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00:10Hello and welcome to Arts24. I'm Marjorie Hash.
00:15Getting Grounded with the French band who infuse Western psychedelic rock with Middle East.
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00:38woven a gorgeous international tapestry of music it was as much influenced by french
00:43songs and jazz as it was by alternative rock and they've just released their first EP which
00:48features a singing in Arabic Hebrew and French I'm delighted to welcome
00:53one of their singers and keyboardists Yael Miller and Thomas Caillou-Guitary
00:58thank you both very much for being with us on arts24 hello thank you
01:03yes no so for us who are getting to know you tell us a little bit where you're all from and
01:08how you met Yael so I'm from Israel and uh well
01:13who used to live in Geneva and I met the other band members uh Roland the drummer
01:18in Geneva and uh Baptiste the bass player and FlĂźgelhorn
01:23player in Paris and I'm from Paris and um
01:28I played with the other singer Donia before and I know Roland
01:33we studied together when we had played in a bunch of bands together so that's how the connection
01:38happened okay and so it's a mix of Tunisian uh Israeli French combo yeah
01:43lovely little melting pot yeah aha and uh now your name itself is Rhizome and that's the name of
01:48your first uh EP what is Rhizome uh Rhizome is um
01:53it's this image of um intertwined roots uh moving
01:58working and progressing together in uh um in the same fashion and
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02:08the world kind of needs these days, people going in the same direction.
02:13It's also sort of homage to French theory.
02:18So French philosophers, Deleuze et Gattari, amongst the millions.
02:23Other things that I certainly won't get into here, but describe the...
02:28this as some way of...
02:33going horizontally rather than in the more pyramid...
02:38kind of structure.
02:39That's something that we feel, yeah, it speaks to us.
02:42And we feel...
02:43it's a good image as well, or...
02:48a description of all the languages, all the different musical...
02:53influences that are in the band, and...
02:57Yeah.
02:58That's how we came with that.
02:59There's something quite unifying about it all.
03:01Exactly, yeah.
03:02I think that's great.
03:03Well...
03:03and the fact that you sing in so many languages is quite universal.
03:06We're going to check out one of the tracks.
03:08called Kalb Isha.
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04:21for me also to collaborate with people who sings in arabic and um this subject
04:26is really present in where i come from but it's also universal because we see it a lot i mean
04:31children who die young i mean without any reason i mean where
04:36it could have been avoided too so yeah and the mix of these two languages is
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04:41quite strong for me because the we play with the ambiguity of this
04:46sounds and uh i mean if people don't understand the lyrics well it's they can
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04:51just maybe maybe imagine something that is really punchy and
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04:56and uh and strong uh but yeah that's um no and i think
05:01it is fantastic that you sing in french arabic and uh hebrew especially
05:06current and current times i think it's something that sends a strong message and
05:09it goes against the idea
05:11further dividing people which i think is very uh
05:13important how did you uh take that on board
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05:16like this when you're making this record like the idea like when you're composing did it come
05:20naturally or was it
05:21so um well it started i mean we we are two bands originally i mean
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05:26it started with my trio with roland the drummer and batiste the bass player and the duo of dohny
05:31with thomas and so donia sang in arabic french i sang in
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05:36hebrew english and french and we mixed it together so i mean originally we were supposed to
05:41do one concert in geneva and then it was in 2020 then kovid happened
05:46and we postponed it again and again and so while we rehearsed we realized that
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05:51we wanted to create a common language so it wasn't all only about singing only in here
05:56hebrew only in arabic or only in french but to work on the ambiguity and
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06:01and the playfulness of this of these sounds so it was first i mean the
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06:06the idea of playing with sounds and then we realized that we have lots of common subjects to talk about
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06:11it was political but also more universal and also as the idea was
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06:44and then either DoĂąa or Yale will translate it.
06:49And that's also the reason why everything is always...
06:53And the same with those.
06:54The music side of thing with the sort of psychedelic rock mixing in like...
06:59your oriental tones, did that come naturally to all of you?
07:02Or is it something you were like, let's do it this way?
07:04Well, it took some time to look for that.
07:07I mean, we...
07:09It is why the EP is being released now in 2026 because...
07:14It took us time to understand what common musical language...
07:19we wanted to present.
07:21Yeah, yeah.
07:22So that psychedelic rock was...
07:24It was really present.
07:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:26And you were very alternative rock to Amar and a bit of jazz in your back...
07:29background, weren't you?
07:30Yeah, I think everyone has some...
07:32Yeah, some jazz in their background.
07:34And most of us grew up on rock as well.
07:38But yeah, that was...
07:39There was...
07:40The first track we recorded for us...
07:44We didn't release it, but it was a cover of Lhasa del Sela.
07:49Which is called El Desierto.
07:51And that's where the first hint of grunge...
07:54and alternative rock kind of emerged organically.
07:58Yeah.
07:59And then we were arranging a lot of songs and creating...
08:03And then, yeah...
08:04There was hints here and there like...
08:06Oh, this makes me think of...
08:08Are you mine?
08:09By the Arctic Monkeys?
08:10Yes.
08:11Or this makes me feel of a huge...
08:14wave of sound a la Godspeed you Black Emperor.
08:17Things like that.
08:18Kate Tempers.
08:19Yeah, yeah.
08:20So...
08:21Interesting.
08:22And also, you're going to be doing a live show this...
08:24week in Paris.
08:25First of all, I noticed that you've got a track also...
08:29called Gouda, which is a famous quarter in Paris.
08:32Yeah.
08:33Where would you like to play?
08:34In the world.
08:35From the Gouda to anywhere.
08:36Is there anything new?
08:37I mean...
08:38For me...
08:39It's like this...
08:40The energy of the band is...
08:41As it's...
08:42It is quite rock and...
08:44More and more punchy.
08:46I would like to play at rock...
08:49Clubs and...
08:50Something like...
08:51Something with...
08:52Standing up...
08:53Audio...
08:54Something...
08:54Something like...
08:55That we could...
08:56Yeah.
08:57Like send the energy to the audience.
08:58Something electric.
08:59Something electric.
09:00Yeah, yeah.
09:01Yeah, yeah.
08:59Well, we look forward to seeing you play around the world in the future.
09:03And...
09:04How about we...
09:04Take a little look at some other new releases.
09:07And we're going to start off with California's Poppy...
09:09Now, don't be fooled by her cute demeanor.
09:11The girl can switch from hardcore screaming...
09:13To...
09:14Tickly sweet melodies and just a breath.
09:16Her seventh studio album is called Empty Hands...
09:19Features the likes of Jordan Fish...
09:20A former member of...
09:21English metalcore band...
09:22Bring Me The Horizon.
09:24And this is the track...
09:25Guardian.
09:29Your next voice...
09:30Which is the track...
09:31Millions...
09:32Out of the way...
09:33It's a catch...
09:34You're ready to navigate...
09:35To...
09:36Mei...
09:37To...
09:38To...
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09:40To...
09:41You're ready....
09:42To...
09:43Go on.
09:45To...
09:46Come on.
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09:59Ah, yes.
10:04Poppy, who will be on tour around Europe in the month of March, and she'll actually
10:09be playing...
10:09Now over to British singer, songwriter, producer, and rapper...
10:14...who recently collaborated with Billie Eilish and is behind the soundtrack of a hit TV...
10:19...series Euphoria.
10:20He's set to release Cosmic Opera Act One this week.
10:24Which explores mental illness for an artist, the paranoia, the confirmation...
10:29...of threats, the desperate and unfulfilled pursuit of success.
10:33Now expect exciting...
10:34...beats and incredible horns.
10:36Here's just a teaser.
10:39Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
10:44I'm running like a bitch from my zeitgeist.
10:48I'm trying to get...
10:49...get a grip on my inside.
10:52I'm falling to the pit.
10:54...of the bottomless.
10:56Don't tell me I'm a gift for the fucker to...
10:59...and...
11:00...trick me.
11:01Pray for me.
11:02Pray for me.
11:04...insane.
11:05...noty.
11:06...noty.
11:07The whole...
11:09...the horns on that labyrinth track for his new Cosmic Opera.
11:13Now, would you guys...
11:14...imagine creating an opera?
11:16Is that something that we could fantasise in the future?
11:19For Rizom?
11:20Yeah, we actually had a side project at one point.
11:24...called Cartier General, where we invited five other singers...
11:27...from the Mediterranean area.
11:29So, where we could imagine an extended...
11:31Of course.
11:32...version of it all.
11:33Of course.
11:34...version of it all.
11:34We like writing and composing together, so...
11:37Yeah, and we...
11:38...different members have...
11:39...experiences...
11:40...of...
11:41...you, me, Donia...
11:42...have...
11:43...experiences...
11:44...with stage theatre as well.
11:45Okay.
11:46So, yeah, that would be a very interesting thing to do.
11:48Yeah, it could come naturally.
11:49All right.
11:50Well, I'm afraid that's all we've got time for.
11:52Thank you so much for coming on our...
11:53Thank you, Marjorie.
11:54Yes, 24.
11:56It's been an absolute pleasure having you.
11:58Remember Rizom's new EP...
11:59...that's its name...
12:00...is out.
12:01And we're going to play out with Mitsuki, the Japanese-American artist.
12:04This has dropped the first single for her upcoming album...
12:07...Nothing's About To Happen To Me, which...
12:09...is due out on February 27th.
12:11Now, going by the first track, we can expect...
12:14...that textured rock.
12:15And there's also this question, which I think we've all asked ourselves.
12:17Have you asked yourself this question?
12:19Where is my phone?
12:20Yeah, for sure.
12:21Everyone.
12:22Well, this is Mitsuki asking it.
12:24...with a very fantastic video.
12:29Where's my phone?
12:31Where's my phone?
12:33Where's my phone?
12:34Are you ready?
12:35Yeah.
12:36ŃĐşŃпоŃиП tav.."
12:37Alrighty, guys I mean.
12:39You
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