi cannot speak on a book, except of which are in a magazine.
24:30So technically it's a published work, the magazine is a published work.
24:34Is it now that the government also has decided, okay, if Rahul Gandhi is going to embarrass us in some way,
24:40we will also embarrass them and use Nishikan Dubey.
24:43End result, the Prime Minister of the country was also not allowed to speak today.
24:51A very good evening.
24:54Budget session has just begun.
24:56We had the presidential address on 28th of last month.
25:01And three days are already lost.
25:05I think all of us must accept this and must acknowledge this.
25:08Now, having said that, let me tell you that since the time Rahul Gandhiji stood up and started showing some unpublished material,
25:20the ruckus in the Lok Sabha was created.
25:24Now, let me tell you, let me give you an instance what happened yesterday.
25:28In fact, most of us know what had been happening for the past two, three days.
25:32Last day, yesterday, there was an instance which I would like to share with you.
25:37I was in the Lok Sabha, looking at the proceedings of the Lok Sabha.
25:43There was complete mayhem everywhere.
25:46And then suddenly, the LOP says,
25:50I am the leader of opposition.
25:52Do you think I need permission from the chair to speak?
25:57Believe me, I'm a second-time parliamentarian.
26:00I was aghast.
26:01I mean, the Honourable Prime Minister, when he stands up to speak, he seeks the permission of the chair.
26:09Whosoever may be sitting in the chair is presiding over the house.
26:13Now, here is an LOP who says, does he need permission because he is the LOP?
26:18Now, this is smacks of arrogance.
26:20This is absolutely adamant behavior.
26:24And I would also say that this smacks of ignorance of the rules of Lok Sabha.
26:30Now, we are all guided as parliamentarians.
26:32Ma'am, what happens if the speaker is seen to be brazenly partisan?
26:36I take your point.
26:38But what happens if the speaker is seen to be brazenly partisan?
26:42The fact is, I have checked the rules in the past.
26:44People have been allowed to quote from newspapers, from magazines.
26:48Now, it may be embarrassing to the government.
26:50Listen to him.
26:51And then the Prime Minister has every reason to rip Rahul Gandhi apart in parliament.
26:56But the speaker seems to be acting as a 12th man for the government.
27:00That's not his role.
27:03Not at all.
27:04Not at all.
27:05See, let me get back to the rule.
27:08349, Rules of Procedure and Conductor Business in the Lok Sabha,
27:12which all of us have been quoting for the past 3-4 days.
27:15Now, this particular rule says that no material, no newspaper can be read out
27:20if the matter so raised is not in connection with the business of the house.
27:25Now, what was the business in the house?
27:27I think all of us must appreciate.
27:28I think speaker Sri Om Birlaji is absolutely right
27:31when he denied the LOP to speak.
27:36You know, when he asked LOP not to speak.
27:39Why so?
27:40Because the business in the house was motion of thanks on the presidential address.
27:45Now, suddenly, since you want to talk about Indochina relationship,
27:49suddenly you want to talk about some internal security matter,
27:52which have been in your mind for so long,
27:55you want to seize this as an opportunity.
27:58This is something which obviously,
28:00any person sitting in the chair would not like.
28:04There is absolutely no partisan approach here.
28:06Should there be no attempt, ma'am, at any back room negotiation
28:14that often used to be the case?
28:15In the past, there would be enough mutual respect
28:18that you went to the, both sides went to the speaker's chamber
28:21and sorted it out.
28:23Now, even that doesn't happen.
28:24There is absolutely no dialogue.
28:30See, Sri Kiran, Rijuji yesterday stood up.
28:33Today, there was absolutely no chance
28:35because there were four adjournments.
28:37Yesterday, he stood up and he said
28:38that he met two senior leaders in his chamber.
28:42One, of course, he named Sri Kishi Venugopalji
28:45and another very senior leader he named.
28:48He said they had come and we had discussion.
28:50It's not that back room parlays don't take place.
28:53The point is, it's a question of their relevance.
28:56They want to stop Prime Minister from talking.
28:59Now, what does it prove?
29:00See, he's the Prime Minister of the country.
29:02You may like it or not like it,
29:04but he has been chosen by the people for the third time.
29:07He's extremely popular.
29:08We have to accept it and acknowledge it.
29:11But Rahul Gandhi should also get the same kind of benefit.
29:12He is the leader of the Lok Sabha.
29:14But similarly, you must be ready to listen to Rahul Gandhi
29:17and they must be ready to listen to the Prime Minister.
29:19I have all respect for leader of opposition Sri Rahul Gandhiji not saying no.
29:28And all the while, the chair kept on saying we want to listen to the LOP.
29:33But then, you know, showing that book, showing that unpublished material,
29:36whatever it was related to Indochina conflict,
29:39what was the need, what was the relevance?
29:42That is the whole issue.
29:43So, I think, if he would have belleworthy speak,
29:46he would have been very happy.
29:47Whether it is relevant or not,
29:51you know, there are ways,
29:52Parliament has ways in which you can address those issues.
29:55It need not be that you stop an individual.
29:57But Manikam Takor,
29:58the feeling is Rahul Gandhi,
30:00according to the government,
30:01is this permanently angry young man.
30:02And now, the word used by Aparajita is arrogant.
30:05That if he is not allowed to speak on his terms,
30:08then he is not going to accept the ruling of the speaker.
30:11And even outside the parliament,
30:13we saw what happened today,
30:15the fraka with Ramneet Bittu.
30:17Is any of this really necessary?
30:19Why have any of this?
30:21Is it really necessary?
30:23Three things I have to answer.
30:25You have to give me time.
30:27My learned colleague is a very respected person.
30:30And she said about the rule
30:32and quoted about books being displayed.
30:37Ma'am, we are asking the same rule.
30:39What happened to that same rule with Vishen Dube?
30:41Why that rule doesn't get implemented in that time?
30:45Because Vishen Dube was putting out published books.
30:49Rahul Gandhi had put out an unpublished book
30:51is the argument given by the speaker's chair.
30:54No, it's not like that.
30:55This is a published book.
30:56Rahul Gandhi was having a physical book
30:58which he will present tomorrow
30:59whenever Mr. Modi is coming.
31:01And he went to present to Honorable Speaker also that same book.
31:05That's an advanced copy
31:06that was eventually not published.
31:08But the point I'm making, Manikam Tagore,
31:10the argument being made
31:11is that the Congress Party is saying
31:13my way or the highway.
31:14The government is also saying that.
31:16I'm not saying.
31:16Government is also saying
31:17my way or the highway.
31:18Then how will we have parliament function?
31:21We want the parliament.
31:22One hour of the parliament function.
31:24Who blocked the opposition leader from speaking?
31:26The question is that only.
31:27We need to understand
31:28when Tejasvi Surya was making
31:30all kind of wild allegation,
31:31when the cabinet minister,
31:33when he started,
31:34Sarbanan Sonwalji spoke,
31:36when he alleged that Congress
31:37has neglected the Northeast.
31:39Nobody disturbed.
31:40We sat and listened to their fake narratives.
31:43But what we have to understand is
31:45when leader of opposition speaks,
31:46they are not ready to allow him to speak.
31:49Then the person,
31:50the ex-DGP of Andhra Pradesh
31:51who was in chair,
31:53the tone he used it.
31:54I have permitted you
31:55for this purpose.
31:56I will not permit you.
31:58This is not the tone of the honorable speaker.
32:00You need to understand it.
32:02Who is the chair?
32:02Is there?
32:03Honorable speaker's right.
32:05He elected honorable speaker.
32:08And honorable speaker is the person.
32:10He deputes somebody as chair.
32:12Their language is the problem.
32:14Regarding the arrogance part,
32:16you said.
32:16Then third,
32:17I'll come to you,
32:17the third thing.
32:18We have to understand it.
32:19Your visuals will show
32:20where we were sitting.
32:22I am one of the suspended MPs.
32:23My learned colleague
32:24has passed through
32:25in the morning also
32:26and the afternoon also
32:27she has passed through
32:28when we are protesting.
32:29We were sitting
32:31and there is no disturbance.
32:33There were
32:33few of our BJP MPs
32:35will comment on us.
32:36We will have a comment,
32:38sarcastic comment
32:39passed like this.
32:40Mrs. Nirmala Sitaraman
32:41passed through us.
32:42There was no comments exchanged.
32:43Rajna Singhji passed over.
32:44No comments were exchanged.
32:46He told that
32:47Geetra Okarge,
32:48he went on.
32:48Therefore,
32:49these are all the
32:50people who behaved
32:52dignified.
32:53What Bittu did it?
32:55When he was walking
32:55from that,
32:56he is saying,
32:57he is saying,
32:58he is saying,
32:58he is saying,
32:58he is saying,
32:59he is saying,
33:01he is saying,
33:02he is saying,
33:02he is saying,
33:04he is saying,
33:06he is insulting
33:09two Punjab MPs
33:13who are sitting there
33:14as suspended MPs.
33:15How can his name
33:16like this?
33:17You know,
33:18the fact is,
33:18this is all very sad.
33:20We are now getting news
33:21that there may be
33:21no Prime Minister's
33:22speech also in the
33:23Lok Sabha.
33:24So,
33:24Aparajitra Sarangi,
33:25the feeling I get is that
33:26while Rahul Gandhi,
33:29you accuse of being
33:29arrogant,
33:30there is a feeling
33:30that Prime Minister
33:31Modi also is
33:32contemptuous of the
33:33opposition.
33:34That he doesn't care,
33:36even if he does,
33:37this will be the
33:37first time in the
33:38history,
33:39this will be the
33:40first time in the
33:40history of the
33:41Lok Sabha
33:41that the Prime Minister
33:42will not speak
33:43in a motion of
33:44thanks.
33:45Is this the kind of
33:46precedent you want
33:47to say?
33:51Please allow me to
33:52disagree with you.
33:53Today,
33:54Honorable Prime
33:54Minister wanted to
33:56speak right on
33:58dot 5pm and we
34:00were all waiting.
34:01You are aware of
34:01that.
34:02And suddenly,
34:04the women
34:05parliamentarians of
34:06the Congress came
34:07with a big banner
34:09with something written
34:10on it and they
34:11blocked the
34:12pathway of the
34:14Honorable Prime
34:14Minister to his
34:15chair.
34:16We all went
34:17there.
34:17Believe me,
34:17I was also one
34:18of those,
34:19you can see the
34:19video.
34:20I was aghast.
34:21I didn't know
34:21what was happening.
34:23And then I went
34:23to that particular
34:25point, all other
34:25parliamentarians from
34:26our side, from
34:27treasury benches
34:28were also there.
34:29We didn't know
34:29what was a ruckus,
34:30what was happening.
34:31And these ladies,
34:33with all regards for
34:34them, they almost
34:35blocked the path.
34:36Now, how does the
34:37Prime Minister come
34:37to the chair to
34:38speak?
34:39Now, if he would
34:40have come, there
34:42would have been some
34:43more unpleasantness,
34:44some untoward
34:45incident in the
34:46Lok Sabha and then
34:47it would have
34:48actually got blown
34:49up.
34:49So, maybe I think
34:50in the fitness of
34:51things, Prime
34:52Minister chose not
34:53to come.
34:53What stops Rahul
34:54Gandhi and Prime
34:55Minister from...
34:56You see, the
34:57problem is, in
34:58the past, ma'am,
34:59leader of the
34:59opposition and the
35:00government had
35:01respect for each
35:01other.
35:02Or the Prime
35:02Minister and the
35:03leader of the
35:03opposition, they
35:04could talk to
35:04each other.
35:05Now, they don't
35:05even talk to
35:06each other.
35:07I am being very
35:08clear about this.
35:09They should be
35:10picking up and
35:10treasury benches,
35:11Rijuju, should be
35:13calling a meeting
35:13where the Prime
35:14Minister and Rahul
35:15Gandhi are present.
35:16Sort this out.
35:17This is not the
35:17way a parliament
35:18should run, ma'am,
35:19with due regard.
35:20Mr. Rijuju should
35:21pick up the phone
35:21to Rahul Gandhi and
35:23the Prime Minister
35:24should talk to each
35:24other and sort it
35:25out.
35:30See, it is
35:31easier said than
35:32done when you
35:33see the other
35:33side displaying
35:35such undignified
35:37behaviour.
35:39Do you think you
35:39will feel like
35:40calling up the
35:41person concerned?
35:42I mean, dignity
35:43of the Lok Sabha
35:44has to be honoured
35:45and we all have
35:46to behave in a
35:48befitting manner.
35:49You know, it's
35:50extremely important
35:51and whatever they
35:52have been doing,
35:53completely unbecoming
35:54of parliamentarians.
35:55And they have to
35:56agree to that.
35:57You know, they
35:57may like, they
35:58may not like, but
35:59I think they have
36:00to agree to that.
36:00Every time the
36:01opposition parliamentarians
36:04will come over to
36:04this side when our
36:05leaders are speaking,
36:07any minister speaking,
36:08they would come over.
36:09You know, today when
36:10Honourable Commerce
36:11Minister was reading
36:13out from a piece of
36:14paper, all these people
36:16came and showed the
36:17placards.
36:18What is this going on?
36:20Why should you be
36:21coming over to this
36:22side?
36:22There is a way of
36:23registering your
36:24podcast.
36:24Either way, what I'm
36:25seeing...
36:26You cannot just
36:26disrupt a speaker.
36:27You will blame them,
36:28they will blame you.
36:29At the end of the
36:30day, another day in
36:31the country's
36:32parliamentary history
36:33has been lost and
36:34wasted and now the
36:35news comes that the
36:36motion of thanks on
36:37president's address will
36:38be passed without the
36:40prime minister's speech
36:41taking place, which is
36:42unprecedented in the
36:44history of the
36:45Lok Sabha.
36:46And a sad day in
36:47many ways if this is
36:49what our Lok Sabha has
36:51been reduced to, a
36:51complete breakdown in
36:53trust between the
36:54government and the
36:56opposition.
36:56The opposition
36:57leader's speech was
36:58not allowed to be
36:59completed and now we
37:00are told the prime
37:01minister will also not
37:04speak.
37:04Who is to blame?
37:06What is one to say?
37:08Thank you both very
37:09much though for joining
37:09us.
37:10I want to shift focus
37:12from there to another
37:13thing, to another event
37:14that has been
37:15unprecedented.
37:16For the first time in
37:17the country's history,
37:19a sitting chief minister
37:20went and appeared before
37:21the Supreme Court to
37:23argue her case.
37:24West Bengal chief
37:25minister Mamata
37:26Banerjee personally
37:27appeared and argued
37:28before the Apex
37:29court against the
37:30SIR exercise in the
37:32state.
37:32Here's a report on
37:33what unfolded in the
37:34latest episode of
37:36Mamata versus the
37:37election commission,
37:38this time in the
37:39Supreme Court.
37:44A sitting chief
37:45minister arguing a
37:46case in the Supreme
37:48Court, a rare sight.
37:51West Bengal chief
37:52minister Mamata
37:52Banerjee takes a fight
37:54against the special
37:55intensive division and
37:56the election commission
37:57to the Supreme Court.
37:59She appeared in person
38:01on Wednesday when the
38:02matter was taken up by a
38:03three-judge bench headed
38:05by Chief Justice of
38:06India, Surya Kant.
38:08After the senior lawyers
38:09argued her case, Mamata
38:11sought the court's
38:12permission to present some
38:13arguments herself.
38:16Claiming she was appearing
38:17before the court as a
38:19litigant and a resident of
38:20Bengal, Mamata Banerjee told
38:22the court that the SIR
38:23process is being used only
38:25for deletion instead of
38:27mapping.
38:28She said the election
38:28commission was using
38:29micro-observers, BJP rule
38:31state, who do not
38:32understand Bangla, to
38:34delete voters, citing
38:35logical discrepancy.
38:37Mamata claimed the
38:38election commission had
38:39refused to accept Aadhar
38:40cards, domicile certificate
38:42and other state identity
38:43cards.
38:44Citing newspaper reports and
38:46photos, Mamata also alleged
38:47over 150 deaths of BLOs,
38:50particularly those who had
38:52died by suicide due to the
38:53work pressure.
38:54Chief Minister claimed the
38:56election commission had
38:57become WhatsApp commission,
38:58where the decision
38:59communicated by micro-
39:00observers is accepted for
39:02mass deletions.
39:04When the election
39:04commission's lawyer,
39:05Rakesh Devedi claimed
39:06non-cooperation by the
39:08state government and said
39:09micro-observers were
39:10required as the state
39:12government had not deputed
39:13enough SDMs.
39:15Mamata claimed her
39:16government has provided
39:17all available officers.
39:19The court issued notice
39:21to the election commission
39:22and asked the chief
39:23minister to ensure
39:24enough officers are
39:25deputed to work with
39:26the EC.
39:28The election commission
39:36will say that micro-observers
39:39are only being appointed
39:41to observe.
39:41If the ERO is agreeing
39:45with the micro-observer's
39:46comment or observation,
39:48your name is automatically
39:49being deleted.
39:51I have concrete proof.
39:53The lead lawyer of the EC
39:54accused Mamata Banerjee
39:56of politicizing the issue.
39:59There is no particular bias
40:01against state of West Bengal.
40:03Whatever allegations the
40:06Honorable Chief Minister
40:07had made,
40:08those allegations
40:11according to the
40:12election commission
40:13are completely
40:14misconceived.
40:16Are basically meant
40:17for narrative setting
40:18in politics.
40:19That's what the
40:20election commission
40:21unfortunately has been
40:22facing is.
40:23The Supreme Court has
40:24now listed the matter
40:25for the upcoming Monday
40:26and the Trunamul Congress
40:28is now suggesting that
40:29she may once again
40:30appear on Monday.
40:32As of now,
40:33the Supreme Court
40:33has suggested that
40:34if the West Bengal
40:36government successfully
40:37deputes officers
40:38because they've asked
40:39a list of officers
40:40from the Trunamul Congress
40:42as well.
40:42If that is given
40:43by the Trunamul Congress
40:45and that is accepted
40:46in the court,
40:47then the requirement
40:49of micro-observers
40:50can be done away with.
40:51This is something
40:52that the Trunamul
40:53is right now
40:54maintaining
40:54as a massive success
40:56before the court of law.
40:57With video journalists
40:59Pradeep Gupta
40:59and Anisha Mathur,
41:01this is Shriya Chatterjee
41:02for India Today.
41:04Okay, let's turn then
41:06to what will be
41:07our continuing focus
41:08over the next week.
41:09Remember,
41:10earlier this week,
41:11US President Donald Trump
41:13and Prime Minister Modi
41:14announced the signing
41:15of the much-awaited
41:16Indo-US trade deal.
41:18While the government
41:19has laid out
41:19the broad contours
41:20in Parliament,
41:21the specifics
41:22are still missing.
41:24Commerce Minister
41:24reiterating the government's
41:26assurance that
41:26farmers' interests
41:27would be safeguarding,
41:29stressing that
41:31agriculture and dairy sectors
41:33will be protected.
41:34But what does
41:35the trade deal
41:36really mean?
41:37Is it really
41:38a game-changer?
41:40Over the next few days,
41:41we'll be speaking
41:42to several leading
41:43voices on this.
41:44I'm joined today
41:45by a very special guest
41:46from the United States.
41:48Dr. Arvind Panagriya
41:49has been Chairman
41:50of the 16th Finance Commission,
41:52former Vice Chairman
41:52Neeti Aiyog,
41:54and he is, of course,
41:55one of the world's
41:55leading experts,
41:57a professor at
41:58Columbia University
41:58when it comes
41:59to trade policy.
42:01Appreciate
42:01you're joining us,
42:02Dr. Panagriya.
42:04Now that that announcement
42:05has been made,
42:07your first reaction
42:08I read was to call it
42:09the father and mother
42:11of all trade deals.
42:12Do you really believe
42:13that the celebration
42:14should not be...
42:15Do you believe
42:15the celebration
42:16should be put on
42:17pause mode
42:18till we see the details
42:19of the deal?
42:20What makes you believe
42:21already that this deal
42:22is the father of all deals,
42:24sir?
42:24As for a celebration
42:28is concerned,
42:29you know,
42:30I don't mind
42:30having two celebrations,
42:32so I would not
42:33put it on hold,
42:34at least for the first one.
42:37And from India's
42:39point of view,
42:40the two deals together
42:42do actually make
42:43the mother and father
42:44of all deals
42:44because these are
42:46the two largest entities
42:47with which we trade
42:49globally.
42:51you've got Europe
42:53and that agreement
42:54gives India
42:55tariff-free access
42:57to the European market
42:58and then you've got
43:00the United States
43:01where we have
43:03not tariff-free access
43:05but access at tariffs
43:07that are lower
43:08than most of our competitors.
43:10So in a way,
43:11from any potential
43:13investor's viewpoint,
43:15India now becomes
43:15an extremely attractive
43:16location,
43:19both because of
43:20these two deals,
43:21the market now
43:22enlarges considerably,
43:24not to mention
43:25India's own
43:26substantial market.
43:28But also India
43:28has a very large
43:31workforce,
43:32about maybe
43:32600 million or so,
43:35with more or less
43:38all levels of skills
43:39being available here.
43:41So I think
43:42if we also do
43:44a few more
43:45things internally
43:47to make
43:47the business
43:50environment
43:50yet more
43:51friendly
43:52for the businesses,
43:54I think
43:55we are well
43:56within
43:57reach
44:01for the
44:012047
44:03Viksit Bharat
44:04ambition
44:05to be realized.
44:07But,
44:07but,
44:08but Dr. Panagriya,
44:10the U.S.,
44:10many of its officials,
44:11the U.S. president
44:12have claimed
44:13that India
44:13will reduce tariffs
44:14and non-tariff barriers
44:16against certain
44:16U.S. products
44:17to zero.
44:18They've not given
44:19the product list
44:20timelines or legal
44:21tests,
44:21but this has led
44:22to concerns
44:23that that,
44:24while this will be
44:24a win for America
44:25and its economy,
44:27we are still not sure
44:28what zero tariffs
44:29impact will,
44:30it will have on India.
44:31Will it lead to
44:32America flooding
44:33Indian products,
44:34markets with its
44:35products,
44:35and we may not
44:36necessarily get
44:37similar benefits
44:38of Indian products
44:39going to America,
44:40where there is still
44:41an 18% tariff
44:42and we are not
44:43as competitive?
44:48So,
44:48let me first
44:50address your first
44:51question.
44:51There are two
44:52questions you have
44:52asked.
44:53On,
44:54on America flooding
44:55the market,
44:57as a trade economist,
44:58I totally see it
44:59the opposite way,
45:00that there is a
45:03tendency,
45:04a very strong one
45:06actually,
45:06to neglect
45:07and completely
45:08ignore actually
45:10the benefits
45:10that accrue
45:11to consumers
45:12when you
45:12liberalize trade.
45:14Unfortunately,
45:15you know,
45:16trade economists
45:17in fact always
45:17emphasize the
45:18benefits to the
45:19consumers,
45:20whereas in the
45:22policy space,
45:23consumer interests
45:24are completely
45:25neglected.
45:26And I sort of
45:28really greatly
45:28appreciate it
45:29personally because
45:29I went to the
45:31United States
45:31in the mid-1970s
45:34when we in India
45:35used to be
45:36practically an
45:38autarkic trade
45:39regime,
45:39meaning we
45:39hardly traded.
45:41And the kinds
45:42of goods that
45:42I saw in the
45:43United States,
45:44I'd never seen
45:45actually in India.
45:47You know,
45:47now things have
45:47changed.
45:48We are open
45:49economy,
45:49so therefore we
45:50do see goods
45:51coming in and
45:52all.
45:53But I cannot
45:57neglect the
45:58benefits to the
45:59consumer.
46:00So there are
46:01some sensitivities.
46:02I understand we
46:03can come talk
46:03about that in
46:05agriculture,
46:06et cetera.
46:06but overall I
46:08see our own
46:09liberalization as
46:10a positive
46:10for consumer
46:12benefits reason
46:13but also because
46:13it makes our
46:14industry more
46:15competitive.
46:16You know,
46:16you have to
46:17compete against
46:18the best in
46:18the world and
46:19that is what
46:20brings out the
46:20best out of
46:21you.
46:22I mean,
46:22it is not a
46:23coincidence that
46:24a lot of the
46:24scholars who
46:25operate in the
46:28global marketplace
46:29generally do
46:29better.
46:30If I may
46:33stop you,
46:34if you are
46:34saying that
46:35American goods
46:36coming into
46:36India at
46:37zero tariffs,
46:38are you saying
46:39that Indian
46:39companies will
46:40be able to
46:41compete with
46:41the Americans
46:42on a level
46:42playing field?
46:44Are we really
46:44in a position,
46:45sir, to compete
46:46fully with
46:47America when
46:48it comes to
46:49their products?
46:50Yes, and I
46:57really think,
46:58you know,
46:58again, look at
46:59our own
46:59experience in
47:001991 when
47:02we first
47:02opened up.
47:03There were so
47:04many kind of
47:05these fearful
47:06voices, even
47:08some of our
47:10industrialists
47:10arguing against
47:11this liberalization
47:12at the time
47:13and all.
47:13But actually,
47:14you know,
47:15what followed
47:15was much
47:16greater strength
47:17evolving into
47:19the Indian
47:19industry.
47:20Today,
47:20the Indian
47:20industry is
47:21way stronger.
47:22I think there's
47:22no comparison
47:23what our
47:23industry looked
47:24like in
47:24the 1990s
47:25and what it
47:26looks like
47:27today.
47:29You know,
47:29even if I
47:31give you some
47:31numbers, you
47:32know, in
47:322002, our
47:33exports of
47:34merchandise
47:34were about
47:35$50 billion.
47:36By 2011,
47:38less than a
47:39decade later,
47:40they were
47:41$300 billion.
47:42The six-fold
47:43increase within
47:43a decade,
47:44it's very
47:45rare for
47:45anything to
47:46go up six-fold
47:47within a decade.
47:49So, you
47:50know, competition
47:50does do good
47:51things for you.
47:53No doubt,
47:53those who cannot
47:54compete and
47:55are incredibly
47:56inefficient, then
47:57they are using
47:57resources
47:58inefficiently for
47:59the country as
47:59a whole and
48:00they ought to
48:01go elsewhere.
48:03So, some
48:03adjustment would be
48:04required, but
48:05we have got to
48:06allow that
48:07competition to
48:07happen.
48:08So, net,
48:09net, Dr.
48:10Panagriya, you
48:11are telling me
48:12you believe this
48:13trade deal, we
48:14are moving in
48:15the right direction
48:16after years of
48:17protectionism.
48:18You believe that
48:19we finally recognize
48:20the importance of
48:21trade liberalization
48:22and in a sense,
48:23perhaps, you see
48:24this much like
48:251991 as an
48:27opportunity that
48:28can enable
48:28industry in
48:29India to make
48:30a great leap
48:31forward.
48:31Am I broadly
48:32correct, sir?
48:33Yes.
48:38I fully agree
48:39with your
48:40summary, Rajdeep,
48:41and I would
48:43say that, you
48:43know, what we
48:44have done now
48:44with the two
48:45deals, actually
48:47amounts to
48:48something bigger
48:49than 1991.
48:50You are making
48:51a pretty big
48:52statement to me,
48:53sir.
48:53You are saying
48:54that this is an
48:55even bigger
48:56moment than
48:561991.
48:59Having studied
49:00both 1991
49:01and today?
49:06Well, that's
49:07something we
49:07can debate
49:08someday, you
49:09know, having
49:10studied both
49:111991 and what
49:13is happening
49:13currently, I
49:15feel pretty
49:15confident of
49:16what I am
49:16saying.
49:17You know, I
49:17am including
49:18also some of
49:19the big reforms
49:19we have done
49:20in 2025, the
49:21labor law
49:22reform in
49:22particular and
49:23all.
49:23So, if I
49:24put that 25
49:25reforms and
49:26these two
49:27deals together,
49:28that certainly
49:29is a lot
49:30bigger than
49:301991.
49:33Interesting.
49:34Dr. Arvind
49:34Panagriya
49:35claiming that if
49:36we get our
49:36trade policy
49:37right, you
49:38believe this
49:38can be a
49:38bigger moment
49:39than 1991.
49:41As I said,
49:41we'll get a
49:42variety of
49:42voices, sir,
49:43but I
49:43appreciate you
49:44joining us
49:45over the
49:45next few
49:45days.
49:46We will
49:46look for
49:47voices who
49:48can tell
49:49us what
49:50really this
49:51deal could
49:51mean for the
49:52Indian economy,
49:53both the
49:53positives and
49:54indeed the
49:55questions.
49:56Let's turn
49:57to tonight's
49:58good news
49:58today's story.
49:59In the
49:59freezing cold
50:00of Jammu's
50:01Araspura
50:02sector, a
50:02mother's
50:03quiet devotion
50:04is keeping
50:05a hero's
50:06memory alive.
50:06Every morning,
50:07Jaswan
50:08Kaur visits
50:08the statue
50:09of her
50:09son, BSF
50:10Constable
50:11Gurnam
50:11Singh,
50:12cleaning
50:12its
50:12surroundings.
50:13Singh, who
50:13was killed
50:14in action
50:14in 2016
50:15while foiling
50:16an infiltration
50:17attempt, remains
50:18a symbol of
50:19courage and
50:20sacrifice.
50:21For his
50:21family, the
50:21pain never
50:22fades, but
50:23their pride
50:24in his
50:24bravery burns
50:25ever stronger.
50:26Take a
50:27look.
50:30In the
50:30biting cold
50:31of Jammu's
50:32Araspura
50:32sector, a
50:33silent gesture
50:34speaks louder
50:35than words.
50:37A mother
50:38visits the
50:38statue of
50:39her son every
50:39morning and
50:40cleans the
50:41surroundings.
50:44Jaswan
50:44Kaur has
50:45also draped
50:45a blanket
50:46around BSF
50:46Constable
50:47Gurnam
50:48Singh's
50:48statue to
50:49shield him
50:50from the
50:50cold.
50:51Just as
50:51she once
50:52used to
50:52do when
50:53he was
50:53alive.
50:55Gurnam
50:55Singh was
50:56killed in
50:56action in
50:562016 after
50:58foiling an
50:58infiltration
50:59attempt along
51:00the Indo-Pakistan
51:01border in
51:02the Hira
51:02Nagas
51:02sector of
51:03Kathwa.
51:21Kaur
51:22Kaur
51:23Kaur
51:23Kaur
51:23Kaur
51:24Kaur
51:24Kaur
51:24Kaur
51:25Kaur
51:25Kaur
51:26Kaur
51:26Kaur
51:27Kaur
51:27Kaur
51:27Kaur
51:28Kaur
51:28Kaur
51:29Kaur
51:29Kaur
51:30Kaur
51:30For the
51:31family,
51:31the pain
51:31remains
51:32raw.
51:33The pride
51:33unshakable.
51:34Kaur
51:35Kaur
51:36Kaur
51:36Kaur
51:37Kaur
51:37Kaur
51:38Kaur
51:38Kaur
51:39Kaur
51:39Kaur
51:39would
51:42get
51:43Let
51:43these
51:44fruits
51:48all
51:49Kaur
51:50Kaur
51:50Kaur
51:51will
51:52sacrifice
51:52saved
51:53many
51:53lives.
51:54His
51:54memory
51:55lives
51:55on.
51:58What
51:58you are
51:58seeing
51:59behind
51:59me
51:59is
52:00not
52:00just
52:00remembrance
52:01of
52:01a
52:01martyred
52:02soldier
52:02but
52:04mother's
52:05pain
52:05and
52:06eternal
52:06love
52:07for
52:07her
52:07son
52:08who
52:08laid
52:08down
52:09his
52:09life for the nation. Jaswant Kaur has draped her son's statue with a blanket in order to shield
52:17him from the bitter cold. These scenes have evoked emotions across the country. But it also highlights
52:26that the families of our martyred soldiers have to endure pain for a lifetime.
52:34With video journalist Eeraj Kumar, this is Sunil Bhatt reporting from Araspura Sector in Jammu for India Today.
53:04Carrying in highly inflammable gas, allegedly lost control on a slope overturned. Soon after the crash,
53:09gas began leaking from the tanker, prompting authorities to shut the Mumbai-bound carriageway
53:14as a safety measure. As you can see, that's the huge traffic jam right across the Mumbai-Pune Highway.
53:22We leave you with that image. Thanks for watching. Stay well. Stay safe. Good night, Shubratri.
53:31Jaihin Namaskar. News without the noise. I wish Parliament could also debate without the noise.
53:38Bye for now.
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