00:00This was Nick Casario yesterday doing his best, I guess, to explain where we're at with Joe Mixon right now.
00:09So as it pertains to Joe, here's what I would say.
00:12It was a very unique situation.
00:14I don't think anybody really had any clarity, honestly, from the start of the year until now.
00:18I'd say Joe worked very, very hard to try to get himself ready to play football.
00:23It just never manifests itself and came to fruition.
00:25So probably have an opportunity to kind of see where he is in the offseason.
00:30Relative to next year.
00:31But, again, it was very, it was as unique a situation and injury as I've been associated with.
00:37And it's just, I don't want to call it a freak thing, but it's just kind of a freak thing.
00:41And Joe worked really hard, you know, put his best foot forward.
00:45It just, it didn't work out.
00:47Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I think, just based on all the tea leaves and everything,
00:53the way this thing has been handled, it's just, there's some long, there's some chronic condition here
00:59that's just not resolved to happen, whether it's circulation, nervous system, drop foot,
01:06whatever it might be.
01:07And they don't want to give the full details on it.
01:10But I'd like, I've just, I've seen this happen with athletes before.
01:13A lot of times, it's the thing that does end their career.
01:16And you never hear about them again.
01:17So that's the, I'm not optimistic that we're going to see Joe Mixon.
01:22I'm really not optimistic that we're going to see the best version of Joe Mixon.
01:25Who knows?
01:26They might figure something out.
01:28I don't know.
01:29It's, you know, and I've got another thought on it to follow up with that.
01:32But one more from Casario here.
01:34Aaron Wilson essentially asked Nick Casario, because it's a non-football,
01:38it's categorized as a non-football injury.
01:41Yeah.
01:41Is there any light you can shed on how the injury happened?
01:44Yeah, no, I would say he didn't do anything off the field.
01:47It wasn't like he was riding like a snowmobile or anything like that.
01:50I'd say it was just more of a medical condition or situation that just, we never, it really didn't improve
01:57maybe as much as everybody would have hoped.
01:59I mean, I'm not trying to, like, evade the question.
02:02I think that's the reality of the situation.
02:03So, like, he didn't jump off a building.
02:04Like, he wasn't cliff diving or anything like that.
02:07He wasn't doing anything irresponsible.
02:09It was just, it was a freak thing.
02:11Honestly, I'd never seen it.
02:12You know, just the condition.
02:14I hope that situation will improve before next time.
02:16We'll see.
02:17I mean, believe me, I'm not smart enough to be a doctor.
02:19So, I mean, I'll leave that up to the medical experts.
02:22And, you know, once we, going back to some of the other questions,
02:24as we get a little bit more clarity, more information,
02:26then we'll kind of see where we are moving forward.
02:28So, the one thing, you and I, we played this the second time we played this cut on the show.
02:32And earlier when you and I were talking about it,
02:35we talked more about the medical side and the mystery of this whole thing
02:38and the fact that it's not getting better.
02:41It's going to all of a sudden magically get better in time for next season.
02:44The one thing we didn't point out, and this is a harsh reality of it,
02:48is in the NFL, is the Texans can save like $8 million off the cap by cutting Joe Mixon.
02:53Yeah.
02:54You know, there's a financial component to this that is crucial,
02:58especially as the Texans continue to pay higher and higher salaries to some of their guys.
03:04Plus, the other thing, too, regarding, okay, it didn't happen, you know,
03:09when he was out water skiing or something like that.
03:11I mean, there's more and more credence to the notion that it didn't happen through anything weird
03:18the longer it goes on because it's just, it's obviously some kind of longstanding condition.
03:24It's not something where he's been laid up in bed for three months
03:27after a catastrophic accident or something.
03:29We've seen him walking around without a boot, et cetera.
03:32So, it's just, there's whatever the hell the condition is,
03:35they can categorize it as non-football just because it didn't happen in a football game
03:40or at a football practice, but it doesn't mean that it can't be a physical ailment.
03:43Yep.
03:44I had a teammate once who had gout.
03:45That was his, that was his cross to bear.
03:48And we made so much fun of him, which I'm sure was politically incorrect and what have you.
03:52I apologize to any gout sufferers out there,
03:55but it's hilarious when it's a 27-year-old having this old man's rich man's disease.
03:59Yeah.
03:59And he got it, he never started coming down with gout until after he'd gotten his first contract.
04:07The rich man's disease it is.
04:09Oh, my God.
04:09Yeah.
04:10Joe Mixon had gout.
04:11He missed the season with gout.
04:13With gout.
04:14That would be something.
04:14I guess they used to call it a rich man's disease because, you know,
04:18only rich people could eat seafood and it wasn't that much of a...
04:22Oh, really?
04:23It was overindulgence in some respect.
04:25You know, it wasn't until like the last 50 years that it became so easy to get fat.
04:31Yeah.
04:31You used to really have to work to find those calories, you know?
04:34You had to be pretty wealthy to be super fat.
04:36I've never gotten the gout.
04:37Have you gotten the gout before?
04:38No.
04:39God, I hope I never do.
04:40Not that everybody who has it is fat.
04:42No.
04:42Sorry.
04:43No.
04:43But you've got a reaction to certain foods.
04:45Yes, that's all it is.
04:46But if you have that reaction to foods and you can afford a boatload of that good,
04:49you know, red meat and wine and everything, then you might exacerbate it.
04:53We'll hear from Pac-Man Jones and his quarterback take in the next segment.
05:00So there's six openings now.
05:02Arizona for head coach in the NFL.
05:05Arizona, Baltimore, although it sounds like Jesse Minter is getting more and more likely there.
05:12Buffalo, Cleveland, Vegas, and Pittsburgh.
05:15Other than Arizona, these are all AFC jobs.
05:18So these all factor in, other than Arizona, they all factor into the Texans to some degree.
05:23We got to hope that all these teams make horrible hires.
05:26That they make bad decisions.
05:27Yeah.
05:28Which...
05:28Randy Udisky is the interesting one.
05:30He's the offensive coordinator in Jacksonville.
05:32He's known as a whiz kid.
05:33A lot of the buzz around him sounds a lot like Sean McVay type buzz.
05:37Yeah.
05:37That he's this, it's, don't let his youthful appearance fool you.
05:43He actually really knows what he's doing.
05:45So that could go one of two ways.
05:47Either he's going to be a cocky, brash, young, knows he's a genius type of guy.
05:52Yep.
05:52And he goes down in flames.
05:53Or he's a cocky, young, brash guy who genuinely does know what he's doing.
05:57And he ends up being awesome.
05:59He is the favorite in Cleveland.
06:01The betting favorite in Cleveland.
06:03And I, as you know, I dip in on Cleveland more than most markets to listen in the morning.
06:07Because I think the morning guys there are excellent.
06:09Oh, I do not want a 30-year-old handling that Shadur Sanders scenario.
06:13They're talking themselves into Udinski right now.
06:15I mean, the pressure that's on that guy immediately on however the hell that organization is dealing with Shadur Sanders.
06:22Whether the organization themselves actually likes Shadur Sanders or not.
06:26But how the fan base is divided over Shadur Sanders, everything else.
06:29Man, you are walking into a buzzsaw.
06:31Yeah.
06:32Good luck, 29-year-old.
06:34But you're also 29 years old making a head coach's salary in the NFL.
06:38That's pretty sweet.
06:38That's a good point.
06:39That does offset a lot of it.
06:40And we learned from Cleveland that if guys are truly well thought of, we just learned it with Stefanski.
06:46Stefanski got fired in Cleveland.
06:49Won three games last year in Atlanta.
06:51Couldn't wait to hire him.
06:52You know, like I think there's a lot of blame that goes on in the, you know, I think around football, I think people look at certain jobs and go, all right, well, that was, that's Cleveland.
07:02The guy's not a bad coach.
07:04Right, but, right, right.
07:05It won't be a death sentence.
07:06Honestly, the money's like Udinski can get another head coaching job somewhere else.
07:10Yeah.
07:10At some point in the next couple years, most likely.
07:13So, I don't, I don't think that the money's the thing that makes you step into a situation where, whether you love Shadur Sanders or hate Shadur Sanders or somewhere in between, I think we can all agree.
07:24Can we all get together in a group hug?
07:26Shadur lovers and Shadur haters alike and say, boy, the Browns have made this ten times worse than it even needed to be.
07:32Oh, yeah.
07:32Just by virtue of having a Baker's dozen quarterbacks on the roster at the beginning of the season and everything else.
07:39It's just, that's the, it seems like the team that's least capable to actually get the best out of the Shadur Sanders situation.
07:46Is that the juiciest one of these openings right now, Seth, for you?
07:49Is that the one you're most interested in?
07:51I think Baltimore is the one.
07:52Baltimore and Buffalo.
07:53They have their quarterbacks.
07:55Yeah.
07:55Like, they have, they are ready-made.
07:57They're the ones that, on paper, it looks like you should be loving to get in there, except for there's all these questions as to why did it go south for John Harbaugh and Sean McDermott, two of the winningest coaches over the last decade.
08:10Why is it that they have these quarterbacks?
08:13Am I, am I the guy that's going to fix what John Harbaugh and Sean McDermott couldn't fix?
08:19Two of the last three MVPs of the league have head coaching job openings right now.
08:25And that's when, when I say that, it's not because of a lack of confidence or anything that those guys might not think that they're the guy.
08:31It's that what all of these head coaches, the advice they give to other young guys who are thinking about becoming head coaches is that you got to really figure out if that organization is a match for you.
08:42Because there's some things that you can step into that it's just not the right fit and you might be doomed from the beginning.
08:48And I think you got to, you got to look at it and wonder, all right, what, what exactly was holding Sean McDermott back?
08:54John Harbaugh, they've got these quarterbacks, supposedly everything that you want, multiple MVPs between the two of them.
09:01Why could they not make it work?
09:03Indeed.
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