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00:06Mary Cosby on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
00:09was the reason that people were watching the show.
00:12Married to her grandmother's husband.
00:16That gives me creep vibes.
00:18You married your grandma and that's it.
00:21She's a pastor.
00:22There was a lot of chatter that Mary was running a cult from Faith Temple.
00:27Oh, people around me, God is home.
00:31That's the form of manipulation.
00:33It was a lot of pressure.
00:34Where is all this money going?
00:36In mind control cult, power, money and sex of the three universals.
00:41He said me and Mary had an affair.
00:44He felt that Mary was God.
00:48I said I am.
00:50I said I am.
00:53In the eyes of the Faith Temple Church, she is God.
00:56You can call me a fool for believing.
00:57You can call me a fool for talking about Mary as God or even messing with Mary like that.
01:15You can say that and I understand because I feel like a fool.
01:18I am just trying to find a place to fill my spirit.
01:22I thought it was being filled there.
01:25The moment that I came to the conclusion that we had really gone to the dark side is when Cameron told me that he had intercourse with Mary on a Saturday and not only did she get up there and preach to us on a Sunday, she put him up there too.
01:44And all that was going on and I had no idea.
01:48Like I didn't know that she was like that as much as I know about her.
01:51I didn't know that she would lay on her back with a member of our church.
01:57I just know that if my grandmother was here, none of this would be happening.
02:04That goes on down in the heart.
02:09So show me where you laid him.
02:12So I'm ready to call him out.
02:16Wow.
02:17My favorite picture right there.
02:20Just an amazing woman.
02:24Rumor has it that this is me in this picture at a young age.
02:31Being born into a church where my grandmother was the pastor and the leader was very strict.
02:42It was just all about no sin.
02:46Hmm.
02:50I refer to Robert as my Gramps.
02:55It's because he was married to my grandmother for as long as I can remember.
02:59My dad left when I was five and Gramps, he was just the father figure that Mary and I never really had.
03:07We had to revisit what we were to each other once he married my sister.
03:11That's a different kind of person.
03:13And the reality set in that I lost him.
03:16It just upset me more than anything.
03:19I didn't.
03:20Yeah.
03:21So.
03:22When the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City was announced, Mary being married to her step-grandfather was the only thing that people could talk about.
03:36I am still not over the fact that she married basically her grandpa.
03:39I don't care if he's her grandfather by blood or marriage.
03:42The point is, this is a man that used to sleep with her grandmother.
03:47But in my reporting, I discovered there was much more to the story.
03:54Robert was married to Mary's grandmother, Mama.
03:57Mama was the founder and pastor of Faith Temple Church.
04:01When Mama married Robert, he was about 20 years younger than her.
04:06Robert and Mama never had any children of their own.
04:09Mama had Mary's mother, Rosalyn, from a previous marriage, making Mary Robert's step-granddaughter.
04:16After Mama died, Robert married Mary.
04:20Robert was 20 years older than Mary.
04:23Together, they took over Mama's church, Faith Temple.
04:28If my grandmother saw me today, she would be my number one cheerleader.
04:32She would say, Mary, keep up the good work.
04:35I know that's what she'd say.
04:38I don't think that the members of Faith Temple would agree with Mary thinking Mama would be proud of her knowing the state of the church today.
04:48This is Mama.
04:51She's my grandmother.
04:54Faith Temple was Mama's church.
04:56God called us.
04:58Yes.
04:59That's why y'all here.
05:00Yes.
05:01You have an ear to hear.
05:02Yes.
05:03The Faith Temple provided a good foundation, security, safety.
05:08We were very close back then.
05:10It was like everybody in the church was family.
05:14Amen.
05:15God bless y'all.
05:17Mama taught us love.
05:19She taught us support.
05:21And I want her story out there because Robert and Mary tainted Mama.
05:27I want the people to know the truth.
05:32I absolutely believe that Mary and Robert are running a cult.
05:36Mary is responsible for destroying the church and the legacy that was attached to it.
05:45Former Faith Temple members had said that Mary and Robert ruined everything that Mama built.
05:51And so in order to understand where Faith Temple is today, we need to go back and understand Mama's history.
05:58My name is Dorothy Shannon.
06:08I'm 95 years old.
06:10I was a member of the temple church for 76 years.
06:15And Mama was the beginning of it.
06:17I was Mama's best friend.
06:20We worked together as missionaries in Indianapolis from 57 till 60.
06:27And the Lord began speaking, go to my city, Salt Lake City.
06:32Cosby was a part-time preacher in Indianapolis.
06:36She knew nothing of Utah, only that God had souls for her to save in the West.
06:42She was an Indiana-born minister who set out on foot to Salt Lake City in 1961.
06:48She and her four children, she told them, she said, well, we're going to walk.
06:53She and her four children traveled by bus, hitchhiked, and walked to Salt Lake City.
07:08Pentecostal preacher brings a new voice to historically Mormon Salt Lake City.
07:13You're talking about a young black woman coming to a predominantly white state.
07:19One of the women in Indianapolis told her, why are you going to Salt Lake City?
07:23She said, there's nothing out there but white folks and salt.
07:26They didn't know anything about Pentecostalism.
07:29At first, I didn't know about Salt Lake.
07:32See, I didn't know anything about the West.
07:34I never had been anyplace.
07:36I just felt like I was a stranger and a foreign man.
07:39And then there was white saints that came.
07:42There was no color barriers there.
07:45Mom accepted all people.
07:47If you were a soul and you loved God, Mama loved you.
07:52Mama began preaching from her living room, which was known as the Saint's House.
07:58And these sermons were so loud sometimes that people just passing by would peek their head inside
08:03and become part of this grassroots movement.
08:07This is how she grew her church from nothing into a bigger congregation.
08:13Outside of preaching, Mama was working housekeeping jobs and saving money in order to open up her first church.
08:20In 1968, Cosby built her first Salt Lake church on Indiana Street.
08:26Five times a week, these cinder block walls came alive with the rocking sounds of Mama.
08:32Don't you believe a church should be a quiet, sacred kind of place?
08:39Usually they think you're supposed to be real quiet, but we're noisy.
08:44We believe in making a joyful noise into the law.
08:47And that's what he's needed.
08:49Pentecostal is the receiving of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
08:55They called us the Holy Rollers.
08:58That's where that term came from.
09:00The Holy Ghost is simply the Spirit of God.
09:05So it was prophesied that God would pour out His Spirit upon all flesh.
09:10And when you receive the Holy Ghost, you allow God's Spirit to go in you.
09:15Hands may be going up.
09:17We've seen people shake.
09:19We've seen people cry.
09:21If something would end, I couldn't live it if I couldn't do it.
09:26It's not religion. It's salvation.
09:29People are praising God. We're thanking God.
09:32We're making that joyful noise unto the Lord.
09:35Like James Brown, Elvis, Tina Turner.
09:39They all got their background from the Pentecostal church.
09:49When Mama started preaching, she gradually took you to a place where it was high octane.
09:55Like you was being in contact with the divine.
09:57And she said she needed a church home.
10:00She wants to go out in Jesus' name.
10:03She would show up to church and give everything.
10:08God said, what did you love?
10:11Lord, I couldn't believe in you.
10:16Mama was always doing things that would sustain Faith Temple.
10:22Mama wanted us to be established in a way where we didn't have to go outside to get money.
10:27So my grandmother started opening up these small businesses that we had.
10:33When Mama arrived in Salt Lake City in the 1960s, only 1% of the population was Black.
10:38It was a massively underserved community.
10:41So when Mama opened up a variety of businesses, specifically geared towards the Black residents,
10:47people flocked to her businesses because there wasn't anything for them at that time.
10:52Everything that Mama did was for the church.
10:56Although Mama established Faith Temple in Salt Lake City, she still remained connected to Indianapolis.
11:09She went back there for teachings that were known as tent meetings.
11:15Back in the 70s, going back to Indianapolis for the tent meetings, that became, like, synonymous with Faith Temple.
11:26The church was just growing, like, ridiculous.
11:29We had a tent meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana, on the south side.
11:34At least 40 to 50 converts that came back with us to Utah at that meeting.
11:40And Robert was one of them.
11:43When Robert Cosby came to Faith Temple, the arena changed.
11:50He's a monster.
11:52Robert came to Salt Lake, I think around 72 or 73.
12:13Mama, she moved him into the guest room.
12:17Mama's approach was that she was a mother.
12:21But he wasn't seeing it like that.
12:25Everybody else kind of saw what Mama did not see.
12:28They were like, that boy got it bad.
12:32Mama just wasn't having it.
12:34She was kind of hung up on the age difference.
12:36The age difference is about 20 years.
12:39It wasn't an issue for the members in the church.
12:42It was made clear to Mama that the whole purpose of them getting together was because
12:48he was to finish the ministry that she had started and created.
12:53In 1975, Mama married Robert Cosby.
12:57He said, I was 22 years old when I married Mary's grandmother.
13:01Whose granddaddy was I then?
13:03And just so you know, when Robert Sr. and Mary's grandmother got married,
13:07Mary was three years old.
13:09After they got married, he was made the bishop.
13:13If he didn't love her, he fooled me.
13:16And I was right there with her.
13:18He appeared he really loved Mama.
13:20But something happens afterwards.
13:23My mom's relationship with Robert, he was this guy that he would do anything for.
13:32But he has so many different sides to him.
13:36You may see a guy who seems very pious and whatever else,
13:40but you have to understand that at any given moment, he can become anything.
13:46I'll give you an example.
13:48When Mary said...
13:49I would say, arrange marriage.
13:52Uh-huh.
13:53And if you notice, he breathes in and...
13:56Uh-huh.
13:57After that, he says...
13:59She said, if anything ever happens to me, Bobby,
14:02I want you to marry one of my girls because they were without me.
14:06And he goes into that mode.
14:08If anything happened to me, you'd be more than without it.
14:11And it's like, okay.
14:13He was angry.
14:14Robert Cosby was like Jekyll and Hyde.
14:19What's up, man?
14:24This is Demetrius, my brother here.
14:28And this is me.
14:31And of course, this is my mom.
14:34At three weeks old, I was adopted by her.
14:37Robert Cosby adopted Demetrius and I as well.
14:41Demetrius is my natural brother.
14:43We thought that he was always our father ever since we were little kids.
14:48I hated him.
14:50I couldn't stand him.
14:52If you look real close, you can see my brother's hand on my shoulder pulling me back to protect us.
15:00We used to have some meetings called the Brotherhood.
15:05Robert and some other elders would have meetings with all the young boys in the church every Saturday.
15:15He was trying to teach us to be men.
15:17He was trying to teach us to be men.
15:18He would go out and make us do push-ups and make us run around the church and keep us up all day, literally all day.
15:31And it started becoming abusive.
15:40He would make us hold books up out like this.
15:43And then he would have us run in place.
15:46You know, because he was in the military and some other elders were in the military, so they were putting that in us as kids.
15:58For example, taking a pin and putting it under your knees so you wouldn't.
16:19Anyway, it's a memory.
16:30Yeah, okay, you got me on that one.
16:32So, your knees wouldn't hit this pan or it'd stick you, obviously.
16:39Uh, I remember a kid, and he couldn't do a push-up or a sit-up.
16:48And I remember one of the guys, one of the elders, kicked him.
16:52He kicked the kid.
17:02It was all in the premise of God.
17:04Holiness in hell.
17:06And Mama didn't know because he had nothing to do with that.
17:11We felt that if she found out that he was doing these things to us, that it would end up ultimately hurting her.
17:17So, we felt we were taking one, as they say, kind of taking one for the team.
17:21That was until Demetrius spilled the beans on him.
17:25Demetrius said, okay, Mom, I don't want to go to the meeting because they're beating on us.
17:29He said, we have to do dying cockroaches while they hold needles under our legs, punching us.
17:34He just told everything.
17:37And the look on her face, I can't even describe it.
17:43It was, it was hurt.
17:46There was anger.
17:48It was almost like it just took her gut out.
17:51She said, Bobby, is that true, what they're telling me?
17:54No, I'm just trying.
17:55Potatoes, they exaggerating.
17:57They exaggerating.
17:58And she said, those meetings are done.
18:01And then she just sent us to her.
18:03She said, y'all go downstairs.
18:06And I don't know what the conversation was after that.
18:08Mind control cult leaders want total control over their followers.
18:25In mind control cults, especially when it comes to children, it's horrendous that corporal punishment is often used to hit children with a belt, with a paddle, striking them, which we now know creates trauma.
18:45But it's this cultivation that you better follow the rules or else there'll be violence.
18:54There is a line in the Bible, spare the rod, spoil the child.
18:59So that verse is taken out of context to mean do it literally.
19:05But it's a very important point because it's creating dependence and obedience.
19:12The more I go down the Mary Cosby rabbit hole, the crazier the story gets.
19:16Mary is estranged from her mother.
19:29When I was younger, I had five siblings and we never had enough.
19:34I mean, I was there.
19:35I grew up poor.
19:36And so I felt like, you know.
19:37Why was I poor?
19:38I didn't say that.
19:39Mary says a lot of things.
19:41And it's just contradictory to the way that we were raised and the way that we came up.
19:47I mean, we were on the welfare and we didn't have anything.
19:50And it just, the struggle was always there.
19:53Don't get on TV talking about you had money because you know that that's not the case.
19:58In 1972, Mama's daughter, Rosalyn, gave birth to Mary.
20:04Mary had a difficult relationship with her mom, though both remained part of the church.
20:10When she was around 19, 20 years old, her and her mom had a falling out.
20:15Mama played a central role in raising Mary.
20:19Why are you called Mama?
20:21Really, God called me Mama.
20:23That was the starting of it.
20:25And I'm an overseer of a group of people.
20:29And they're more like my children.
20:31One thing that me and Mary have in common is my grandmother was more of a mother figure to us.
20:39Our mother is Rosalyn Cazares.
20:43We don't have a relationship with her.
20:45I just don't remember her being around a lot.
20:49She was a young mom and my father had left.
20:53When my mom felt like she couldn't control the situation, my grandmother would move in and really help.
21:01Well, there's myself, Mary.
21:11Yeah, this was a group that we used to sing in, Cosby and Company.
21:16Mary was annoying.
21:18I just have to be honest.
21:20Mary was a troublemaker.
21:23And she needed a lot of attention.
21:28She was wild.
21:30She would run away from home a lot.
21:33So we get the call from Mama.
21:36Look for Mary.
21:37She's gone again.
21:39Troublemaker, man.
21:43You seem to like dudes with reputation and a little bit of money.
21:48Mary's always been a materialistic female.
21:51That was her type of guy back then.
21:54Unfortunately, I had a lot of young female friends that I get phone calls.
22:00We're looking for your cousin.
22:03What's going on now?
22:07I can recall one instance where Mary had caused some trouble between some of the other students.
22:13And she began to follow me home.
22:16And she runs up behind me and she says, I need to walk with you.
22:19I need to walk with you.
22:20I think these girls want to jump me.
22:22Mary kept nonsense going on.
22:24There's a difference when you enroll in school versus attending.
22:28Attending class was not on her agenda.
22:30It seems like there was always some kind of manipulation or scandal on Mary's behalf.
22:36You know, there's some people everywhere they go, they start a fire, right?
22:41I feel like she's one of those people.
22:44She just was all about herself and all about the men around her that could do something for her.
22:50She tended to lean on me.
22:54When we became adults, Mary came to live with me.
22:59I got up to go to work one day and my car was gone.
23:03It's one thing to take somebody's car for a night, but then she took it for two weeks and I had to go find her.
23:10She was doing stuff that was bringing a reproach on the church.
23:16My grandmother knew and she couldn't continue to let Mary get away with that, which is why she got disfellowshipped.
23:28Most churches have some way to excommunicate people if they, you know, do things that they're not supposed to be doing.
23:34We call it disfellowshipped and it just means that you can come and listen and watch, but you're not allowed to participate in the service until you find your way back to God.
23:49It was 1997.
23:57I remember Robert calling me, crying.
24:05And I was like, what, what, what?
24:08He said, Danny, she left me.
24:10And he didn't know what to do.
24:12I remember him saying he was distraught.
24:17I just kept saying, it'll be all right, it'll be all right.
24:20Yeah, it was probably the most devastating thing I've ever experienced in my life.
24:30Mary had a real hard time even just being at my grandmother's going away.
24:37Just sitting there knowing that she was disfellowshipped in the state that she was in.
24:42It was really hard for her.
24:43I remember personally her just being really down.
24:46Mama was everything to us.
24:48She was the glue.
24:50She was definitely the glue.
25:01When Mama passed away, it was like the blanket got lifted and then all the ugly surfaced.
25:08All the monsters came out.
25:10And when they came out, there was no one there to check any of it.
25:15The expectation as far as a succession plan was Bishop Robert Cosby would take over and continue teaching us because he was her husband.
25:28You want to be safe?
25:30No!
25:31Trust who?
25:32Trust me!
25:33Yes!
25:34Yes!
25:35Yes!
25:36I know you trust God!
25:37But you trust God!
25:38Trust me!
25:39Yes!
25:40Yes!
25:41Yes!
25:42Yes!
25:43It seemed like he was doing that maybe the first few months.
25:49And then all the problems started after that.
25:52The reality was he never got to see himself as an equal until my grandmother left and then he didn't know what to do.
26:01That's where Mary got into the picture.
26:04I thought that the story was that your grandmother, before she died, said she wanted your current husband, your then grandfather, to marry you to replace her.
26:16So basically Robert Sr. was 20 years younger than my grandmother.
26:20Okay.
26:21My grandmother felt like she robbed his youth.
26:23And so she says, if something ever happens, I want you to marry one of my girls because I know they'll be loyal to you and treat you good like you treated me.
26:31Mary Cosby was kicked out of the church.
26:34The mama, the grandmother, wanted her out of the church.
26:38Like, get your life together.
26:40This doesn't make sense.
26:41Nothing makes sense.
26:43Rigor mortis didn't even kick in before Mary started walking down the aisle with her grandfather.
26:48But why would Mary want to marry her step-grandfather?
26:51And why would he, aside from maybe being creepy, want to marry his step-granddaughter?
26:58Hmm.
27:01The day that I went to my grandmother's services, I picked Mary up.
27:09And Mary was disfellowshipped.
27:11I just remember me and her had a conversation about it.
27:15And I think Gramps went on this mission to try to revive her spiritually.
27:22Next thing you know, she's in his house and they're doing God knows what.
27:26Robert, he was devastated. He had just lost the love of his life.
27:31And then you've got this young girl who is her granddaughter who is consoling him.
27:36I mean, he told us they went to dinner every night and she'd make him talk about mama.
27:42And it helped heal him.
27:44I remember my Gramps bought Mary a BMW.
27:50Random. Okay. You know, there's like 25 grandchildren.
27:53I'm right here. I'll, you know, wait for mine.
27:55But anyway, she was showing him a new way of living in Christianity.
28:01You know, the things that we just weren't doing, you know, like the drinking and stuff.
28:05It's also alleged that the congregation was starting to talk and take notice that Mary was spending so much time with Bishop Cosby.
28:12You are a young woman and you're not some naive little girl.
28:21How Robert all of a sudden decided that he's supposed to marry Mary. I don't know where that came from.
28:28When my grandmother left, she left me her empire. Homes, churches, daycares, a mortgage company, restaurants, including her husband.
28:41Some of the things that she's saying about it being an inheritance, which is one of the biggest lies that she told.
28:51She every time she opens her mouth, she's telling the story, but more importantly, for him to allow her to get on TV and say mama wanted her to have this and that and the other.
29:03He knows better.
29:05It made people uncomfortable.
29:07And then he started using God.
29:09He started bringing God into it and asking different members, is God talking to you about him marrying Mary?
29:16I was like, what?
29:18My gramps called me up and asked me if the Lord is telling me anything about him and marrying him.
29:27He was saying that God was telling him to marry my sister.
29:32It was like, okay, this is weird.
29:35The only thing that I said to him, I said, do I still get to call you gramps?
29:38It was almost like, is this guy crazy now?
29:42He goes, there's no relation. We're not related.
29:44I said, I know we're not related. That's common sense.
29:47But that's your granddaughter.
29:49And he said, don't worry. God will make it plain to you.
29:54The biggest thing that I would say, in my mind, horrifies me, is that Mary was married at the time.
30:02Did you know that Mary Cosby was allegedly married before she married Robert?
30:08Why would Mama want Mary to marry Bob Sr. if divorce isn't allowed in their church?
30:14The pieces aren't fitting.
30:15If anybody sold they sold for money, this is it right here.
30:19Suzanne from Detroit, Michigan said, Mary, there are rumors online that say you were allegedly married before marrying your step-grandfather.
30:32Is there any truth to this?
30:33Yeah.
30:34Did you leave your husband to marry your step-granddaddy?
30:36No, I did not leave my husband. He, no.
30:39In the reunion show, when Mary's asked about her first marriage, she gets flustered when pressed about the timeline of when that marriage ended and when she started things up with Robert.
30:49Did you divorce him to marry your step-grandfather?
30:53We got divorced because he, we just got divorced for irreconcilable differences. Just put it that way, Andy. It had nothing to do with Robert Sr. Nothing.
31:04Mary isn't being entirely truthful about the timeline of her divorce in her marriage to Robert.
31:11I found that she got a divorce from her first husband September 8th of 1998.
31:18A new marriage certificate was issued to Mary and Robert September 27th of 1998.
31:25So, 19 days later, after she's granted her divorce, she marries Robert.
31:30The timeline shows there was some crossover happening.
31:34Mary's not telling the full story about what happened.
31:37Dana is Mary's first husband. He loved the mess out of Mary. She wasn't ready to get married and she's always been one that is after money, right? And he certainly didn't have any money.
31:58She went from struggling with Dana to overnight going to fancy restaurants with Robert.
32:05Mary's kink is money. It's not even really power. He wanted Mary. All he had to do was show her some cash.
32:13You show Mary some cash and you're king.
32:17I just think that her motive was lifestyle related.
32:26Gramps and Mary were trying to do something, so they had this whole meeting on Dana.
32:32They really set up the narrative like the reason why Mary went through that whole disfellowship thing and all that was really because of him.
32:42Because he doesn't want her close to God and he's jealous of her anointing.
32:48He was just basically ridiculed in front of the entire church and being accused that he hates Mary and being told to say it.
32:58It was two or three hours of just beating him down.
33:02Dana's been a member of this church his whole life. He was chastised. He was rebuked, humiliated.
33:09All I know is with Mama, that meeting wouldn't have took place.
33:14Mama loved Dana. She would have never done that.
33:19I think Robert and Mary did it to Dana because they had decided they were going to get married.
33:25They had to get rid of him.
33:27We had a meeting on a Friday, Saturday morning.
33:32They were at Dana's house with divorce papers for him to sign.
33:44I was against Gramps and Mary getting married.
33:47I spent a lot of time with this internal torment thinking I was going to hell.
33:52There was this element of if you go against Mary and Robert, you are going against God and therefore your salvation is at risk.
34:04They put this fear on you. God's going to replace you. God don't want everybody.
34:08You know, you're hearing stuff like that.
34:10She made God like the boogeyman. You know, he's going to get you.
34:13If you have an opinion about something, if you don't agree with something,
34:19then you are the outcast and you are of the devil and you are stopping God's progression.
34:28They did all of that so Gramps and Mary could get together. Very cult-like.
34:35Mind control cults, if they're religious, they typically like to use God or the divine as a weapon or a tool of complete control and domination.
34:47There are those religious figures who emphasize love God with all your heart, mind and strength.
34:55God bless y'all. I love y'all. Y'all know I do, don't you?
34:59It's a love doctrine. But these mind control cults are focusing on the fear and domination notion of God.
35:09That unless you do what you're supposed to do, you're going to get wiped out, Allah, Noah and the Flood.
35:16The use of God as the omnipotent power that's going to harm people is just a reflection of phobia indoctrination.
35:26So they emphasize fear and control.
35:30Rumors begin swirling at Faith Temple that Robert and Mary are planning to get married.
35:35Robert's telling everyone this is God's plan, that God wants him to marry Mary.
35:44Meanwhile, Mary's mother, Rosalyn, is adamantly against this.
35:48And it will come to a head at what's known as the walkout service.
35:53It was out of control. It's Wild West.
35:57There was a walkout service where Rozzy Cazares, Mary's mother, came in and got up in the pulpit.
36:19They had been trying to convince my mom that Mary and my gramps were supposed to get married.
36:35And my mom wasn't having it.
36:38None of you didn't call and ask my side of the story.
36:41You just went against me because you got something in your heart anyway.
36:47She's supposed to bring in the choir so they can sing, but they came in like, because of war zone.
36:52And as she stood there, she pounded and stomped and held her mic.
36:57And this church is coming down.
36:59United, we stand, we've got to be called Faith Temple going down.
37:04She had a group with her and, I mean, there was people that I had loved.
37:08And they looked at us as if we were just pure enemies.
37:13Members that were with her were arguing with members that were with him.
37:16And this is going on in a service.
37:18God has got no more for all these guys.
37:21And some of you are sinners right now.
37:23Don't you apologize with me.
37:25They were name calling and hints of violence.
37:28You know, I remember people getting hit with umbrellas.
37:31So I called the police and I tell them there's a riot and they stormed down the aisle.
37:36They turned just mean.
37:51I mean, there was people pushing people out of seats, you know, moving people and shoving
37:56and like getting in people's faces.
37:57And it was horrifying.
37:58It shows like the dramatic effect that Robert making that decision to marry Mary had on the church.
38:15It's not anything that my grandmother would have approved of.
38:21You know, I know he's not blood, but it is incest because he's the only grandfather that we really knew.
38:27Just straight Sodom and Gomorrah.
38:32So now it's no longer Mama's church, what everyone knew and loved as Faith Temple.
38:38Like Faith Temple had completely changed.
38:40It has new leadership and two new branches that don't with each other at all.
38:44This is the craziest story on Housewives.
38:49It has to be.
38:54My grandson, Mary, got married in a private ceremony.
39:01I just decided if I'm going to be here, I'm going to wait and see what happens.
39:07You know, what are they going to do?
39:09So I waited to see.
39:12Shortly after the announcement of marriage, it's Mary is now the choir director.
39:18You're rolling Mary into positions of power and, you know, you're telling Mary that she's over these elders
39:25who have been in this church for years because she's my wife.
39:29He said this one is going to come back in the form of Mama and going to come again.
39:36And that's when the trouble started.
39:39When Robert and Mary take over Faith Temple, things turned up a notch.
39:51They started using their position in the church to chastise members.
39:55Robert would call and say, you need to come up the house.
40:00There was very few people that you trusted.
40:04This is torture, but this is what it's going to take for me to get into heaven.
40:09He came and he shoved me.
40:11You better stay in line, otherwise it could happen to you next.
40:14She said, I just wish I could go to sleep and not wake up.
40:19Till she didn't.
40:21It's unbelievable, the pain.
40:23That's when Faith Temple starts looking like the cult.
40:28And Mary Cosby disappears.
40:32Mary Cosby did not attend the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 2 reunion.
40:37The controversial Housewives skipped the annual end of season showdown.
40:41It's about manipulation.
40:42It's about control.
40:43It's about segregation.
40:45Run for your life.
40:46Get out.
40:47You don't have to go to another church.
40:49Just get out of there.
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