00:00You have to be beautiful, but not to worry about your appearance.
00:02You have to be intelligent, but not to destroy men.
00:05You have to be feminine and douce, but never coincée.
00:08Yes, and in fact, we...
00:10We have to be able to maintain these ideas, because they are impossible.
00:14And when we see people...
00:15It's a person who completely reject these ideas of perfection,
00:18and who can't be able to be...
00:20We have perfect mothers, perfect wives, perfect wives.
00:23We feel complexed, and we think...
00:25Well, I have a lot of mistakes.
00:27But maybe I can relax a little bit and accept that I won't be able to...
00:30and be perfect in all points.
00:31Rachel Green, in Friends, is becoming a heroine for many people.
00:35Well, I'm superficial.
00:36And so when I see Rachel Green, who is superficial,
00:38and we reproach her to be superficial...
00:40I recognize her because I also love romantic comedies,
00:43I love ragots.
00:44And it's not what I...
00:45It's not what I define Rachel, because she is much more complex than that.
00:49We don't want to...
00:50I also want to talk about maternity.
00:51It has a very important place in the book.
00:53We have a whole chapter, which is dedicated to...
00:55and to mothers who would be very imperfect,
00:58even who would be indignes or...
01:00Like, for example, the character of Lois, in the series Malcolm,
01:04who...
01:05and a mother a little excited,
01:08who is all the time crying...
01:10and, in fact, Lois,
01:11and she is all the time trying to punish her children.
01:13After, we can't really love her because...
01:15She has four and five sons who make a lot of nonsense...
01:20and, in fact, Lois...
01:21Lois, it's obvious that she can hurl...
01:23because she has a whole mental charge...
01:25and, in fact, her husband is always trying to make a lot of nonsense...
01:30to make a lot of nonsense...
01:31and, of course, he loves his sons...
01:32and, of course, he loves his sons...
01:33and, of course, he loves his sons...
01:34and, of course, he loves his sons...
01:35but he doesn't care about one, clearly...
01:35We have Christina Yang, of Grey's Anatomy...
01:37who is extremely ambitious...
01:40who refuses to have children...
01:43and, of course, she says to several times...
01:44she doesn't want to...
01:45and, if this character was written like this...
01:48it's because Shonda Rhimes, the creator...
01:50the actress of the series...
01:51wanted a character who doesn't have a child...
01:53that, for her, it was a combat...
01:55extremely important to lead to TV...
01:57At the beginning, we didn't have to include an abortion in the series...
02:00and, of course, the series became so popular...
02:03that we listened to it...
02:04and she managed to do what she wanted...
02:05and, of course, it's important, in fact,
02:06to watch the TV...
02:08but, also, to watch...
02:10to watch the characters...
02:11just because they don't want to be a mother...
02:13and they understand perfectly...
02:14because it's a...
02:15it's a pressure with which we grow very early...
02:17we ask if we want a child or not...
02:19if we have one...
02:20if we have one...
02:20and, of course, it's good to know...
02:22that there are other options...
02:23and that we can be perfectly happy...
02:24without having...
02:25and, of course...
02:26I've taken a certain pleasure...
02:27to discover the character of Carole Pelletier...
02:30in The Walking Dead...
02:31She will threaten children...
02:32by telling them...
02:33if they don't listen...
02:34...
02:35they will be able to get it...
02:36...
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02:59perfect woman, but in fact, she hides a much more sombre, much more violent.
03:04We always say that we are weak sex, that we can't defend ourselves.
03:06And so, to see this cursor...
03:09It's really pushed to the extreme, because Carole, not only she knows to defend herself, but she does a little bit too well.
03:14It's to say that she has a lot of people.
03:16It's a very enjoyable one because...
03:19The pop culture, it's a trope who was typically more reserved for men.
03:24What we think is that more we have more complex female characters...
03:29It's sometimes difficult to aim, there are many defects on screen.
03:33Plus...
03:34We can also have an image, in reality, of women who are...
03:39...complexes and...
03:41...bienveillantes...
03:42...sur ses défauts.
03:43Plus on...
03:44...we'll see...
03:45...a l'écran...
03:46...des femmes...
03:47...qu'on des poils...
03:48...qu'ils puent de la gueule...
03:49...qu'ils...
03:49...qui sont mauvaises mères...
03:50...qui peuvent parfois être agressives...
03:52...ou ne pas avoir les bonnes réactions.
03:54...qui adorent le sexe et ne s'en cachent pas...
03:56...qui sont parfois un petit peu mesquines.
03:59Enfin bref, qui ont énormément de défauts et d'imperfections.
04:02Moi, on sera intransigeants envers ces...
04:04...dans la vraie vie.
04:05En tout cas, j'espère.
04:06Oui.
04:09Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
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